Solving a Nice Homemade Exponential Equation

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@paulschumacher1263
@paulschumacher1263 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the first time you have started with the Second Method? I haven't watched all your videos, but many of them, and I have never seen you do that before. And if you present it first, is it really the second?
@77Chester77
@77Chester77 2 жыл бұрын
No, it was not the first time. Usually the first is more brute-force and the second one uses a trick
@notlin1976
@notlin1976 2 жыл бұрын
Today I prefer the 2nd method... lol Seriously, both are very interesting. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@DownDance
@DownDance 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these math exercises for fun so much!
@kanankazimzada2500
@kanankazimzada2500 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect solution. You are the best in this channel
@JimLambier
@JimLambier 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the pace of your videos. In particular, you don't dwell on every tiny arithmetic operation.
@bbt584
@bbt584 2 жыл бұрын
First, I collected a and b on one side, then after simplifications, I found 6^b=3^a. Using logarithm, a/b=logarithm 3^a/b=6 is output instead of 3^a/b=6
@nikolakosanovic9931
@nikolakosanovic9931 2 жыл бұрын
First means that it is done before every other, second means that it is done after first So in witch ever order you wrote it it will be first then second then third and so on
@georget8008
@georget8008 2 жыл бұрын
I followed a different path, by using the prime number theorem by I ended up in a dead end. I did the following: I facrorized the two sides of the initial equation into product of powers of 2 and 3 as you have done. the 2 and 3 are primes, so according to the PNT their exponents are unique. thus, I equate the exponents of the 2s and the exponents of the 3s. I end up with a simple, linear system of 2×2 equations. However, if tou solve this system you end up with a=b=0. But b cannot be zero, because in such case a/b couldn't be defined. where is the mistake? can anybody help?
@musicsubicandcebu1774
@musicsubicandcebu1774 2 жыл бұрын
LHS base is 12 and RHS is 18 . . . so their powers cannot be equated.
@georget8008
@georget8008 2 жыл бұрын
​​@@musicsubicandcebu1774 the pnt says that each integer can be factored in a unique set of prime factors raised to a power. if you take the equation at 1:42 and Instead of cross dividing, you set the exponent of 2 on the left side, equal to the exponent of 2 on the right and then do the same with the exponents of 3, then you get the 2×2 system I am talking about.
@musicsubicandcebu1774
@musicsubicandcebu1774 2 жыл бұрын
@@georget8008 I think you mean the 'fundamental theorem of arithmetic" not 'prime number theorem' . . . fta means that 72, as an example, can be written as 2³3² . Here, the powers of 2 are different and cannot be equated. I hope I'm understanding you correctly.
@0ZkYtEKE
@0ZkYtEKE 2 жыл бұрын
Neither 12^(a+b) nor 18^(2a-b) are integers, so the prime factorization theorem does not apply. I made the same mistake at first.
@georget8008
@georget8008 2 жыл бұрын
I found out what was my mistake. By using the prime number theorem, I made the implicit assumption that the two sides of the initial equation are integers. So, I have restricted the values of a and b to numbers that make them integers.
@mathboy8188
@mathboy8188 Жыл бұрын
Nice problem, but there's one small detail missing. 12^( a + b ) = 18^( 2a - b ) implies 6^b = 3^a is true enough, but from there you can't say that 3^(a/b) = 6, because it's possible that b = 0. That's the case when a = b = 0, which does satisfy the original statement 12^( a + b ) = 18^( 2a - b ). So you need to include the requirement that b not equal to 0 to make this problem 100% valid.
@lukamedin6986
@lukamedin6986 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not clear which log property does equal log in the final step of the first method 6?
@Ulissescars
@Ulissescars 2 жыл бұрын
You can simplify because 3 is to the power of a log of base 3 and it becomes only the 6
@scottleung9587
@scottleung9587 2 жыл бұрын
Nice solution, although I thought in the beginning you said it wouldn't be so nice!
@qwang3118
@qwang3118 2 жыл бұрын
Since a/b appears in the question, the implicit assumption is b 0. Collect a and b to different sides, yield 3^(3a) = 6^(3b). Taking 1/(3b) power, 3^(a/b) = 6. Too trivial, no interesting technical insight. ...
@prasantbhattarai9337
@prasantbhattarai9337 2 жыл бұрын
Bro‚ What's mean by the home made eqtn?
@tambuwalmathsclass
@tambuwalmathsclass 2 жыл бұрын
The equation is created by him.
@SyberMath
@SyberMath 2 жыл бұрын
That means if someone steals it, I”ll know! 😂
@tambuwalmathsclass
@tambuwalmathsclass 2 жыл бұрын
@@SyberMath 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@maxpetrochenko5025
@maxpetrochenko5025 2 жыл бұрын
NFT equation
@timewalkwalker
@timewalkwalker 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing channel I found question like these great
@adalchami
@adalchami 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! thanks
@praveensomashekar82
@praveensomashekar82 2 жыл бұрын
Can a and b both be 0?
@hhhh82user
@hhhh82user 2 жыл бұрын
No. The first step would be true, but 3^(0/0) is undefined because (0/0) is undefined.
@sybermaths
@sybermaths 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best my teacher
@MrLidless
@MrLidless 2 жыл бұрын
Your aversion to natural logs is disturbing, though in this case you can use log or ln. Slightly smoother 2nd method: (a + b)ln12 = (2a - b)ln18 (a + b)(2ln2 + ln3) = (2a - b)(2ln3 + ln2) 3aln3 = 3b(ln3 + ln2) (a / b)ln3 = ln3 + ln2 = ln6 3^(a / b) = 6
@oniondesu9633
@oniondesu9633 2 жыл бұрын
in number theory it is very common to write log even when referring to the natural log
@SyberMath
@SyberMath 2 жыл бұрын
No aversion. Same thing
@mateusandradedeoliveira4034
@mateusandradedeoliveira4034 2 жыл бұрын
bro, your videos are so fucking nice. thansk for make them
@RayyRayy2013
@RayyRayy2013 2 жыл бұрын
6^3b=3^3a
@tetsuyaikeda4319
@tetsuyaikeda4319 Жыл бұрын
suddenly lnX is appearing in my sight
@HoSza1
@HoSza1 2 жыл бұрын
x/y=k, (1-x)/(1-y)=? Express the latter value in terms of k!
@ghost-jp2in
@ghost-jp2in Жыл бұрын
Done without using log within 1 min😁😁😄😄
@Ki8kiki88
@Ki8kiki88 2 жыл бұрын
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@lawsofmaths429
@lawsofmaths429 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing such an informative vedio.i also made vedio with easy tricks.
@giuseppemalaguti435
@giuseppemalaguti435 2 жыл бұрын
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@mathswan1607
@mathswan1607 2 жыл бұрын
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