Putting these no solution questions as a pre-cal bonus question saying "graph the function" would be humorous when the people who don't know what to do leave it blank and then you mark it correct.
@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
😆
@janfilby70862 жыл бұрын
I would still manage to fail by drawing some bullshit curve 🤣
@mathsman52192 жыл бұрын
@@janfilby7086 😂😂
@leif10752 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen I got x equals 2 divided by i when I squared it..you didn't mention that? Why not?
@linuxnoodle86822 жыл бұрын
@@leif1075 If you multiply 2/i by i/i, you get -2i. They are equivalent.
@ecg37032 жыл бұрын
The last one has no solution at all because sin(-x) is equal to -sin x so the equation sin x+sin(-x)=2 is the same as saying sin (x)-sin(x)=2 now we can cancle the two sines and we get the equation 0=2 and it has no solution.
@notmuchgd98422 жыл бұрын
thanks, i forgot that sin(-x)=-sin(x) so it seems that sin(x)+sin(-x)=/=2
@VenkataB1232 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I got! But, in a slightly different way. So, we have sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 We know that sin(a) + sin(b) = 2sin(a+b/2)cos(a-b/2) So, applying this, we get, 2sin(x-x/2)cos(x+x/2) = 2 2sin(0)cos(x) = 2 0=2 The fact that sin(x) is an odd function struck me much later, and now I feel I wasted time doing all this😂
@VenkataB1232 жыл бұрын
@@notmuchgd9842 Don't think that's what is intended. Instead, it would still be sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 (this comes from how we defined the separate functions) but f(x) doesn't have a solution. What you're saying is like saying x^2 =/= -1 just because you can't find a solution in the Real realm. So, maybe the other function has a solution in a set of numbers we haven't discovered yet👀
@alexsoft552 жыл бұрын
Is sin(x) odd also in complex field? I always forget XD
@VenkataB1232 жыл бұрын
@@alexsoft55 Pretty sure yes. Sin and tan are odd and cos is even, even in the complex world
@ffggddss2 жыл бұрын
Here's an alternate take for the exponential equation. That parabola-like curve is a catenary; and eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2cosh(x); twice the hyperbolic cosine. But from Euler's formula, (circular) cosine can be written cos(x) = ½(e ͥˣ + e⁻ ͥˣ) = cosh(ix); likewise, because cos and cosh are even functions, cosh(x) = cos(-ix) = cos(ix) So eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2cosh(x) = 0, means that 2cos(ix) = 0 = 2cos(-ix) But we know where cosine is 0: -ix = (n+½)π ; x = (n+½)iπ And that's another way to solve this one. Fred PS. Great idea, this set of problems!
@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@punpun72462 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen 😇
@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
Hey Fred, How did you get from squareroot(x) + squareroot(-x) = 2 to e^x + e^-x = 2 ? Thanks!
@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
Fred one more question: What math topic should i study to be able to make these connections you made between e and cosine and that other one coshine? I want to be able to learn that topic and answer as you did!
@ffggddss Жыл бұрын
@@MathCuriousity Thanks for the questions. I think I can speak for bprp as well as myself, that it's encouraging to hear from those who are genuinely interested in learning. We must all strive for that! "How did you get from √x + √-x = 2 to eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2 ?" I didn't. The former was Q#1 in the video; the latter is Q#3, which is why I referred to it as "the exponential equation." "What math topic should I study ... coshine?" -- BTW, it isn't "coshine;" it's cosh, which is short for "hyperbolic cosine." I'm not sure what name that topic might go by today, but in my school days, it would be either Algebra 2, Advanced Algebra, Complex Algebra, or Analysis, the last of which nowadays goes by the name, "pre-calculus."
@Paul-222 Жыл бұрын
For #3, it’s interesting that if you substitute e^i(pi) = -1 too soon or too late, you get stuck with a tautology where x = anything.
@Paul-222 Жыл бұрын
For #4, you can analyze the series expansions and see that no integer values of n produce any totals that coincide between the two series. The first series is pi times … -1.5, 0.5, 2.5… and the second series is pi times … -0.5, 1.5, 3.5….
@farfa2937 Жыл бұрын
@@Paul-222 So I solved that using sin(x) = ((e^ix)-(e^-ix))/2i and got 0=4i, then I saw in the other comments that the oddness of sin gives you 0=2 immediately and I felt dumb for overcomplicating so much, but I'm glad to see someone else made it even more complex.
@justintroyka88552 жыл бұрын
If you, like me, are bothered by the fact that the process in part 1 doesn't yield both solutions, then read on. The reason is because a number has two square roots, and complex numbers don't have a preferred one of the two like positive real numbers do - you can't just take the "positive" square root because most complex numbers don't have a purely real, positive square root. More specifically, the problem is in the step √[-x] = i√x. Check this out: √[-(-x)] = i√[-x] = i*i*√x = -√x. So √x = -√x, which is absurd. The way to resolve this is that √[-x] may be either i√x or -i√x, depending on which square root of a number is being chosen.
@MichaelRothwell12 жыл бұрын
Please see my solution to the first equation in the comments for clarification on this point.
@mrgreenskypiano2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of my favorite videos of yours - it’s very clear and concise but still enough content to fill a 10-minute video! All of these sections are different but have the same theme so it still feels like one video - my rating is (pi^2 + 1)/10
@jumpman82822 жыл бұрын
On a scale of 1-10 that's a LOW score :(
@ajl48782 жыл бұрын
If you divide by 10, then yes
@jumpman82822 жыл бұрын
@@ajl4878 Ah, I see it now, it's _out of_ 10 lol
@ajl48782 жыл бұрын
@@jumpman8282 yea lol
@skylardeslypere99092 жыл бұрын
That's 10.86 out of 10 lol
@drpeyam2 жыл бұрын
This is unreal 😂
@londospark78132 жыл бұрын
Pretty complex too in parts!
@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
Good observation Dr Pun-yam
@xevira2 жыл бұрын
Imagine that.
@mokouf32 жыл бұрын
Should this video be called unreal tournament?
@maxwellcody64572 жыл бұрын
It looks like sin(x)+sin(-x) = 2 has no solutions since sin(x) is an odd function, even with using Euler's formula it leads to a contradiction of 0=2.
@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, Euler's formula is just how to separate the even and odd parts of the exponential as two coordinates, just specialized for the imaginary case, even if there are two other cases which are just as interesting. j² = 1: e^jφ = coshφ + jsinhφ (hyperbola) ε² = 0: e^εφ = 1 + εφ (flat line) i² = -1: e^iφ = cosφ + isinφ (circle)
@absence94432 жыл бұрын
you just apply sin(-x) = -sin(x) and that's it
@tobyayres5901 Жыл бұрын
@@angeldude101 why j as imaginary unit ):
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
@@tobyayres5901 You'll need to more precisely define "imaginary" in that question. I said "j² = +1", which is very much not the imaginary unit you're familiar with. This is a _hyperbolic_ number, not a _complex_ number.
@thedictator1454 Жыл бұрын
@@angeldude101 is that hard and when u have to study it -a highschool student
@zactron1997 Жыл бұрын
2:45 the second solution can also be found by observing that taking out a factor of i and taking out a factor of -i are both equally valid starting points ((-i)^2 = i^2 = -1). So in reality, you needed to take out a factor of +-i rather than just +i
@logicxd18362 жыл бұрын
the last one has no real nor complex solution, because if we use the complex definition of sinx, we have (e^(ix)-e^(-ix))/2i+(e^(-ix)-e^(ix))/2i = 2, then e^(ix) - e^(-ix) + e^(-ix) - e^(ix) = 4i, which LHS cancels out to 0, we have 0 = 4, no solution
@meurdesoifphilippe54052 жыл бұрын
Right, only you forgot an i in the definition of sin(x) = (e^ix - e^-ix) /2i
@logicxd18362 жыл бұрын
@@meurdesoifphilippe5405 *cough cough* no one saw that
@skylardeslypere99092 жыл бұрын
Or you could use the fact that sin(x) is odd, meaning sin(x) + sin(-x) = 0 for all complex x. No calculation required.
@danielglazar68112 жыл бұрын
@@logicxd1836 See what? ;p
@IvoCampi12 жыл бұрын
The solution of e^x + e(-x) = 0 is straightforward if thinking the two terms as two vectors in the complex plane, having the same module. For simmetry, their phases should be pi/2 and -pi/2
@Apollorion Жыл бұрын
.. and so: 1) Re(x)=Re(-x) 2) Im(x)=i*pi*(2n+1/2) 3) Im(-x)=-i*pi*(2m+1/2) Where n and m can be any integer. Since Re(z)=-Re(z) for any complex z, 1) implies Re(x)=0. Since the same goes for the imaginary part of the complex number, i.e Im(-z)=-Im(z), 2) and 3) can be combined to: 4) Im(x)=i*pi*(2n+1/2)=i*pi*(2m+1/2) So n and m needs to be equal, and the final solution is (still): x=0+i(1+4n)pi/2 with n being any integer.
@akashsriram14342 жыл бұрын
For the e based expression, I used cosine def in terms of e so we get (e^x + e^-x)/2 = 0 = cos (-ix) Take the inv cos from both sides to get pi/2 = -ix and solve for x to get -i*pi/2
@en80428 ай бұрын
1:49, that's when you lose the other solution, sqrt(-1) is i OR -i, so you should get two equations
@allozovsky8 ай бұрын
Exactly. Without that assumption the solution is not complete.
@xavierwainwright87992 жыл бұрын
sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 sin(x)-sin(x)=2 0=2. There are no solutions.
@absence94432 жыл бұрын
yop
@arostheautistic10452 жыл бұрын
**gets paper ready for last question** **realises sine is a strictly odd function** nvm
@TeamBuster Жыл бұрын
Mathematician: "Infinity is not a number, therefore this equation has no solution" Me, a physicist: "I have no such weakness"
@kevinvanhorn21937 ай бұрын
Mathematicians sometimes use infinity as a number. But they're careful to specify WHICH infinity they're using and how it plays with the finite numbers.
@lantami119918 сағат бұрын
Me, sadly putting the Riemann sphere back into my backpack
@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
e^x + e^-x = 0 "It's almost like cosh" It is exactly 2cosh(x). cos(x) = cosh(ix), and we know plenty of places where cos(x) = 0. sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 Where cosine is the even part of the exponential, sine is the odd part, so sin(-x) = -sin(x). So sin(x) + sin(-x) = sin(x) - sin(x) = (1-1)sin(x) = 0 ≠ 2 for all x. It isn't just never 2, it's never _not 0._
@luvHugeBressts2 жыл бұрын
İ can do that! İn the last question, it have no solution. Because if we try to do that, we get 0=2 and that was an issue.
@isjosh806411 ай бұрын
8:40 e^x + e^-x = 0 e^x = -e^-x x = ln(-e^-x) x = ln(-1) + ln(e^-x) x = pi*i+2n*pi + -x 2x = pi*i + 2n*pi x = n*pi + pi/2 * i
@miscccc2 жыл бұрын
Petition to make I dont like to be on the bottom, I like to be on the top merch.
@erichsu3325 Жыл бұрын
Junior Math: 1+1 Highschool Math: ax^3+bx^2+xc+d University Math: I don't know anymore. - Ho Lee Fuk
@antonyzhilin2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea where to start with the last problem, it's so odd tbh
@harshvardhanpandey80572 жыл бұрын
Pun intended?
@antonyzhilin2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@greenogorxz7153 Жыл бұрын
Я знаю причину по которой у вас не было второго ответа (2i) в первой решении, вы посчитали, что √-1 = i, но ведь на самом деле √-1 = ±i, если бы вы это учли, то как раз бы получили второй ответ
@justushinkelmann80202 жыл бұрын
Holding the poceball gives him the ultimate mathematical power
@AntonFediukov2 жыл бұрын
8:45 can you use the Lambert W function if you multiply both sides by x? That yields an extraneous solution x=0 for one of the branches but I was wondering if this method is viable here if you know what you’re doing
@1abyrinth2 жыл бұрын
I was curious about this as well
@rshawty2 жыл бұрын
ok so multiply both sides by x≠0 : xeˣ = -xe⁻ˣ now use the lambert W function : x = -x ⇒ x = 0 but we assumed that x cannot be 0. Hence it’s not a good thing to use here
@farklegriffen26242 жыл бұрын
@@rshawty it's fine to use it, just get rid of the x=0 solution because we already clarified that x≠0 for the equation we're trying to solve
@rshawty2 жыл бұрын
@@farklegriffen2624 ok but you can clearly see that’s useless
@angelmendez-rivera3512 жыл бұрын
@@rshawty It isn't useless. The Lambert W function does not allow you to conclude that xe^x = -xe^(-x) implies x = -x. It only allows you to conclude that x = W(-xe^(-x)), and you must remember this is multivalued.
@anikbera86752 жыл бұрын
The domain remain same as it is an example of the 2 graphs same ranges too. Common domain is: all real numbers. Common range is:[-1,1] But they are just image of one another if rotated across y axis by 180°. This also proves that sin(x) is a odd function.
@prajwalpai76046 ай бұрын
For the first equation we can square both sides twice to get a quadratic equation when we solve it we'll get ±2i directly
@d25138502 жыл бұрын
7:36 that's a hyperbolic cosine function: 2*cosh(x)
@YoavZilka2 жыл бұрын
He said “it’s almost like a cosh function”, but yeah, it actually IS a cosh function
@maxvangulik1988 Жыл бұрын
Last one is always 0 regardless of x. Sin is an odd function so you can move the - to the outside. The sin(x) terms then cancel, leaving the equation 0=2. Therefore, sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 has no solutions at all.
@ProO_O-n2x Жыл бұрын
There neither real nor imaginary solution because for any x, sinx+sin(-x) =sinx-sinx=0
@protoroxsinha24512 жыл бұрын
For the third one we should go for the definition e^ix
@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
It's still no sol I think. Correct me if I'm wrong
@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
@@HershO. It's the 4th that has no solution, because (hyperbolic) sine is odd no matter what you through at it. You're basically solving sin(x) - sin(x) = 2. The third one is perfectly fine and it's just saying 2cosh(x) = 2cos(ix) = 0.
@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
@@angeldude101 oh sorry I thought they were talking about the 4th one
@odio_stationofficial34204 ай бұрын
Last question literally demonstrates *destructive interference* 💀
@odio_stationofficial34204 ай бұрын
I mean the sine one question as the sine waves on +&-y axes nullify each other to give: f(x)=sin(x)+sin(-x) = f(x)=0 Anyways that was obvious the other way as well cuz sin(-x) = -sin(x)
@josephtraverso27002 жыл бұрын
You make me smile with each video. Thank you
@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear. Thank you.
@estebandavidlopezmurillo24202 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I wish I had a calc 2 professor like you. I had a hard time passing that course. But I still love math, and I enjoy watching your videos!
@TheMathManProfundities4 ай бұрын
Be careful, we can only say √(-x) = i√x when x≥0 or Im(x)
@literallyme.realmp42 жыл бұрын
9:40 I love that so much
@anikbera86752 жыл бұрын
The answer you gave ,I understood but x=-2i ,so there must be a conjugate of the complex solution , So it's equtions are: x=2i,x=-2i.
@wamma19616 күн бұрын
I learned this almost 15 years ago and I am satisfied with my answer being 2i. It was a joy to solve this!
@mcgrewgs2 жыл бұрын
For the first equation, noticing the symmetry is the more elegant way to find the second solution, but you could also just pull a -i out of sqrt(-x), since (-i)^2=-1 as well, and then solve sqrt(x)-i*sqrt(x)=2.
@mytic63612 жыл бұрын
Or, if a complex number is a root of a polynomial, then its conjugate is a root too
@GodbornNoven Жыл бұрын
Sin(-x)=-sin(x) Basically Sin(x)+Sin(-x)=Sin(x)-Sin(x) So it's equal to zero. That means we're stating that: 0=2 This is Contradiction, as such, this equation has no solutions.
@sumitrabanerjee36495 ай бұрын
The first one has another take (Simplified) :- Let the equation √x+√-x=2 be true Therefore, √x+√x*i=2 As the LHS is a complex no. While the RHS is a real no. Therefore the equation is false (Proved)
@asparkdeity87172 жыл бұрын
for all inputs, real and complex, sin(z) = -sin(-z) sin(z) + sin(-z) = 0 identically for all complex inputs. Hence the last equation has no solution at all over the reals or the complex numbers
@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
I understand why there are no reals, as x can never equal -x logic. But why is there no complex?
@asparkdeity8717 Жыл бұрын
@@MathCuriousity the reason is, sin(z) is entirely analytic over the complex plane, hence we don’t need to deal with any problems such as branches - and hence still maintains the odd property (u can even see this using a Taylor Expansion in z, which has infinite radius of convergence) for all z in the complex plane. Hence for the exactly the same reason as no real solutions x, there are no complex solutions z either
@jimschneider7992 жыл бұрын
@7:46 - considering cosh(x) = (e^x + e^(-x))/2, it's exactly like a cosh function.
@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
I suppose he wasn't completely wrong. It's not _exactly_ cosh(x), but rather 2cosh(x).
@twelfthdoc Жыл бұрын
Using the evenness of the sine function, sin(-x) is the same as -sin(x). The equation sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 becomes: sin(x) - sin(x) = 2 => 0 = 2 [->
@JayTemple2 жыл бұрын
When I taught algebra in college, I always checked my solutions to make sure they weren't extraneous. I would like to have seen that here, especially on the second equation.
@stratonikisporcia8630 Жыл бұрын
f(i) = ln(i) + ln(-i) f(i) = iπ/2 - iπ/2 f(i) = 0, therefore i is a solution of f(x) = 0 Since it's symmetrical, -i is a solution too.
@567secret Жыл бұрын
A neat trick with the last one, if we can argue there is no real component to x, it follows x = i*|x| so this just becomes 2cos(|x|) = 0 ie. |x| = (n+1)*pi/2
@dwagonyt Жыл бұрын
Here's another way for number 2, when we get to ln(-x^2) = 0, can't we do ln(-1) + ln(x^2) = 0, and ln(-1) is i*pi because of e^(i*pi) so in other words i*pi + ln(x^2) = 0; ln(x^2) = -i*pi; x^2 = e^(-i*pi) = (e^(i*pi))^(-1) = (-1)^(-1) = 1/(-1) = -1; so therefore x = +-sqrt(-1), aka +-i
@aadishaktiprasadaadishakti2927 Жыл бұрын
e^x = e^-x (e^x = e^-x)e^x e^2x = -1 squaring both sides e^4x = 1 taking ln both sides ln(e^4x)=ln(1) ln(e^4x) = 0 i.e 4x = 0 x = 0 Im a 8th standard kid so no comments :D
@hackwithtechnoboy54811 ай бұрын
0= e^(2π(i+n)) 🫡
@dock_ed5720 Жыл бұрын
For the equation e^x = -e^-x could you not just multiply both sides by x giving you xe^x = -xe^-x then take the Lambert W function: W(xe^x) = W(-xe^-x) giving you x = -x therefore x = 0 ?
@FranLegon2 жыл бұрын
sin(x)=1 x=π/2+2nπ n∈ℤ sin(-x)=1 x=3π/2+2mπ m∈ℤ π/2+2nπ=3π/2+2mπ 1/2+2n=3/2+2m 1/4+n=3/4+m n=m+1/2 Considering n,m∈ℤ, we can conclude there are no real solutions. But what about sin of complex numbers?
@Cpt_Muma2 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong, but I've always thought it wasn't correct to use SQRT and LN with negative numbers, thought there are complet solutions. So is it "correct" to write SQRT(-1)=i and ln(-e)=1+iPi for example? IDK if it's only to avoid confusion, but all math teachers keep using the definition of i as i²=-1, but never SQRT(-1)=i
@Voxel792 жыл бұрын
sin(x)+sin(-x)=sin(x)-sin(x)=0 so 0=2 simple cheat: e^x+e^-x=0 divide both sides by 2 and know that cos(x)=(e^xi+e^-xi)/2 so cos(x)i=0 i have also made math problem witch i think is hard: proof that: 2ln((2cos(ln(i))+sqrt(2cos(ln(-1))-2))/2)=pi
@nice_mf_ngl2 жыл бұрын
im in absolutely no mood for writing down the solution after banging my head on the last problem for an hour, but yeah, so i first did Euler's form, then i didn't simplify the iota terms i.e.- i didn't write e^i³x as e^-ix and proceeded then i wrote the inverses as fractions and took LCM, i substituted e^ix as a, then proceeded, and with some trivial calculations i got my answer as -ln(0)/i i know it was a pretty simple method but I JUST BROKE MATHS !
@braziliangentleman5148 Жыл бұрын
tried: sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 sin(x) - sin(x) = 2 0 = 2 💀 so I believe no solutions at all, because for any x you try, you will end up with a 0 = 2 which is already an absurd
@Pigna_Calda19 күн бұрын
For the last one, the equation will always gives 0 = 2, because the sine function is even. I also tried using complex exponential form to confirm this result and It should be correct
@tnnm20229 ай бұрын
I love how he was able to cheer me up enough to make me smile in the first 5 minutes
@andrewkarsten52682 жыл бұрын
When you consider the complex definition for sine, sin(x)=[e^(ix)-e^(-ix)]/2i, then it’s clear when you plug in sin(-x) that sin(-x)=-sin(x) ∀x∈ℂ, therefor sin(x)+sin(-x)=0≠2 ∀x∈ℂ
For those who wonder why 𝑒^𝑥 = 0 doesn't have any complex solutions: If it did have a complex solution then there would exist two real numbers 𝑎 and 𝑏 such that 𝑒^(𝑎 + 𝑏𝑖) = 0 But 𝑒^(𝑎 + 𝑏𝑖) = 𝑒^𝑎⋅𝑒^(𝑏𝑖) = 𝑒^𝑎(cos(𝑏) + 𝑖 sin(𝑏)), and there is no real value 𝑎 such that 𝑒^𝑎 = 0 and also no real value 𝑏 such that cos(𝑏) = sin(𝑏) = 0
@schizoframia48742 жыл бұрын
If it can be written as an infinite polynomial, wouldn’t we get infinitly many sol. I think i see the falicy in my logic but…
@alejrandom65922 жыл бұрын
@@schizoframia4874 that's an interesting question. Like, what happens to the roots of the taylor polynomial as the number of terms approaches infinity
@schizoframia48742 жыл бұрын
@@alejrandom6592 thanks
@MichaelRothwell12 жыл бұрын
That eˣ=0 has no solution is equivalent to the well known fact that ln 0 is not defined.
@angelmendez-rivera3512 жыл бұрын
@@schizoframia4874 Calling it an infinite polynomial is inaccurate. KZbinrs often say it is an infinite polynomial for the sake of analogy, but the problem with analogies is that they are imperfect and flawed and not an accurate description of what is happening. They are there to aid your intuition, not to give you an accurate understanding.
@EmpyreanLightASMR11 ай бұрын
4:39 How to draw a Cartesian plane properly. Also, how to describe the inside of a black hole. f(x) = ln(x) + ln(-x)
@kepler41922 жыл бұрын
7:47 you said it yourself it's literally a cosh function, exactly 2cosh(x) 😆
@chai54662 жыл бұрын
Can you do a series about problem solving involving exponential growth/decay? Thank you!!! Problem: Rhyz and Zhayn lives in an island-town with population of 2000 people. They came back from vacation to the island but they catch the highly-contagious COVID-19. A week after their return to their town, they infected 6 more people. a. How many will be affected after another week (assuming no health protocols have been practiced.)? Their public health center decides to isolate their town once 30% or more of their people are infected. b. After how many weeks will the public health center isolate the town?
@alexandreman8601 Жыл бұрын
For the first one, sqrt(x) + sqrt(-x) = 2, how can you find 2 with the solutions? Like, if you take 2i, you get: sqrt(2i) + sqrt(-2i) sqrt(2i) + i×sqrt(2i) (1+i) × sqrt(2i) And then I'm stuck, and the same with -2i. How do I get 2 from that?
@dieschachbrettfee2060 Жыл бұрын
sqrt(2i) is either 1+i or -1-i since (1+i)^2 =1^2+2i+i^2 =2i while sqrt(-2i) is either 1-i or -1+i If you define sqrt(2i)=1+i and sqrt(-2i)=1-i the equation works but I think those different square roots can cause problems in other equations.
@jamieashworth_2 жыл бұрын
On the first question how do you know which square root of the complex numbers to take, (which is the principal solution)?
@MichaelRothwell12 жыл бұрын
Please see my solution to the first equation in the comments for clarification on this point.
@rageprod2 жыл бұрын
On the surface, sin(-x) = -sinx, therefore sinx + sin(-x) = sinx - sinx = 0 therefore sinx + sin(-x) != 2 for all x in R QED But I know nothing about the complex sine function, so I'll leave to the smartheads to figure it out 🤓 If sine retains it's oddness as a complex function, I guess there's no complex solutions either. Edit: Actually, I just checked and the Taylor expansion of the sine function has only odd degree terms, so yeah, it retains it's oddness. So no solutions at all! Postscripty QED.
@sanjaykamath90210 Жыл бұрын
LHS = sqrt (x) + sqrt (-x) = sqrt (x) + sqrt (( i ^ 2) * x) = sqrt (x) + i * sqrt(x) =sqrt (x) (1+i) To find the magnitude , multiply by the complex conjugate Magnitude = =sqrt (x) (1+i) * sqrt (x) (1-i) = 2 * sqrt (x) This is true if the RHS = 2 => 2 * 1 = 2 * sqrt (x) => X = 1 IS THE ONLY ANSWER
@ano39002 жыл бұрын
In the first equation, dont you have to introduce + and - i, when pulling the i^2 from under the root?
@moeberry82262 жыл бұрын
No you do not, for example if you simplify sqrt(8)= sqrt(4)*sqrt(2)= 2sqrt(2) not -2sqrt(2). You consider the + or - signs when your solving for the value of x when taking even numbered roots. Keep in mind the + or - signs come from the absolute value of x. |x|=sqrt(x^2)
@rorydaulton68582 жыл бұрын
Yes, you do. That is why blackpenredpen did not get the solution 2i originally--he left out the + or -.
@rorydaulton68582 жыл бұрын
@@moeberry8226 That does not work for complex numbers. There is no obvious preferred principal square root, since there is no positive or negative among complex numbers. The standard for "principal square root" is to take the root with positive real part, and if both roots have zero real part then take the one with positive imaginary part.
@moeberry82262 жыл бұрын
@@rorydaulton6858 I understand that I was giving ano a very easy example with respect to the reals. So it can be shown more clearly. But 100 percent your right there is no principle square root that’s preferred when in the complex world. But in this case we are not solving or finding a principle root at the part Ano is talking about. We take sqrt(-1) to be just i and at the end as blackpenredpen showed we have symmetry along with the fact of the conjugate root theorem which states if a+bi is a zero then a-bi is also.
@ano39002 жыл бұрын
@@moeberry8226 couldn't i do the following: sqrt(-1) = sqrt((-1)(-1)(-1)) = sqrt(i*i*(-1)(-1)) = sqrt((-i)(-i)) = sqrt((-i)^2) = -i but since: sqrt(-1) = i I have to consider both +/-?
@lilisecretworld6 ай бұрын
A doubt. Why e^ipi+2npi? When without the 2npi the answer would be ipi/2?
@mrinaldbhat9921 Жыл бұрын
solution for last one: sinx + sin(-x) = 2 the angle -x lies in the 4th quadrant, and here sin is negative, hence the equation can be reformed as sinx + (-sin(x)) = 2, giving sinx-sinx=2, i.e 0=2 Hence the solution set is {ϕ}
@ejb7969 Жыл бұрын
At 1:17, what are we going to get? It sounds like "the woodshed" or "the wart's head", I can't tell what word it is. I love that he concludes the entire function is just a point.
@MikehMike017 ай бұрын
origin
@BryanHsieh-c2q2 жыл бұрын
after getting e^2x = -1 I just set x = i(theta) /2 then original function can change to e^i(theta) = -1, theta = pi + 2npi then x = i(pi + 2npi) /2
@closer_to_the_unknown2 жыл бұрын
Because of sin(-x) = -sin(x) we've got sin(x) + (-sin(x)) = 2 Or sin(x) - sin(x) = 2 So, we've got contradiction 0 = 2 Because of that we have got no solutions
@arkdotgif Жыл бұрын
doesn’t the last equation give 0 = 2 ??
@stratonikisporcia8630 Жыл бұрын
A shorter method for the third one : e^x + e^-x = 0 (e^x + e^-x) / 2 = 0 let u = -ix x = iu (e^iu + e^-iu) / 2 = 0 cos(u) = 0 u = π/2 + πn x = i(π/2 + πn)
@darrenxavierjohan86111 ай бұрын
Okay, the last question is interesting. Before solving the last question, let me tell you one of the properties of sine. sin(x) is an odd function, which means a negative input will give us negative sine of the positive input. sin(-x) = -sin(x) Now, let's try solving the question. sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 Applying the odd function property to sin(-x), we get sin(x) + (-sin(x)) = 2 = sin(x) - sin(x) = 2 But sin(x) - sin(x) cancels each other, so there is no solution.
@alikaperdue Жыл бұрын
Without watching, I see that it is c(1+i)=2, where c=√2. So the left equation is a line through 1+i from the origin. A 45 degree line in the 1st and 3rd quadrant of a graph. The line obviously goes through y=2 at x=2. So the point at which the equation equals two will occur at √2+√2i. I was so wrong. I was taking the absolute value of the left side. Ignore my ideas, the video is good.
@YoungNeil066 ай бұрын
Isnt last one sin(π/2+2πk) which always will give one and sin(-3π/2+2πk) which will also end on the positive side of the circumference as its going to the negatives and then the postives? Reasoning like that it would be 1+1 =2
@Anthony-od2iq9 ай бұрын
Wait for that e^x + e^-x question at the end can't you just leave it as e^iπ and take the ln to get 2x = iπ so x can be iπ/2 cuz i am not sure why you added 2πn, i understand basic calculus so i understand how Euler's number works but that 2πn is it really necessary to add ?
@kailashanand50862 жыл бұрын
for the third one, that is e^x + e*(-x) = 0, when we get to the step: 2x = ln(-1), why cant we write it as: 2x = ln(I^2) = 2ln(i), therefore x = ln(i)? (idk that much about logs or calculus or anything of that sort, so if I make a mistake please excuse me)
@andrewgjkgjk Жыл бұрын
Can you write in text what you are saying when you say "if you ever feel the need to graph the __________" (axis meeting point, red dot) around 1:19? I can't make out what you are saying. Thank you so much for great videos!
@angelmendez-rivera3512 жыл бұрын
For the equation exp(x) + exp(-x) = 0, this is equivalent to exp(x) = -exp(-x), which is equivalent to exp(x)^2 = -1, and thus, is equivalent to exp(x) = i or exp(x) = -i. That would have been a simpler line of reasoning. Regarding sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2, sin(-x) = -sin(x), so sin(x) + sin(-x) = sin(x) - sin(x) = 0, and 0 = 2 is false. End of story.
@rshawty2 жыл бұрын
my teachers say it’s really really bad when you write square root of a negative number or of a complex number, because in this case it’s not a function, its a multivaluated function and √x+√(-x) is a set. So for the first one wouldn’t it be better to write the question as “find x so that 2∈{√x+√(-x)} “ or something like that ?
@MichaelRothwell12 жыл бұрын
Your teacher is spot on!
@toirmusic2 жыл бұрын
i immediately noticed e^x + e^(-x) is just 2cosh(x)
@luiscrispinvargas30612 жыл бұрын
No entiendo nada lo que dice pero sí entiendo todo lo escribe , excelente canal 👌👌 , saludos desde Perú.
@arkdotgif Жыл бұрын
e^x and e^-x is also a symmetric function, why is the negative of that not also a solution?
@stratonikisporcia8630 Жыл бұрын
It is, it's implied by the n which can also be negative
@OPNisheeth_Gamerz7 ай бұрын
6:21 6:37 But ♾and -♾ are both numbers! They are also solutions
@蒋正-k6u2 жыл бұрын
lets consider the essence of sin(x)=-sin(-x), expand sin x as its taylor series, thus we can see sin(x)=-sin(-x) if (-x)^k=-(x)^k and k is odd. but i think quaterions dont obey rule since they break distributive law. so the answer might be a quaterion
@baukenieuwenhuis64702 жыл бұрын
I have the best solution for the third one: e^x + e^-x = e^-i i x + e^i i x = 0 this is already one of eulers identities but ill write it out anyway: cos(-ix) + i sin (-ix) + cos(ix) + i sin(ix) = 2 cos(ix)=0 cos(ix)=0 ix = pi/2 + n pi x=-i (pi/2+n pi)
@nG272272 жыл бұрын
Alternatively, just use cosh identities: e^(x) + e^(-x) = 2cosh(x) = 2cos(ix). But this is a nice way to derive the same thing with more fundamental identities, without needing cosh.
@baukenieuwenhuis64702 жыл бұрын
@@nG27227 I didnt know that identity but pretty interesting :)
@cosmicvoidtree2 жыл бұрын
This actually raises an interesting kind of question. For f(x)=a and g(x)=b, when does f(x)+g(x)=a+b?
@reeeeeplease11782 жыл бұрын
What do u mean
@warrior10ize2 жыл бұрын
a + b = 0 ?
@cosmicvoidtree2 жыл бұрын
@@reeeeeplease1178 So if you have two equations, ex: e^x=1, and ln(x)=1, the question is does the equation e^x+ln(x)=1+1 have the same solutions.
@reeeeeplease11782 жыл бұрын
@@cosmicvoidtree ah, at first i thought that f(x)=a and g(x)=b use the same x Makes more sense now 😀
@cosmicvoidtree2 жыл бұрын
@@reeeeeplease1178 They can, it's just not a requirement.
@yapsiauwsoengie65072 жыл бұрын
Would you please talk about this topic? As we all know for x approches infinity: (1+1/x)^x=e and (1-1/x)^x=1/e Multiply above equation both side will give us: (1-(1/x)^2)^x=1 ... as if the value of (1/x)^2=0 Can we then define that when x approches infinity (1/x)^2=0?
@ivoandricic10882 жыл бұрын
To your last question - yes
@eugen3662 Жыл бұрын
The last example has actually +- sign because of the symmetry mentioned in the first example
@supernakke4858 Жыл бұрын
Love looking all these. I'm looking these years later but they are so great videos
@krispy27632 жыл бұрын
sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 is impossible since sin(-x)=-sin(x), so we get : sin(x)-sin(x)=2 0=2 So the last equation is impossible
@floppy8568 Жыл бұрын
7:46 In fact, double the cosh function!
@esajpsasipes2822 Жыл бұрын
3:23 sqrt(x)^2 = +- x
@d4rkne9s97 Жыл бұрын
How can x0? I mean, in what kind of world or mathematical set, (set), algebraic structure in which the property of identity does not exist?
@garimamehta16042 жыл бұрын
sir what is the integration of 1/(sinx+cosx)
@wes9627 Жыл бұрын
This is because x cannot be both 1 and -1 at the same time. Square the given equation to get √(-x^2) = 2 and x^2 = -4 = 4e^(iπ + i2jπ) and x_j = 2e^(iπ/2 +ijπ), j = 0, 1. x_0 = 2[cos(π/2) + i sin(π/2)] = 2i and x_1 = 2[cos(3π/2) + i sin(3π/2)] = -2i Check: √(±2i) = √2√(±i) = √2e^(±iπ/4) = √2[cos(±π/4) + i sin(±π/4)] = √2(√2/2 ± i√2/2) = 1 ± i Thus √(-x) + √x = (1 - i) + (1 + i) = 2
@ptubevfx1331 Жыл бұрын
For the last one after writing e^x = -e^-x , multiple by x on both sides and take lambert w on both sides you get x=-x => x = 0 . But 0 isnt the answer so where does this go wrong cuz I feel like the steps seem legit
@VladVideos0 Жыл бұрын
if x is naiural,this function will always be equal to y+yi because y=√x and yi=√-x