Solving the Problem of Human Perception | Cambridge | EP 242

[@canoedoc2390]

Dr Peterson is one of the few people who can combine history, evolutionary biology, philosophy, literature, clinical psychology, religion, and spirituality in a meaningful way that preserves and honors the contributions of each discipline. Profoundly beautiful talk at the deepest level.

[@danielohrman6299]

Him and vervaeke are the only ones I can think of

[@richardwebb4374]

@@danielohrman6299 Love to see Vervaeke getting a shoutout

[@JaketheJust]

He’s like a real-life Hari Seldon

[@earlkelley1377]

Thank you for sharing, even those ideas and areas that open you up to criticism because you push us/your audience to actually perform 'critical thinking', something that academia has gotten away from. Again, many thanks!

[@luxtenebris7246]

It’s true, and it’s a testament to the fact that these disciplines and the lines between them are, for the most part, artificial creations of intellectuals - when you really delve into a pursuit of reality, they rapidly dissolve. At some level, there are no field distinctions whatsoever, just That Which Is, uncategorized.

[@Collabcreatemarketing]

“To keep bad men from dominating you need good men who are capable of being quite terrible” that was just beautifully said

[@Nerd3927]

The perception of being the good guy is what is keeping this world a dark place. Especially if they think they are mandated to be quite terrible.

[@christopherk6859]

The meek shall inherit the earth.

[@johnrobert2572]

@@Nerd3927 indeed, just ask Russia

[@annschrimsher5183]

@@christopherk6859 First, meek means humble, not weak. You can still be dominating, say to protect your family, and still be humble. Second, the earth has fallen, it is full of sin. The meek will inherit a sinful, broken world.

[@6Churches]

Funny that he ... just moments later tells everyone NOT to think about power and domination in human perception. This is the critical fault in his talk. Somehow it is right to view individual males as psychopathic, but you're never allowed to think that an institution can also behave psychopathically (which they very obviously can, Godwin's law) Women are supposed to value individual men who will stand up to individual psychopathic men, but Peterson is against a collective standing up to the psychopathic outputs of governments and institutions. That's a real jarring disconnect.

[@belensoria1664]

Honest and mature introduction. I’m so glad that Cambridge isn’t cancelling anymore and can promote solid academic exchange and discussion

[@ElobinGarvic]

I thought the introduction political and self-involved.

[@saxon8981]

@@ElobinGarvic same. typical cambridge

[@ChristineMarie29]

Amen!

[@saxon8981]

@@ChristineMarie29 shh

[@skyhawk_4526]

@@ElobinGarvic What was the political part? I seem to have missed it.

[@gaildonley8990]

This man is a master. He will go down in history as the greatest psychologist and philosopher since C. G. Jung. Our world needs to hear everything he has to tell us. Pure genius but also pure common sense.

[@seetheanimal5867]

The low IQ of his worshippers will lower his historical weight 👀

[@NightLetterLondon]

one thing most of us tend to forget is the fact that he delivers these 'thoughts' straight out of his head. not a single referring to a note or piece of paper. it is actually beyond astonishing.

[@patmoran5339]

That would be laughable if it wasn’t so tragic.

[@charleswomack2166]

He always mispronounces that guys name as "yooong"!

[@pascal8306]

⁠@@patmoran5339why, because he doesn’t use your preferred pronouns?

[@StylinDogs]

One thing I really enjoy about Jordan Peterson is his genuine expression of his ideas. So much so he gets wrapped up and emotional about his subjects. He is very inspiring.

[@EyeGodZA]

Yeah, absolutely, & well put re his emotions: it’s like he feels a kind of universal truth in his assertions to such a degree that he cannot help but be overwhelmed by the chaos of emotion before he reels it in & harnesses it, finding order in it. It’s moving to witness, & no wonder that he resonates with so many.

[@E.6-f9f]

He's acting, anyone would for a million dollars.

[@ph-vf5hx]

@@E.6-f9f he is a very successful orator

[@Replied_ByMeatr1der5]

@@E.6-f9f It seems like your perception and form of conceiving ideas doesn't form part of the canonical interpretations

[@harkyo]

@@E.6-f9f no.

[@abdikhaliq1920]

”When you have something to say, silence is a lie” Jordan Peterson

[@agnidas5816]

spoken like a true neurotic sick person with an overactive default mode network

[@joneslive586]

Damnnnnn that is a good quote!!👍👍

[@mrwronguk9291]

My fave. You can't argue with it.

[@TheWilliamHoganExperience]

I'm both an architect and a musician. This is the most profound, poetic defense of the redemptive power of art I've ever encountered. At 49:30 Peterson's voice breaks as he's describing "the point of maximum suffering" at the transept a chapel. Part of what makes him such a remarkable figure is his courageous, public embrace of deeply personal vulnerabilities like this. I have a lot of knowledge about art, architecture and music. I have worked professionally creating in multiple artistic disciplines. I have always felt art was sacred. Peterson explains why with exceptional eloquence here - despite being so profanely interrupted by a protester dressed as a lobster at 50:10. The man is a treasure.

[@steven3837]

Did you hear what she said? I didn't

[@Lyonessi]

@@steven3837 "something something feminist again" - all I could figure out

[@katking6820]

If you dare to disparage him explain what exactly you disagree with ? He really is a treasure !

[@englishbreakfast2689]

That really was irrelevant. Not as brilliant as that person might have intended it to be is all..

[@CrimsonStrider]

I wonder if she was actually dressed as a lobster or just wearing a red dress

[@KyleCBowman]

Beyond his genius, near perfect explanations of the most complex topics, the best thing about Jordan is how much he loves humanity - never stop.

[@katking6820]

So emotional he is when he talks about humanity in its infinite suffering & unbearable pain but yet we continue.

[@NightLetterLondon]

@@katking6820 yes. but i also find him particularly emotional whenever he describes a cathedral.. he's a nailed-on man of God.. though he never explicitly says it..

[@aidanallen1976]

@@NightLetterLondon an incredibly reductionist view, to shame sir! Drag that nuance right back from under the rug

[@barbbeulah7139]

So true, he is compassionate, his understandings remove fear, so love can flow, truly a man amongst, Gandhi, marten Luther king, brave men, who through their influence inspired people to be better, moved by a certain grace, I just stopped in to say I appreciated your comment, and then talked alot😂🤣

[@rotisserieprotocol3582]

Not gonna lie, in the last 10 minutes of this when JP gets a bit choked up, I was right there with him. The human experience can be some of the most intensely beautiful things we can perceive and how it relates to the world we inhabit and to ONE ANOTHER.. makes a grown man cry. Incredible talk Jordan.

[@anbee8127]

It does take 5 minutes for his voice to warm up to what we're used to.

[@BiGPiSH]

Usually Peterson cries = I cry 😢 😭

[@jamesboxall4606]

@@BiGPiSH we are designed to cry because it's a psychological response to issues that we feel deeply and move us in a way that totally understands our souls and resonates with how we feel which when looked at shows how deeply we require something meaningful of great value

[@WillisSmokestack]

Man's a genius. This sentence, juxtaposed with his hand gestures, just makes me smile: "That's the axiomatic structure of your apriori perceptions manifesting itself as self evident fact to your ignorant mind." He mimed the expansion of thought as he was speaking the words that expanded my thoughts.

[@samanthawiessing6348]

I loved that snippet, and the dancing fingers. Made me smile too.

[@WillisSmokestack]

18:00

[@MW18696]

I loved this too! Recall listening to it on the car on my way to work. I literally laughed out loud at the complexity of the sentence.

[@nicolaslalonde2807]

Ditto! Well put!

[@eluwienhalla3182]

Not only did he say that, but then draw the picture of you categorizing the bookself by the thickness of 35th page of 3th chapter so that you know that "thats obvious" is exactly proof of ones ignorance of their own perception mechanism. Damn brilliant

[@w.peters9548]

We need more people in the world like Jordan Peterson. He is such a blessing and I appreciate his podcasts.

[@finprol943]

@@Rocksteady246 Is alcohol the same as benzodiazepines?

[@finprol943]

@@Rocksteady246 believe what?

[@finprol943]

@@Rocksteady246 that is a question you should be asking yourself,i.e,if he did a thesis on alcoholism ,how is he supposed to be an expert on benzodiazepines?

[@FewNewReasonss]

@@hairydude1950 So everyone goes down the same path and experiences the same thing the same way?

[@bjerk1881]

@@Rocksteady246 this is irrelevant

[@MrLiftr]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is an artist, and with words, he paints the truth. Today, I am grateful.

[@markmurphy3462]

Indeed. Truth is a process that we must arrive at.

[@brandonginsburg3120]

@@markmurphy3462 I paint turkeys with my hands and buy my own groceries. The turkeys are not alive but merely an image.

[@TheNightKing22]

I cannot tell you how much life this man has breathed into me with every talk I've ever heard of his. It's incredible how much he's inspired me to live. I wasn't always so sure. I just want to shake his hand.

[@mariamichael1807]

JBP may have inspired you but the divine spark was always within you and that’s how strong and powerful you are, as we all are.

[@TheNightKing22]

@@mariamichael1807 that's genuinely one of the kindest comments I've read in a while directed towards the common good. Thank you friend. And so I believe in you. Keep sprinting. Don't ever stop. 🙌🏻⚡

[@brianmullins5824]

Must say the same as that

[@yukonchris]

One of the best lectures I've watched. "You see meaning and infer objects!" That is absolutely pivotal, not only to what Peterson was trying to communicate about perception, but also to the entire human story. Strip away all the cultural complications, and the baggage of 300,000 years, and imagine the view . . . I never looked at perception this way before, but it absolutely makes sense.

[@yukonchris]

@@CONEHEADDK Truth is truth.

[@nabieladrian]

Truly foundational that we, an "advanced" civilization, just starting to grasp the surface of it all.

[@waterdoctor808]

@@nabieladrian I have listened to over 150 hours of Dr Peterson - each one has show me how deep a thinker he is and has expanded my sorry brain in order to comprehend the profoundness of his lectures -

[@PlaidZoomer]

It even makes sense from a technology stance. There's a reason why Tesla has the best full self driving cars. Instead of mapping out the whole entire world which is basically impossible, it uses cameras to sense the world around it with very intelligent & safe software

[@CanWeGetDeep]

God this man is so high class. And his lectures are so profound and DEEP, EVERY TIME. He is a true gem ofour generation, and will likely become a historical philosophical (and dare I say religious) figure remembered a century from now.

[@samanthaorologio6866]

Really and truly.

[@NightLetterLondon]

agreed. i think of Simone Weil.. someone who wouldn't enter the Church (because she didn't want to leave those suffering 'outside' behind). if she had entered the Church she would be celebrated as a saint. JP is in this category. fundamentally (increasingly) a 'religious' figure. long may he be celebrated.. into the future.

[@CanWeGetDeep]

@@NightLetterLondon “because she didn’t want to leave those suffering ‘outside’ behind” wow, that hit me. Not joining the Church was the most “Christ-like” thing she could have done. The beautiful irony. We can still celebrate her as a saint though 💙

[@pabloquintanilla8035]

At the level of Nietche and people like that I would say

[@E.6-f9f]

@@NightLetterLondon In your dreams, little girl.

[@isaacwright2020]

"We see Meaning and infer objects." Such an incredible, potent distillation of his book "Maps of Meaning", blew me away.

[@Illlium]

Blew my mind too, didn't realize it was possible to sum up cognition in a sentence like that, Jordan made it out to be hard.

[@JaketheJust]

It is a brilliant way of seeing objects. The meaning of a door is to act as a point of entry/exit to a location where barriers prevent you from entering. Without the meaning of the object we couldn’t operate with the object. It’s once again we need to find meaning in life because we couldn’t operate without it.

[@Illlium]

@@JaketheJust Now that you mention it, it's funny how some objects are asking you to find meaning in them while others have meaning oozing out of them. The door is a particularly interesting example. In the Shinto tradition there are gates placed at different places of significance. I believe the message of these gates is - this isn't YOUR place, have some respect.

[@EverybodyUnite]

Me too!

[@benjaminblack91]

Jean Piaget has a thorough and comprehensive observational study of how exactly our brains stop mapping senses to object, and start mapping senses to meaning early in brain development in his book "The origin of intelligence in children" (1936). The most profound book in the world, as far as I am concerned, unfortunately it is nearly impossible to understand. Took me a year and a half to get through the first 200 pages, and the hard part is only starting....

[@Leo-mr1qz]

"Love is the desire to work for the betterment of all things." - J. Peterson Amen! 🙏

[@brbapappa]

I feel he wanted to say that at the end: Amen

[@morgankors1344]

To which might be added: "... without thought of personal gain or reward".

[@nessajemima1805]

What man meant for evil….We wouldn’t have this treasure of a man were it not for him being “canceled”. His lectures are always thought-provoking , emotive, and substantive. Every word is a nutrient filled intellectual bite. ❤️🇭🇹

[@АлексейСергиенко-ж1ы]

He's an incredible thinker of our time and a precious gift of life for all who need it. And I need it. Period.

[@tyrodgers6170]

Keep doing what you’re doing JP! The world needs you

[@johnmicheal3547]

Most if not all "good" peope hate it when the world "need" them. They do what they do not because the world or the human race "need" them. Like real heroes doesn't need nor want the title "hero". The one that do want and pursue the title are cons. Imo the one saying "need" is also close to being a con. The one trying to monopolies the power to bestow the title "hero" are also close to be cons. (Note nurses and truckers were "heroes" until they refuse the covid vaxx)

[@sunnykim9917]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@brandoncarle]

Beyond the world The infinite space needs Dr. Peterson

[@nicholastrice2674]

He's sincere. One of his better qualities, if not his very best.

[@Self-Duality]

Absolutely!

[@johngates5166]

sincerely genuine

[@barbbeulah7139]

You hit the nail on the head,

[@pattiday431]

What an incredible man. I don't pretend to understand everything he said, nor did I hear what the protester said near the end, but the fact that Dr. Peterson didn't succumb to her anger, but was so gracefully able to return to his thought without losing the beauty and the depth of spirituality, was the reason why I cannot get enough of him.

[@MrBrindleStyle]

that's the cool thing about video - we can hit replay as many times as it takes to understand the content.

[@KimMyeongJu-pr9ro]

When Professor "Jordan B Peterson" spoke about the wonders of the night sky, I felt like I was looking at it too. The professor has a very rational and determined absolute knowledge and logic, with a coolness that never loses, and a soft sensibility that sometimes incubates tears. It gives me great empathy and trust. When I was a child, I looked up at the night sky and held in my heart many bright colorful stars. My dreams and love grew up eating that kind of starlight. But today's children cannot afford to see the stars. Today's world is too harsh. And when I was young, I saw the apparitions of the Virgin Mary. There was also an angel beside Mary. They were not in the light of the earth, but in the white light of heaven. Mary placed her hand on my forehead. And she said something into my head, like telepathy. One day when the world is still, alone, staring endlessly at the night sky, I get a world that expands infinitely wide. It's as if I'm traveling somewhere in my subconscious. My imagination is limitless and I seem to be slowly melting into the universe. It makes me feel like I'm being materialized into the universe. It's probably like going back to the most primitive archetype. Eventually, the energy of the universe enters the crown of my head and the world expands further. I look at the blue Earth and the Moon from space. And I follow the planets of the solar system and their orbits. Soon after, I see myself, a little dot that lives on Earth. And again the world expands so vastly that I keep sailing through the universe towards the end point. At that end, humanity will find the divine "truth" and "love" of perception. This is perhaps the final destination of cognitive psychology.💖

[@AB-nr5je]

*nod of respect*

[@KimMyeongJu-pr9ro]

@@AB-nr5je 👍

[@KimMyeongJu-pr9ro]

@@CONEHEADDK thank you. My article was a little long.😊 I hope that even a small part of my writing will be a good source of energy for you.

[@KimMyeongJu-pr9ro]

@@CONEHEADDK Wow, you're from Denmark. It's really nice to see you. It is a truly inspiring and beautiful country. I also get a lot of help from Professor Jordan B Peterson's lectures. When people around the world share each other's experiences and opinions, it will help each other. We are all looking in the same place. Be healthy and happy.😊

[@pickititllneverheal9016]

No one has effectively given me hope and direction like Dr Peterson. I have been slowly eliminating chaos from my life, but there are obstacles that I have found no way around that are very personal and painful. I have searched for someone like him here in VA to speak with to no avail. We need more JP types that we can turn to for advice and wisdom. It hurts....It hurts.

[@charleswomack2166]

May I reccomend the 12 steps program? This is a program designed by recovering alcoholics who were interested in helping other alcoholics to recover. It is best done with someone who has done the steps before. It is precisely why I am so GRATEFUL to be a recovering Alcoholic!

[@Livefreeordi]

I am one of the fortunate ones to be attending his lecture this evening!!

[@FiremarshalM1]

Come back here to tell us about it? Congratulations 🎉

[@EthanLetters99]

I’m getting to go on the 21st! I’m so excited, I can’t wait

[@lunarnuts]

Lucky you!

[@markushill8639]

As am I! The very same. May the Lord bless you.

[@FiremarshalM1]

@@EthanLetters99 have a great time!

[@ToLWaM]

You’re one of the greatest men of our times, Jordan. You’re navigating the insanity of our world gracefully

[@stevenshoemake2291]

This is absolutely brilliant. Possibly the best lecture I have ever encountered. Thank you, Jordan!

[@pedroa4132]

I dream, or at least desire the ability to go from "Laid back Luke", to full "Goldeneye 007" like our beloved Dr. Peterson with at least half as much style as he.

[@IndependentThoughts911]

The world; So much beauty, so much potential, so little fulfillment, which brings on the aching for that something Peterson attempts to define or guide the way to. I think the North American indigenous peoples were closer to an understanding than the civilization that replaced them.

[@masterxyr]

A man with the spark of the divine in himself. Thank goodness he is also eloquent and generous enough to offer it to all of us.

[@rules4life337]

Gods, I'm so grateful that I can hear this man speak.

[@ANALOGY-YOUNITED]

Man this is an occultic talk, as they say, The libs of wisdom are closed except to the ears of understanding. Don't take it literally

[@alexielegault5821]

Despite having an ADHD diagnosis, Dr. Peterson never fails to captivate my full and undivided attention! Thank you.🙏🏻

[@janbeh3064]

haha was just thinking that for myself :)

[@MrRickkramer]

Hyper concentration happens when things are interesting, Peterson keeps busy minds busy so they don’t go wandering off..

[@nancybaumgartner6774]

That is because he is worth focusing on 😊. So many people and things are not .

[@peacefuldoves]

Oh my goodness! Yes! Totally! I try a 25 min sermon, and d r I f t ...but..... Dr. JP, I'm captivated! Bravo Sir. We love you from UK 🇬🇧 ❤

[@stone-dogmillionaire9215]

where did you hear that Dr. Peterson has ADHD? I've never heard that and he doesn't seem like he has it either

[@aldreiong7679]

This talk made me cry. Thank God you're still alive, Dr. P.

[@cos2mer2]

Dr Peterson’s words, so thoughtfully composed, are music for the mind. He is Die Meistersinger!

[@RogerWilco66]

I have never heard such a beautiful definition of art, and how deeply it is tied into our existence. Thank you, Dr. Peterson, and godspeed.

[@saemongrille]

Truly outstanding! This talk is such an incredible feat. May this man receive all the health and happiness he deserves.

[@ferrugenfish]

The product of Dr. Peterson following truth and intuition is a blessing on the world, and just in time. Looking forward to seeing him live on Wednesday in San Francisco. Thank you for doing what is right Jordan Peterson. It is seen, heard and most importantly felt.

[@micahprice2807]

Just in time for a long work day! Thank you Dr. Peterson! Hope you are well!

[@pinip_f_werty1382]

Damn straight

[@Ball7399]

I'm not taking shots at JP, I appreciate him as much as anyone but I'm rather disappointed as all he talked about here are common and well known facts (to those who studied or love philosophy in a fancy way)

[@Ball7399]

In the section "Infinity of perception", he's basically saying you can sort things by all of their common features. You can sort book by their weigh, age, colour, number of words etc. there's basically an infinite number of features you can sort books by, simple. JP makes it sound sophisticated

[@kod4062]

@@Ball7399 I mean it sounds sophisticated because it is. The fact he's manipulating the phrasing and tone of basic realities is what's impressive... plus he said there's basically Not an infinite number of interpretations (even though it seems like there should be)

[@Ball7399]

@Mike Kane Hold on, are you sure we are on the same page or maybe we have slightly different understanding of some words. The entire topic of the video is the problem of perception, what is true and what isn't true, what corresponds to reality or what doesn't correct ? Because your comment seems unclear to me. What models that were completely wrong do you refer to ? What do you mean by "We have absolutely no idea how any of it actually arises in cognition". What is 'it' ? Input from the outside world which is basically our perception or the processing of that input (thinking) ??? Please be more specific cos that's also the mistake Jordan makes constantly, he has an idea in his head but explains it vaguely

[@SebsDuran]

55:20 I didn’t meet my wife until I finally let myself be the man I was deep down. Jordan got me there, bro. What a beautiful call to rise from the dust and be men there.

[@judithsanto9302]

His passion if you go to marker 47:35 or 48:19 if you want to experience the awe in him, just listen from that point until end which is about the last 5 minutes. He’s just amazing!

[@marktaylor6671]

Brilliant!! You wre able to tie all those strands together that you laid out over the course of the lecture in the most profound and illuminating manner...... Literally had tears streaming down my face as you spoke of the divine awe inspiring glance heavenward of millions of years of struggle and survival and expansion of consciousness despite the rude and presumptious interruption of that "protester" which you gracefully deflected with precision and dignity. Immense gratitude that we have a man of your ilk and courage to challenge the perverse radical ideaologies that threaten the minds and very sould of so many vulnerable young and old!! Bravo and many thanks Dr Peterson....

[@EricaSwitzer]

I've loved Dr. Peterson's teachings for years, used many of his lectures to help myself "grow up" and utilized his debates in my lectures but this...you can truly hear his love for humanity in his carefully crafted words AND his yearning voice. Thank you Dr. Peterson for helping us come home.

[@muslimbekabduganiev7483]

"She is rejecting you because you are not all you could be..." This hits home hard... Everytime I am rejected, I loath myself for not being good enough. So it's not just me, huh. Makes me think of past rejections in a new light.

[@RobertButler1]

You could look at it in a positive light: it means you still have unrealized potential. I'm going to assume you're relatively young which you'd you could still have a great many of unknown things to accomplish. So you have that to look forward to.

[@Eliminativ]

I think Peterson is oversimplifying things here. In many instances (if not in most of the cases) the reasons for getting rejected as a potential partner certainly have nothing to do with you not being the best version of yourself. Maybe it has something to do with her hormones why she is not attracted to you at the moment. Maybe your sneaky smile or your outfit subconsciously reminds her of her evil uncle that treated her badly when she was young. Maybe you are close to being the best version of yourself but your attributes are simply not the ones this specific female is looking out for in her potential partner. She could be depressed or fed up. Maybe she has other priorities in life than having a partner. Maybe she thinks she is unworthy in your eyes or in general. Also keep in mind how often not only men but also women compromise when it comes to selecting a mate / partner / lover / husband. Look at all the couples you see on a daily bases. Do you really think women only choose those men that are close to being the best version of themselves? Very often they choose them specifically because they are mediocre just like themselves. Or because they feel lonely. Or because both have similar interests or political / religious beliefs. Focus on yourself and on becoming a better person. Nurture your talents. Most probably you will attract those that appreciate your flourishing attributes. If not, go your own way or improve your grooming / status / income or whatever attracts a sufficient amount of females.

[@3qguru]

In a way, her rejection is a catalyst for you to eventually actualize your hidden potential. This hits home hard for me too, and I see her rejection as powerful teaching

[@muslimbekabduganiev7483]

Oh I do not regret anything. Every rejection was a great motivation to grow stronger. I would loath myself for a while and then start thinking: "what could I do to become a better version of me?" And yes, there a lot of reasons (that has nothing to do with you) for being rejected. I understand that)

[@dadventurer36]

The question now is, is how can we become all we can be and what is the true meaning of becoming all we can be?...

[@phormzlab1743]

Watching this moved me to tears several times as it touched on so many things that mean so much to me. Not least Jordan’s unrelenting passion and genuinely heartfelt expression of what it means to orient oneself toward the infinite and despite seemingly inevitable failure, give oneself completely to what in every fibre of our being (if we are honest) know to be the truth. Thank you Jordan, to me you are an example of how to tread that treacherously (and terrifyingly) fine line between humanity and truth. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ✨🙏🏼✨

[@barbbeulah7139]

Beautifully said💗

[@onesojourner7514]

Very well put.

[@marayoung]

I am so glad that his teachings can be accessed by everyone around the world, he’s truly a gem, may God bless this man 🙏🏻

[@wolflightcapital3365]

Perhaps the most beautiful and genuine talk you’ll ever have the pleasure of hearing. Thank you Dr. Peterson.

[@asherpikesgoldenmoralcinem5770]

I’m literally gaining IQ points every time I listen to this man

[@jesh879]

For real

[@taryntickell4479]

Amen 🙏

[@DrCoaz]

Your lectures strike a needed chord in my generation. We each have so much difficulty writing the song of our lives.The notion that by imitating and or revering the highest ideal we can have some semblance of how to navigate this labyrinth is powerful. It deepens my love for my parents and for their attempts to embody the highest ideal so that one day I may come to understand it on my own. Thank you, absolutely remarkable.

[@WubiWatkins]

Have goals when you're young in your twenties and your early thirties but don't take yourself serious until you're 40

[@clearvision6418]

Beautiful piece of ART 🖼, Divine art, filled with truth. Thank You Doctor Peterson.🕊

[@astudent8885]

I just got rejected by a guy, and the shame is indeed the part that is most difficult to deal with. I'm going to focus on being all that I can be now. Thank God Dr. Peterson existed.

[@user-gx4wi4cv2m]

Why are you experiencing shame? I’m sure you have a lot of great qualities about you. For one you’re watching a very high level academic video on something. And that in particular is perception! So clearly your intelligent or at least seeking out wisdom. I wish more people were like you! And also you chose to do so. That’s incredible. Someone will see that some day cause that’s really important. I see that now.

[@astudent8885]

@@user-gx4wi4cv2m thank you for your kindness and encouragement.

[@garymccray7822]

You have nothing to be ashamed of. Every rejection, every failed relationship is one step closer to the right one saying "yes".

[@MZRTMusic254]

I'm assuming you're female. If you are then that feeling of shame is absolutely normal and it's nothing to be worried about. It's not a common occurrence for a guy to reject a woman. And if you happen to meet one then that's one of the most honest men you'll ever meet. Most guys (especially young men) are quick to jump on the opportunity because its more difficult for them to find partners who feel the same way they do. Women don't face such circumstances very often so it can catch you by surprise. Don't let it get to your head. It's a part of life we need to face if we want grow. I hope you're doing better now and improving yourself wherever you can...

[@sammo7877]

*exists 🙃

[@Lex-LutherS]

I remember back in middle and high school I never understood why people would enjoy watching and reading on these subjects or seminars yet here I am at 24 enjoying his speeches for nearly 4 yrs now

[@superdumbvideo]

A person so deep in his understanding and experience of psychoanalysis that you'd be hard-pressed to find one person that crucified for helping people survive and to objectively express the foundational complexities of humanity and life at the same time. Never been a better phoenix in the world of the mind and heart at the clinical level. Find yourself all the psychoanalysis professionals you want, but you won't find another with a heart that deep. Not one. Protect your joy, Dr. Peterson. Don't let ANYONE steal it.

[@aks1993kumar]

@Mitthenstein Another libtard ha ha

[@patmoran5339]

@@konberner170 a mixture of drama, mysticism, just making stuff up.

[@patmoran5339]

@@konberner170 science is not about skepticism. Science is about explanation. What specially did JP explain? Good art is often objectively beautiful as well but JP’s melodramatic presentation is clearly not good art either. He is pandering to creationists.

[@patmoran5339]

@@konberner170 The science of Psychology can only be the study of mind. The study of behavior is just another variant of Empiricism. Empiricism is false. And, once Psychology returns to the reality of abstractions such as mind and morality and aesthetics, there will be a revolution in thought that will turn democracy and other aspects of social organization from an authority basis to a knowledge basis. Empiricism always devolves into religion because it is very much like religion.

[@patmoran5339]

@@konberner170 Maybe I am a bot. And maybe you are a creationist. If you don't believe in mind then you are likely an Empiricist. Empiricists do not believe that abstractions are real. Do you believe that human thought can have causal power?

[@LauraNStout]

Your speech is like a song. Thank you, Dr. Peterson. I enjoyed it.

[@stephonalfred729]

Found Dr. Peterson at the most pivotal points of my life and man did he help shift, guide and empowered my life for the better. Shout out to doc P. 💯

[@descender2k]

ROFL

[@jonathanlance2166]

I could listen to Dr. Peterson for hours. His command of a subject matter with eloquent delivery is unmatched.

[@temiodebiyi6746]

This is the Art of understanding. The purest and most honesty Art form which I've ever encountered. God bless the human race.

[@divi1139]

Your lecture was truly fascinating and I agree that you've got something...Your lecture leads you to trying to determine what the basis of perception is (excluding societal/proposed-oppressive culturalization/socialization), after which you go on to talk about Wagner's Master-singers of Nuremberg. I've tried to gather exactly what you're trying to get at with this analogy and later with imitation and awe. And I think it's something like this; you have people, and they're all primordially awe stricken by greatness (as you explain in 49:40 segment) and instinctually desire to recognize, elevate and celebrate it (as explained in the Wagner's Master-singers of Nuremberg analogy). From this, what I have come to understand is that the basis of our perception is actually our ideal selves, in other words, everything we interact with and see we first derive its meaning in relation to the ideal selves we wish to strive towards...It seems right in some way, but also potentially wrong in others; like for example, I don't understand the connection between picking up a glass of water and drinking it. I'll try though. A glass of water, it's meaning is "drink" (I think) and so we want to pick it up to drink it. Why the meaning "drink"? Because that's what is meaningful about it in relation to our ideal self...in a very minimal way (or major way depending on how you look at it), "drink"ing is actually an important process in pursuing the ideal self, since staying alive is a pretty important step to take on the journey (maybe even the first). To make more sense of it let's try paper. When we see paper its meaning is "something to write on"; or so much more; maybe paper for you is the only mechanism by which you communicate with others because you are mute. What we perceive does seem subjective in some ways, but also unified by our shared goal of being our best selves. This is a side note. Whatever it's meaning, it is derived from its importance on our journey to become our ideal selves (needless to say, paper as a writing thing is important to know when trying to make your way though society). So I guess in some sense, what we perceive is shifts to how it might impact our lives and our pursuance of our ideal selves. An objects importance can be introduced and explained by culture and society, but even with that fact, the meaning we associate with the object, which is the first thing we see/perceive (which is for the better practically speaking), is always in retrospective of our primordial human desire to become the best we can be. That's what I've been able to understand and it makes a lot more sense to me now. Maybe going through it myself in writing helped others understand better too :)

[@juliancarax8949]

Let me clarify. And by the way, what is so fascinatiing about all this is that after all our history of rational ("Western") cultural evolution, roughly speaking steming from the fruits of the pre-Hellenistic times, we are right back where we started from at the recognition of the Logos. Through belief we orient our selves in this world which means that belief is our ability of judgment. The meaning presents itself by objectivity which we have to be able to discern subjectively in order for us to arrive at (more or less practical) knowledge. So without faith there can be no knowledge at all and the stronger your faith the closer is your knowledge derived to the truth. Mastery of any kind means that you have become so much acquainted with the Logos that you can now see as well as act out it's developing patterns across time because your subjectivity has been disciplined enough in order for it to not cause any more significant distortion. And this distortion is oftentimes no joke, especially in these postmodern times; sciences up until today have always spoken of remaining objective and have tried to do so by eliminating all disruptive influences of subjectivity which brought forth great (technological) utility as well as a very dangerous scientific conventionalism deeply rooted in a rational materialism challenged by very few given all the progress we've made so far. Yet, by aligning and unifying subjectivtiy and objectivity harmoniously instead of opposing them we might speak of an "ideal self" as you mentioned here. Therefore we don't derive the meaning in relation to the ideal self, but are in fact able to derive the ideal self from the meaning, provided that there is a striving towards that endeavour. And this includes nothing less than a profound confrontation with one's own subjectivity and thus all human error possible. Still, the meaning stays the meaning whether you are able to percieve it or not, whether you strive towards anything or regress. Maybe the master singers have reached the pinnacle of what is objectively possible but they are still somewhat puzzled by the knight's raw but undisciplined subjectivity that seems to already exhibit and display to a certain degree the very same potency of their own mastery and which perhaps at some point might even go beyond that and surpass them.

[@JosefSvenningsson]

Thanks. This was incredibly helpful. I got lost in the talk and this summary really helped clarify the main point for me.

[@neilneilneilneilneilneil]

A pretty thoughtful invocation of the meaning behind a glass and drinking from it can be found from Heidegger. He talks about the earth, the sky, mortals and the divine existing in our perception of things. Can't recall in which of his texts he writes about it. But he does an eloquent job of showing the imbued meaning in such a simple act as drinking from a glass. The phenomenologists did a pretty astounding job of explaining embodied perception and inherent meaning behind perception. John Vervaeke also has an interesting point about embodiment. When we pick up a glass, we have to shape our bodies to the glass in order to pick it up. We need to understand what the glass is and how we are formed and then literally emulate the shape of the glass with our hands in order to pick it up. Thus we actively participate in an embodied knowing if things, which precedes conscious directed motor function.

[@Fotoschiki]

I love how Jordan is lecturing essentially about the deep and meaningfull connection of all things and how we are in awe of the almost infinit but still capable of making sense of it and immitating it, while also embodying the exact thing he talks about, by tapping into the infinite wisdom of almost infinite disciplines and making sense of everything. This hour of him talking is in itself a representation of what he talks about and THAT's how you convince people that what you say is true. By embodying it and being yourself a testemony of what you say, that everyone can see works exactly how you claim it does.

[@darianhunter1742]

Wow. very well said

[@EverybodyUnite]

That woke me up! Lol Possibly the best lecture that I have every heard. It was an absolute honour to listen to such and honest, caring and super gifted man. He should be everyone's father. I am serious! God bless him 🙏🇬🇧

[@stewartmackey6195]

This MAN loves humans and should be listened to .There is no deceit in him . Pay attention children .

[@canucklehead0]

Of all the lectures I have been to, or listened to, I am always intrigued that I become almost instantly emotionally invested in Dr. Peterson when he speaks, and then although doing my best to process the information presented I can't help but find myself travelling along with him to wherever he takes us. Thank-you Dr. Peterson for the very natural and dynamic way in which you present your lectures. I may not agree or understand all of the time, but the insights and knowledge I have gained from you over the years has shaped me as a person and enriched my life.

[@sandygray3546]

May God always bless & keep Dr. Jordan Peterson happy and well. His brilliant yet extremely gifted pearls of wisdom makes my heart & hopes always precious & worth while. Love the essence of this extraordinary man. Sandy in California.

[@susieb7140]

Been watching this lovely man for over 5 years now. Cant say a bad word about him. Some of the attacks on his person were despicable.

[@Doctor.T.46]

The attack I have seen on his channel are with his views not him personally. I think you'll find that the personal attacks are made by his followers on those who dare to have a different viewing to his.

[@susieb7140]

I think an imterview on channel 4 a few years ago was totally disgusting. I have no problem with differing views. Thats what makes the world go round. That said , out and out attack on a person not conforming to others ideals is just plain wrong. Thanks for your reply.

[@katking6820]

@@Doctor.T.46 the left attack only his person not his thoughts because he is upstanding & correct in both areas.

[@Doctor.T.46]

@@katking6820 Please continue to believe what you want.

[@katking6820]

@@Doctor.T.46 case in point is the debates or interviews almost always come down to distorting his words or just calling him a racist with no proof .

[@bigdougbarkz]

The feeling you have when you find out a new lecture by JP is here is lit. 🔥❤️

[@jakubkuczynski683]

The last part on imitation and awe just blew me away. It is just such a wondefull conclusion to the lecture. Thank you mister Peterson, just breathtaking.

[@freezyourit]

Dr. Peterson is brilliant, he is one of our greater thinkers of today. What makes him so is that he considered and has given tribute to God.

[@dteselle]

He's back! So grateful that Dr. Peterson had the fortitude to make it through his struggles and the courage forge on!

[@EarlofSedgewick]

I'm not familiar with his struggles, could you elaborate? Not as a "gotcha" setup, but out of genuine curiosity

[@charleswomack2166]

@@EarlofSedgewick He thought that he was going to die at one or two points. He had become physically dependent upon a benzodiazapene drug and then after that, he had sleep apnea.

[@lizard6444]

This man just radiates pure brilliance

[@peacefuldoves]

Only an hour video? Huh. I seriously and truly would love a 4+ hour video. I never tire of Jordan. What a blessing to my non focused hellish chronic brain pain. Listening helps me focus. I adore intellect. The UK loves you Dr. J P 🇬🇧

[@daphnesuarez5924]

Oh I couldn't agree with you more! I don"t know if you have already seen Jordan speak on Joe Rogan's podcast called the JRE (The Joe Rogan Experience) but if you haven't, it is a MUST see! There are 2 episodes, the first one is 2 1/2 hours long & the other one is 3 hrs long & WOW it's truly amazing! I just can't seem to get enough of listening to Jordan speak, he is the most exceptional human being on this earth & I just feel so grateful & honored just to have been born in this Era to which he was born in. He has helped me so much in my life & in turn, I"ve been able to help everyone in my family & my friends as well. So if you have seen them, my apologies for going on about them but if you haven't, it is worth your time to see them. I have watched them many times!

[@genera77]

Or the bible series..........

[@dame_nation]

So agree. Such intellect and intelligence is truly a blessing and is much needed these days !

[@l1ncs]

there are 100+ hours of lectures by JP .. maybe start at the beginning of 'maps of meaning'

[@elektrotehnik94]

What Jordan's doing is "the stand-up routine": 1.) Tour the "smaller" shows 2.) Try out "jokes (wrestling with questions that matter publicly) 3.) Publish the best of the best, the distillations of "what sticks", in the "specials" like this one that get recorded

[@kush.mikashita]

7:41 When he started with the hands gestures, that's when I knew the lecture began. Thanks Doctor for what you're doing.

[@kod4062]

Man, this was so specifically something I was thinking through lately while processing deception in my own life. This lecture really leaves the realm of terminology and feels like I'm seeing the same shape puzzles in my head; almost like the alternative, fully linguistic path to a physicists ability to visualise the geometry of other dimensions. The consistency just shows how high fidelity the tools he provides to think with are... and how high I am

[@charleswomack2166]

Gobbledygook! The extrapolation of my masturbatory urges ends ultimately in ejaculation upon my girlfriend’s face!! How high am I indeed! I am of course just kidding! Ultimately, we all struggle with the issue of self-deception!

[@petersmitgary]

Every time J. Peterson gives a speech, there is always one.

[@voyd1507]

The only appropriate word which comes to my mind as a comment to this beautiful lecture is: Amen

[@dalespencer368]

I can sometimes forget how inspiring this man in. Ironic really how his speech about the night sky produces exactly the kind of awe that he is trying to describe. Thank you sir

[@markodakic8176]

Through 2 degrees and countless hours of KZbin i don't think I have ever heard a deeper, more profound and absolutely mind-blowing lecture.

[@jen_may]

Like a symphony of words. I love how all the constituent parts weave together. Exploring the lightest lights and the darkest darks and in the end all that’s left is love. 🙏🏻✌🏻

[@HerbertDuckshort]

Professor Peterson is the right man for the right moment in history. He’s needed more than ever.

[@SuperHellonwheels]

Listening to Dr. Peterson and his guests gets me excited for a great future for my kids. I have an 11 year old daughter and 14 year old son that I am currently home schooling. I worry about the future of America with our current leadership and the things public schools are pushing, ideology and victim hood. Listening to great people does give me hope! Thank you for always teaching me something new, this is why I listen to you. As a busy mom I don't have a lot of “me” time, so I am picky on how I spend it! Listening to smart, intelligent podcasters is my greatest joy! Also I love watching “The Chosen”, can’t wait for season 4!

[@TheGameIsUp1984]

This talk from one of our greatest living minds totally blew my mind...WOW!!!

[@modemarose4497]

You speak the language of my heart as it sings and I soar to the sound of the Humming of Strings. Thank You Dr Peterson this was Wonderful 🖤🙏

[@jesh879]

I see comments that share stories on here, or attempt to use words in the way that Dr Peterson does. Your poem seems just as deferential, and conveys so much emotion. Thank you for sharing.

[@modemarose4497]

@@jesh879 I've had a trying year & it's sometimes difficult to make sense of much of anything, except things of beauty...🌸 I appreciate your comment, thank you 🦋

[@jesh879]

@@modemarose4497 I'm sorry to hear about your year. I thought about it after you mentioned it, and mine hasn't been great either. If you ever want someone to listen, I'm here.

[@ThinkingOnGOD]

Wonderful meeting you and shaking your hand last night in Indy, Dr Peterson. Godspeed in your travels.

[@KristopherWilliams_tahmson]

How was it?

[@ThinkingOnGOD]

@@KristopherWilliams_tahmson it was great. Dr Peterson was very generous with his time. Because of the number of people at the meet and greet there wasn’t much time to be able to speak with him so he added a VIP Q and A after everyone got their pictures. There were probably 70 of us. Even after his road manager came out and told him we were there after the venues hours, he told them he’d take two more questions and then end it. We didn’t leave until nearly midnight and the show began at 730. He was genuine and kind. Leaned in and asked every person their name. Shook our hands upon introduction and again after the picture and bid us goodnight. They say never meet your heroes. You don’t have to worry about this with JBP. He exuded kindness and was very gracious with his time.

[@rachellee9953]

@@ThinkingOnGOD wow what a beautiful comment. I'm so glad to hear you had such an amazing interaction. He is so brilliant.

[@KristopherWilliams_tahmson]

@@ThinkingOnGOD That is so great to hear! I have tickets for April 28th. However, I did not sign up for the VIP tickets, but I am regretting that now. Are there opportunities to have pictures with the regular tickets?

[@ThinkingOnGOD]

@@KristopherWilliams_tahmson if you get the VIP meet and greet tickets you are given an early arrival time and a wrist band designating you as having that package/access. We did not see any opportunity to add this once there. I believe your best bet is to try to add it before the week of the show, if they’ll allow that. There were about 150 people for the meet and greet, which was much more than we expected. So you may want to hurry to try and add that. We felt it was well worth it. Good luck!

[@truetruth777]

I get that presence of awe, every time I hear this man speaks…

[@rick2216]

You know what makes Jordan more so powerful? It is he has gone through much ----- to get here and now he is finally - in terms of publicly, outside Academy circles - praised for what Peterson means to people. Giving answers in questions both asked and yet to be asked so others can see and end or at least a reason, to suffering and more. It's a man, you can write about for hours but it's better to experience yourself what he has to offer.

[@wtfgrooves3268]

Times Jordan experienced latency issues due to real-time formulation of a sentence: 8:50 - Sometime it's error ridden enough 9:38 - we have to be able to deal... 9:46 - the underline neurophysiological.. 10:50 - you don't learn anything except... 14:06 - NO! (honorable mention) 15:22 - and how is it that we managed... 18:55 - the self evidence of the stupidity of that categorical structure is actually the mystery 20:35 - to the aggregation of a library... 22:18 - the way we solve the problem of perception was through 3.5 billion years of evolution 24:34 - the object itself announces its utility in the perception 26:08 - the fact support the notion... 29:21 - as a part of the strategy... 35:25 - the psychopathy machiavellian... 36:47 - (the martial arts of constructing an argument) 37:03 - Yes (a tactic has been devised) 37:56 - Jordan takes time before choosing the risky path of operatic fairytale that may not impress the Cambridge audience 38:06 - opera 44:59 - raise this untutored but extraordinarily... 45:28 - patriarchical, power driven... 47:40 - WHY? (honorable mention)

[@bugsone5586]

Latency issues?

[@davipenha]

@@bugsone5586 Ping

[@truefilm6991]

Musician/teacher and amateur filmmaker (and related arts and crafts) here. This is brilliant! What I teach my students is: if you eventually manage to play a piece (or just a nice chord progression cliche with smooth voice leading) decently, you will find out that you don't actually play anything. You earned the privilege to feel the music running through you. Same with any artform. Nothing beats that.

[@jesh879]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom. You have also given me something to think about. Jordan Peterson has often asked, "Where did that thought come from? You think your thoughts are your own?" I think the same could be asked for music. The answer might not even be the same.

[@etfacetimehome]

"Love is the desire to work for the betterment of all things." -Jordan Peterson

[@whiteship100]

Formulation of your words and thoughts is like a drop of water to the thirstiest man on earth. You truly make world a better place. Thank You

[@facundomoreno6408]

I remember one of his talks in which he described I think it was Bach´s music and pointed out at the way Bach would come back to the note he first started the sonata with after branching out to the point of making it seem like he had lost track of his song, but all of sudden he´d nail it back to that note and that would be the most iconic note of that sonata and the part that everyone would recognize it by.... and Jordan does the exact same thing with his speech. He´s the Beethoven of speech, he´s the greatest at it, it is pure divine art. He starts with a question that needs an answer (that we all need an answer for), and then he goes on branching out for two hours and comes back at it with the answer, in tears, and it´s just mind and heart blowing. It is music, it is art, it leaves me speechless hahaha... Blessed we are for being able to listen to him. THANK YOU JORDAN, THANK YOU!

[@ernestwaterfall4525]

‘’You don’t see objects and infer meaning. You see meaning and infer objects. And that’s really something. You can think about that for like 40 years … Primary object of perception is meaning not objects.’’- Jordan B. Peterson

[@kimberlific]

I've studied linguistics, have a degree in computer science, and I'm a devout Catholic. (And dabbled in psychology.) I'm a novice at all of it and more, but this hit resonances with so many strings. Thank you, profoundly, for sharing this. So much to chew on...

[@jessw0808]

Your inference sources are much much appreciated in all of those studies 💜 we need more like you across the board

[@brendam8572]

Ive been binge watching everything Dr. Peterson talks about the last few weeks since I discovered him most of the things I hear him saying Ive known them intrinsically I get an intense feeling of recognition in my spirit like Im hearing echos of things in my mind especially since my oldest son passed away a few months ago. Ive been desperately searching within my own mind for the meaning of my sons life and death a pursuit that makes me feel like im living in a pressure cooker Im honestly surprised I havent lost touch with sanity over the loss.... I would love to ask Dr. Peterson what has kept me alive after such a soul destroying loss.... What combination of knowledge inside of my vast archive is responsible for it? Ive been an aggressive problem solver all my life all I do is intake and process useful knowledge and information to help whoever needs it.

[@fedediblasi]

You are really something, Dr. Peterson, really something. It is said that the best way to inspire others is by showing passion, and, oh man, passion has been shown in this lecture. I really mean it when I say that Jordan is one of the only thinkers who can truly grasp the problems of our time, and communicate it in a very compelling way. This lecture, along with his classes and his books, will be watched, read, re-watched and re-read for a long, long time. You have already became one of the most relevant thinkers of our time, and I believe there's still much more to give. Thank you Jordan!

[@georgefultz142]

This man blows my mind! I love hearing him talk, he makes so much sense. Thank you for spending your life to teach others.

[@francesbattley4942]

Thank you so much for allowing us to listen to these lectures. It’s great to be able to stretch my thinking.

[@williewalsh6113]

This is genius level of thinking, and very generous sharing . Thank you Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

[@daphnesuarez5924]

@Mitthenstein And you have a degree in what?

[@sirhenry_]

@@daphnesuarez5924 learn to ignore trolls

[@2_in_wann]

Thank you Mister ! You making me growth everyday .I've an aim and I'm moving increasingly towards it. God bless you Jordan

[@jonathanlance2166]

Wow!!! Have listened to this talk twice. It is amazing how Dr. Peterson shows the complexity and benevolence of man versus the simplisitic and malevolence view of man described by the left. He is correct that it is the benevolence of man that eventually wins.

[@Mizfar2009]

I'm awe-struck by the end of every video I watch of Dr Jordan, and not just by the content itself but the way he communicates it in such a digestible yet elegant manner. I wish i had friends who would watch this and appreciate this mind opening video with me. I wish I was surrounded by people who would sincerely discuss deeper ideas like that.

[@elach.2038]

That was emotional. thank you for posting it. I am an artist. It was a pleasure to listen to it. Our paths may never cross, as I am definitely not in your circle of academics, not even close to ever encounter your presence, but I encounter what you were describing, something that makes us emotional beyond understanding.

[@missybees1104]

I like to listen to Dr Peterson while painting. There is something about his words that hits us as artists. It’s like a music.

[@katking6820]

@@missybees1104 I believe he would really appreciate you listening and painting.

[@davipenha]

something that is so deeply truth that is inside of us all

[@torqingheads]

He gets better and more emotional and expresses his genius more eloquently with every speech. He is like a drug on which you can easily become addicted. Finding Jordan Peterson is one of the greatest treasures.

[@akaku9]

One of these things is not like the others.

[@jacobholtz2723]

Was at your show Tuesday night in Grand Rapids, it was a pleasure listening to you in person! I joked with a friend that it was a different lecture, and the same lecture I’ve heard 100s of times, simultaneously. That’s the nature of the questions we’re all trying to wrestle with!

[@dwaynehicks3867]

I think 'my' Heaven, when I get there, is a dinner in a nice restaurant with J.Peterson and T.Sowell. Brilliant Brilliant Men. 👏