Solving Transformers 3's Biggest Plot Hole

[@khumokwezimashapa2245]

This is a PRIME example of why we shouldn't look too deeply into some movies

[@Theorymus]

But it's just too much fun not too 😉

[@metal_fusion]

@@Theorymus There wouldn’t be any fun if everyone was a good storyteller otherwise it would be non-obvious-to find the fun

[@kfbnation4019]

@@Theorymus I have a suggestion what if Jazz survived the first transformers movie

[@Grimlockidw24]

@@kfbnation4019 he already made that

[@garrettsmith6102]

@@metal_fusion It does make the bayverse a little easier to understand.

[@aaroneclipse514]

This brilliantly explains why Sentinel cut off Prime’s right arm. He knew Prime would be weaker if his index arm was severed. Outstanding analysis Theory!!

[@byteshothunter2381]

Ehh that was the arm of Optimus that was best in reach and easiest to stab , so maybe it was a coincedence

[@FazeRustyNuts]

​@@byteshothunter2381 bruh everything is way too convenient for it to be a "coincidence"

[@darkshadow510]

@@byteshothunter2381shut up you no imagination loser it’s not a coincidence he is on to something sentinel know Optimus and was highly trained so it makes sense

[@LightningZetton]

I always thought he didn't want to move or force the cables cause it will do damage to his gadgets or his jetpack or even worse gets stuck inside and it would be impossible to remove it. A perfect example is Dropkick in bumblebee movie when he transforms after bee throws a chain on his helicopter mode, the chain gets stuck in many parts of his body and when bee pulls the chain... you saw what happened to dropkick. So maybe it could've happen to prime too or his weapons. Nice video tho

[@K1ng_Squ1dZ]

Bro if michael bay ever plans on bringing back the bayverse you should be a producer for the plot or something, you seriously are insanely good at making stories and fixing things in movies

[@Theorymus]

Thanks my man, thats the dream👍

[@joec7217]

I don't think he will ever bring it back tbh

[@luistyleralvarez6702]

Even tho I doubt he will bring it back I agree with this comment

[@flamebreaker7318]

What do you guys mean he'll bring it back like he has the power to make that decision

[@TACTIK00L]

​@@flamebreaker7318 the transformers movies altogether made billions, its very likely theyll remake these movies eventually

[@sgtgreenhaze]

I think Prime would have the knuckle spikes on him at all times, so maybe he didn’t pull them out for two reasons: 1. Most of the cables were out of reach 2. He was sorta panicking, as any person/robot would act while tangled up while your allies were being attacked

[@amymatthews2732]

besides even if he did pull them out, the angles of those spikes wouldn't make them very sharp to cut through cables they're more like knuckle dusters than anything.

[@HDGamerofficial]

I love that you referred to the ultimate decepticon takedown as “Prime Beyblading himself” 😂😂😂 makes me love that scene even more 👏👏👏

[@Theorymus]

Haha 😄

[@amyawolford]

Do you even know what a bayblade is? I do because I have one, and by one I mean about six

[@HDGamerofficial]

@@amyawolford I have a lot more than six I’ll tell ya that much, but I don’t have a problem with the term he used 😂

[@amyawolford]

@@HDGamerofficial me neither, he was acting like a bayblade by spinning and slicing up decepticons, i would just call it something else, like, ya know, MASS MURDER, A CRIME

[@alivebacontgm2]

Where is it?

[@unknownentity8489]

I always figured Optimus was simply too tangled up to effectively grab one of his blades, combined with the flight-tech armor. It kinda reminds me of the armor from Robotech Battlecry the game. The armor offers additional firepower, but at the cost of being able to transform the mech and mobility. Also, with the Wreckers already on the scene, it probably wasn't really necessary for him to have to use the blades. Not to mention, with them around, they likely freed him in a way that resulted in him not falling to the ground below, as opposed to what likely would've happened if he did the job himself.

[@mercury2157]

Could he not have just shot the crane where the wires started?

[@amyawolford]

@@mercury2157 then he would have to drag a crane everywhere because he was still tangled

[@mercury2157]

@@amyawolford he could've also used one of his blades

[@happyboy7093]

its funny imagining optimus just being tangled up waiting for the wreckers to free him

[@arnoldabenesjr2321]

Another reason why Optimus couldn't have use his Energon Sword because he was upside plus their was a bunch of cables making stuck so I think that is the reason why he couldn't get himself up and free himself earlier

[@SuperGamefreak18]

Not only that he was tied up in such an awkward way that he would have to cut through himself

[@windsor8540]

Nvm against sentinel the energon sword came out of his arm but it was the one had the handle

[@tffan1029]

Is it weird that I never heard of this "plothole"? I never even knew that this was something that people pointed out. I always thought that the time it took for Prime to get free with the Wreckers' help was a result of things going by naturally off screen and the movie just cut back to Prime and the Wreckers at the time it did was just the movie getting its audience caught up with what was happening while the action was still going on. But hearing about Prime using his weapons to free himself, I would have thought that he was either too discombobulated from being tied up and/or the cables wrapping around where they did would made it difficult for Prime to try and free himself. But, that's just me.

[@StareachValcin]

I honestly never saw this as a plot hole, but thanks for explaining how it was a plot point, and nice use of previously established information on Optimus Prime and assessments of what happened between revenge of the fallen and dark of the moon.

[@TerminatorTheory]

Bay has this sort of art form where a character with only 3 minutes of screentime feel like they're always taking up most of the film, recycled 3D models look brand new and original, and plotholes/errors go unnoticed. Hell, I always had a mandela effect there was a scene of Optimus untangling himself from the wires!

[@waangluong7830]

Same I don’t remember the wreckers freeing him however it has been a long time since I watched DOTM

[@SgtAJ218]

I've never noticed that plot hole in DOTM even though I've watched this movie a hundred times. Also, great job fixing and explaining this plot hole. This is definitely a PRIME example of why Optimus is the best leader ever, He learns from his mistakes.

[@LowTierMarston]

Despite me watching Dotm many times I never saw this as a plot hole until recently and now after watching this video you've completely changed my mind. Also congrats on 200K subs.

[@cp368productions2]

The simple explanation is that with the extra guns covering his hands he couldn't do anything. And while he was freeing himself, the Wreckers showed up right after he was tangled, so there was no reason for him to continue and he just let his companions free him.

[@DarthOminis]

Wouldn't the biggest plot hole be the whole 'If all the primes except Optimus died protecting the sun machine, how is Sentinel there?'

[@pennygirl015]

I mean no one knew Sentinel was there until they found him. Even Optimus thought he was died on cybertron. Misinformation happens all the time. The problem is that this was never explained in the film.

[@TitaniumPrimeOFFICIAL]

0:54 Bro are his wings made out of flimsy cardboard or just flexible metal

[@Deinobi]

Probably just flexible. You can see lots of seams and fold lines in the wings.

[@maximillian5102]

Cardboard

[@hitthefloorlpu2003]

I've watched transformers 3 so many times didn't know there was a plot hole keep up the great videos

[@Theorymus]

I sure will 🫡

[@poikei8037]

same here. i really liked it, dont know why so many hate it. i remember watching it in theatres in 2011. such an awesome movie

[@JOJO-oj8gy]

@@poikei8037 people are literally hating on the entire Bayverse lol

[@PolskaProductions1]

Congratulations on 200k! Great video as always

[@Theorymus]

Thanks my dude, that really means a lot 👍

[@mario7182]

I’ve literally watched this movie for years and years and never noticed that he was dominant with his right arm, Awesome video btw

[@Optimaloptimus]

Optimus is quite literally right dominant handed as well. In all the shots we see him with the mega striker and when he pulls out his ion blaster, he always chooses his right arm to use/fire them. Which means he's right dominant.

[@oish6684]

i love these kinds of videos, just straight up looking way too deep into minor bits of these films - the amount of of details you put into these videos is awesome, love it!

[@lusurama5080]

In TF2, when Jolt made Optimus more powerful than he ever was with Jetfires parts, he just dropped it after killing Megatronus. Why didn’t he keep it? It made him stronger and clearly he didn’t have a problem handeling the extra parts or the weapons. And he would’t need the extra flight tech in TF3, because it would just be part of him like Starscreams wings are part of him.

[@shauntempley9757]

That is what the trailer holds. All the attachments he got from Jetfire, were reversed engineered for him to use as he needed. The thing is, Shockwave even after encountered, and Soundwave were never accounted for in those developments. It is kind of why the Decepticons were such a huge threat to the Autobots. Because, for every advantage the Autobots gained, the Decepticons always developed counters.

[@baltazarsanchez886]

Excellent video bro. I have a theory about of how Galvatron back to Megatron in TF5. I considering Queentessa (Or how that writed) use the chains that she use in Optimus for regenerated his body parts; remenber when OP fell in Cybertron, he lose various parts. And that is why Galvatron turns to Megatron and why she shocked Optimus Prime. ❤️

[@DanielGarcia-od1bs]

He already made a video on that

[@darkusblader]

As a kid i always thought it was because he had the cannons on his arms and couldn't eject them because they would be damaged.

[@The_WumboTM]

I can’t believe the weakness of Optimongus is flex tape

[@Brazil10003]

Man, when I read the video's title, I thought you were going to explain why the Earth wasn't affected by Cybertron's arrival through Sentinel's Space Bridge. Specially since the novelization gives an explanation to this. In fact, I never noticed this detail about Optimus until I've watched the video. Still, I hope you can one day explain that plot hole and mention the novelization (and no, I won't reveal the answer because I don't wanna spoil the surprise to those who didn't read the novel). Still, this video truly deserves a prize, Trans! 👏

[@natto4now]

Idk if it's possible but could we get a video on Shockwave's driller worm thing because I've always find it so cool and fascinating, like did they build it? Is it alive or is it an extension of Shockwave? Can it transform? Stuff like that

[@Theorymus]

You know I've actually had that video planned for a while. I just haven't got it around to it but it's definitely a fun little story.

[@natto4now]

@Theorymus hope it happens someday cuz the driller is pretty cool imo the whole building takedown sceme was so cool

[@amatsu7619]

Agreed. I'm also wondering how it got to earth considering how big it was, which would have caused a huge crater.

[@elpenguinoofmexico1388]

I mean Transformers as a whole has a ton of plot points so this one isnt even that big. Optimus getting tangled in metal wires always made sense to me as a kid cuz i used did have knowledge abt how dangerous coils could b from a bridge building book I had, so I just assumed Prime was afraid of snapping himself in half due to sudden movements like transforming. There r bigger plotholes than this imo. Like wtf has Megatron been doing sitting on all this info abt the moon landing and sht from late 2000s when he only unfroze himself in 2009. Hell if he coordinated with Starscream properly he couldve just brought the 300 decepticons from the moon for the invasion. They’d probably still lose to the US military if they pulled the nuclear option but by then, Megatron couldve alrdy left w/ his prize

[@anjaneyasreetrout2444]

I always assumed he was unable to free himself because he was too tangled up to be able to move. Plus that flight tech wasn't exactly flexible to begin with considering all the heavy weapons in its arsenal.

[@generalfishyclone6620]

You should make an optimus life storyline as im cunfused how he was made by quintesa along side from some of the first transformers ever while somehow still not knowing about the fallen yet still acting like nothing happened when he was an archivist in cybertron

[@dbexodia10]

He probably keeps his left hand free most of the time for grappling. Most of his fights involve him grappling and throwing opponents whilst slashing or stabbing with his right.

[@mirb4805]

honestly you are one of my fav transformer KZbinrs, I recently rewatched 4 & 5 of the movies and got hooked back (the live action movies) it brought back so many memories and is m literally watching theory videos every second lmao, I'm glad there's people who make videos about it to satisfy my hunger 🤣

[@marialopez-ql9ec]

I clicked faster than Sideswipe rushing to kill Sideways Edit: Top Comment, let Gooo! Second Edit: Damn it

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

Imagine being so traumatized by your own inability to save somebody that you always keep your best weapons equipped from that point forward.

[@cutercills9x9productions9]

Well, Prime was also late to the Mission City battle. He did have a cool incoming scene, but he certainly was way too late, and by the time he comes, Jazz is dead, part of the street is destroyed, and I know he was separated from the group by Bonecrusher, but he was way too behind. But the comics did state that Barricade picked a fight with Prime and some other commonly clear obstacles all drivers face like traffic and going to the right streets could justify this long wait. So if Barricade's distraction and traffic problems were canon, it is pretty reasonable why he would be late.

[@kokushibo1014]

Everyone : talking about ways to free himself from the cables Me : just shoot the cranes and see for the cable later :/

[@lenaally-jq9xr]

Optimus only had one energon blade cause he throws his left blade to grindor

[@jonahlink987]

When hes killing Decepticons in dotm

[@TheFalconCaptain]

Beautiful eye opening video All of your videos are but this one hit different slightly, wow

[@BlueSpiritFire1]

Yeah I always just assumed he was too tangled up to free himself. Pet head canon of mine is that this is the same reason he took so long to show up to the final battle in TLK. I like to imagine he got blindsided by chunks of falling Cybertron and was tangled up and Dragonstorm had to come and save him 😅

[@ВгостяхуЭндеркинга]

Imagine being a leader of a more peaceful fraction of cybertronians, yet getting so many weapons that you can’t carry them anymore and need a whole weaponry trailer

[@orhandalegend]

the miscalculation also allowed prime to now carry a wrist blade (he uses it in TLK)

[@Theorymus]

Good eye 👍

[@alexanderbilstien3471]

I was thought the controls for the flight pack was linked to the gun controls, so if he was to let go to cut himself free he might not be able reach back into the controls to flight and would smashed into the floor

[@kaoriferguson7288]

We all know he didn’t cut himself down because he had to make a dramatic Optimus style entrance to the fight

[@wooper-ro8sl]

I'm getting curious what would have happened if wheeljack had survived and would he would have been used as a tool or just killed

[@Resolver_Convoy_2160]

I love Dark of the Moon just as much as everybody else, in fact it's probably my favorite installment in the series, but I would've never guessed this minute detail was the prime plot hole everyone is talking about. Because oh my God, this movie was full of plot holes, ones way bigger and more mentionable. Like, I don't know, how did Megatron incorporate Optimus resurrecting Sentinel into his decades old scheme to take over the planet if Optimus didn't even obtain his Matrix until 2009?

[@footlessmoonbadger7189]

It's simple. Megatron planned on using the Matrix of Leadership on Sentinal as a way to back door the Fallen once their plan succeeded with the Star Harvester. Optimus just happened to have the Matrix in present day. As for the "being worthy to wield it" issue, Megatron probably didn't know about this aspect of the mcguffin.

[@thelseemsus6020]

Optimus actually does has his blades within his arms like before. It is seen in optimus' rage. The reason he couldn't use the sword tho was because he had the jetpack guns equipped. Which blocked his use of the blades.

[@alexandercampbell9165]

In age of extinction I always assumed he had his left arm blade he just didn’t use it so it didn’t get disintegrated like the right one until it got removed by lockdown

[@christianparrish3292]

Your next video should be about how did Optimus get his arm back in transformers age of extinction.

[@MrWaSpY-Trn]

True🚛.

[@watterztrail7870]

One word: Ratchet

[@OneWithNoFace]

He did

[@Devo57]

I choose to believe it was all due to the projectiles that Shockwave fired, I think they were specifically engineered by Shockwave to incapacitate Autobots and temporarily disable certain functions and prevent them from being able to move too much or use weapons, so he could take Optimus as a prisoner like the decepticons did with the other autobots. (Although it’s hard to explain how the wreckers had enough time to free Optimus without being noticed by Shockwave or other decepticons)

[@mercury2157]

That's a nice theory but it gives way too much credit to these movies' abilities to explain this stuff when it would be genuinely necessary

[@shauntempley9757]

What you describe, is kind of expected by many Transformers fans for Shockwave to behave. He has always planned for disabling Autobot abilities in all other appearances, and it was always to slow them down. This is where he clearly did so.

[@josephfiandra4523]

While I never liked the concept of the weapons becoming detached from the boys completely, this was an excellent way of looking at that scene in particular. Well done.

[@Fenris77]

Biggest problem I had with this and succeeding movies was how it retconned the first two and made it worse for every sequel afterwards...

[@spartanimus621]

Might be a stupid question to ask but how come in the first movie optimus is a prime but he doesn't have the matrix of leadership which can make you prime?

[@novustalks7525]

The swords he has in his arms are different from the ones in his trailer. He didn’t just suddenly lose the ability to pull them out of his arms. His arms literally transform into them

[@mercury2157]

He still had one in his arms, because he pops it out right before he fights Sentinel

[@novustalks7525]

@@mercury2157 he has both of them. His arms become the swords

[@robinjollimore7312]

​@@novustalks7525no he got rid of one of them

[@novustalks7525]

@@robinjollimore7312 no he didn't. The swords are his arms

[@robinjollimore7312]

@@novustalks7525 no one of them is handheld and were you even watching the video?!

[@antichad7541]

id love to see theorymus make some content on other tf media (alined continuity, earthspark, ect)

[@Theorymus]

It's definitely an idea I have thought about but the reason why I don't do It is mainly because my Passion is for the movies. And I don't know too much about the other continuities so I wouldn't be qualified

[@metal_fusion]

@@Theorymus We already have Rodimus Primal for G1, Emperor Kumquat for the align continuity, and TheFirebrothers for everything- don’t sweat it

[@_V.Va_]

Honestly, Optimus going back to fly to his trailer and equip weaponry would explain why it took some time for him to come to the rescue.

[@gojirae.l.h.9431]

Theorymus coming in clutch with more theories and confirmations, a huge plus everytime i watch ur vids

[@eanna3781]

Or the more likely answer lorewise, he couldn't take them out because of the guns on his forearms with the flight pack

[@Warmachinemk11]

Wait a minute

[@sparkswipe3549]

Now, this is making me wonder why he doesn't he have or use his ion blasters in AOE/TLK?

[@cool12jack]

Very interesting I always wonder why Optimus never cut himself down

[@lipe890]

8 hours?

[@cool12jack]

@@lipe890 become a member of you would like early access to videos

[@lipe890]

@@cool12jack Ohhh ok,thx

[@aisgeming0049]

Early what i want to see early new video

[@cool12jack]

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[@alexandergordon3432]

I thought the reason he couldn't get free from the cables is due to those big guns on each hand which would make it impossible to use anything else at all.

[@Transformers_nerd_stop_motions]

Another successful video on fixing up movies, keep it up!

[@SHADOWEMPERORB127]

Prime is both right handed and left handed but mainly used his right hand, just like me 😂, great theory like always and keep up the good work 👍

[@IbanezAlex]

anyone ever notice Optimus throw his blade at Grindor? it's on 8:29 too.

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

"During the scene where he Beyblade's all the Decepticons-" 😂

[@christianparrish3292]

You should do a what if video about what if Ironhide wasn't killed in DOTM, and was still alive in AOE and TLA.

[@waangluong7830]

Wheel jack: “Prime where are you?!” Prime: “sorry I’m a little tied up right now!”

[@QurikyBark32919]

Congratulations on 200k subscribers!🎉🎉

[@Theorymus]

Thanks 😃

[@FireFlies120]

Theorymus is back everyone, best transformers theory man😂

[@Theorymus]

Thx my dude

[@Gearzilla117]

The fact that I sat here and watched the entire video... On a subject that I wasn't even pressed about in the first place ... 10 out of 10

[@thezombieslayercornelius884]

You know, I realized that age of extinction was the only movie that gave prime an on screen and valid reason why he was late in that final battle the ship got shot down

[@raconbacon5649]

You could say rotf was also valid in a way

[@pyrodude5119]

"YOU ARE THE ONE WHO TAUGHT ME FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT."

[@fungushater843]

i can imagine the awkwardness the wreckers had trying to untangle him

[@Rincogo]

To me I always thought he didn't want to cut himself out because he didn't want to damage his flight tech, so he let the wreckers do it. love the videos as always .

[@MichaelJEngelmann]

I like when they have their weapons attached to their body. Like a built in feature. Also saw a video saying Age of Extinction, those weapons were different from previous ones bc they came from his body.

[@Noble_76]

One thing that I've wondered about is the Human affect on them, like why are they human looking in AOE & TLK but not the other 3 and 2nd how his other weapons were destroyed when Lockdown captured him

[@Visionater1818]

My friends: don’t let theorymus continue he’s a mad man! me: wait, *let him COOK!*

[@ATMNS]

i thought of the whole "he could have just slice the cables away" stick but he probably would have free fall without enough time to use his jetpack

[@aaronsheppard6246]

Love your videos and unpopular opinion the og trilogy of transformers is the best media of all time.

[@amyawolford]

TRANS! I got big news and it’ll be an idea for your next ROTB Video, the studio series boxes for the maximals mention something called the “transwarp key”. Once we get more info on the key, you should do a video on it.

[@scourge_studios1125]

AMAZING theory!!! You always manage to blow my mind! And it’s also just entertaining XD

[@dkkanofkash8798]

I mean, look at his hands. They are stuck inside the huge gatling blasters he is wearing that came with the kit. Why would he drop one of them from the height at which he was stuck to free his hand a deploy an Energon blade, losing a powerful weapon, if he saw the Wreckers arrive seconds after being stuck? Especially considering that he needed both of them to destroy the Decepticons later on.

[@keithvsmith]

I honestly never noticed how detailed that scene was of him hanging. I never notice how he has his arm/hand out of the one gun and it's hanging from the flight tech, nor did I notice the whole one side oof it being detached from his back part neither.

[@yousuffer5505]

There is a bigger plot hole in dark of the moon explained by pointlesshub, Megatrons plan for Sentinel was for him to crash land on the moon and then get rescued and revived by Optimus. This plan makes no sense since Optimus didn't get the matrix until revenge of the fallen and how did Sentinel land on the moon exactly where the Allspark and Megatron would land, seems like a plot device.

[@alexandergordon3432]

7:58 When Optimus goes ham in the forest battle there is a point where he ONLY uses his left energon blade.

[@jetscream8080]

those cables hold several tons of weight everyday and are extremely durable. Even if he had the swords he might not have been able to cut the cables due to how strong they are.

[@22zachprime32]

What about Optimus's arm blade or hook to free himself? I also think Optimus will use an arm blade for the situation instead of a sword or axe.

[@cuatro2271]

Congrats on that 201k man! It’s 9:34 PM for me, so I’ll say have a good night man.

[@CrappyProductionsOfficial]

what's more surprising to me is that: why didn't shockwave do anything when prime is tangled up? he's vulnerable, it's literally the best opportunity to end him

[@traviscrumbey7969]

There is NO WAY he watched this video during the editing process and thought, "Yeah, this is an important discussion"

[@TACTIK00L]

I have no idea how u be coming up with these explanations, this is seriously some impressive stuff💪💪

[@firepower9642]

I like prime with combat weapons more than long range weapons, cause I would love a combat fight scene

[@liamhamilton9086]

I always figured Optimus, when he first equipped the flight tech, left most of his other weapons behind in order to be as light as possible when flying. Considering the circumstances Optimus did not want to prolong his current mission which was to take down the driller beast (minimizing the destruction and chaos was the primary motivator to taking that thing down). He of course would have kept at least one weapon which was his sword/right wrist blade (since we’ve seen enough that he’s more skilled with his right then his left). It makes sense to keep at least one weapon, especially one you can use effectively should you be shot down or enter a confrontation that requires more than just what else you have. Going off of the explanation as to why Optimus couldn’t have used his sword/blade, and changing up the theory that perhaps he left the other stuff at the trailer alongside his other sword, we can assume that once he was untangled from the wire he flew directly to the trailer to equip himself wi the as many weapons he could carry as surmised in the video. The risk of appearing late to the battle was far less than the risk of prolonging or even losing that fight (Prime’s rage) should he have been under equipped. The theory in the video makes hecka lot of sense.

[@williamhays7356]

I never considered it a hole, I just assumed he went and got more weapons off screen

[@OG.Trippster]

I know you mainly do bayverse, but since bb movie is no longer canon to it can you make a theory to where megatron could have been during the cybertron scenes?

[@Theorymus]

I plan to do this video but I want to wait for rise to the beast in case Megs appears, which would be key info for the theory

[@OG.Trippster]

@@Theorymus that’s makes sense, I’m so scared they are gonna mess ROTB up

[@Frozen-Ice]

I feel like every game, movie, cartoons and anime needs a book on explaining in between episode, movie, 2nd game forward and also off screen moments to just make a bit of a sense.

[@Gunnumn]

When i saw the thumbnail, i immediately knew what plot hole you were talking about.

[@boxytheboy145]

Im saying this before I'm watching vid my guess is that since he was combined with jet fire he could not use his energon blades ( because the giant cannons are on his arms) free himself that is my best guess. Back and that actually makes total sense

[@shemarcorbin6713]

Optimus prime is the only Autobot carries the most weapons in the franchise, other autobots carries their signature weapons, even weapons that only seen in one movie and never saw again. Update: Hound from the 4th and 5th had more weapons too. Which proves it in the 4th film, but I don't know many weapons hound has compare to Optimus. I just realize it, because I forgot about the 4th and 5th movie Autobot (Hound, Crosshair, Drift, and Hot Rod), because I liked the first three films a lot better than the last two films.