Solving x^{ln(x)}=xln(x) | A Log Equation

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SyberMath

SyberMath

Күн бұрын

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@Mediterranean81
@Mediterranean81 6 ай бұрын
5:00 i would subtract t on both sides and differentiate to get 2t-2=ln(t) Then exponentiate both sides So (e^2t-2)=t Differentiate with respect to t and simplify to get 2(t-1)e^2(t-1)=e Take the Lambert W function 2(t-1)=W(e)=1 t-1=1/2 t=3/2 x=e^3/2 and x=0 are the solutions
@stvp68
@stvp68 Жыл бұрын
In music, tutti (fr Italian) means “everyone” - so we’re all in included!!!
@DrR0BERT
@DrR0BERT Жыл бұрын
How about showing f(t) = g(t) only happens when t = 1? Consider h(t) = f(t) - g(t). h(t) is continuous on (0,+∞), with derivative h'(t) = 2t - 1 - 1/t. If t = a is a second solution, then by Rolle's Theorem there would be a point t = b in (0,+∞) strictly between 1 and a with f'(b) = 0. There is only one solution to h'(t) = 0 in (0,+∞): t = 1. So no b exists. Therefore the only solution to f(t) = g(t) is t = 1, which is what you wanted.
@miguelcerna7406
@miguelcerna7406 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Where do you find these problems? There is just something ridiculously beautiful about the "tangency" between both functions being precisely at the point (e,e) F-ing so cool! lol
@franckplanks
@franckplanks Жыл бұрын
Solved by inspection.
@christopher679
@christopher679 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@bramont6225
@bramont6225 Жыл бұрын
Gracias profesor bonito ejemplo
@conradosetti3781
@conradosetti3781 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what sofware he uses to make his black boards
@relentlessmind9008
@relentlessmind9008 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! На русском спасибо - Just wanted to tell you thanks for your effort. Also wanted to ask you proff, can you add some trig equations from time to time? It would be awesome!
@mehrdadbasiri9968
@mehrdadbasiri9968 Жыл бұрын
Nice one... Thanks for your videos...👍👍👍.
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq Жыл бұрын
Unlike f(t) and g(t), f(x) and g(x) "osculate" (kiss?), because f''(x)/g''(x) is positive while f''(t)/g''(t) is negative.
@alphaomega3944
@alphaomega3944 Жыл бұрын
Math class AND art class. Cool indeed.
@Paul-222
@Paul-222 Жыл бұрын
This was trickier than it looked at first.
@stevemonkey6666
@stevemonkey6666 Жыл бұрын
If it is confusing to not have parentheses then should you not put them there in the first place? Seems weird to me that you started your video by putting the parentheses in, when you should have put them in originally. And by this I am referring to lnx^x
@nasrullahhusnan2289
@nasrullahhusnan2289 Жыл бұрын
RHS of the equation should be interpreted as ln(x^x,) or [ln(x)]^x? To distinguish the two how we must write them without using bracket?
@SyberMath
@SyberMath Жыл бұрын
It’s ln(x^x) because lnx is not in parantheses
@nasrullahhusnan2289
@nasrullahhusnan2289 Жыл бұрын
I don't get your explanation due to the my unability to write properly exponential with variable. Anyway thanks for the response. To make it clearer I'll use number as exponent. How we write ln(x²) and [ln(x)]² with no bracket so that it is clear which expression we mean. From your explanation we write the first as lnx² since no bracket is needed in writing ln. The second one must be written as (lnx)². No way not to use any bracket.
@Packerfan130
@Packerfan130 Жыл бұрын
x^(ln x) = ln x^x x^(ln x) = x ln x Note that if 0 < x < e, LHS > 0 but RHS < 0 so no solution on (0, e) ln x^(ln x) = ln (x ln x) (ln x)*(ln x) = ln x + ln (ln x) (ln x)^2 - ln x = ln (ln x) (ln x)(ln x - 1) = ln (ln x) Note that ln (ln e) = ln 1 = 0 and (ln e)(ln e - 1) = (1)(1 - 1) = 1*0 = 0. Thus, x = e is a solution. Define f(x) = (ln x)(ln x - 1) - ln (ln x) for all x > e Critical points where f'(x) = 0 f ' (x) = (1/x)(ln x - 1) + (ln x)(1/x) - 1/(ln x) * 1/x f ' (x) = (2/x) ln x - 1/x - 1/(x ln x) f ' (x) = 0 when (2/x) ln x = 1/x + 1/(x ln x) 2 ln x = 1 + 1/(ln x) 2 (ln x)^2 = ln x + 1 2 (ln x)^2 - ln x - 1 = 0 ln x = (1/4)(1 +/- sqrt((-1)^2 - 4*2*-1))) ln x = (1/4)(1 +/- sqrt(9)) ln x = (1/4)(1 +/- 3) ln x = 1 or ln x = -1/2 x = e or x = e^(-1/2) However, both are outside the domain of f(x). Thus, no solution for (e, infinity)
@broytingaravsol
@broytingaravsol Жыл бұрын
x=e
@elenadraganova7992
@elenadraganova7992 Жыл бұрын
My way: x^(lnx)=xlnx x^(ln(x/e))=lnx , ln both sides ln(x/e)lnx=lnx lnx=0 or ln(x/e)=1 X=1 or X=e^2
@jeremygalvagni9266
@jeremygalvagni9266 Жыл бұрын
You wrote ln both sides, but didn't then ln the right. ln(x/e)lnx=ln(lnx)
@giuseppemalaguti435
@giuseppemalaguti435 Жыл бұрын
Io ho fatto così... Applico ln... lnxlnx=lnx+lnlnx... pongo lnx=t.. t^2-t=lnt..una soluzione è t=1,cioe x=e, che dovrebbe essere unica ah ah
@mychmose
@mychmose Жыл бұрын
I love your videos.
@scottleung9587
@scottleung9587 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@matematikguzeldir
@matematikguzeldir Жыл бұрын
I've watched this video last month @mathpositive channel. I guess you steal other's questions.
@chrisjuravich3398
@chrisjuravich3398 Жыл бұрын
Because these questions are in the public domain, it’s not stealing. I think it’s very helpful to see how other people work the same problem.
@matematikguzeldir
@matematikguzeldir Жыл бұрын
@@chrisjuravich3398 At least he could have said the source. Of course we all solve similar questions but this one is an equation written by @mathpositive. So a quotation would be fair
@nodawg
@nodawg Жыл бұрын
nice vid
@james10492
@james10492 Жыл бұрын
Interesting problem
@barakathaider6333
@barakathaider6333 Жыл бұрын
👍
@leonardobarrera2816
@leonardobarrera2816 Жыл бұрын
just a perdect video
@souzasilva5471
@souzasilva5471 11 ай бұрын
De onde saiu o igual a zero? Where did the equal to zero come from? Resposta forçada.
@peteneville698
@peteneville698 Жыл бұрын
Why not just say "log" instead of saying the letters "l" and "n" - it's so annoying. Everyone knows that "ln" is the natural log - absolutely no-one is going to assume base 10 just cos you said "log".
@kianmath71
@kianmath71 Жыл бұрын
X = e
@rakenzarnsworld2
@rakenzarnsworld2 Жыл бұрын
x = e
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