I love the drill instructors, first one with an Ulster accent, and then the second one with the Welsh, British Celts, backbone of the British Army.🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
@lewfrazer67349 ай бұрын
The mick from Ulster , Sammy Conner , One of the best
@professorminstrels64609 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as an ulster accent
@WILLIAM1690WALES9 ай бұрын
@@professorminstrels6460 everyone has an accent, including a moron, like yourself I probably would describe it as the accent of a dickhead?
@coolmacatrain94347 ай бұрын
@@professorminstrels6460 There are two distinct Ulster accents. One is called Mid-Ulster English and the other, smaller one, is called Ulster-Scots.
@frankmorton1920 Жыл бұрын
I did my basic training at the Guards Depot, Pirbright in 1965. Happy days and the start of a long military career.
@Stanly-Stud11 ай бұрын
who cares
@budte11 ай бұрын
@@Stanly-StudTry not to be a twat all your life.
@Stanly-Stud10 ай бұрын
@@allanxxxxxxxx who cares
@Stanly-Stud10 ай бұрын
@@allanxxxxxxxx No
@Stanly-Stud10 ай бұрын
@@allanxxxxxxxx hurt your feelings dear?
@davidcorbett62 Жыл бұрын
I had to laugh when they said no bullying no violence.. I have seen recruits lose their teeth for falling asleep during rifle cleaning, recruits with no skin left on their knees told to go round the course again, recruits lifted by their ears. ( very painful) etc etc plus of course the odd fatality and medical discharge. We had potted sports every week, never once did we finish without one recruit ambulance off to hospital.. The British Army was a very tough place to be in the 1970,s
@Goalie002 Жыл бұрын
I remember my dad talking about para depot in the 70s and the Monday morning routine being him and the other recruits stood at attention on the parade square whilst hungover NCO's walked the line and randomly punched them. No violence or bullying at all there!
@davidcorbett62 Жыл бұрын
I was in the Para Depot in the 70,s ( Jnr Para Coy). And yes that happened and much much more. It was looked upon as “hardening you up” You where a Para so had to be tough
@briangatt295611 ай бұрын
Clearly toned down for the tv cameras present
@Fatty2-sj8vr11 ай бұрын
My dad said that he joined in 73 and his only three words it was hard. Ncos were brutal back then. He used to say they played the winker song on the camp radio. It said I wink all day and all night. But translate that into British army humour it became something else.😅
@davidcorbett6211 ай бұрын
@@DM-ur8vc Well it was a highly scripted British army lol Like when some muppet of an MP was visiting, you where told what to say lol
@montywright529711 ай бұрын
Ah! Pirbright holiday camp. Enjoyed my 18 weeks of rest and relaxation there in 1971. A breeze!😂😂😂
@GR100011 ай бұрын
Love the slashed peaks 💂♂️...
@arslongavitabrevis5136 Жыл бұрын
Loved how the Welsh Guards sergeant took the mickey out of the guardsmen who did not know how to salute properly (LOL)
@kevinadamson57683 жыл бұрын
Can't beat a good old fashioned Guards nco screaming at you.
@patriot47863 жыл бұрын
Why dont they do that nowadays?
@kevinadamson57683 жыл бұрын
@@patriot4786 political correctness and fear of upsetting someone with harsh words . That's why todays soldiers wouldn't have hacked it 30 years ago , having said that they still do a good job and it's not their fault that times are changing .
@josephmorgan33823 жыл бұрын
@@kevinadamson5768 None of it has changed...
@josephmorgan33823 жыл бұрын
@@patriot4786 They do, idiot...
@patriot47863 жыл бұрын
@@josephmorgan3382 nope, nowadays its soft..
@liverpoolscottish643010 ай бұрын
The NCO's are superb blokes- backbone of the British Army- first class!
@TheGmeister81211 ай бұрын
We had a fearsome (and much respected) Scots Guards section leader, during a drill session we had to repeat after him at the top of our lungs the timings… without missing a beat, to a man and boy, we did… including in his accent!! The look on his face… 💀 everybody froze! but it was so funny he simply couldn’t help but laugh however much you could tell he wanted to melt the squad. The words just couldn’t come out
@peterwicks985111 ай бұрын
The Household Cavalry Training SQN moved from Windsor to Pirbright just before i joind in 1966 so we did the same as the Foot Guards for 14 weeks instead of the 18, then on to trade Training on armoured cars at Catterick. As trained soldiers we didn't do any drill with the tankies but got roped in to a road run once and our fitness was so far ahead or theirs, even the PTI couldn't keep up with us! The Guards Depot was extremely hard graft but it turned tough Soldiers. The instructors were always keen to point out that everyone screaming at you have been through it as well. I remember we had a fiery Scots Guard Sgt instructing us on bayonet practice, according to him you had to twist the bayonet before pulling it out! Wouldn't want to face him on the battle field, great days.
@togawearer279911 ай бұрын
There are big gaps in military history. Write a small engagement for us and try to remember the details and document. Cheers mate!
@Stanly-Stud7 ай бұрын
Oh shut up
@iainreid9822 Жыл бұрын
The Irish Guards Sergeant at the beginning of the video went on to become the Company Sergeant Major at Infantry Junior Leaders Battalion. His name is Sammy Conner.
@johnsabini2330 Жыл бұрын
Old school NCOs & soldiers👍
@Richard500 Жыл бұрын
Was that in Oswestry? I spent an awful night there when going to collect an absentee of ours from the the Guard Room where the civie police had dumped him.
@bastogne31511 ай бұрын
I'd say he was from Roscommon given his accent.❤
@togawearer279911 ай бұрын
@@bastogne315 Pfft! That is incest levels of community! Respect, I suppose?
@leftin7410 ай бұрын
Did he go on to be a war criminal as well
@jimmyjohnson7027 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't tall enough to be a Guardsman. Thank f*** for that.
@PatrickJOHanlon11 ай бұрын
what was the.required height
@jimmyjohnson702711 ай бұрын
@@PatrickJOHanlon Five foot nine or there about, I think. I am five foot seven. The bullshit in my lot was not much different to the Guards as it turned out.
@PatrickJOHanlon10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply
@edbaker51510 ай бұрын
Been there done that....over fifty year s ago .. started 16 year's of age . Intake 36 only 10 pass out. Guard's depo pirbrigh ....I always remember the time in the guard s depo was 1, 2 , 3 1,
@philbrandon05328 ай бұрын
Long way up, short way down. 2,3 up, 2,3 down Heels together, neck in the back of the collar and look up. Heels dig into the ground, arms shoulder high and look up, dig dig dig 💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️
@gerryholland727410 ай бұрын
Most NCO's had a great line for all of this.........Character building!🤣 I started my character building in 1962......
@sim8018 Жыл бұрын
The guards are complete mustard 👏🏻👏🏻 cool as fcuk and in the olden days……. The complete full on combat best of the best soldiers! (I served 8 yrs as a coldstreamer) 🤛🏻🤛🏻🙌🏻
@nmw667410 ай бұрын
Went to Coldstream village last year on a visit. Very small and quiet. Nice little place though. Had to go because me Grandad ( Coldstreamer, who I never knew) was killed in the Salerno landings in 1943 under Mark Clark....(less said about him, the better). Grandad was 6"3', not sure how he died. Would love to have met him. Often think of him and his mates during that fateful time. I still have the MOD letter to me grandma about his death. He was 23 when he died. Yeah...looking up at you pops...N.
@christopherquinn58999 ай бұрын
@@nmw6674 My grandfather was a Coldstreamer 3rd battalion, and he too was at Salerno and their subsequent campaign. He was wounded but fortunately he was able to return to his family at war's end. He was awarded the Military Medal in the fighting in the hills in the days after Salerno. Unfortunately when I was a boy I could never get him to talk about his time in the war, and I would so loved to have heard him tell me. It seems that the loss of comrades affected him badly. I too made a point of visiting Coldstream a few years ago for the same reasons that you did. I think the Coldstream Guard tended to be a Northern Regiment around that time, he was from Burnley. They were a tough bunch and it was passed to me that other regiments could not understand how they were required to have immaculate kit and boots whilst serving in the field. From what I have read Salerno was tough, very tough. It was so bad that Clark & Co considered withdrawing from the landing. When you hear about D-Day and invading Europe they only talk about Normandy but these guys went into Europe first! The terrain appeared to favour the Germans more than it did in Normandy. You should be very proud of your grandfather, as am I of my own.
@Richard500 Жыл бұрын
Ah the wonderful "warm up drill" 5 minutes flat out right before normal drill practice. Once, as a Junior Soldier I went into a Guards Junior Soldiers barrack room to ask directions to another part of their barracks. One of the other lads leapt to his feet, marched up to me and said, "Can I help you Trained Soldier"? I had no idea what to reply as I was little more than a year ahead of him in a NON Guards corps. I went to the Guard Room and asked.... 5 minutes of being screamed at and I was sent on my way to the Dental Hut, shaken AND stirred!
@davidfogarty22209 ай бұрын
Do you remember it was called 'beasting'.
@postwar4610 ай бұрын
As the doting mother once said whilst watching her son on parade , " Look there's my Johnny, he's the only one is step ! A lot of good was achieved through National Service. Self discipline was instilled, and respect for self and others was achieved. The world is a long way from this today where indiscipline and no respect abound and the mobile phone is the preferred device.
@briangardiner352010 ай бұрын
The only one in step😂 We were marching at Aldershot in 86 we were shocking a mate in front was getting screamed at marching like a “f,,,,g Rockhopper” we could not help laughing that stopped during the following beasting. 👍🇬🇧🏴
@Adam-if3zd10 ай бұрын
Have you worked with the current British Army? If you had I can tell you that they are still extremely good. No way would we won't conscription because it means we would have to take quite a lot of shit into our superb army
@paulboulter78232 ай бұрын
Compliments on the march ..eyes right ,check turn..you never forget!!🤣🇬🇧
@davidravenscroft9235 Жыл бұрын
This is what the youth of this country need and quickly.
@greg_420111 ай бұрын
literally the only thing that can save this country. and it always should have been a basic requirement to become an MP I can't even bend my mind to the level of stupid hat would want it any other way.
@leftin7410 ай бұрын
No it’s what you need and quickly. It’s your generation who let the uk go to the shitter. It’s not the young kids fault, it’s yours . No good bleating about it now. If conscription was so good for the country, how did it turn the UK into a 3rd rate dung hill and your generation let it happen
@tommyhall66959 ай бұрын
@@greg_4201doubt if they could hack it now unfortunately
@Coolerman565 Жыл бұрын
My Dad did his training at Caterham with the Coldstream Guards at the start of WW2.
@bobdonaldson118310 ай бұрын
We can all relate to the DRILL WONDERING COULD WE MASTER IT The Drill PIgs did an amazing job
@gordonadamson585411 ай бұрын
When the Guards were the Guards unlike the shower they allow in these days
@mjspice10011 ай бұрын
hmmm, I think the modern army has acquitted itself quite well, with the Falklands, two Gulf wars and Afghanistan not to mention Northern Ireland.
@caerleon8711 ай бұрын
Falklands was 40 odd years ago!!@@mjspice100
@PeterNgola11 ай бұрын
@@caerleon87you missed the point
@caerleon8711 ай бұрын
Perhaps..@@PeterNgola
@Wardog-rf1tx11 ай бұрын
Guards Depot, 20 weeks, June 1974. British and Canadian total of 33 years.💂♂️🪖⛑️🏴🇨🇦
@raybenstead254810 ай бұрын
Joined the RAF as a boy entrant in 1960 at the age of 15 yrs and 9 months. It was a life of hell with the DI's on billet inspections. Beds overturned, the coke and coal for heating thrown across the floor and trampled in on the highly polished lino. Lockers up ended and the screamed verbal abuse. Then there were the cross country runs of about seven miles in full kit with the instructors breaking the ice on the frozen ditch in winter for us to wade through. On saying that i still remember the names of all the instructors. Ah those were the days but thank fcuk i am now almost 80 and think the government should bring back national service perhaps then there would not be so much crime amongst the younger generation.
@bertiewooster332610 ай бұрын
When i fought in France we fell into a German trench with about 12 Soldiers as i fell in my 18inch baynot went straight into a soldiers chest i had a hell of job getting it out 1916.
@richaustin49919 ай бұрын
Those were the days…
@davidfogarty22209 ай бұрын
Looking at that Welsh Guard lance sergeant's tombstone gnashers, I would say a visit to the Dental Corps was required pronto.
@ThePleasent1 Жыл бұрын
Doff dite, doff dite , doff dite lol
@davidfogarty22204 ай бұрын
Or was it luft dite, luft dite, luft dite?
@nickwilkinson584911 ай бұрын
Fantastic stuff
@NyPer9209 ай бұрын
Recruit Intake Term III/67, Junior Leaders Regiment RA, Bramcote, Nuneaton, Warwickshire. My Drill Instructor was Sgt Ken Wilkinson. Many memories!
@marcuscelt701411 ай бұрын
Just like the carry on movies lol
@leftin7410 ай бұрын
Or Monty pythons skit
@daveholmes657010 ай бұрын
Spot on I was looking for Norman Wisdom
@matthewpowell6516 Жыл бұрын
elf,ight,elf,ight,elf,ight...............
@nigelwhybrow925711 ай бұрын
Bayonet training I had to do it twice as I was back squadded due to shin splints ,,1st time round was scary and flipping horrible the 2nd time I laughed from start to finish
@gunhojput11 ай бұрын
Lol i was in the green jackets back then we called the guards 'wooden tops for reasons we thought them a bit silly, however the guards fighting record stands forever high and btw sarn majors all had the same name!!
@davidfogarty22209 ай бұрын
Due to the wooden framework inside their bearskins
@stevekay548610 ай бұрын
My father joined the coldstream guards underage before the war, If he was alive now I bet he would laugh at how easy it is now.
@nacholibre19623 жыл бұрын
Back when soldiers were soldiers.
@TomTheGamer9133 жыл бұрын
we still do bayonet training
@leocy50603 жыл бұрын
@@TomTheGamer913 r u an army
@j.cheese34 Жыл бұрын
@@leocy5060 good English there😂😂😂
@MrOdsplut Жыл бұрын
It's the same now
@arslongavitabrevis5136 Жыл бұрын
Soldiers were soldiers because men were men, not namby-pambies like nowadays.
@SF-pq3sq11 ай бұрын
The SLR 😊🇦🇺🇬🇧
@pauledwards5573 Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe I was part of this age 17!
@JohnCollins-u8v10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the year this was done, my late dad was in the coldstream guards in the late 50's to early 60's, i love to think he was in with those lads
@peterdickenson4249 ай бұрын
i was at caterham late sixtys lad was beaton up to get him out of the squad
@richardroberts86273 ай бұрын
1966
@keithmason748110 ай бұрын
Brainwashing to eliminate any individuality ,same philosophy as the prison service, to instill unquestioning 2:12 obedience
@Horriblebastad4 ай бұрын
Otherwise known as discipline.
@gripper588 ай бұрын
Lol guards trying to March @ LI pace 😂😂😂
@jeanettereid3013Ай бұрын
Marching up and down the square!
@johnminshell75955 ай бұрын
Our Sergeant yelled at a Recruit “that’s not the way “, he had about a 50 inch waist “ Now run at me with that Baynet and this time let’s hear you scream .” The recruit Bayonet Charged at the Sergeant letting out a Piercing Scream! We all thought he was going to run him through, but the then the recruit stopped dead with the Bayonet just inches from the Sergeants huge Belly , The Sergeant Bellowed “ Well what’s wrong with you man ! “ The recruit answered “ I would have killed you ! “ ,The Sergeant Shouted “ Kill me with that Pig Sticker ? my Skins too thick for that! Get back in line” ! I have to laugh when they say “ we will bring back National Service 😅
@Coldstreamer177 жыл бұрын
when the british army was fun, and the NCO's were screaming like hitler..
@christopherquinn589910 ай бұрын
I get the impression that the British Army was a tougher force than it is now. I hope I am mistaken.
@lagvin719ify Жыл бұрын
legend says that it's still happening up to this time
@paulmorrison-hs4lw11 ай бұрын
my dad was a chef there in 75-77 Coopers Hill Drive
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv10 ай бұрын
Seasons, saluting, for the use of. I do think there should be seasonal salutes. For instance the Autumn salute goes up as normal but the hand makes a slow, fluttering descent to the side of the body as a leaf from a plane tree. The Spring salute is a clenched fist that snaps up to the cap, and then the fingers slowly, tenderly open like flowering buds until the smart and soldier-like position of the hand is formed. 🫡
@pauledwards5573 Жыл бұрын
SLR rifle great weapon
@greg_420111 ай бұрын
so is the SA80 🤷🏻♂️
@Adam-if3zd10 ай бұрын
It was long. Unsuited for fighting in a built-up area or deploying from armour personal carriers. Ammunition was taking up a lot more room than 556 rounds. It didn't have fully automatic capability which you need if you want to lay down some fire if you want to breakthrough and ambush or suppress enemy fire. It was ok for the 60s but by the late 70s it was definitely out of its time
@christopherquinn58999 ай бұрын
@@Adam-if3zd Perfect for a bayonet though.
@ajwest308110 ай бұрын
I’m sure the SWOs are speaking in an alien dialect!!
@GavTatu10 ай бұрын
ohh slipping on those bashers boots !
@IwasBraveFor2WholeSeconds Жыл бұрын
I was bleeding useless in infantry basic training, I didn't have a clue what was going on.
@lablackzed3 жыл бұрын
Happy day's. 🇬🇧
@lahmerscad2 жыл бұрын
still remember Lancsaster and jimmy spears
@Horriblebastad4 ай бұрын
The SLR 🙂
@trondog85033 жыл бұрын
A lot tougher back then, and they looked a lot smarter.
@TomTheGamer9133 жыл бұрын
absoloute bollocks lol
@j.cheese34 Жыл бұрын
You have a point. Guards now are stubby and fat lol used to be tall and strong
@shaneevans1753 Жыл бұрын
@@j.cheese34 did they only recruit lads 6 foot plus did they? 😂😂😂
@j.cheese34 Жыл бұрын
@@shaneevans1753 yeah used to be a requirement
@fitnessisgood4u Жыл бұрын
True. They were taller and smarter, can't deny that.
@liaulugu21615 ай бұрын
How did the cameraman survive the bayonet training?
@williamnoble2947 ай бұрын
Memories of Pirbright
@lahmerscad2 жыл бұрын
looking back i realised was necessary needed to mold your self to face difficult tasks towards the future .. .
@Jeffybonbon11 ай бұрын
Sandhurst was full of Guardsmen in my time
@tommyhall66959 ай бұрын
Mainly all instructors
@rappers571911 ай бұрын
Halt, check, 1-2!
@MedicJ.D Жыл бұрын
Bunch of crows :)
@Peter-lm3ic10 ай бұрын
The Guards Regiments are a law unto themselves compared with the rest of the British Army and always have been. For instance Guards Battalions, Regiments or Brigades etc can only be commanded by Guards officers. Line of Foot officers need not apply!
@Stanly-Stud9 ай бұрын
Who cares
@allancale944110 ай бұрын
Wouldnt be allowed today they would all be off with stress !
@michaelmutphy907711 ай бұрын
Ah yes lads, the old days are gone forever!
@simongee8928 Жыл бұрын
By what is seen of American military basic training where the recruits are screamed at in their every waking moment, the standard of this Guards NCO is positively gentlemanly - ! 😅
@bastogne31511 ай бұрын
Some irish accents in there.
@robertphair428511 ай бұрын
Wtf had plenty of skelps and punches in training and my head split open with a rifle. Ridiculed plenty.
@christopherfisher780511 ай бұрын
BAA :::: TWO THREE!! BAA::: TWO THREE!! BAA!!!
@liverpoolscottish643010 ай бұрын
"UUuuuuuup!!!"
@davidgaston738 Жыл бұрын
jolly old pirbright oh dear did some suffuring there in the 60s
@heli-crewhgs528510 ай бұрын
Aaargh! Aaargh!
@OzBloke10 ай бұрын
Wait for iiiit 😜
@ken-u3n10 ай бұрын
They are nowhere near as smart or well-drilled as they were at Pirbright. Just look at any Passing Out video ( including the Juniors) from Pirbright days. Today's lot are not a patch on yesteryear's Guards. I take my hat off to anybody who survived Pirbright back then. 👍
@mineblock90243 жыл бұрын
No violence allowed???? Certainly wasn't true in the 1980's - I lost count of how often we got chinned by the Sgt's (yes you Sarn't Tidswell!!)
@Sidney1WG Жыл бұрын
MineBlock, I had a little chuckle about the "no violence" comment too. Is he shitting us? I had a drill cane rammed in my throat for flinching when a wasp stung me. I mean...how fucking dare I. 🤣🤣
@str8downdnb_mod360 Жыл бұрын
John Tideswell was mine too...
@patshiels5429 Жыл бұрын
The RAF officer should be in the nick
@Adam-if3zd10 ай бұрын
Why?
@franktower900611 ай бұрын
Difficult to ridicule somebody if you miss half of your teeth.
@NeilFirbank-en1yd10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@phillawrence514811 ай бұрын
Training has been hamstrung by the fanny brigade now. Sad
@BellogsTheChicken3 жыл бұрын
Old school so much better
@arslongavitabrevis5136 Жыл бұрын
No doubt about it. I did not serve (very bad eyesight) but I have been studying military history for nearly 40 years and is obvious that until the 1980s the British army was a formidable force, perhaps the finest army in the world. The people running the UK since the 1990s ruined everything.
@Adam-if3zd10 ай бұрын
All of you who think that this produce better soldiers those days and the British Army producers crap soldiers today, have no experience of the contemporary British Army. I joined the army in 1983 and I've recently finished working as an mod civilian with the British Army now. The complexity of today's battlefield equipment requires you have much more of thinking self-motivated soldier rather than the old tiktok wooden head fixed Bayonet and charge. Look at probably one of the finest fighting armies in the world, the Israeli army. They don't spend a lot of time on fancy drill but they do spend a lot of time on perfecting their role and on the combat scenarios. Proof of the pudding is eating how they have won countless wars and not been defeated
@thomaslutro55607 ай бұрын
So, sar'nt ought to have spent a little less time shining his boots, and a little more time on his teeth.
@camrenwick3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of bullying in the army. The bullies get promoted.
@nufcdave65783 жыл бұрын
The bullies get promoted so where's your proof in that??? I was a Guardsman I was friendly woth all the senior ranks not once did they try and bully me.
@paulritchie58683 жыл бұрын
You only get promoted if you have talent...no bullying in my day but lots of honest feedback.
@kevinadamson57683 жыл бұрын
I was in the Scots Guards and certain people did get picked on, usually because they were useless or funny looking but no more than say in a factory or building site. I worked in a factory after the army and I would say there was more bullying there than the army, bullying is not big or clever but it happens everywhere not just the army.
@patriot47863 жыл бұрын
You softy who cant bear being shouted cant be in the military..
@nacholibre19623 жыл бұрын
Shut up, you pansy! What the hell would you know about it?
@caerleon8711 ай бұрын
What the fuck is funny about that?? People just starting out on their national service??
@leftin7410 ай бұрын
Now it’s all done by a geek on a key board.
@Adam-if3zd10 ай бұрын
Where do you get the idea from? Have you had any involvement with British Army contemporary phase 1 and phase 2 training
@leftin7410 ай бұрын
@@Adam-if3zd I have no idea of anything connected to the British army, haven’t lived in that shit hole for 50 years now. See how they go against the Russians
@mikewinston870911 ай бұрын
🌈🌈🌈🌈
@issimondias10 ай бұрын
I don’t understand what’s meant to be hilarious about this.
@h7283 Жыл бұрын
Most of the hiarachy are mentally ill
@greg_420111 ай бұрын
in the Guards? or you mean society at large?
@davidfogarty22204 ай бұрын
Agreed. Many want power for all the wrong reasons.
@alexlamont447011 ай бұрын
Pirbright brilliant met good friends there 1972 do what your told and keep your mouth shut and keep your bed area clean😂so said csm mayne
@davidfogarty22204 ай бұрын
I was their in 1972. Do you remember Sandes Soldiers' Home?
@Devonshireoldfart10 ай бұрын
No bullying? Bollocks! Junior soldiers were beaten, kicked, subjected to 'regimental baths', by the instructors. Two RWF corporals in our case. Same at the regiment in Germany, initiation it was called, why having certain parts of your anatomy whipped while held with sausage tongs is beyond me? Then there were greased broom handles, grease guns and being forced to down a pint of urine. One mate necked it, and because he did it with no complaints, they made him do it again with a "floater" in it. Give me a break.
@georgemulford291010 ай бұрын
Why do they behave like that?
@Devonshireoldfart10 ай бұрын
@@georgemulford2910 it was the culture, young men 16 years old were subjected to brutalisation that today would find the perpertrators in court. One lad was held down by two other junior soldiers whilst a third stabbed him in the stomach with a bayonet, no grudge or arguments, the 'stabber' wanted to know what it felt like to stab someone. Some juniors were tied onto their bare bed frames with buckets of cold water thrown over them, the kicker came when the shaver socket which most beds had as part of the overhead light for each bed space was wired up and turned on. Joining the regiment was also bad, new boys were subjected to abuse, initiations and assault, sometimes at the instigation of NCOs, occasionally by NCOs. Of course who could a youngster turn to? The chain of command for complaints had to go through the actual perpetrators, which usually resolved itself by threats, more assaults or extra duties until any complaint was withdrawn. Most youngsters did the minimum required and got out, the system doesn't work for junior ranks
@georgemulford29109 ай бұрын
@@Devonshireoldfart I believe you. Why would that be the case though? Doesn’t seem very professional or honourable let alone morale boosting.
@Devonshireoldfart9 ай бұрын
@@georgemulford2910 life was made hell for "sprogs" because people got away with it, the same was happening in childrens homes, borstals and behind front doors across the country. Even PIE(Paedophile Information Exchange) had influence within certain political parties, then you had Saville, Glitter, Rolf Harris and others within the entertainment industry. As for the army? I know particular regiments gained a reputation for brutalising and bullying recruits, the Welsh Guards were notorious after the Falklands war, this was long before 'duty of care' or child protection laws were brought in. I was 17 when an NCO would enter our 3 man room after getting drunk in the mess, he would stagger in, straddle our shoulders and kidney punch us, or try to tear the hair out of your head. This was at the regiment. Young,black,brown they were all fair game back then. I was determined my kids would never experience that, I've dealt with a lot of veterans over the years, and some have horrific stories to tell, with one or two still traumatised, and they're in their 50s and 60s!