some ways to obliterate a beat like NYC '97

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Tony Black NYC

Tony Black NYC

Күн бұрын

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@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
As you know, or don't, you can add/subtract eq from the original loop, season to taste as you blend it with the tone...and you can tailor the gate to let the tone kick be long or short. It was really to show that you can create options from very little. thanks!
@SoundSignals
@SoundSignals 3 ай бұрын
Really cool technique, thank you for sharing. You have plugins that can do this without the all the routing. Sasquatch by Boz, Fosfat by Klevgrand, Texture by Devious Machines, Sub Generator by Denise Audio etc
@TuchNGoh
@TuchNGoh 3 ай бұрын
@@SoundSignals subloom? I think this works too in a similar fashion . I use it on breaks
@othelo989
@othelo989 3 ай бұрын
Wow this is the Best HIP HOP CHANNEL I've Found this year keep it up PIMPIN! 🎵🎶🎹🤠
@GrumpyEyeAudio
@GrumpyEyeAudio 3 ай бұрын
interesting. what I always liked doing when I got a loop like that, was adding a parallel resonating filter to boost the fundamental frequencies of the kick and the snare. But yeah, some times you just don't get a kick that's hitting bellow 100hz
@nrgskillmedia
@nrgskillmedia 3 ай бұрын
extra tip: with a spectrogram, check what is the more pronounced frequency (and therefore note) of the original kick, then use a sine wave of the same note (down an octave). The kick will sound more "musical". I also tend to tune the kick to the root note of the song's scale.
@BuddahHead
@BuddahHead 3 ай бұрын
As a 24 year old producer who makes old school hip hop (and never had a mentor) people like you are a blessing Tony.
@LennFurnace
@LennFurnace 3 ай бұрын
Tony's on his way to leaving these other youtube producer channels in the dust fr
@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
there's others on youtube? damn.
@raykane2063
@raykane2063 3 ай бұрын
This is Pure Platinum having a real Vet who actually was there showing us how it was done..with videos Like this your channel will grow exponentially.
@os2w4rp
@os2w4rp 3 ай бұрын
Very cool, Ableton Live's Drum Buss effect has a "boom" setting that automates this process.. I use it often
@soulchorea
@soulchorea 3 ай бұрын
I love your (exclusively hip hop, lest you forget) channel! This kind of stuff is awesome; demoing old school techniques like this could be a whole category on its own, perhaps?
@peoplelikeus123
@peoplelikeus123 3 ай бұрын
It was more an art than a science back then. That’s the true lesson.
@dj-sandstorm
@dj-sandstorm 3 ай бұрын
This is great. And the way you explain is very clear and relaxed.
@recluserecordings
@recluserecordings 3 ай бұрын
Heard about people doing this trick. Thanks for showing in detail. Great stuff!
@rayid2003
@rayid2003 3 ай бұрын
using a side-chain gated sine wave to increase the punch of the kick 🤯🤯🤯
@tomblaze2
@tomblaze2 3 ай бұрын
You are the best man - learning so much
@sandrolecirque
@sandrolecirque Ай бұрын
Wow I've never seen that technique before. I imagine Dilla did something similar with his kick/bass?
@jakubowskij
@jakubowskij 3 ай бұрын
Love this. So simple yet so good.
@WAROVART
@WAROVART 3 ай бұрын
To the point and easy to grasp thanks Tony
@Adetokunbo-f
@Adetokunbo-f 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant knowledge given. 💎 💎 💎. Thank you 😊
@ambeatstv9848
@ambeatstv9848 3 ай бұрын
The sp404sx has this as an effect, shame the mk2 didn’t carry it on. You can adjust the sine frequency and gate threshold. It’s a nice way to fatten up your drum breaks.
@TuchNGoh
@TuchNGoh 3 ай бұрын
As a producer im Loving this
@ruddyrockz
@ruddyrockz 3 ай бұрын
This is OG 90s boom bap big studio mixing…. They would run sine wave thru drawmer gate & trigger it w/ kick drum..
@gilliatt57
@gilliatt57 3 ай бұрын
Tony, your videos show that you're more than a guy sitting behind a console (and occasional cigar smoker). I never realized just how complicated music production is until I started watching your stuff. Keep up the good work!
@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
I need to get out more.
@aldali724
@aldali724 3 ай бұрын
Already waiting for part 2 now
@claudeimanuel
@claudeimanuel 3 ай бұрын
pretty cool, ive heard of this in a few places, tuning the hz tone to the fundamental pitch of the song or drum kit resonances will definitely gel it together id say ,
@StuffnSuch
@StuffnSuch 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, much appreciated 😀
@Dubroar
@Dubroar 3 ай бұрын
I never knew, that's good stuff. Thanks!
@foreverthestudent
@foreverthestudent 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for that gem O.G.
@Bville-E
@Bville-E 3 ай бұрын
This is why you are THE MAN !!!!!!! & that Oxide is simplistic fire....
@shine_uno
@shine_uno 3 ай бұрын
Really valuable information if
@waxprophetic
@waxprophetic 3 ай бұрын
a lesson and a blessing. super dope!!!
@middlesidetopwise
@middlesidetopwise 3 ай бұрын
Isn’t this going to create phasing or weird issues in any actual bass instruments though?
@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
it could. or is that part of "the sound"?
@EvilTwinzTVOfficial
@EvilTwinzTVOfficial 3 ай бұрын
fire!!!!
@Adetokunbo-f
@Adetokunbo-f 3 ай бұрын
Oh please could you use a white cursor, so we can follow your movement easily. And also make the cursor bigger .😊
@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
great idea
@MrSubstance
@MrSubstance 3 ай бұрын
Maybe a silly question but why not just layer an 808 where the kicks from the breaks go? Sine wave seems to be triggering with the kicks of the break anyway - seems like a long winded way of doing things.
@DMS8410
@DMS8410 3 ай бұрын
They do even with real Tr-808 bd. Bob Power talk about it, during the Tribe's record. This is another way to do it
@MrSubstance
@MrSubstance 3 ай бұрын
@@DMS8410 Yeah I mean I used to do that back in 87 when I had an S950. This way seems way to convoluted lol.
@tigersteffi
@tigersteffi 3 ай бұрын
This method allows for more flexibility in my opinion, and obviously this is also a method that would have been used when editing with a DAW would have been much more limited. You can set it and forget it and keep tinkering with the main loop while never changing the sub bass underneath it, instead of having to work backwards and change and re edit the layer if you also wanted to adjust the loop.
@MrSubstance
@MrSubstance 3 ай бұрын
@@tigersteffi I get you on set-it and forget-it. But what I'm saying is back in the late 80s there were loads of tracks with 808s layered under kicks... maybe not every kick in the loop but definitely one at least. All one had to do was tune the 808 (or whatever 808 type sample they had) either from the drum machine itself or via the sampler if they changed the pitch of the main loop; simple tweak not really re-editing anything. Check BDPs 'Love's Gonna Get You' or any PE track from that era for examples.
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS 3 ай бұрын
So you made a sub bass by side chain of background noise hum to a drum beat?
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 3 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm missing something here. I understand, and have always split frequencies from breaks and blended them etc, but as for fattening up kicks, easy enough to just layer in say, 808 subs with the existing kicks no? What have I missed here lol
@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
If I was referring to how it can be done today, yes. This was a look back.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 3 ай бұрын
@@TonyBlackNYC Oh I apologise I meant no harm, I genuinely thought something might have gone over my head here :) Right I get it yeah. I like it, very inventive Btw I'm really appreciating these studio stories especially the hip hop stuff heh watch out man you gonna get pigeonholed :)
@Reggi_Sample
@Reggi_Sample 3 ай бұрын
For anyone who needs this: Harrison Drum Flow vst offers a noise gen for both kick and snare. Decaps Knock also works in a similar way. Not as much control as the plug-in used here though anyone know the name?
@TonyBlackNYC
@TonyBlackNYC 3 ай бұрын
there's probably about 20 ways to do a modern version of this, maybe I'll show a handful thx
@kennydust
@kennydust 3 ай бұрын
@@TonyBlackNYC Please do.
@Jak6_
@Jak6_ 3 ай бұрын
@@TonyBlackNYC Yes Please Do. This was awesome to watch. Very straight forward.
@chrisdavis9135
@chrisdavis9135 3 ай бұрын
👊🏿🔥💎
@particlejones
@particlejones 3 ай бұрын
Lmaoo tht was so boring, expecting something, never arrived
@НитинРаимаджий
@НитинРаимаджий 3 ай бұрын
What ? Didnt understand a single thing in this vid ...
This is some 90's hip hop time machine
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