A good example of something else wrong with our country . People are not held accountable for things like this . Murdering innocent children and no punishment at all . Taking their authority way too far .
@chrism.46004 жыл бұрын
Anytime the Gov does something wrong, ( in this case over reaching, and excessive use of power), there’s always an excuse or they blame someone for their actions. There was no reason for a warrant squad of 70 ATF agents to serve a warrant. The ATF wanted to record their raid to demonstrate their power and it backfired on them horribly. (No Pun Intended)
@Mathieuacc2 жыл бұрын
1. How was it overreaching? If the government is worrying about a militia or excessive amount of guns or if someone starts touching children, shouldn't they investigate? 2. With the amount of guns the lunatics had and the people inside, you can't show up to their door with a Dunkin donuts police car.
@chrism.46002 жыл бұрын
@@Mathieuacc Im not saying they shouldn’t of “arrested” thim, of course he should of been taken in to jail, However, the whole town knew he jogged every day, If they wanted him so bad, that would of been the perfect opportunity to arrest him. They over reached (in my opinion) What they came to take someone to jail, with a simple arrest warrant, with the DEA, and way too many agents, Why not send the local sheriff in, and keep everything quite, The gov did it that way, for a reason, To Flex Their Strength.
@QUEENofHEARTZ19736 ай бұрын
You right , I was there that day, not in compound but watching as it all went down with David koresh female family member ( either his mom or grandma) & ATF busted windows first, then tank caused fire, and 17 children that were in the building all made it out. Even some of their moms were all taken into gov. "Protective" Custody. And the gov. Could gad any one of them David included , in town like mechanic shop where my brother worked on their cars or auto parts store where my brother ordered their parts, or when the women and kids ALL went shopping as a huge group, and NOT once did they decide to round them up at all . Till this massive f up on the gov. Part. Trying to cover their own A* by saying " no shots were ever fired by ATF or black clothes Ninja's" says hostage negotiator in charge that day .... Wtf ... 😮😂 Videos prove that ATF at fault , go watch it, you see who made first contact and how a tank hit a gas line then boom fire 🔥 Koresh was crazy AF true, guilty as all hell on the under age teens, but the crazy MF didn't shoot first nor last in the first blast .. and here a little info some don't know, standing beside me that female family member got a call, said David was alive, got out thru the under ground tunnels that led to bus and supply, and 2 hours after it was over he was seen in his green army jacket,carrying a black bag full of guns and money, walking out a field, and picked up by old neighbor, and Koresh tried to pay him but he didn't accept, so in turn koresh said "wait 2 hours then call my momma tell her I'm alive". That's what I heard and she told me . Makes ya 🤔.... did he ?
@djsicizzum4 жыл бұрын
those people were murdered
@oven38504 жыл бұрын
No shit
@poggersplayer694 жыл бұрын
They killed themselves
@RedReaper3034 жыл бұрын
@@poggersplayer69 Ok. Let me see you try to get out of a burning building, especially when your means of egress is blocked off because the tanks rammed into the building to release CS gas.
@GospelOfTimothy3 жыл бұрын
So was David koresh's mother and she wasn't even in the compound
@karencarter8292 Жыл бұрын
@@RedReaper303 And razor sharp barbed wire wrapped all around the buildings and windows.
@fuzzing5194 жыл бұрын
That stupid UPS dude has blood on his hands. He instigated the entire thing. Inert dummy hand grenades sold at the gun shows as a novelty. I have one. I don't recall anyone tossing out a live hand grenade during the siege. During the shoot out you don't hear the distinctive report of a 50cal gun either. In fact the agents in the front are shooting upwards to the 2nd story window. Isn't that trajectory in line with the agents on the roof directly behind? The one thing that keeps me up at night is the voice of that child on the phone. Sounds like a 3 year old, right? "...No, we're not going to kill you." Replies the agent. Among the bodies that were shot to death in the bunker, which is actually a tornado shelter, is a 3 year old stabbed in the chest. Who stabs a 3 year old? Someone out for revenge?
@KingKatura4 жыл бұрын
Mysterious fire, Tanks, explosives, hole in the wall. I'm a u.s. army veteran and that to me sounds like it wasn't mysterious at all that a small group circled around the builds set a small breach charge and then through a explosive in their. That or a tank shot something that was flammable in it. But it doesn't seem that mysterious its curious how they try to say it is. But did it really back fire? idk as they are not receiving any back lash from it today, And everyone involved seems to have gotten away virtually unscathed no actions against anyone and they even charged various survivors for a random crime as too make it look like they were in the right. Truthfully i think they would have been better off just letting them go and saying they made a mistake as now it appears as it was all part of the plan and they just didn't give a fk. Thats what happens when you have laws that prevent intelligent people from surviving in various public offices especially when it comes to policing. But they already know that already its average or below intelligence in most cases on purpose so that they don't ask why they are doing something that they know is wrong. That part needs to change. Unfortunately the u.s. supreme court ruled that indeed it is constitutional for those jobs to make sure only un intelligent people are in them for national security reasons?
@healingrays32293 жыл бұрын
The same politicians are still in power.
@nedrutland32015 жыл бұрын
May bill Clinton, Janet Reno, Robert Mueller, and all those involved rot in hell
@TotsNater5 жыл бұрын
And don't forget Koresh. He was the lunatic.
@patrioticconstitutionalist7355 жыл бұрын
@@TotsNater crazy as it sounds to me or you to them it was a choice in religion, Koresh never claimed to be a god or the son of god but swore god spoke to him in which threw out the bible there are multiple individuals who god spoke to the rest thought was crazy to. I don't believe myself so it all sounds nutty but Koresh never once ever wrote down any of his interpretations of the bible till the siege I've glanced over what he wrote makes no sense to me cause idk the bible very well. But what they did have was constitutional rights which from the very start was infringed the feds knew this and knew after Ruby Ridge the people wouldn't stand for it so they tried to cover up as much as they could. The Davidians and Koresh was never charged with any felonies and the underage wives now I don't condone such but our federal government does with a law that 16 and 17 yr old girls can wed or have sexual relations with a male over 18 with consent now Texas law takes it down to 14 with conset but remember this was a weapons raid on a firearms dealer they owns a company called "the mag bag" had a shooting range on their property and bought and sold firearms at gunshows. Koresh being crazy doesn't justify burning or letting them burn alive. Go watch the 2 documentaries on my playlist it'll explain everything for ya.
@nidoruzi5 жыл бұрын
@@refinnej5302 lol imagine liking a cult leader... ok boomer (not you btw the other guy)
@juddy2194 жыл бұрын
X 2 australians graham cradle and clive doyle well done