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@SeanerCullen
@SeanerCullen Жыл бұрын
Great point about Feathers mocking Gromit with "How Much is That Doggy in the Window", It really adds more smugness and more personality to him
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Yes you can tell that's what they wanted to convey!
@gorgolyt
@gorgolyt Жыл бұрын
that's the joke
@AndrewHsieh96
@AndrewHsieh96 9 ай бұрын
After I read up about the song, I began to understand the context behind the choice of song. Poor Gromit.
@harry.t9523
@harry.t9523 3 ай бұрын
@@SomeBoiOnline I’m going to be honest, I actually like the replacement music more. I actually wonder if there are extended versions of those organ pieces.
@harry.t9523
@harry.t9523 3 ай бұрын
Also, he’ll be back for vengeance now. Who’s excited?
@moosegoose3159
@moosegoose3159 Жыл бұрын
As someone who owned the first VHS copies, I only found out about this whole “audio swap” when I bought a dvd release some years later and thought “I swear this song isn’t right”.
@nathancruz9172
@nathancruz9172 Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@sb9372_
@sb9372_ Жыл бұрын
I only found out about it now!
@qwertyrobbo101
@qwertyrobbo101 Жыл бұрын
Same here, I though I was going mad!
@mindstorm95
@mindstorm95 Жыл бұрын
The same! I grew up with the BBC VHS
@GLEclipseGaming
@GLEclipseGaming Жыл бұрын
Yep same for me. My GF is younger than me so she only knew the re-release version so she thought I was mad lol.
@tech34756
@tech34756 Жыл бұрын
From what I’ve heard/understand, the BBC can air the original version without having to worry about copyright due to a blanket license agreement with the music industry.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
It's quite possible that's the case, it's just hard to find any solid information online.
@MarkPentler
@MarkPentler Жыл бұрын
this is indeed the case
@minixtvbox
@minixtvbox Жыл бұрын
Not on commercial release via BBC worldwide
@tech34756
@tech34756 Жыл бұрын
@@minixtvbox Should have been clear, my post only applies to domestic BBC broadcasts, not sure about the iPlayer.
@Isanion
@Isanion Жыл бұрын
This would explain why I've never heard the modified versions. The original 1993 audio is all I've ever known.
@BradTheThird
@BradTheThird Жыл бұрын
I find it amazing how culturally revered Wallace and Gromit is despite only having 4 episodes and a film to it's name over the course of 19 years (34 since A Grand Day Out was released).
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Indeed, a good example of quality over quantity!
@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden
@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden Жыл бұрын
Well there was a 10 episode mini series called Wallace and Gromit’s Cracking Contraptions that came out in 2002, each episode would last 1 to 3 minutes.
@bigbigarchive
@bigbigarchive Ай бұрын
The short films are less episodes and more instalments
@ShyGuyXXL
@ShyGuyXXL Жыл бұрын
"How much is that doggie in the window" is even more heartbreaking when you imagine this might be exactly how Wallace first met Gromit. Gromit being a little puppy in a pet shop, Wallace coming in and adopting him. And then imagine being Gromit, hearing that song when you're already in a vulnerable position. And then it turns out you suffered for nothing. Poor Gromit. No wonder he ran away. 😭
@ClarenceFlanagan
@ClarenceFlanagan Жыл бұрын
I had no idea about this. The version I remember as a child in the UK included ‘How much is that doggy in the window’. I didn’t even know it had changed!
@CDbiggen
@CDbiggen Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@CurlyChop
@CurlyChop Жыл бұрын
yeah i remember having the first dvd, "the first 3 adventures" and the VHS and even when i re-watched it recently i watched a VHS rip from DailyMotion so I never heard the alternative music. I hope the remake does come though!
@parkerproductions4546
@parkerproductions4546 Жыл бұрын
I knew it wasn't just me haha! I have the original 1993 version on VHS. Always confused me why they changed it on the DVD releases. Now we know why! Also, quite happy to know the names of the music used in the original (barring How Much Is That Doggy) and didn't even realised Wallace was humming the tune in the original! Just shows how much it gives a different feel to the overall story.
@SteveAdmienn
@SteveAdmienn Жыл бұрын
Changes on DVD releases? I have the original tunes on DVD, I'll try to find it and see if it still works.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
There seems to be an initial DVD release that maintained the original, but the majority of releases after that have the updated version.
@HortonJ1929
@HortonJ1929 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing a theory that “Tie A Yellow Ribbon” was used to foreshadow Feathers as a criminal because the song is about a criminal being released from prison. Love your Videos by the way.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes that's right. I think the original story was about a solider returning from war, but in the song it was changed to an ex-convict returning home. Could very well be in reference to Feathers moving in...
@PixelsLtd
@PixelsLtd Жыл бұрын
​@@SomeBoiOnline I've lived my whole life thinking it was literally about a criminal in prison, because he says "i've done my time" and says "put the blame on me" if she has moved on. I was confused when I saw you mention it was about returning from war, because why would his partner blame him for being conscripted, and refer to being "still in prison" without her. It makes no sense. But I looked it up and after reading a few references cited on wikipedia I found the following: "it was about a soldier coming home from Andersonville Prison in the Civil War and he was going to Pennsylvania. He told his girl in a letter, "I'll understand if I should stay on the stagecoach. But if I shouldn't, tie a big yellow handkerchief on the big oak tree outside of town. And then I'll know if it's there, I should get off, but I'll understand that you found someone else in the last three years." He couldn't bear to look at it himself. So he told the other people in the stagecoach and the driver to please look. … When they got to the big oak tree, everybody yelled and screamed. He looked out the window, and it was covered with yellow handkerchiefs. A chill went up my neck. I said, "My God!" … I said, "Boy, that would make a great song."" So yeah, he was in prison, but not for commiting a crime, he was a P.O.W. And maybe "put the blame on me" is becasue it was the American Civil War which was very politically charegd with disagreements about slavery and such, so perhaps he thought that in the years gone, his partner may have disagreed with the motices of whicever side he took. Despite the implications by which prison he was in, I think its safer we don't speculate on which politcial side he was fighting! Anyway, great video as always.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes it was very interesting looking into the history and evolution of the story behind the song.
@davidthedeaf
@davidthedeaf Жыл бұрын
It was a song that came out after the Vietnam War and the radio folks said it was about a man coming home and finding a hundred yellow ribbons around the old oak tree. Never heard a thing about “prison.” I do not believe anything off the internet though. “History” seems to keep being changeable.
@PixelsLtd
@PixelsLtd Жыл бұрын
@@davidthedeaf The lyrics literally say "I'm really still in prison, and your love it holds the key, a simple yellow ribbon's what I need to set me free". Couple that with "I'm coming home, I've done my time" and this is why many assume he was in literal prison. There's no lyrics in there about war directly, So for those of us who weren't alive to hear it in context and hear the writers/ artist talking about it, Its a fair assumption to make, as there's no way we would have guessed that intended meaning.
@cal5365
@cal5365 Жыл бұрын
literally never even heard of this royalty free version, all the copies I own are entirely the original with the music
@Laserashton
@Laserashton 8 ай бұрын
I actually OWN this copy. My mom loved the duo while in college, and she gave the original 1993 VHS of Wrong Trousers to my grandparent's. When we went to Florida last July, I got permission from my grandpa to bring the tape back to my home in Rhode Island!
@Luckyrabbit1927
@Luckyrabbit1927 Жыл бұрын
Still have my VHS copy with the original audio intact. It previously belonged to my mother who purchased it during the '94 release back before I was born. Still grew up with it though. While I no longer have a player for it these days, I'm very grateful to have kept it after all these years.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Wow, great that you've held onto it!
@tidmouthmilk12
@tidmouthmilk12 Жыл бұрын
You unlocked a memory with 'how much is that doggy in the window' I never even noticed that got changed until you played the two scenes back to back. I'll have to see if we've still got our old VHS tapes somewhere and rewatch the original version now!
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
That's amazing, glad to hear it!
@A.MNeverP.M
@A.MNeverP.M Жыл бұрын
It's quite strange, in the UK at least my TV recording has that song still in? It's recorded on the Sky channel, i should film it to compare at some point...
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
I know there's been a few times the original has aired since the changes, but it's unclear when the most recent broadcast was.
@A.MNeverP.M
@A.MNeverP.M Жыл бұрын
​@@SomeBoiOnlineInteresting, keep up with the awesome uploads! Love hearing about obscure film and tv history:)
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you're enjoying them!
@Atomixalmon
@Atomixalmon Жыл бұрын
I watched The Wrong Trousers recorded on VHS a ludicrous amount of time during my childhood. Although it was the French version, I *clearly* remember all the organ tracks, which means it was the original release. I may still have those VHS stored somewhere in my parents' house.
@WallaceAndGromit._.FanPage
@WallaceAndGromit._.FanPage Жыл бұрын
About the audio of Gromit's letter, the original sound was also placed in Wallace and Gromit in the Brazilian version. This makes it possible to see the difference between the original sound and the sound published by Aardman Animations.
@DoCaMakesArt
@DoCaMakesArt 9 ай бұрын
I was about to comment the exact same about the French version. Every other change was applied just as described in the video, but the happy birthday song STILL plays when he opens the letter.
@TheRogueDM
@TheRogueDM Жыл бұрын
I have a terrible working memory but I remember the original hammond organ tunes very well, especially How Much is that Doggy in the Window?. It really threw me when I watched Wrong Trousers again and everything had changed, including the happy birthday tune. And I'm really surprised just how much it changed the movie for me.
@danielwest9955
@danielwest9955 Жыл бұрын
Turns out we must’ve rented the VHS. Because the “how much is that dog in the window” scene has been playing in my mind for decades, and I haven’t seen TWT in years 😂
@spencerkim5483
@spencerkim5483 Жыл бұрын
I knew the music sounded unfamiliar from when I was a kid. I had a tape version of this short when I was a kid. I knew I wasn’t crazy when I heard unfamiliar stuff. Thank you for clearing it!
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad to hear that!
@HeroUnibr0
@HeroUnibr0 Жыл бұрын
I significantly remember hearing the original soundtrack in my childhood, however that was in the late 00's so it must've been an accidental repeat. I'll have to go check if I still have the recording of this.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
It's funny because I can similarly remember hearing the original, despite the DVD copy I had being the new version. Though I'm quite certain I had the VHS tapes earlier on.
@HeroUnibr0
@HeroUnibr0 Жыл бұрын
I have checked this now, and can confirm it was the original. It was aired 30/12/2008 on BBC One at 4:30 pm. This must've been one of the accidental airings of this version.
@DanielMullins-c4s1
@DanielMullins-c4s1 Жыл бұрын
@@HeroUnibr0 GOLD also aired the original version during Easter 2009. I did have it recorded at the time but I no longer have it. My friend has a DVD recording from 1st January 2006 which also has the original soundtrack.
@garytilford6503
@garytilford6503 Жыл бұрын
I am very fortunate to have a fairly decent home dvd recording of the original version broadcast in 2003 on the beeb.
@NicoAnimation
@NicoAnimation Жыл бұрын
I was in 3rd grade when The Wrong Trousers came out and the first time I ever saw it was in class when our teacher played a VHS tape for us. Obviously I was blown away by it, and then I owned it on video tape for many years before DVD/blu came out. I specifically remember all these songs playing, and was really weirded out as an adult when the blu rays came out and these music examples were all different!
@ezrato
@ezrato 3 ай бұрын
I'd totally forgotten about "How Much is that Doggy in the Window", but now that you mention it, I definitely remember that playing on the original VHS. Hadn't even occurred to me that it had changed.
@cinemint
@cinemint Жыл бұрын
I only ever watched the original VHS release with the first soundtrack, so I wasn't even aware there was a second soundtrack! It sounds surreal to hear anything besides Happy Birthday in that card.
@roperross259
@roperross259 Жыл бұрын
Great video! What a shame the copyright robots censor such art from being shared :(
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Indeed, hopefully an official release may surface someday.
@eyitsmattyyy616
@eyitsmattyyy616 Жыл бұрын
Doggy In the Window is an absolutely genius way of showing how Feathers doesn’t give a damn
@zoshbarton8706
@zoshbarton8706 Жыл бұрын
So glad I'm not the only person who remembers "Happy Birthday" being played when Gromit opens the card instead of "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow". I don't remember the other tunes that were removed, but that's probably because I was a very small child when watching The Wrong Trousers and there aren't many tunes as iconic in childhood memories as "Happy Birthday". Such that I recall the WTF moment when I saw the official release versions because the audio when the card was opened had changed. I asked my Dad if he noticed the change years later, but he said it’d always been “For he’s a Jolly Good Fellow”. Sorry for the rambling, I get very passionate about this film.
@WreckItRolfe
@WreckItRolfe Жыл бұрын
Edit: Just found a copy with the original music on IA, labelled as Restored - uploaded just days after this video. (Though only an MP4) Glad someone is highlighting this. I had only ever watched The Wrong Trousers on TV and probably on a recorded VHS, but got the DVD version some years ago. When I got to the part where 'Doggy in the Window' is supposed to play I was very confused/upset: the original had the perfect song shut off at the perfect time. I've not watched it since.
@eddiehimself
@eddiehimself Жыл бұрын
I used to watch the VHS version all the time as a kid. The Hammond renditions of Tie a Yellow Ribbon and How Much is that Doggy in the Window are very much stuck in my mind from then, and it was amusing to hear Feathers McGraw playing the latter tune while Gromit was stuck in the kennel outside.
@lewisspring35
@lewisspring35 4 ай бұрын
I KNEW SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT. I used to have a cassette tape of all three films narrated by Wallace's VA in character, and it had audio samples from the original version.
@danielprotaganist7551
@danielprotaganist7551 Жыл бұрын
Never really realized it before but...the music made the film in a lot of ways. I remember watching this as a toddler (figure around 96-97) on VHS and something about the music was so off-putting...it created this emotional sense of how Gromit felt every time I heard it. So much was said without actually being said and the music plays a huge role in that.
@kierraneldridge8300
@kierraneldridge8300 Жыл бұрын
Omg I thought I was mad when I rewatched these years later, especially the birthday card!
@sirusbones
@sirusbones 3 ай бұрын
I knew I wasn't crazy! I watched the Wallace and Gromit shorts on Cartoon Network as a kid, and remembering hearing these tunes. When I bought the DVD, many years later, I knew they sounded off, but couldn't figure out what had happened.
@MacGuy3135
@MacGuy3135 Жыл бұрын
I have had both versions so the one that I remember is an amalgamation of "For he's a jolly good fellow" on the card but "Happy talk" and "How much is that doggy in the window" at night.
@Person-wz6iy
@Person-wz6iy Жыл бұрын
Wallace and Gromit in the Conundrum of Copyrighted Music.
@garynzilla
@garynzilla Жыл бұрын
I wish I still had the old VHS tape I watched so many times of The Wrong Trousers recorded on that fateful day in 1993. It’s so ingrained in my memory that I just cannot accept the subsequent releases that replaced those original tracks. Although, the tape did originally have 10 seconds where my dad switched over to a football game during the diamond heist which did break the tension a little.
@WallaceAndGromit._.FanPage
@WallaceAndGromit._.FanPage Жыл бұрын
And about the other W&G movies, it is possible to see the deleted scenes having totally different soundtracks from the original scenes.
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Жыл бұрын
Feathers: (plays music) Whoa... you destroyed that dog without even touching him!
@clark82
@clark82 7 ай бұрын
Grew up with VHS, and I recorded it on Dave a few years ago….. so I knew the original. On BBC iplayer they used the dubbed, and to say it’s jarring is putting it very lightly
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins Жыл бұрын
To This Day, I am still finding *even though My Grandmother recorded it, and I don't have VHS anymore and it did have it* and failing to find it, I still loved that Version!!! Also to that Grandmother, who Introduced me and my Family to Wallace and Gromit *Even Though You aren't Alive* Happy 99th Birthday, I still love W&G and Everything Aardman, thanks to you!!!
@SomeInterestingName
@SomeInterestingName Жыл бұрын
This was so jarring when I watched it at Christmas on the BBC within the last few years. Wallace and Gromit films are known off by heart for most of us, so the swap in music sticks out terribly.
@JordCorp
@JordCorp Жыл бұрын
I thought I was completely misremembering film's soundtrack re-watching the film with some American friends, I brought up how I distinctly remembered my grandmother singing along to How much is that doggy in the window. Glad to know I wasn't crazy after all! Edit: Christmas 2007 would've been right around the time we were watching, I recall I was extremely young and spent a lot of my time at my grandparent's house.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's brilliant to hear!
@philipdalton2144
@philipdalton2144 Жыл бұрын
I thought I was going mad! I remember the original tunes on a version we recorded on video cassette from back in the day - always thought the music sounded different when rewatching all these years later.
@maikybravo6108
@maikybravo6108 10 ай бұрын
What the...?! You just unlocked a memory of my childhood! I was one of the few that actually saw the original version! 😮
@TeAXIIIT13
@TeAXIIIT13 Жыл бұрын
This is very strange, im sure every time ive watched wrong trousers ive heard “how much is that doggy in the window” im gonna have to rewatch it again now
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified Жыл бұрын
I still have the trio VHS set, and had no idea the songs had been changed from that original soundtrack! Interesting! Those original songs are so iconic to the soundtrack that when I hear them, I immediately think of The Wrong Trousers. Well, aside from the birthday one, at least. I could've sworn I've seen The Wrong Trousers more recently than the last time I watched ANYTHING on VHS, yet I don't recall hearing the wrong songs. Weird!
@RRSlugger
@RRSlugger Жыл бұрын
Fancy running into you here! 😉 I also grew up on the VHS releases and had no idea modern versions have since changed these songs!
@CarsSimplified
@CarsSimplified Жыл бұрын
Well hey, small... Algorithm? Haha Fancy seeing you here as well!
@Dirpitz
@Dirpitz Жыл бұрын
Damn I suddenly remember I had a Wallace and Gromit alarm clock that had the slippers, breakfast, newspaper, walkies board on it
@ToxicTurquoise454
@ToxicTurquoise454 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see other people noticed. I used to love that original music during the lonely Gromit sequence, it sounded so hauntingly beautiful and I was SO annoyed when it got replaced on the DVD version. I didn't know it was because of copyright, until now I thought it was a George Lucas thing where they went back and changed because they just liked the new songs better. Like a "oh look we made new songs, it's REMASTERED and BETTER isn't it" thing (don't get me started on the awful Lion King DVD changes!)
@StanBlankPlushelodeon
@StanBlankPlushelodeon Жыл бұрын
I wish Julian Nott’s original score for all the Wallace and Gromit shorts would be released officially. The only score to be released officially is The Curse Of The Were-Rabbit. The only way to listen to the scores for the shorts is to rip them using the 5.1 audio releases. (and one promo CD Julian Nott made with some tracks from A Close Shave and the incomplete Train Chase music from The Wrong Trousers) I’d love to see a video discussing the original music scores. On another interesting note, the organ version of Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round The Ole Oak Tree used in The Wrong Trousers was not made specifically for the film. It is a stock track, and it’s actually available in full as part of a compilation CD of Ballpark Organ tracks released in 2016. While some tracks included are not the same organ, there are some that are. Songs like We Are Young and Hello Dolly are played by the same organ, so they were possibly made in the same recording session. Sadly the rest of the tracks from both the original and redone versions of The Wrong Trousers are not on that CD to my knowledge.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Yes I'd very much like to talk about the unreleased scores of the films at some point. Fascinating stuff regarding the organ tracks!
@TheDylandProductions
@TheDylandProductions Жыл бұрын
I've heard several people say the Ballpark Organ recording is the same as one of the (2?) version(s) in Wrong Trousers. But they don't sound the same to me. The original(s) sound like an EP, while that upload & CD are a synthesized organ. They sound different, are played at different speeds - different keys, etc. Sad, too, because I LOVE the rendition in Wrong Trousers of that tune. But I can't seem to find the original version. I also assume they used stock EP instrumental covers, but maybe they didn't. Sad that they got replaced on later DVD releases!
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector Жыл бұрын
Music rights in film and TV can be aggrevating to no end. I recently re-watched the sitcom Scrubs on Disney+ and was sad to find out that a lot of the licensed music in the earlier seasons had to be replaced. The reason being that the licensing agreements, way the time, did not account for online streaming. Worse is that some of the replacements are truly horrendous and completely wreck the feeling of different scenes as Scrubs was very deliberate and effective with its music choices.
@twitchswitchvideos
@twitchswitchvideos Жыл бұрын
I watched this over and over as a kid on VHS. I rewatch it today and its a bit jarring when the songs are different.
@TrevortheTrainFan
@TrevortheTrainFan Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the original version when it aired on Cartoon Network’s Cartoon Theater. In fact, my dad recorded it on VHS 📼 for me when I was little.
@jimbobur
@jimbobur Жыл бұрын
Watching the altered release on TV felt like someone had erased a childhood memory. Copyright law is a broken mess, exploited by publishing companies to squeeze out every penny of profit they can.
@DREADFALCON13
@DREADFALCON13 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a VHS that had all three films recorded on BBC 2 in 1995, so it was in reverse order. I was only 1 by then...
@kingofthesnakes2396
@kingofthesnakes2396 Жыл бұрын
This kind of reminds me of original Only Fools and Horses episodes. Many of the episodes that are released on physical media/broadcast on tv either have background music replaced or scenes removed for copyright reasons.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Wow, wasn't aware of that. A shame as I've watched them all from the collection boxset, so most likely with the edited scenes.
@kingofthesnakes2396
@kingofthesnakes2396 Жыл бұрын
​@SomeBoiOnline Royal flush has basically been cut in half. John sullivan wasn't happy with the episode so they edited it but they also took out some jokes that really made the episode better. They finally released the original version on bluray a fee years ago but the other episodes are still missing original scenes
@ASmithsFunEntertainment
@ASmithsFunEntertainment Жыл бұрын
I've watched the original version of The Wrong Trousers on BBC back on New Year's Eve 2009 along with the original version of A Close Shave on December 30th the same year.
@ASmithsFunEntertainment
@ASmithsFunEntertainment 8 ай бұрын
At the time when I watched The Wrong Trousers was when after Madagascar was on and A Close Shave was on after Mary Poppins.
@adrianoropeza8558
@adrianoropeza8558 Жыл бұрын
I rewatched the original version of the latin american spanish version of The Wrong Trousers just to be sure bc i clearly remembered the Happy Birthday song playing and turns out theres at least another version of the soundtrack that contains the Happy Birthday song, but replaces the other ones with royalty free music.
@lofiworkshop
@lofiworkshop Жыл бұрын
I've got the old VHS 3-pack and didn't realize they ever changed it. This was really interesting.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@DavidBTwamley
@DavidBTwamley Жыл бұрын
I have the original version of The Wrong Trousers recorded on a VHS tape back when it aired on BBC One in March 2005. This was the first time I watched the short, along with a Grand Day Out which was broadcast immediately before (I watched A Close Shave when we had it on the VHS release). Even though I now have the first 3 shorts on DVD, I should definitely hold onto the tape so I can hear the removed songs for myself.
@digitaldeathsquid3448
@digitaldeathsquid3448 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's only ever watched the VHS releases, I never knew about this. I'm not surprised in the slightest that WB are being incredibly stingy over this
@Dave5400
@Dave5400 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, music copyright is a complete disaster area. The great thing about being into classical music is that because most of the music was written so long ago, it's all in the public domain with very few arguments. That being said, you can find anything online if you look hard enough.
@EnterXcaliborg
@EnterXcaliborg 5 ай бұрын
I live in Australia and had the original VHS version with these songs, I was so confused when I heard the Netflix version had so many songs changed. This clarifies that I'm not crazy!
@KnapfordMaster98
@KnapfordMaster98 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with the VHS of this, it was actually the only film I had for a while until eventually getting the other two. The first time I heard the alternate version was in class during second grade I think, when I noticed the birthday card music was different. Not so much for the tune itself, but because the timbre of the sound was different. I’m not entirely sure if I’ve ever actually watched the films in their entirety on anything other than the original VHS.
@JamesDavy2009
@JamesDavy2009 Жыл бұрын
Gromit's card played in chiptune originally, but in the "new" version it was glockenspiel music.
@bigbangbot-SuperSqank
@bigbangbot-SuperSqank Жыл бұрын
Me in 2063 rushing to buy The Wrong Trousers on 16K so I can finally watch the movie with “That Doggy in the Window” in high definition:
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@domingos8214
@domingos8214 4 ай бұрын
6:30 another point of using that song is that the lirics talk about a convict going back home, so it may be used as well as a foreshadow element
@christopherburns7373
@christopherburns7373 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank god I own the original VHS copy of those films.
@Gubalicious
@Gubalicious Жыл бұрын
I used to have it on VHS taped off the telly. Used to watch it over and over again. It had all that music on. That tape is likely long gone now ☹️ I can hear the medley as it changes from one tune to another while gromit is trying to get to sleep. One of the tunes is happy talk
@KPen3750
@KPen3750 Жыл бұрын
Its fantastic how I watched this a while back and never noticed this, until this video. Then the VHS tape we had of this came back to me and the original songs felt so much more familiar to me compared to the newer versions. thank you for this nostalgic reminder!
@stevenandrews1012
@stevenandrews1012 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info. I had assumed the difference was for the UK market. I infered that the songs on my VHS tape were for the US market and the subsequent releases were the original. I assumed that the songs were familiar to Britains which we in the States would not have known so they added songs we recognize..Glad to know the truth now..
@DoctorSpudhead
@DoctorSpudhead Жыл бұрын
Had the VHS as a kid, always made me laugh with the shot of Gromit rocking up to Feathers door and knocking hard (It was the close up that got us) mixed with the Happy Time tune. When I watched it on Netflix a few years ago, it had the new soundtrack and I was very upset they had replaced the sound to my favourite shot. Glad to know what happened, can only hope its reintroduced one day (I still have the VHS in the loft I believe).
@andrewcorner2971
@andrewcorner2971 Жыл бұрын
Glad I still have my VHS tapes of the original trilogy.
@lachlanwilliams5818
@lachlanwilliams5818 11 ай бұрын
This makes me very glad my parents taped the wrong trouser on VHS when it was broadcast on the ABC here in Australia.
@MichaelEdwardsVA
@MichaelEdwardsVA Жыл бұрын
I actually had one of the early compilation DVD's that was released in the late 90s that had all the original music still intact, so it was really jarring getting a newer compilation DVD set several years back and hearing a majority of the music sound wrong.
@Hiznogood
@Hiznogood Жыл бұрын
Same here! Never new they changed that until I saw this video!
@Trek001
@Trek001 Жыл бұрын
I do actually remember the original version being broadcast on BBC1 at Christmas time a few years ago - my brother who was doing Media Studies at uni at the time said "Oh, they must have paid the fees" I do remember, though, first hearing the royalty free version and thinking "That ain't right... Wheres the tunes?"
@LiterallyMark1
@LiterallyMark1 Жыл бұрын
I specifically remember tie a yellow ribbon on the video tape player
@TheBoyMechanic
@TheBoyMechanic Жыл бұрын
I saw this first at "Spike and Mike's Festival of Animation" in a theatre back in the early 90's.
@nexviper
@nexviper Жыл бұрын
Having not seen it since the 90s I had no idea these changes had been made. Always a shame when rights issues or simply money gets in the way of wide spread access to the original piece.
@mattb6522
@mattb6522 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I actually didn't know this about the film, but it makes sense. It has been ages since I last saw the film, but watched it as a child on VHS. I definitely remember the "Happy Birthday" song with the card, so I assume the other songs were the originals, too (though, I honestly don't remember). It would be great to see the film again in its original intended format. Licensing seems to be one of those sticky situation for a lot of TV show/movie re-releases.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Definitely, it would be nice to see happen sometime.
@channelwarrior861
@channelwarrior861 Жыл бұрын
The best way to watch The Wrong Trousers with original audio I recommend getting the original 1994 UK VHS.
@ParallelSyntax
@ParallelSyntax Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I have the original DVD release.
@JS97278
@JS97278 Жыл бұрын
It’s always a brighter day when we get one of your Wallace and Gromit uploads, honestly you are without a shadow of a doubt my favourite KZbinr you cover everything I grew up with 😅
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, amazing to hear that! 😊
@kieranleppington9152
@kieranleppington9152 Жыл бұрын
I don't think WB had anything to do with the changes because the replaced soundtrack was already on the 2000 BBC DVD. Also I'm pretty sure GOLD's ONLY version was the 1993 original (and in HD) until a few years ago. Thanks for spreading the word about something so obscure!
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks, it was hard to verify each broadcast and release without somehow watching them all, so a lot of the research was based off the statements of others online.
@kieranleppington9152
@kieranleppington9152 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I can imagine this stuff being a pain to research when personal recollections are all we have to go by.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@inspector2363
@inspector2363 Жыл бұрын
Had to dig out my DVD-R off air copy from a 2009/10 BBC broadcast & all the original music is present. The Beeb must still have an unaltered audio master they can dub to a HD version if they haven't yet.
@sampitcher
@sampitcher Жыл бұрын
I wish I’d never discovered this video as a recovering hoarder who threw away a load of VHS tapes 😭
@nick8231
@nick8231 Жыл бұрын
Luckily for me I grown up on the original release on a VHS recording
@GrassThief
@GrassThief Жыл бұрын
This is like being told Greedo shot first, I had no idea all these changes were made. I somehow must have never seen any of the films again after their initial VHS release in any shape or form over 20+ years, including never seeing reruns on TV.
@KillerCaitie
@KillerCaitie Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the Wallace and Gromit shorts on YTV in the 90s, so they would have still had their original scores. I most certainly remember that Birthday Card tune too, that brought me back.
@abrr2000
@abrr2000 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a recording of the original broadcast version... It survived right up till we got rid of the VHS player.
@MrYumpherdinker
@MrYumpherdinker Жыл бұрын
I’ve grown up with the second version of The Wrong Trousers, and I had no idea that there was another version until you released this video. I decided to buy the original VHS of the wrong trousers to see the how it was originally aired and in all honesty, I think that the original soundtrack is better. Whilst I’ll always have huge amounts of nostalgia for the second version of the wrong trousers, the original soundtrack works much better, and even links with the plot, with the scene of Feathers McGraw is mocking Gromit with “How much is that doggie in the window”. This was a really interesting and entertaining video, keep up the great work
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, glad to hear you got the original VHS release because of it!
@m00nd95
@m00nd95 Жыл бұрын
I watched the wrong trousers on vhs religiously when I was a kid, I remember noticing that the music changed when i saw it on dvd only a few years later
@thetwistedsamurai
@thetwistedsamurai Жыл бұрын
That scene with Gromit sitting alone in bed really resonated with me as a kid for whatever reason. The organ music was so cozy, even if I didn’t recognize the song itself. Very cool to know that scene is WAY deeper than what I got to know. It MUST have been before the change because I remember all the early versions. My mom had taped a special on TV where they played all the original Wallace specials… Including the original Moon one.
@thetwistedsamurai
@thetwistedsamurai Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that means my VHS is technically rare now. I need to find it and upload it if I can…
@oliverlee-os6tr
@oliverlee-os6tr 5 ай бұрын
although I was aware of the Happy birthday omission I knew nothing of the two other tunes until I saw a video someone had made of the 1994 release, bearing in mind that the film is supposed to be set in the 1950s when these songs where written it seems almost criminal that someone decided to remove them without making an official statement. I strongly suspect that the BBC couldn't be bothered with paying another licensing so they probably found some music in their library that loosely matched the music we hear in the original version.
@SamLowryDZ-015
@SamLowryDZ-015 Жыл бұрын
It's all down to what you negotiated when the programme was made. The BBC relied on it's limited blanket agreement of broadcast plus repeats. ITV tended to buy perpetual licences. Which is why we have always been able to hear the Beatles in the last episode of the Prisoner - but they have been removed from Dr Who -Evil of the Daleks It would appear the problem only came to light when VHS sales peaked and many that slipped through were deleted and re-edited to remove content. The later releases of the Young Ones and the first DVD releases were similarly butchered. Luckily when they were remastered the cuts were restored so if it commercially viable then the original sound track could be restored.
@kronosaur417
@kronosaur417 Жыл бұрын
What a relief, I thought I was going crazy! I grew up watching this one on VHS, so when I bought it on digital, I was very disappointed with the changed audio, but couldn't get my hands on the old VHS to compare it.
@SavoxYt
@SavoxYt Жыл бұрын
Fortunately the "First Three Adventures" DVD is very easy to find.
@Shadow_Sprinbonnie
@Shadow_Sprinbonnie Жыл бұрын
I actually have the 3 cracking adventures DVD and I checked the communtary and you were right! The original audio for the songs were there, but I don't know fully if Wallace was humming "that little doggy in the window" because the commentary in that scene was quite loud and I couldn't hear wallace humming anything.
@HenFilmStudio
@HenFilmStudio Жыл бұрын
The VHS version I have always prefered!
@ThePageofVoid
@ThePageofVoid Жыл бұрын
I had the original version of Wrong Trousers recorded from UKTV Gold on vhs. Hopefully still have it.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline Жыл бұрын
Very cool thing to have nowadays!
@AndrewHsieh96
@AndrewHsieh96 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your brilliant, comprehensive video! I first watched my favourite Wallace and Gromit short film on "The First Three Adventures" DVD at my cousins' house, back in Christmas 2000 (?), and I clearly remember hearing both "Happy Birthday" and "How Much is That Doggie in the Window"; especially when they gave me their old VHS tapes of both The Wrong Trousers and A Grand Day Out, months (?) later. Weirdly enough, I never noticed Wallace humming the latter song until you pointed it out! To be honest, after hearing the replaced tracks on the later DVD releases and TV broadcasts, I wondered for many years about why it all happened. But on the bright side, we should be thankful that the original VHS release still exists.
@SomeBoiOnline
@SomeBoiOnline 9 ай бұрын
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed!
@thethesaxman23
@thethesaxman23 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed this and was bothered by it. It’s really sad how copyright laws cause bits of pop culture to be lost to time.
@davidmarchant9386
@davidmarchant9386 Жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember watching the original version it did kind of kill nostalgia but wallace n gromit will always be a timeless classic
@chubbyhubby2065
@chubbyhubby2065 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! My parents bought the original VHS! I never knew that version was lost media...
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