MrBeast Has Some Terrible Friends...

Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be Ava Kris Tyson from the MrBeast group and the controversy she’s involved herself in that's taken our platform by storm. Today we deep dive into this creators strange relationship to one of the most controversial figures on the Internet and how they've become one of the greatest hypocrites I've ever been in contact with on this journey of mine. Thanks for watching!
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[@dogbackwards7658]

"*Not messaging minors online is the easiest part of my job" -Mutahar of Someordinarygamers

[@DefaultProphet]

I absolutely guarantee Mutahar has messaged minors or been in a discord with minors.

[@dogbackwards7658]

​​​@@DefaultProphet Yeah i'm 25, you could be underage for all I know. I could be messaging a minor rn with you. Idk. Gotta be clear with those implications. We talkin about *that way of messaging minors.

[@DefaultProphet]

@@dogbackwards7658 the Dr disrespect way that isn’t in this video?

[@dogbackwards7658]

​@@DefaultProphetwell can't wait for that guaranteed proof then

[@gairisiuil]

​@@dogbackwards7658 who knows, maybe they're a prophet :thinking: (i am kidding obviously)

[@TnT_F0X]

PSA: If you are criticizing a Trans person for breaking the law or doing unethical acts... it isn't Transphobia, it's accountability.

[@Diego42111]

The only issue is that it gives people excuse to be transphobic and at no level I defend anything that Kris did cuz it's yucky but there are people generalizing all trans people as being predators too, which is also yucky to generalize like that to people to dehumanize trans people

[@LaVaZ000]

@@Diego42111 Yapmaster 9000

[@Scazoid]

​@@LaVaZ000No he makes a point

[@hollandemerson7489]

I agree until people use her identity as a means of WHY she did it. And then people think because she is shitty person that it’s okay to misgender trans people

[@enderminion9639]

The problem is when people extrapolate to hating all trans people because of the actions of one. If you're a transgender public figure you basically have to be a saint and that's not fair to the rest of us

[@sankyu3950]

Dr disrespect new wife

[@l1meleak]

he likes gock so it wouldn't be a problem to him 💀

[@knockbitzhd]

made me spill my water lmao

[@monsesh1316]

BOOM!

[@SamwiseLovesJesus]

You mean husband?

[@ImSayyD]

​@@SamwiseLovesJesus nah that's a common misconception actually, trans women are women and the word for a woman spouse is wife EDIT: If you have anything to say to that please do so with arguments. And don't say something you've heard from some far right influencer, I can counter literally all of their points.

[@RolyPoly04]

At this rate, its gonna be easier to list the KZbinrs who aren't predators...

[@Mouthwashh]

Because it’s natural. We didn’t evolve with the desire to reproduce with old lady’s.

[@alegomanYTPs]

the one you're commenting on now could be in several years, who fucking knows lmao

[@RolyPoly04]

@@alegomanYTPs Indeed

[@kiyokumabear]

Shit, that was my thought growing up with all the creepy ass dudes everywhere... Except, more about people in general than KZbinrs specifically.

[@A1day1pz]

@@alegomanYTPs

[@VeryScarySmile]

It's a bad year to be a minor

[@markoz673bajen8]

B miner

[@ramonespinoza1374]

Dude said, “this year” 💀

[@hirotakasugi4891]

Except Anakin wasn’t the cause this time. The diddlers are coming.

[@UrianErreErre]

Not only this year

[@Greenranger123]

i would say the seth putnam song but id probs get banned 😂

[@starke4842]

Why cant youtubers just have romantic relationships with adults bro

[@soroushkowsarian3364]

Probably the powe imbalance ? I'm guessing since they at some point reach a high point online above a lot of creators and people, they try to do it irl ? Idk shts messed up

[@Officerdown76]

I mean pewdiepie did it so it’s definitely possible. But some people let power get to their heads and think they are untouchable.

[@userunknown4331]

@@gzuskreist1021 not really

[@FreakyTomWidwardYT]

Because they’re main audience is children and that’s who they learn to appeal to

[@downwardtumble4451]

@@gzuskreist1021istg they love talking to prepubescent/teenage boys

[@KatapaTV]

Someone said From 'Kris Tyson to Chris Hansen'

[@VinnsForever]

HELPPP😭💀 I can’t, that’s so fucking funny lowkey😭🙏

[@KayFiOS]

Kris isn't catching predators though... She *is* the predator!

[@T_oasty]

Brother, that doesn’t even make sense 😭

[@Astrochorius]

LMAOOOOOO

[@VentrexTheXVth]

Chris*

[@4RILDIGITAL]

Inappropriate behavior, especially towards minors, is utterly inexcusable. Everyone, regardless of their popularity or influence, should be held accountable for their actions.

[@Yatukih_001]

I wrote a letter and it was a fantasy one based on sexual fantasy and when I was told it was inappropriate - time to apologise. None of the fantasies described were put into any action. This was shortly after my transition from teenagehood to full adulthood was complete.

[@griggorirasputin6555]

I don't like the vaugeness that has been enforced nowadays "inappropriate behavior" is anything from failling to turn off the dirty jokes in a work environment where a minor had recently joined, and raping people, those are not the same and they should not be treated the same.

[@zwenkwiel816]

what you talking about? Inappropriate behavior is the best! it's the kids part that's messed up here....

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@griggorirasputin6555 yeah obviously sending noods to kids is a big no no but just "inappropriate behavior" in general?! that kind of morality policing is dangerous....

[@griggorirasputin6555]

@@zwenkwiel816 Nobody sent noods to kids tho

[@0aeaquerda]

the McCurdy bit is like saying "i do not condone violence" and proceeding to imediately punch someone

[@deeznewts4186]

More like, “i don’t condone violence” while brandishing a gun

[@KahruSuomiPerkele]

or the NFT bro or investment/crypto scammer saying "not financial advice"

[@deadmemes21]

Or traffic engineers just "adding one more lane"

[@Darkfyyre]

@@deadmemes21 i have no idea how this relates to op but it made me cackle. so true bestie, they love their lanes

[@LonelySandwich]

Doesn't Kris literally have a child? Disgusting, how could you do shit like this as a parent yourself.

[@fuzzymcwuffy10]

We aren’t gonna talk about the fact they also had Shadbase art IN HIS HOUSE. Funded a fucking predator. Feel so bad for that kid.

[@captaindein33]

Most selfish shit ever

[@Gigabrain1]

Nope he left his child and wife to play dress up

[@thisguyagain8149]

nahhh he abandoned them lol

[@furbymaster4239]

The x wife took the kid and went no contact when he first came out. I guess that's a good thing in hindsight

[@oceyocelot]

It doesn't matter what your sexual or gender preference is, this is unacceptable behavior.

[@Dr.DisrespectFan918]

But according to people’s logic if you ever said anything appropriate with minors around wether in public or online games or severs you’re predator and no different than DrDisrespect

[@rare_name420]

​@osvaldorubalcava9721 If you're in public talking inappropriately around minors, you are a predator. Wtf is wrong with you.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

​@@Dr.DisrespectFan918your'e not helping anyone here 😅👌 for your sake I hope you're just a bot.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

True, a killer is a killer and a predator is a predator like sin is sin no matter who or what you are simply. I get what some others are saying sometimes though besides the stereotypes because it's on the nose a lot unfortunately.

[@onigames7309]

Exactly.

[@thedarkside314]

When you're talking with minors on an online community, you should never even utter a single sexual word.

[@livebassngames]

I think you'Re helping me understand why reddit banned me from the LEGO sub... too many double entendres like in half my posts...

[@matts375]

How about just don’t talk to minors in your “community”

[@thedarkside314]

@matts375 that's not necessarily fair. I was once a minor in gaming based communities and met a lot of cool, non nefarious people in their 20s, who acted as big brothers and sisters to me. Adults interacting appropriately with minors because of a shared interest is not inherently evil.

[@theultimaterage675]

@@matts375I learned so much about electronics and tech from adults as a minor a few years ago. It’s not that adults shouldn’t interact with minors, just not inappropriately

[@matts375]

@@theultimaterage675 you can learn about tech from other adults and google, there’s no reason to converse with minors you don’t know.

[@infamous.s.679]

You can't excuse the "sending nudes" msg. No adult should be "joking" about grooming a child to the child. Lava might think that's innocent but that's never appropriate.

[@dankmemer1305]

Unsurprisingly the guy who got groomed as a kid, probably by many people, with unresolved trauma thinks it was fine.

[@odindarkll3706]

Groomed people often don't admit to it even when they're older. That is why the grown up preds go after the little ones.

[@ComputerChickProductions]

exactly

[@clarissa8477]

And “joking” in their *friend group* about Chris having a hentai collection. A 13 year old should not be in the same friend group as a 20 year old, especially when those are the kind of jokes they make, and the 20 yo is best friend’s with the 13 yo’s favorite KZbinr. It’s all just too weird.

[@Chilling_Chilling]

This GUY used the "T Card" as soon as HE realized these allegations would leak. It's just like what Bruce Jenner did right after hitting that lady with HIS car. *The T Card is the new get out of jail free card* 😅

[@Schlex]

In a courtroom, if a victim child says that their predator did not SA them, and there’s evidence of actual SA. The charges don’t magically drop…

[@joeshmoe4207]

The issue is that there isn’t clear evidence like that in this case as far as I can tell. Ava is still sick for all the other stuff tho.

[@Unknown_Genius]

"and there’s evidence of actual SA" you got that right - if there's evidence, there however is none. At best the evidence is enough to be considered misbehaving around minors. But at the same time: Color me surprised, KZbinrs/Streamers earn a ton of money from children through ads alone, who'd have guessed that they start using the same humor as their chat does at some point - especially with the hentai jokes you can't tell me that a grown up would start that banter - haven't heard those kinds of jokes since like 2 years after middle school (aside of some people occasionally that you'd consider developmental delayed). Then again, I'm also not from the US, so who knows maybe the "you need to be 21 for pretty much everything" comes down to an actual lack of maturity.

[@Hypnotoad114]

​@Unknown_Genius so far there has been 3 underage kids saying he spoke inappropriately with them. He owned loli and supported a cp artis this is pretty strong case that this is not just jokes.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@Hypnotoad114 That is suggesting that something may be going on, it's a case for investigation, but no evidence for actual SA. And as said, that humor is stuff you'd hear in school, I don't doubt in the slightest that people cater to their respective fanbases and may copy their humor, although it seems strong in language with this one, so we'll see.

[@EnvelopingSuspensions]

*Sexual assault charges magically drops*

[@applesrgod3501]

Why do youtubers just decide they like kids as soon as they get famous

[@yurtthesilentgod1225]

It must have something to do with power. Like the ultra rich. There's something within people that when power is obtained children is the next step. I cannot for the life of me fathom what ones mind goes through to get to that conclusion but the evidence is there and is a very real thing. Daily reminder kids are gross and dumb and it's not a flex to have one obsessed with you and to entertain that.

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@applergod3501 They don't just decide, the youtubers that are sexual predators were always that way, and being famous online simply gives them an advantage in terms of seeking out prey.

[@zoristructure577]

@MAPPrideOfficer dang, the topic is so interesting he got the 'didnt read your comment' rage bait bots to read the comment

[@VentrexTheXVth]

Those who control the media always get blackmail

[@TwoNumbahNiens]

there was another reason why he liked kids

[@tincancrab]

Soon as I heard Shadman, I died on the inside. That man is a menace to society. Makes any name with Shad in it seem sus.

[@MasquedMocha]

only other name i can think of is shadiversity

[@def3ndr887]

I’m surprised no one has “turned the light switch off” on him

[@ShadowOfTheSPQR]

@@MasquedMocha Checks out tbh. He's had a rough time too...

[@Web720]

Shadilay.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

@@MasquedMocha Ironically, another person named Shad, who is sus. That name must be cursed.

[@_P4nth3r_]

ever since diddy it’s been like the purge for people being exposed bro 😭

[@bananakrusher811]

W

[@dollywanderer]

Good

[@_P4nth3r_]

@@dollywanderervery good, these people are horrible it’s just shocking to me. never thought so and so would be a pdf file but truth hurts.

[@mill2712]

And they do it to themselves. Though I say it goes back to R Kelly or EDP.

[@_P4nth3r_]

@@mill2712that’s a good point what i meant by diddy was ever since him it’s like a new one every week or two. we got cody ko, mr t lexify, dr disrespect, kris, etc. all in the span of about a month.

[@irvanray1898]

Even if Lava isn't groomed, giving a children early exposure to porn is a bad thing to do.

[@canihavethesauce]

Some might consider that itself to be grooming, which should be the case

[@cooldinom]

@@canihavethesauce I disagree. it's a terrible thing to do and in the context in trying to get them to do what you want aka grooming then sure, but i dont think it automatically equals grooming, it's a different crime entirely

[@genas6703]

@@cooldinom An adult shouldnt talk about porn with kids. This is like common sense and most definitely grooming

[@NaomiDollxoxo]

@@genas6703thank you, I can’t believe anyone thinks there’s even a debate

[@ammagon4519]

KZbin channels and Tiktok shorts already does that to everyone with their constants $ex "jokes", somehow it's only a problem now??

[@mekniwassime2098]

Mr beast "last one to touch a child wins a 1000000$ challenge"

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

And for the rest of them it’s a compilation of their entire lives until they hold their firstborn for the first time… what? I just want a wholesome ending for this.

[@MagicToenail]

MrBeast would never do that challenge

[@zawarudo1041]

I remember when Mr breast used his platform to send hate mobs to sunny for saying EXACTLY THIS WILL HAPPEN. Now he needs to face consequences and apologize to sunny and every other KZbinr Who was whistle blowing because their pattern recognition ability want shaded by "charity" money from advertisements

[@idontknowanygoodnames1498]

@@zawarudo1041 sunny had a shit ass take and wasn't a whistleblower. Sunny knew nothing of this and it's by chance that it happened. This does not change the fact that sunnyv2 made a shit ass video.

[@IneffableMasquerade]

​@@idontknowanygoodnames1498what was the video about? I'm a bit outta the loop

[@lym678]

"this person isn't representative of their community, they are still wrong and did horrible things" What a solid take. I'm not a regular watcher, not a subscriber, clicked on this out of curiosity and was not disappointed. Way to be a voice of reason!

[@TonyDrake4]

same here

[@Detura]

bro shared Jennette Mccurdy’s leaked pics and then got on Nickelodeon’s Kids' Choice Awards… 💀💀

[@mazebean5200]

I guess they don't like Jeanette all that much anyways, but they probably didn't even know about it... Or if they did then they couldn't care less

[@madtitanangelo5079]

Mr.. beast invited him!! Don't forget that . I wonder what Jimmy has hiding in his drives , to late now probably got rid of everything now 😢

[@tokzick]

Detura??? DUDE EVERYONE KEEPS TELLING ME TO COLLAB WITH YOU ALL THE TIME WTF DAWG THE INTERNET BE CRAZY 💀💀

[@sayantanmazumdar3]

@@madtitanangelo5079 I still don't understand why he still keeps a friendship with the loser scam artist named Logan Paul.

[@ichigokurosaki8661]

I dont wan't to be with another 20 year old or older girl who has been around the block more times then me & i'm still a virgin.. & too much potential emotional baggage among other issues from previous relationships because she got done dirty by her ex fiance or something.. god forbid she already has a child or more already & the father is supporting them but he is not living with or intimate with her just feels wrong.. much rather lose my virginity to a 18 year old girl they are much less likely to have baggage & other issues all though some do have there heads in the clouds.. however they are not sexually shallow & are very adventurous 😘

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

"if i was groomed i would have already come out" thats the thing with grooming, people who get groomed are blind to it.

[@zachrohler1047]

But "nothing sexual happend" isnt the same as "sexual isnt bad"

[@generalmikalie2739]

Okay that’s cool but our little friend Patrick has a message for us… ”FINLAND!!!🗣️🗣️🗣️”

[@Y_MrFox]

can confirm, when I was in my early teens I thought that these adults just liked my humor, I only realized after entering my 20's that their sudden disinterest in me when I turned around 18 was strange which led me to revisit my memories and figuring out a harsh truth.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

The entire point of the age of consent is that minors don't understand that they are being taken advantage off.

[@yosh-9999]

this is just like the bar in heart part 6 💀

[@XenonTFShorts]

LavaGS (the minor in question regarding the Ava Tyson drama) used to be an admin in the MrBeast Gaming server. I was in the winners chat at the time and one day (years ago) LavaGS was banned out of nowhere. The other mods and admins wouldn't let us winners talk about it nor would they give any explanation to why he was removed. I guess we know why now.

[@Quintessence4444]

Kind of odd that Lava is defending this so hard then...

[@eloylie]

When will Mrbeast explain this? 👀

[@zachrohler1047]

​@@Quintessence4444you cant use that as an excuse. Ofcorse folks would fight back agasint stuff like this

[@xdCrispy-Crisss]

Freddy FiveBear gottem

[@Antassium]

​@@zachrohler1047 b.s.

[@hydrogeddonn]

As a gay man I want to remind y'all, *An LGBTQ+ label does not mean you are:* A good person Less likely to commit crimes Always being discriminated against when criticized The victim "Just being yourself" when doing something fishy or morally wrong or questionable Not doing something suspicious when said behavior would also be suspicious if a straight person was doing it Being in the LGBTQ+ community does not mean you are free from scrutiny, criticism, and the punishment for your actions. A rainbow label does not excuse your crimes or terrible character. People's eyes glaze over when they hear the word trans, maybe they are afraid to be honest about their suspicions, but we have to treat people equally, that includes for their crimes.

[@VKK-cr1uk]

Bi here, I agree. I initially dismissed the accusations as transphobia but now I believe Ava not like us. People are reluctant to criticise her because Americans conservatives saying "Not straight = groomer" which not only degrades LGBT people but also degrades victims of actual groomers (who could be LGBT themselves). People who do the above don't care about groomers or kids and just want to score political points, it's disgusting. Why can't peeps just say that all groomers are dispicable?

[@Blox117]

you're right, they are the opposite of what you said

[@user-pm7eq5pu3p]

@@VKK-cr1uk💀💀

[@nothingspecial1421]

@VVK-cr1uk 1. He*, once a man always a man 2. American conservatives don’t think all LGBT members are groomers lmao

[@RoseDingus]

trans woman here, this is absolutely true

[@GigaCraft-420]

Mr Beast next video be like: "Today I got 50 creators in a meet and greet. The last one grooming a child will win a trip to Cambodia."

[@thecorrurtion215]

Why Cambodia??

[@kempolar9768]

​@@thecorrurtion215since it's a poor country there is sadly alot of under age prostitution there, weirdly common for creeps to go to those locations as "sex tourists".

[@av_oid]

@@thecorrurtion215If you don’t know, best to stay innocent to it.

[@speedemon3364]

Mrs Beast?!! 😬

[@francisquebachmann7375]

​@@kempolar9768 no wonder why many french like to stay there.

[@Foraced]

Fun fact: shadman is legally considered a menace to society in his home country

[@Mordecrox]

Didn't know he was Russian

[@NoWayJose24]

Lmao is that true?

[@ChillMinx]

@@NoWayJose24 yes, he is legally considered a "Menace to Society" in Switzerland.

[@TheTobyOMG]

Where is his home country?

[@mr.incredibilis8722]

@@Mordecrox He's actually Swiss, and his artwork was considered highly illegal by law and under the rules of the art school he attended, which he was quickly expelled from after they found out what he was drawing.

[@TrueChaoSclx]

From someone who was a victim, both physically and with online grooming: Claiming you are not a victim doesn't mean you aren't one. It took me years to come to terms with it and realize that I was.

[@ASx2608]

Can you elaborate on this? How can’t you see that you’re a victim?

[@mememan5466]

​@@ASx2608 because grooming is inherently manipulative. If you're being manipulated, it's hard to come to terms with it until way after. Asking the person who was manipulated won't necessarily give you the full picture

[@whydoineedthisB]

​@@ASx2608 Really successful grooming can make you blind to the situation.

[@ASx2608]

@@mememan5466hmm I never looked at it from that perspective. Luckily I don’t need to experience that.

[@ResearchReally]

@@ASx2608 Nice to see so much civility when discussing things we don’t understand. Good of you.

[@hap1678]

Chandler: 🗿

[@NexusUSA01]

Chandler reads bible quotes 😁

[@MUGGINS761]

​@@NexusUSA01 Chandler is a G

[@MUGGINS761]

@Nexus50. plays golf, has a beautiful wife, and stays out of the drama...the man has it all oh and also fruit gushers

[@jerungbiru55]

I haven't heard of him lately. I didn't have twitter. Any update on him?

[@idisplaypace2411]

Chandler believes in a fairytale so they are both bad

[@SpookedGirl]

It feels like every week there's a new PDF file on this site 😭😭😭😭

[@Dimmary]

This shit just doesn't end

[@Dimmary]

@MAPPrideOfficer bots are back at it

[@eror404acountnotfound9]

With how many people are on this website my guess is a average of roughly 1 per day witch is very sad and depressing

[@issintf925]

​@@DimmaryReport and move on, my friend

[@schizophrenic_AI]

This is an old one. The only thing new, is the coverage.

[@exLightningg]

I laughed my ass off at the video screencap of Mr.Beast looking bewildered at a Shadman drawing stuck to the wall.

[@ixxxxxxx]

lmao

[@simpleplan100687]

Mr Beast admiring Shadmans art was NOT on my bingo card this year

[@jahoyhoy9097]

@@simpleplan100687 Admiring is a fuckin stretch

[@Y.T.STachi]

​@@simpleplan100687From what I seen he looks far from admiring that

[@TwitchIsDead]

@@jahoyhoy9097unless he took it off the wall and burned it then he is guilty

[@serialfrost1]

Anyone who was buddy buddy with Shadman needs to be watched extremely closely, especially since most of them took way too long to distance from him

[@galactastar1533]

Absolutely right. People who surround themselves with trouble tend to be trouble. Nice art btw.

[@serialfrost1]

@@galactastar1533 thanks!

[@ReigoVassal]

I was a fan of Shadman. Until he drew sexualized image of Keemstar's daughter. That's crossing the line.

[@anomalocaris2593]

Because they did after he went too far, nobody saw it coming honestly

[@MarshiiNiakilo]

how hard is it to not talk to minors, jesus christ this is like the 3rd person within a month or two to be called out for talking to children 💀

[@450AHX]

I mean come on. It's not like it's the end of the world. Does it look bad? Yes. Is someone going to be traumatized because an adult talked with them about porn or made racy jokes while they were underage? No.

[@monsesh1316]

Who are the other guys?

[@xxedgecumberveggietaleslma9874]

@@monsesh1316 Dr disrespect and Cody ko

[@Trollman-12-15]

@@450AHXthis one right here mr FBI

[@HTJason_S12]

​@@450AHX It's still creepy regardless!

[@eze-takes177]

In the near future they're gonna be running ads like " 1 in every 3 children are likely to be groomed by a content creator, science shows. With a small donation we can encourage these monsters to pursue music instead"

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Considering most ads are scams, that's not gonna happen.

[@gyrthez246]

That music approach didn't work with Austin Jones.

[@crazyluigi6664]

@MAPPrideOfficer Reported to the FBI.

[@OmahaGTP]

Damn you science shows!

[@Captaine_Crunche]

@@gyrthez246 or drake

[@LebrunVentre]

HOW HARD IS IT TO STAY AWAY FROM MINORS???😭😭😭😭

[@keit99]

Apparently impossible if you are a big creator

[@kanebear12]

Pretty hard if you can’t figure out which gender you are……

[@johnpisser1983]

@@kanebear12 Didn't know Dr. Disrespect and Cody Ko are trans

[@calebpribyl5152]

Like seeing these makes me relize that the people doing this stuff has nothing better to do in their life! When I was a kid I’ve always wanted to start a sega Saturn collection this was my goal throughout my time (in the early 2010s!) That and of course watching the sega Saturn commercials! SEGATA SANSHIRO! Now that I got a job I have made my dream come true! And even making my arcade section (with the arcade stick!)

[@HeyItzCrow]

​@kanebear12 damn that's wild. However; Jinbop, Dr.Disrespect, Lion Maker, CallmeCarson, Miniladd, and a lot more who aren't trans. Your move

[@Neio-14]

I think Ava/Kris is completely insensitive to the fact that its weird to be saying this stuff to a minor. Yes, minors say it to each other, once a grown adult enters the mix though, thats a much weirder story.

[@Frog-2001]

even worse this is no 18-17 situation. kris was a 21 year old man during the exchange.

[@jonathanking9954]

@@Frog-2001I just recently turned 21 a few months ago and I couldn’t ever imagine talking to an 18 yr like this much less someone under 18. That’s gross on so many different levels

[@GodWarsX]

He's a nutcase

[@frqstbite1001]

as a minor, i disagree. if its a joke, take a joke

[@Madjichen]

​​@@frqstbite1001As an adult, please stay tf away from adults involving these "jokes".

[@piq-dg3vz]

"i'm not being groomed" says a minor talking to a rich, popular adult. There's great power dynamics that makes the victim's statement questionable

[@gottesurteil3201]

Yeah the minor could be all for it but that doesn't matter the responsibility lies with the adult. Nothing short of the minor assaulting him would take away his responsibility as the adult.

[@zachrohler1047]

"Power dynamic" lmao. This doesnt apply when literally any mention of unkempt interaction can be exploded online. There is no power dynamic when telling would blow up this person's career. This isnt some random boss in the middle of nowhere. Its Chris Tyson the guy from mr.beast.

[@STOPPEDINCOLORADO]

@Surebro-ug8quNah, man it’s definitely more complicated than that. We’re all human beings. Ofc I don’t condone that shit but let’s say your best friend for several years came to you and said they love to murder people. You wouldn’t immediately cut them off because you’ve known them (or think you have) for a decade. It’s not easy to cut off long-time friends. In many ways, a friend is a part of your identity. You’re essentially asking someone to cut off a part of their being at the drop of a hat. Again, not condoning this shit. Just saying there’s a lot I’m sure you haven’t thought of.

[@justyeet2432]

​@@zachrohler1047 cus the guy is rich and famous duh. and it seems the kid wants to form closer ties with the group as well. There will be underlying pressure on the kid even if he's not aware of it. how else do victims of rich and famous people not get what they deserve? its cus the rich and famous' resources and influence putting pressure on the victims and shutting them up.

[@justyeet2432]

but yeah we dont have much context here.

[@hunter5xx550]

I'm an 22 year old man that looks like he's 16, so I get hit on by kids all the time, especially since I work at Skyzone. All you have to do is thank the kid and tell them your age. Not play into it💀

[@JLacay]

I still remember after that after my Black Friday shopping. Some random minor asked me if I eat “cat” and if Im a virgin.

[@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut]

​@@velyrisgeneralising 22 year olds as kids is just weird.

[@IndoorSitup]

@@JLacay bro what

[@chickentenderlover2412]

@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisButFrontal lobe ain fully developed, still a growing kid.

[@JasonAtlas]

I'd served a whole tour by 22. Your not a kid at that point.

[@MoonWielder]

Love how everyone has collectively used "PDF file" as an alternative

[@bub777]

what irks me is that the first F feels redundant. I believe the term should be "PDFile".

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

"PDF File" was a joke going around a decade ago back when I was in college. Now that people are saying stuff like "kermit sewer slide" to keep down the naughty word count it went mainstream.

[@dannyatx]

Cuz youtube can’t handle the real word

[@pencilcase8068]

​@@bub777youtube might figure out we aren't talking about the file extension if we do what you're suggesting

[@holtzheimer]

@@bub777 PDFile phonetically is too close so it might trigger some censor bots. I'd personally use PDF Isle or PDF aisle

[@jus_ice_4433]

in case anyone was having trouble, here's how you respond when a minor sends you a message: you dont.

[@hipunpun]

real, just block em & move on don't entertain any convo at all, definitely not sxual

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

"Stay in school." and then fade away like Thanos just snapped.

[@def3ndr887]

Absolutely mindblowing to those people

[@KahruSuomiPerkele]

I had a drawing facebook page in 2015-2016 and because of the art style it mostly attracted teenagers, I received a few messages back then, they were typically about life choices, like what studies to do and what not. I don't think there is anything wrong talking to teens, they were lost just like I was back when I was their age, so it feels good to help them. It depends the content of the conversation, I only had 350 followers, so I didn't attract crazy followers, I imagine it was the opposite for Kris because he is/was a staff member of the Mr Beast channel, and yeah, he shouldn't have taken advantage of it, and like you said, block them. Unless you have a past of grooming minors, idk why you would block all of them, regardless of the topic.

[@jus_ice_4433]

@@KahruSuomiPerkele I totally disagree. you don't have to block them necessarily but definitely mute their notifications. if you notice you're getting the same or similar questions a lot you should make a public post to help everyone in that situation. The only adults that should be giving a minor advice are ones that know them personally.

[@schism15]

Muta so disgusted he didn't even finish the video 🤣

[@Iwantpizza1234]

finally found someone who mentioned it

[@technolink3012]

😂 yeah I was wondering why it got caught off completely

[@anthonyjoseph808]

full retention time club

[@schism15]

@@anthonyjoseph808 🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@Peppmintleaf]

"seeing re-" *video ends*

[@El_Dynamo]

Some day Muta is going to upload a video with his room being COMPLETELY dark and it'll just be a pitch black screen with him talking

[@bezoekers]

Occasionally interrupted by random gameplay segments.

[@idkanymorelol46]

Darker the room, more serious the video is

[@jaruhcaz]

WW3 confirmed, is over. Completely pitch black video. 🗿

[@faultierheart1149]

It'll be titled "The Void Calls..."

[@maineman5757]

Hasn't he already?

[@TuShan18]

I actually finished reading “I’m glad my mom died” by Jennette McCurdy last week, and with that in mind, this person sharing leaked photos of her is even more disgusting considering the trauma she went through.

[@megami215]

Who cares she's rich

[@gyrthez246]

@@megami215 Money doesn't make problems disappear sweetie. Fix that broke boy mindset of yours.

[@CarolinaBuckrush]

@@megami215this got to be bait

[@Suarez05]

@megami215 Confirmed, You're Kris Tyson on an alt account.

[@odindarkll3706]

iCarly is so cursed that even now we're seeing the long term effect of the cultural destruction it caused. That show gave me the creeps as a kid!

[@JakeDelanois]

The Internet never forgets, and the truth always manages to surface.

[@NonSoSmartPerson]

Ehhhhh not exactly the case 100% of the time. The internet has most definitely let things fall under the rug more than once

[@firstnamelastname442]

absolutely not!

[@MB9613]

Who is Logan Paul?

[@lel1103]

Except it forgets all the time which is why it's always negative.

[@frogmouth2]

Who knew the the person who had shadman art on the wall of *their family’s living room* would end up being a sicko.

[@watsonwrote]

Oh my god, I didn't hear about that. That's like the reddest flag I can think of. No public figure should have a career survive something like that

[@TheHammerofDissidence]

Wait until you find out what's on John Podesta's wall.

[@Letgoit2]

@@TheHammerofDissidence oh booi that guy is so creepy aswell...

[@meeeeeegan3172]

My exact thoughts no one should be surprised

[@tweettweetyweety]

WHAT 😭

[@tsb4]

Ava Tyson, Cody Ko, Dr Disrespect All within like a four week period.... You could either see this as an incredibly disheartening thing, or very good that these weirdos are getting weeded out more often

[@jimmyelkordy3752]

I forgot about Cody holy shit

[@RonaldWatson-rx8bp]

And these pedo-bots aren't helping the situation either..

[@alphabetsoup6837]

Honestly, it's great that people are talking about these things, but it will only really mean anything if we as communities do something. If we stop supporting/donating to these people, then all this will have a purpose.

[@KaliTakumi]

Not Mohg though somehow

[@shoafymusic]

Isn’t ethanisonline somewhere in this mix, or has he just always been a weirdo? 😂😂 dude is weird asf.

[@bekaz13]

"I'm gonna take it down out of respect for Colossal." Not out of respect for the innocent 8yo girl he needlessly dragged into whatever beef he had going on, knowing 100% that it would be out there forever no matter what. Because people like him have no respect for anyone who isn't personally valuable to them.

[@Koi-the-idiot]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@_Depthz]

Why are you taking his words at face value? Shad could obviously tell where the conversation was going, and he knows that if he continues down the path that it was going, Colossal was going to trap him between a rock and a hard place. When he says that he'd be willing to take down the image out of 'respect' for Colossal, it's really just a way of biting the bullet earlier to spare the incoming discomfort and saving his own ass rather than a change of heart or genuine appreciation of Colossal's professionalism.

[@Koi-the-idiot]

@@_Depthz Are fucking defending him rn he said to butter him up. He wouldn't have never take that down either way if colossal never said anything

[@bekaz13]

@@_Depthz It doesn't matter whether he truly respected Colossal or not. My point stands.

[@mjdevlog]

maybe not many people respects keemstar back in the day, but it still messed up

[@primorimo447]

Touchville Predators starting lineup has been announced🐯 Center: Karl Malone Left Wing: Kris Tyson Right Wing: Diddy Left Defenseman: Drake Right Defenseman: Dr Disrespect Goalie: Cody KO Head Coach: EDP445 Let’s how they can play in their first hockey game

[@EAFCConceptsAndLeaks]

Saw LW and thought you were on about football

[@primorimo447]

@@EAFCConceptsAndLeaks Nah cuz I got the name from an NHL Team called the Nashville Predators so my friend came up with an idea to call it Touchville

[@S1NPowerZ]

edp445 actually predicted it LMFAOOOOOOOO

[@primorimo447]

@@S1NPowerZ Fr

[@kianna4415]

​​@@S1NPowerZ No wonder he's the coach 😭

[@dominique8655]

i’m 23 and people my age who try to impress teenagers are just weird to me. it feels like those people are just insecure and aren’t where they thought they’d be at this age. but don’t put the burden on kids to make you feel better. becoming an adult is difficult but do you really think a teenager is gonna help you in your career, your social life, your personal growth? no bc that’s not their responsibility. either ignore them or come to them from the perspective of a mentor if they’re going thru something and you genuinely want to help you know?? let’s just NOT corrupt the youth okay.. their future’s already gonna be kinda messed up the way the world’s headed

[@jimmyelkordy3752]

Depends what you mean by impress. Sexually? Creepy. With something like a cool car? Sure why not

[@MadWatcher]

​@@jimmyelkordy3752Why are you showing off to a bunch of teenagers? That seems very childish and insecure

[@skif32426]

@MAPPrideOfficer do a flip rage baiting freak

[@RetroMagnus761]

They're not insecure. Just creeps

[@SmirkInvestigator]

No one calls out people using people/kids for weird emotionally broken reasons. Until it crosses current laws and decency. Some can heal. some don’t want to change. But no one calls it out and there are no laws, systems, or protocols to address it.

[@CorndogCrusader]

It's important to note that just because someone says they weren't groomed, it doesn't mean they weren't groomed. That's... the entire point of grooming. The victim is groomed into thinking that what's happening is perfectly okay.

[@nocommantarygameplay5516]

So we shouldn't believe victims under circumstances.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@nocommantarygameplay5516 I thought we agreed minors can't consent.

[@HelloHamburger]

​@@nocommantarygameplay5516Believe the victims but never let that be the end of the story. Especially if they are saying they aren't being groomed when their accuser is being accused of grooming.

[@Zippy_Zolton]

it also doesn't mean they were groomed

[@d1l4te43]

I do believe there is some sort of grey area though to feeling groomed. When I was 16 and used Omegle to talk with others, I’ve had adults who knew I was 16 speak with me inappropriately (I won’t go into details, but it was absolutely sexual). Which looking back on it now, obviously I know what they did was wrong. No adult should be speaking to a minor like that. They should have known better, and I know not to do that myself as an adult now. But I don’t feel like a victim. Why? Because I wanted to be spoken to inappropriately. I wanted those conversations to happen. It didn’t matter if it was from an adult or someone my age at the time, I just wanted to talk about dirty things. I don’t hate or regret those conversations, but obviously I know they shouldn’t have happened to begin with. So I PERSONALLY don’t feel groomed, but I won’t deny that I technically was. I understand that not everyone looks back on their inappropriate conversations fondly, but I really do believe that people have the right to not feel like a victim. Though I do understand that the rest of the world (and rightfully so) still would consider people like me to be a victim of grooming.

[@notsogenericstud4660]

I can't believe Mutahar was labeled as a transphobe when he was so respectful in covering this towards trans people but also just exposing this abhorrent behaviour. EDIT: I'm talking about backlash about the keffals video

[@chibi-chibi97]

Oh look, it’s happening again

[@rerereuj]

who's calling him a transphobe? I don't see anyone saying it in the comments

[@flamingburritto]

People will call you a transphobe just for saying or covering anything happening with a trans person. so they arebasically asking for special treatment just cuz the person is trans.

[@meneerNL]

​@@rerereuj I saw some shit on reddit about it, apparently someone who made mutas thumbnails did some stuff but I'm not sure

[@MrPhats-qb2dy]

​@@flamingburritto Exactly.

[@nest3308]

1.5M views with a simple setup in the dark is really inspiring

[@Gabriel-fe6yy]

Simple? Boy got a whole 4090 and high end CPU. It might look simple but it's def more expensive then majority of these flashy setups you see majority of the time

[@OpposingFork]

Simpls? Bos gos s whols 409s ans higs ens CPS. Is mighs loos simpls bus it's des mors expensivs thes majorits os ths tims.

[@Jiminy-trx]

@@Gabriel-fe6yy he means in terms of lighting, videography and cinematography

[@maniacmatt7340]

So with Lava's logic, if a teen is assaulted by a teacher, but they liked it. No problem, move along. Yeah no. That's a problem.

[@bulldozer6781]

It's unfortunately the thought process of a lot of people, both young and old. It's how I thought when I was a teenager, same as everyone around me. I eventually learned why that was wrong, but many people never do.

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

It usually takes years for victims to realise what happened to them was inappropriate. It will take him becoming a father or being an adult around nieces/nephews before he will realise just how inappropriate the interactions were.

[@69hikikomori]

No because these, as far as we know, were just jokes.

[@lotus_flower2001]

And then there is the whole "Grey area" of 16- 17 year olds being with 18-20 year olds. People get confused and doubt whether it was appropriate or not.

[@yeahitsmesofkinwhat]

As someone that's chronically online the sentiment of the internet-at-large is "Was she hot? not a problem"

[@iloveplasticbottles]

By US federal law, its illegal to depict a real minor in pornographic material. It does not matter if its fake or not. So the dude who made that content about Keem's daughter could face actual prison time, and deserves it.

[@KingKrouch]

Shadman also was thirst posting over the little girl in Logan, so yeah, that's definitely crossing a very thick line.

[@vodkaffee4856]

I don't believe the problem is it being "fake" but it is a drawing so it is subjective, for example i could draw two stick figures fcking and say they are underage the same way he can probably say that this is his interpretation of Keemstar daughter if she was a 5000 year old demon

[@William.Kelly7]

​@@vodkaffee4856 when the artist says it's a specific child and defends it being a child, there's no subjectivity. You're making a point, just a really stupid one

[@katlicks]

​@@vodkaffee4856when you say it's a particular real living child it's considered harassment, sexual, of a minor. If you depict fake non real kids who cares, but targeting a particular person is harassment

[@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829]

@@William.Kelly7that’s not the ruling. Still disgusting

[@nickman2345]

April we had P Diddy May we had Drake June we had Dr Disrespect July we have Kris Tyson Can't wait to see what August brings us next

[@5akaria]

drake been getting exposed since a long ass time ago it just took the kendrick beef for people to care and give attention to it

[@Ibr_k47]

july we also had cody ko….😂😂

[@trafalgard.waterlaw4153]

Idk when it started but Cody Ko too

[@lunakitty1990]

And the rest of the year

[@markoz673bajen8]

Bob Shiner

[@wittygore6198]

That KZbin Drama subreddit is doing the most incredible mental gymnastics to defend Ava from pretty much any angle they can find a fingerhold. It's actually insane.

[@shemhazaithewhisperer2061]

People defended Sophie LaBelle when she traced a photo of a real toddler for diaperfur fetish art, what do you expect.

[@Providence..]

It's Reddit, are you actually surprised?

[@daveeyes]

Reddit is a hivemind cesspool.

[@railworksamerica]

“Noooo you can’t harass pedophiles, that’s transphobic!!“ basically Reddit

[@donutbevil9669]

_It's Reddit._ The word predditor exists for a reason.

[@ultimamage3]

The video cuts off as Muta is describing the non-apology text

[@Dante2Guns]

Yuh

[@Belzabond]

Noooo, they got him :(

[@christopherabernathy8003]

Awe. Muta has a photo of his wife as his phone Lock Screen. What a man.

[@purpleprinc3]

I have a picture of Muta as my Lock Screen (previous video thumbnail). I'm a big boy now so I can have what I want.

[@svgaming2716]

​@@purpleprinc3you're a G

[@IneffableMasquerade]

He has a wife? I thought he was just a basement dweller lol

[@romusa10]

I, too have his wife picture as my lock screen,,, wait

[@HelDeo]

​@@IneffableMasqueradeHe has. Muta actually frequently (by the standard of his job) goes outside but he records his videos in the dark which makes him look like a basement dweller.

[@Shloomy_Shloms]

I hate when people bring up that we only care because she’s trans as if Cody Ko and Dr. Disrespect don’t exist.

[@tweettweetyweety]

But some people defend Cody and DrDiddler, so..

[@Shloomy_Shloms]

@@tweettweetyweety people are defending Kris as well

[@zandrazoo2112]

Some people don't care about the actual grooming, just that it feeds to their hatred against trans people

[@nicwelch]

@@zandrazoo2112I guarantee you these people are far and few in between.

[@as3609]

@@zandrazoo2112 Prove it. Hatred of groomers and contempt of TIMs aren't mutually exclusive.

[@BrandonJohnsonGameStation]

MrBeast Definitely needs new friends and I'm calling it right now.

[@CageBlack1443]

Or at least get rid of this one, we don't know how the others are

[@def3ndr887]

Chandler’s pretty chill tho

[@carboy101]

You know what they say about birds and their flocks

[@newt4949]

Mr beast definitely sus asf after this to me, he was staring at one of shadmans drawings in Kris’s room, and the fact he knew, he definitely knew, is sus and I don’t fw that at all, praying for that channels downfall

[@AhegaoMachine666]

"Let's watch a popular KZbinr who isn't a weirdo!" *Buzzer noise* Aww, dang it- Edit: consider the following: this is a meme

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

Hbomberguy Manga Kamen Contrapoints

[@kinman3051]

​@@alexandreturcotte6411 I only know one of them.

[@sloth4844]

you watched 1 right now

[@YoDaBones]

don't worry Mutahar is here

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..]

Aw dang it Aw dang it Aw dang it

[@raisin6926]

The camera lens made me think I was going blind for a second

[@OG_Sneert0130]

This exact thing happened when I read this comment.

[@AshleyAlyse]

Just FYI, The police can easily get a warrant for Snapchat. It doesn't matter if they "deleted" their account, the data is still there and they can get the chat transcripts.

[@dvl973]

Maybe in the US, in EU by GDPR you can officially ask to get all your data permanently removed from servers. I don't know if US has a similar law.

[@Dr_Monitor]

​@@dvl973given how unfortunately often shit like this happens, it kinda makes sense that law enforcement can have data like that subpoenaed to use as evidence. While I'm all for privacy, having receipts on people who do maliciously do illegal acts is still a good thing, too.

[@Ryu_R.]

​@@dvl973no law like that exists in America

[@verakoo6187]

​​@@dvl973 we do, but it's opt out, not opt in. So they keep it unless u specifically tell them to delete it. The avg user however doesn't know that's even a thing and just assume the msgs are gone because they can't see them.

[@MelodyOo]

Man it must really relly really suck to be a child in this era, All games are gambling scam and manipulative.. Your activity is 100% recorded, everyone in school wants to chase clout and glued to stupid social media. social hierarchy in school is measured by "number of followers" = desperation for clout to a point that exploitation becomes a thing. yeah, i'd hate to be a child in this Era. I blame the parents too for being too lazy, for giving their child a smartphone or tablet without moderation or rules or curfews etc.

[@jeenkol7461]

I'm pretty sure being a child in the Victorian era was way worse

[@mayonaise1799]

I agree but I think that being a kid in the volcanic winter of 536 AD was way worse

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

Thankfully not, what your seeing is a rise in reporting. In the past these people would have gotten away with their crimes ( my father nearly fell victim to this when he was a kid, he reported the attempt to the police and they scolded him for smearing the good reputation of the towns mayor, in my generation it was the priests who again were upstanding members of society and beyond suspicion ). Abuse of power and status has been a huge issue for as long back as we have records. At least now people are listening and addressing the issue.The state of things is fucked but its getting better not worse.

[@bingus4901]

You think that because you live in this era.

[@ReigoVassal]

​@@jeenkol7461 I think being a child in caveman era is way worse. No medicine so if you sick, you dead. By certain age you must learn how to hunt or farm. Also married and have child as soon as possible. Life expectancy is around 30. Might be sold as slave if captured by enemy tribe. Winter is deadly. Etc.

[@jurassicjaws]

Some of us were calling out Kris for being a fan of Shadman for a long time, but that was considered "phobic behavior," and we were silenced. Some of y'all need to stop ignoring canaries in the coal mine.

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

That won't last.

[@mountebank5034]

Ridiculous. A total fall from grace for Mr.Beast.

[@IneffableMasquerade]

Phobic?? Wdym?

[@pretextor]

The thing is that kris wasn’t the only one associated with shadman. There are countless youtuber associated with him but i sadly can’t post the link for some reason. This callout just feels like only targeting kris.

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

@@IneffableMasquerade Afraid, but it was them that's afraid of the truth. Trying to silence their opposition, a tyrant in sheep clothing

[@uncledoggo]

Shadman named dropped like a Marvel credits scene.

[@zeinzz1906]

I legit forgot about him, and then search his youtube channel and then unlock some terrible ass memory 😂

[@DreHayn]

KZbin got a pdf problem...

[@ComputerWizard]

Everywhere on the place we call Earth has a problem, buddy.

[@Ketamime]

Its not just youtube there are literal sites dedicated to it.

[@Vase94]

​@@LebrunVentreJust say CP... don't let YT censor you and force you to say cheese pizza.

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

​@@LebrunVentreStill? I thought they destroyed those bots.

[@DreHayn]

@ComputerWizard just add youtube to the list of problems, pal.

[@samye5537]

More like MrBeast is a terrible person as well

[@ReigoVassal]

He fake some of the videos like the survival video or something. I think that one is okay. But his other contest are rigged. And the Squid game contestant is also treat horribly.

[@marioalexanderski9598]

And an even WORSE one.

[@TheMightofDab]

> He fakes his videos >The Squid Game contestant were treated horribly Sounds like his videos are a little too real :^)

[@phemeloseotlolla]

The video cutting off during the "apology" us pretty poetic.

[@999MIX]

You know things are about to go downhill when shadman is mentioned

[@tweettweetyweety]

And I usually see like… half the people in the comments saying he’s innocent

[@Mystic_countess]

It's like he's a bad omen

[@anglosaxiphone8246]

​@@tweettweetyweety Being a fan and regretting it is the innocent part. Especialy if you used to own art. OneyNG, PsychicPebbles, other old school animators were pals with him until he drew real kids. Im not saying pals as in talk once, I mean collabed and hung out. Part of growing up is realizing you dont have the best judgement and distance yourself from old friends who were scum. I can defend Kris for being apart of the edgy crowd in the early 2010s... but messaging minors is awful with this context. Don't help Kris was chill with F1nster who had been speculated to be connected to Giggly Goon Clown another predator.

[@SWANSWAN-nc7ds]

The goth femboy guy didn't he get arrested for assault

[@anglosaxiphone8246]

@@SWANSWAN-nc7ds Yes. Shad drew a goth a femboy too but he is not one. Dude is a trog who used to have femboys, buff dudes and women cosplay him when it was cool.

[@GothamCity85]

Having worked as a website/forum admin for over a decade, messaging minors never crossed my mind. Being an admin it was my responsibilty to address site/forum security, mediate user conflicts and answering questions. We had a PM feature available for users to message us with any issue or questions they may have had. Unfortunately I had to perma ban adult users who had been using the baked-in chat feature to send inappropriate messages to the minors who used the website. He thought the chat feature was private but the admins could page into any open chat window to monitor or moderate them. We also had a chat logging tool that ran at all times. I took a few screen shots and made copies of his chat log for evidence. He knew he was cooked as soon as I showed him his own chat log. For cases like this we would send copies of the chat logs associated with the user along with a complaint to their ISP to get them ISP banned and to their local lawenforcement agencies. COPPA or Children/Child Online Privacy Protection Act requires these steps to be taken when illicit or illegal activity involving minors occurrs on sites/forums open to them. COPPA violations can land you in a lot of hot water as site/forum opperator.

[@selenaurie]

Thank you for taking the appropriate actions to keep minors safe and hold predators like that accountable! It’s terrifying how many people use positions of power maliciously.

[@ASx2608]

You seriously rock!!

[@crayongf]

people like you are super important!! make sure to take breaks for your own mental health bud

[@velcrofishsticks6002]

​@UTTPisraeISback go away libertarian

[@youbluethatone1017]

Cool story bud

[@crazykingdavid3546]

Miguel de Cervantes: In "Don Quixote," Cervantes wrote, "Tell me what company you keep and I'll tell you what you are."

[@envy811]

Yes. In Spain we say: dime con quién andas y te diré quién eres

[@livyykitty]

Isn’t this kinda how Colleen Ballinger was canceled?

[@kayleigh1991]

This is way worse than Colleen. What Colleen did was messed up but she never had loli in her house.

[@anubis24354]

It’s worse because Colleen was never seemingly trying to get favors from them, just talking about inappropriate stuff. Thus why people are kinda ignoring that she’s back to making videos.

[@sarahaque1382]

Colleen was way worse dude, she was just edgy there was no sexual grooming but Kris on the other hand...

[@3choblast3r4]

Muta, I get what you mean by "I can't make a victim out of the guy if he doesn't feel like that" .. but homie, we don't ask underage kids if they're victims. They've been groomed. A lot of them will defend their groomers even after they've turned into adults. This kid is very close with Kris, he's part of that Mr Beast circle because of Kris. He's grown up terminally online making hntai jokes and looking at lolipop pictures, he probably doesn't think there is anything wrong with it.. It's not a very reliable witness Furthermore, this kid has gone to every single big channel pre-emptively to defend his "older buddy" telling them "nothing happened, it was just some edgy jokes." NAH fam, it doesn't matter what the kid says. It matters what Kris said and did. If the kid doesn't feel like a victim, that's fine bro. But then it becomes a slippery slope.. "well the kid was ok with it?" ... so what happens when a 14 year old starts dating a 32 year old, and 8 years later she's 22, married to the 40 year old going "no, it's fine, it's great actually. I am totally not a victim" .. how is that goint to look bro? Are we then just going to be ok with it? Are we then just going to stop chasing after creeps targeting minors? Nah .. this is all so beyond f'd up. I get that the kid is no victim if he doesn't feel like it, those feelings might change in the future.. now, he doesn't want to lose his famous youtuber buddy who's friends with the biggest youtuber on the platform.

[@3choblast3r4]

P.s. I feel bad for the poor girl that married Kris but I also feel like, bro if you're with a guy that makes "edgy jokes" to little kids and has pictures of lolipops and chupachups on his wall. You.. you don't date that guy, you certainly don't marry that guy.. and the LAST thing you do, is give that guy kids and free access to those kids. Ladies, if the dude you're with is suddenly using nail polish and stuff. And he wasn't doing that before or wasn't an edgy goth kid doing it since highscool because "f the conformists" .. homie probably is having an identity crisis. It's probably not going to end very well for you. Like it's not going to end well for anyone when their spouse suddenly starts talking about the benefits of open relationships lol

[@Gamma_B_Vods]

These creators are getting better and better at the “ruin your career any% glitchless” speedrun

[@zakarius08]

fr we need more normal/ good youtubers like muta

[@thejuggernautofspades9453]

I now wanna see the glitch speedrun

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@zakarius08 And MatPat.

[@zakarius08]

@@Raccon_Detective. yeah but he left 😔

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

I've to respect the grind to get the world record.

[@theturnc0at]

"It's fine, guys, the person who got groomed said they didn't get groomed! We can trust their word on this being entirely unaffected by any other possible factors!"

[@KSaran7]

Doing this while being a PARENT is so disgusting 🤮🤮🤮

[@Dr.DisrespectFan918]

it happened years ago

[@rare_name420]

@@Dr.DisrespectFan918 that makes it okay?

[@KSaran7]

​@@rare_name420they're still a dr. Disrespect fan despite everything, of course they would defend child abusers

[@zeinzz1906]

​@@Dr.DisrespectFan918Oh my god ofcourse you are the one who are defending it 😂

[@GekkoOne]

@@Dr.DisrespectFan918 No statute of limitations on being a freak, buddy.

[@BurningSorrows]

The way Muta just CUTS the video at the end when i was listening in about what Kris said IS GOLD LMAO

[@mnxax]

mutahar got tired mid editing

[@weetakuT]

​@UTTPisraeISback your intellect is just a number

[@Krexel]

​@@weetakuT It's a bot. Just report and ignore.

[@weetakuT]

@Krexel thought it was a rage bait account, thanks for letting me know

[@UncleMyers37]

Why is literally almost every celebrity into children. It cant be a coincidence

[@omensoffate]

Alex jones has been saying this for years

[@tylere.8436]

Because they haven't grown up and think they are still edgy teens being a bit naughty. Never got taught morals.

[@LancesArmorStriking]

It's probably stunted development. These people grew up in an industry where youth is prized above all else (beauty products, plastic surgery etc) and their fans- the demographic that adores them- are often younger. They never had real normal life experiences because everything is always opportunity for content and they have to spend most of their time focusing on content instead of gaining life experience. I don't think 100% of the people who abuse others are pdfs, but that kind of environment and culture can skew someone's view of what's acceptable so far out that its indistinguishable from the real thing.

[@RonJeremy514]

Because me and Epstein it goes way back...

[@MajinManGTZ]

Jarvis, pull up the epstein flight logs

[@TheFallenAngel13524]

The abrupt mid sentence ending made me think my internet went out. lol

[@Cho0c0]

Finally someone who is covering this in a proper way, there are a lot of misinformation about this in twitter from wild exagerations to stupid downplayism.

[@SirLoafOfBread]

why did the video abruptly end lol. It just ended out of nowhere.

[@R0gue1gNite]

yes I would've though one of the top comments would have this

[@JasonAtlas]

Watch time type vibes.

[@aleksasnadar]

THANK YOU i can't believe how far I had to scroll for this to be mentioned??

[@user-sf6ut8bq6g]

muta was too disgusted to finish

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

This comment will be drowned out so I just want to say I was banned from Reddit for "transphobia" when someone asked who Tyson was and I responded with Lava's story. As more minors are reaching out in the past two weeks, revealing their interactions with Tyson, I have been unbanned. Fascinating.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Yeah, it was clearly a mistake. They should ban you again.

[@railworksamerica]

Lmao

[@donutbevil9669]

Dude, look up the word "Predditor". You're welcome.

[@scarlett8782]

when someone does something objectively wrong, the twitter vultures aggressively call it out as being wrong, but when a trans woman does something objectively wrong, the twitter crowd calls any mention of her wrongdoing "transphobic bullsh*t" as if trans women can't be terrible people. that discord recording of Kris made my skin crawl.

[@sabersroommate8293]

Special defense privileges for the lgb+ groups. Of course, we need to be fair here.

[@Derberbeve]

It looks like all this happened when she was a guy anyway

[@neonmenace1592]

Well the problem is also that LGBTQ+ ppl are more often accused of saying or doing horrible things than others. There are obviously horrible people from every group, but often the horrible actions of a specific member of a minority group are greatly inflated to spread hate toward others in said group. It's also worth mentioning that trans ppl and gay ppl are often referred to as "groomers" purely because of their sexuality or gender identity. TLDR: Some people so vehemently defend trans people because some others so vehemently attack trans people without basis.

[@rileytheworm8991]

not excusing the behavior but i think a lot of people react this way because there are unfortunately a lot of cases where people make up rumors and accusations that get trans women harassed. especially pedophilia accusations. so now some people just blanket assume any accusations like this are false without actually checking first

[@MemoriesLP]

​@@sabersroommate8293yeah.... while you say that, lgbt people die for being lgbt, lose family and friends that cant support them. Etc So just remember that sure what you said happens, it is not like we have much privilege. It is actually the opposite.

[@michaeljones2162]

Remember when everyone was getting on Kris Tyson for having lolicon art and people claimed we were all just transphobic?

[@nickman2345]

Sad thing is Kris is probably far from the only KZbinr guilty of liking that crap

[@Alex-vm6ef]

​@MAPPrideOfficer how tf does this account not get banned? I've been seeing these comments for days

[@Alex-vm6ef]

The weird part is how people are trying to act like it's bc he's famous, when he was clearly into that stuff beforehand

[@generichuman2044]

​@@Alex-vm6efmeanwhile my inoffensive comments are being sent to the shadow realm

[@Alex-vm6ef]

@@generichuman2044 ikr KZbin removes my comments constantly for seemingly no reason

[@underground_hideout]

if Muta ever falls into some kind of weird allegation situation ima never watch youtube again i would be too sad

[@AbrasiousProductions]

I hate to say this but suspect everyone.

[@sillkthashocker]

Never trust anyone

[@LiamNajor]

Agreed, but with that being said, Mutas actions speak to a man of principle, and actions speak loider then words. I'd be truly shocked if something comes out about him.

[@Vase94]

Nah. Muta isn't a kiddy diddler.

[@jimmyelkordy3752]

The day Charlie gets exposed as a predator I think I’m gonna lose my marbles

[@franschristian9878]

20:21 Jimmy clearly like a beast back there😂😂starring at very "eye catching picture" on the wall😂😂

[@joshthehawk746]

i like how chandler has just stayed a nice kind devout christian this whole time and stays away from drama

[@CrazyWeatherDude]

Chandler is a real one.

[@kanoaikawach]

chandler is weird

[@Benw8888]

the christian part doesn't matter

[@idisplaypace2411]

christianity is a fairytale and he's negatively influencing his audience.

[@rva1326]

@@idisplaypace2411 you're a sad little dude

[@thefreakyone777]

Video just cuts mid senten-

[@Budlightyear]

I was wondering if anyone else was getting that or just me lol

[@hpafonso]

same ahah I was listening in background and thought my internet cut off xD

[@vundaych]

This ain't 2 nickels anymore this is the whole coin pile 😭

[@wagerobot5231]

If Ava was saying all that in public on Twitter, I'm terrified of what they might have been saying in private

[@Heneraluha]

And out come the private Discord leaks...

[@nouseinaname]

If the excuse is "these are jokes" Then they are the dumbest, most dangerously unhumorous jokes ever. Yeah they are truly an awful human. They are lucky they are sheilded by Beast's umbrella.

[@anonony9081]

Isn't it interesting how the "they were only jokes" Excuse only tends to be used for really unfunny stuff?

[@GekkoOne]

@@anonony9081 I think people just have a line. There's edgy content and people who'll find that funny but for most sane people, children are the line.

[@Adbig1778]

Master oogway ahh humor

[@HavianEla]

27:07 Kris: “I’m not endorsing anyone to look into anyone’s private business.” Kris in the same video: *leaks revenge p*rn of a minor* Good Lord!

[@qTrinity]

she was 22 at the time

[@CTomCooper]

@@qTrinitybruh 😞…It has a lot less to do with the person in the photos at that point and far more to do with the person who had to acquire access to those photos to leak them. The type of person who does that is not of reasonable mind.

[@spaman7716]

​@@qTrinityI was considered an adult by the court system at that age, so should he

[@pizzac5931]

​@@qTrinityBruh that's no excuse. I'm 20 and I wouldn't have done something remotely as vile even when I was 17.

[@VolatileHunter2]

Thats a young adult come on now ​@@ffel91still babies in my eyes

[@intense_pickle]

why did it cut off Sopranos style?

[@user-uj4dr4tw4o]

was just about to comment this lmao

[@l3hxy]

Hot take: Lolli should be banned. All kinds of illegal porn kinks should be banned.

[@sercascade]

not a hot take, pretty reasonable to be against stuff with kids

[@HybridEpsilon]

Then short people wouldn't be outside bc they trigger adults into being attracted to short people under 5ft and have a more kidlike appearance.

[@high-captain-BaLrog]

it is the adult man’s fault not the drawing’s fault but the drawing didn’t help either

[@PotatoPoro]

​@@HybridEpsilon If you can't tell the difference between a short person and a child, then you're the one who has a problem, not them.

[@im4ft622]

It's sad that this is considered a hot take

[@Schlex]

honestly i don’t care what the victim says if we saw the evidence of grooming. he said i posted “noods” for you as an adult to a minor. enough said.

[@Schlex]

in a courtroom of a kid says he wasn’t SA’d but there is evidence of SA. The charges don’t magically get dropped.

[@aromatic-engineer5230]

@@Schlex most of the groomed victims dont realized they were being groomed

[@EngrishTeacher]

@@aromatic-engineer5230 yeah, thats the whole thing about predatory grooming is the victim doesn't have the maturity to recognize the manipulation

[@LovableLex]

As a victim myself, agreed, Lava is a victim.

[@OUTLAWinTX]

This trans excuse does not give you a pass to be a pos. I’ve about had it with these people getting away with messing with children. It’s gross. Just because you say or expect to be a “protected class”… that doesn’t shield you from being a chomo or being held accountable for being a predator pos

[@epiccheesemoment4035]

Agreed, however manipulative evil people exist in all groups. And people know that in today's climate being a part of a protected group makes you less susceptible to criticism or at least gives you a shield so bad people attach themselves to these groups In order to hide or shield some potential backlash. There are normal trans people just trying to live their lives

[@Anna-sd4zl]

​@@epiccheesemoment4035 and not to mention it ruins the reputation of us than already is m

[@Mooshkajoe]

​@@epiccheesemoment4035 Tell that to the mob. Anytime anyone in the alphabet community speaks against this, they are attacked ruthlessly. The "normal" ones appear to be a minority... So...

[@minneelyyyy]

The only people I've seen are people such as yourself complaining about people who say stuff like this. I've not seen anyone actually defending her from this because she is trans. Not like it doesn't exist absolutely anywhere, I just think this isnt a big deal when it's not a large amount of people. It's like how giving any amount of mental attention to conspiracy theories is a waste of time. There were also people defending Dr disrespect. Also, how many large internet pedos who get outed even get arrested in the first place once they were caught? I'd say they're all getting treated too nicely, but you're just seeing it with a minority and assuming they're getting off easy because of their minority status

[@JosephWalker-ip7pd]

​@@Mooshkajoe100% the normal are the minority. The rest see calling this behavior out as transphobia.

[@iDave720]

thanks for not backing down on this one my guy

[@nurgle-j5n]

They had Shadman "art' hanging on their wall when they lived together. Jimmy absolutely knew.

[@kissestoyouiskisandyou]

I absolutely don’t like that type of art but don’t use quotation marks in the word, it is art (No, I want to clarify again that I DO NOT like that art and never will)

[@grunkleg.3110]

If you're a trans ally and are hung up about Kris doing harm to the community, I can promise the most harmful thing you could do for your cause is to shield her from everything. Then it just proves to people that you do accept these bad actors

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

Sunny V2 deserves an apology from Mr Beast and the trans community. Sunny V2 tried to warn everyone and was crucified for doing so

[@Re_V]

*him

[@shakiron5913]

Ava did a lot of harm to the community, I don’t defend her actions but I’m worried her bad actions will fuel the false suspicions that members of the LGBT+ community are groomers/pedophiles and will draw unknowing people into that harmful mindset. Dr Disrespect was in that mindset of “protecting the children” and attacking LGBT+ but was also a pedophile, I just hope people will see that these bad people are in every community and should be shamed but no one community is responsible for harboring all of them. And also, I hope everyone respects her pronouns, it’s true that she is a bad person but people saying that it’s okay to misgender her are just using this as an excuse/outlet to be transphobic, they really don’t care about the situation and are simply taking advantage of it. And again, I believe groomers and pedophiles are awful people who should recieve therapy or jail time.

[@thedoof1729]

​@@Christo_Trismegistus no he dosent sunnyv2s entire video was how the transition would hurt mr beasts image Not once did he ever say anything about grooming or minors

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

​@@shakiron5913False suspicions 😂😂

[@kevinross6235]

Yeah, Kris definitely isn't helping the "trans people are pdf files" narrative some people believe in Edit: I don't believe in this narrative/stereotype just like how I don't believe in the "priests are pdf files" narrative/stereotype. My comment is simply about this Kris case not helping it with the "trans people are pdf files" crowd.

[@BrentMalice]

almost like its true lmao

[@ashuraomega1000]

That's just a stereotype. It's not actually true

[@RandomAutist]

Narrative? it's a reality, baby.

[@Badookum]

Some people believe in? Lol you say that as if there isnt evidence that its atleast partially true.

[@vodkaffee4856]

​@@donut_42what the ratio compared to catholic priests?