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Electronics Repair School

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11 ай бұрын

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@justinspiredfallout
@justinspiredfallout 11 ай бұрын
It's an honest person who admits their mistakes so thank you. Many of us look up to you for electronics and life advice and this shows exactly why. Thank you for all that you do, Sorin.
@rscelectrical7091
@rscelectrical7091 11 ай бұрын
We all make mistakes from time to time, the bad thing is when we don't learn from them.
@juarezcastelo
@juarezcastelo 11 ай бұрын
I'm in my 40s, and I learned that it's not a mistake of you learn something from it. Thanks for posting this, smart people learn from the mistakes of others.
@duplicitousdemocracy2246
@duplicitousdemocracy2246 11 ай бұрын
This is the story of my life Sorin. You made a mistake this time... but I make the same mistakes in life, multiple times. I try to laugh at my own stupidity and for me it's just a hobby, I only work with other peoples (or my own) discarded equipment. No great loss except for the amount of useless appliances I have around the place. Even with your extensive skill and experience, these things happen.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 11 ай бұрын
Love! We are stupid as we take a device that is too dead to be repaired and then we have plenty things around not working, sometimes that's how we have dozen computers half working, because we had chance, other taking place for nothing😭😭😭
@duplicitousdemocracy2246
@duplicitousdemocracy2246 11 ай бұрын
@@patriciaoudart1508 For sure Patricia!!
@nestortounouvi7428
@nestortounouvi7428 11 ай бұрын
hello mr sorin.thanks for all your electronic lessons.i'm learning a lot with you. since 2020 i started following you like a beginner.but now i'm like a professionnal.you're the best repairing teacher on KZbin. i'm from a little french country in africa called "TOGO"🇹🇬thanks a lot.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 11 ай бұрын
Fresh! Was a joke!
@martinljubic84
@martinljubic84 11 ай бұрын
I learnt a long time ago, when a fuse is blown, FIRST CHECK WHAT MADE THE FUSE BLOW UP. An IO chip, is in the same category, check what made it blow up.
@paulandrew6456
@paulandrew6456 11 ай бұрын
Sir Sorin, there's always something new to learn from you. Your supposed mistake has taught me the best line of action to take when dealing with this kind of problem. You actually wanted to show us the mistake so we can learn from it. Thank you Sir
@sfmn2396
@sfmn2396 11 ай бұрын
Best repair channel, always bring me good mood, I watch all your videos, please keep them coming :D
@skjatayumobileandlaptop1013
@skjatayumobileandlaptop1013 11 ай бұрын
You have kind hearted to make video about your mostakes, that's why I watch your videos daily sorin sir
@computersrepaircotesaint-l7407
@computersrepaircotesaint-l7407 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this lesson
@joseph_donovan
@joseph_donovan 10 ай бұрын
Your mistakes Sorin help us enormously in learning and understanding electronics in general and repairing laptops in particular. Thank you so much for posting this invaluable lesson!
@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal
@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sorin, use a blade as a chisel to cut the chip legs near the chip body, and then drag solder with the iron. Love your videos, greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹
@ruimiguel6969
@ruimiguel6969 11 ай бұрын
I also use the same technique, is easier to remove the damage chip and avoid the stress of the pads.
@spiritseer001
@spiritseer001 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the lesson.
@gamer_5042
@gamer_5042 11 ай бұрын
I know this pain very well 😬 but thanks for being honest and still uploading even failed repairs, for others to know what to watch for when doing this kinds of repair. I have got lenovo board with fried ldo, waiting for replacement chip,this reminded me to check everything connected to 3.3 and 5v.
@martinljubic84
@martinljubic84 11 ай бұрын
"Haunts", its in your title, are places one used to hang out at. "Haunt", on the other hand, is reliving bad experiences. Thumbs up, love your work.
@HeiderSati
@HeiderSati 10 ай бұрын
Great work as always Sorin
@roche1237
@roche1237 5 ай бұрын
Nobody's perfect, if we do not make mistakes we don't learn. Keep up the wonderful company you are having with us. We highly regard and respect you.
@mm0077
@mm0077 11 ай бұрын
Thank you and much appreciated.
@marphymarphy
@marphymarphy 11 ай бұрын
TY that U share Ur mistakes too and we can learn from them😊👍🏻
@eldjoesther643
@eldjoesther643 10 ай бұрын
Every new video you are doing is a lesson for us. Thank you our engineer teacher 😊
@3Dukkan
@3Dukkan 11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video Sorin! Another amazing video which we can learn something. I always appreciate that you are not hiding something from us. Each repair is unique and we are learning a lot from you and you are the person who inspire me for electronics too and i'm repairing devices now at home for others. All the new Laptops which coming for repair most likely have PCH problem. It's really strange, before it was first or second mosfet :) Cheers
@davidorris638
@davidorris638 11 ай бұрын
Sorin, Thank you for your generous e-learning for me every week, learn a lot.. thanks .May my God bless you,your family, and business 🙏 🙌 ❤️ Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
@winlose3073
@winlose3073 11 ай бұрын
Thanks master your efforts always appreciated one mistake does not change the respect you deserve it's not even a mistake it just happens to everyone, you tried to help the customer by giving it a try but he gambled as you said at the start what more can you do.
@AKhan-nu9mw
@AKhan-nu9mw 10 ай бұрын
Thanx you, Sir.
@kadmaster
@kadmaster 11 ай бұрын
Come to Besiktas,Sorin...
@Trustsimo07
@Trustsimo07 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the video, we learn
@Ratein-Mall
@Ratein-Mall 10 ай бұрын
good method to explain details and steps
@Sa-ll1lh
@Sa-ll1lh 8 ай бұрын
stay strong sir, God knew you doing your best, and we hope your time will be better and better
@tonict2302
@tonict2302 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@blackdotkiller1
@blackdotkiller1 11 ай бұрын
The hole in the EC chip is for ventilation 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@laerticomputers
@laerticomputers 11 ай бұрын
Good Job !
@gadgetfixup1628
@gadgetfixup1628 11 ай бұрын
I use VHB tape to insulate plastic connectors. Sticks much better than Kapton tape and protects against heat. Give it a try.
@blonde7000
@blonde7000 10 ай бұрын
I love your personality. Mine has no backlight
@Mattia_22
@Mattia_22 11 ай бұрын
That’s when we learn the most mr sorin ahh from our mistakes thanks for uploading
@electronicrepairservice2020
@electronicrepairservice2020 11 ай бұрын
We all make mistakes, it comes with the territory. I used to beat myself up when it happened almost to the point of feeling incapable or stupid, like maybe I should not be doing repairs, especially when I thought about the waste of time and money coming from my pocket instead it going into it. But as you've said before, we are always learning and sometimes that comes best from making mistakes like this. Customers probably won't understand the hazards of this occupation but those of us who do repair work do. Knowledge & experience go hand in hand but we are all human & humans make mistakes no matter how good you are. Thank you for showing those of us who are less experienced than you that it is part of the trade. Ever 'accidentally' crack a panel on a $1500 TV?😖🤬 Sometimes learning can be expensive.🥺
@corinasechelariu1307
@corinasechelariu1307 11 ай бұрын
"Ever 'accidentally' crack a panel on a $1500 TV?" No.. , but I ended up with a few vertical lines.. 😁 ($800 PC monitor)
@corinasechelariu1307
@corinasechelariu1307 11 ай бұрын
"Sometimes learning can be expensive." Indeed...
@electronicrepairservice2020
@electronicrepairservice2020 11 ай бұрын
@@corinasechelariu1307 It makes for a bad day 😖 for sure!
@Bianchi77
@Bianchi77 8 ай бұрын
Nice video, thanks for sharing it, well done :)
@raol635
@raol635 10 ай бұрын
I am happy for this mistake 😂 because we learned 3 times more than what we learn from success. I am new to your channel. Thank you for your teaching. 😊
@mnemonicrulez
@mnemonicrulez 11 ай бұрын
Proper calibrated wire ❤
@jozsiolah1435
@jozsiolah1435 11 ай бұрын
Since the 386 motherboards, the chipsets have spare connections, and can be optionally soldered directly, with resistors or capacitors. The connections lead to ground, or to other chips. It seems to be setting connections, but there is no information what to do with them. These options are also in phones, and other devices.
@pp3v42_g3h
@pp3v42_g3h 11 ай бұрын
I fixed the same model one week ago with coffee damage on the ec area and missing ram 2.5V LDO. Then spent over 6 hours removing the keyboard parts and cleaning them...
@mantaskirpsas5054
@mantaskirpsas5054 11 ай бұрын
You best ❤
@polarbear128
@polarbear128 11 ай бұрын
You should get t-shirts printed with "This is a niiice laptop". I think you could make a killing. I'd buy one.
@thetravelernumber1
@thetravelernumber1 10 ай бұрын
Thanks sorin for sharing your experience with us Could you tell us where can we get diagram schematic please
@stefanitha
@stefanitha 11 ай бұрын
Even old professional guys make mistakes! That's a great push up for us, noobs! Salutări, bătrâne!
@Atetus94
@Atetus94 11 ай бұрын
True story bro 😉
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 11 ай бұрын
My mistake that haunts me is, I read the title and knew it was a fail, but by the end I forgot and was disappointed at the no-fix - lol -.
@MR308W
@MR308W 11 ай бұрын
What universal connectors and cable do you use to power the laptop with the power supply?
@ElectronPCFix
@ElectronPCFix 11 ай бұрын
Dear sorin, pls tell me how I decided what wire can I use as a proper calibrated fuse
@jozsi76t.15
@jozsi76t.15 11 ай бұрын
We learn a life long.... and yeah, also from our mistakes. At least, remove back the new IO chip and the new power mosfet IC you soldered to it😉 maybe the next repair need any from it
@benaumark
@benaumark 11 ай бұрын
شكرا لك على هذا المحتوى المفيد الذي تقدمه.
@Teslamaniac
@Teslamaniac 11 ай бұрын
Try using low melt solder and flood the chip with soldering iron then use your hot air to remove it quickly
@dorfschmidt4833
@dorfschmidt4833 11 ай бұрын
Cut pins with a knife, remove chip, desolder pins with soldering iron.
@donald1056
@donald1056 11 ай бұрын
Put some sticky aluminum tape on the plastic connectors should help
@sumuduasiri
@sumuduasiri 11 ай бұрын
I think that desision is very good. I have never seen you check coil impedances in your videos. That was big curiosity for me because you always supply power from dc power supply and check the condition. I think that was wrong. Because if there was is a problem in motherboard, charger will cutoff. But dc power supply will not cuttoff and power go through the circuit and then it may be damage to components. As i think 😊. Please explain am i correct???
@MattBee2k2
@MattBee2k2 8 ай бұрын
If you insulate plastic with tinfoil, it works surprisingly well at protecting stuff, not 100% though so still try to aim away but I find it's better than kapton.
@MnemonicCarrier
@MnemonicCarrier 10 ай бұрын
This was a sad ending 😢
@dean-543
@dean-543 10 ай бұрын
It breaks my heart when I see an empty RAM bay.
@filenotfound__3871
@filenotfound__3871 11 ай бұрын
How do you know witch chips EC chips are self programmable and witch ones do need to be programmed?
@electronicsrepairschool
@electronicsrepairschool 11 ай бұрын
There is a list on our discord
@filenotfound__3871
@filenotfound__3871 11 ай бұрын
@@electronicsrepairschool Where, I can't find it.
@Aneesh.Asokan
@Aneesh.Asokan 11 ай бұрын
Yes, me too would like to know but can't find it on discord!😢
@electronicsrepairschool
@electronicsrepairschool 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, it was in the staff area, but here you have the list www.alisaler.com/programmable-and-non-programmable-io-controller/
@Aneesh.Asokan
@Aneesh.Asokan 11 ай бұрын
@@electronicsrepairschool Thanks a lot Sorin!👍😀
@tikaziitech
@tikaziitech 11 ай бұрын
Same to me
@brightikechukwu1065
@brightikechukwu1065 10 ай бұрын
Their is no mistake there, because even if he changed the graphic card chip, the mother board won't power on due to the exploded IOC and Spider IC They must be replaced too I'm a hardware engineer too!
@David55436
@David55436 11 ай бұрын
I'll tell the truth, I'm not sorry that you make mistakes because that's how I learn the most😊 Of course, it's all with great appreciation and many thanks for everything, even though it's better to buy you a cup than to just say thank you very much😉
@melplishka5978
@melplishka5978 11 ай бұрын
Aahhh I think I understand now lol. You meant checking the circuit from the coil to pch lol. Sry. But honestly I learn more from your mistakes than mine lol. At least you have the wisdom to understand why lol. Ty for your pain and suffering it inspires us all.
@gamer_5042
@gamer_5042 11 ай бұрын
Quick question . Is this 5v ldo main and used even for usb devices and sata or just some lower power chips?
@armanesmaeily7087
@armanesmaeily7087 11 ай бұрын
Well actually i know what your mistake exactly is and I've been experienced these kind of fault. Unfortunately most of the 3.3v and 5 v alw ic are faulty and when you replace this ic , it will blow one of the high side mosfet especially high side mosfet of 3.3 vlaw and it will let enter the 19 v main power rail to 3.3 vlaw power line and it will blow up the ec chip and pch. You must disconnect the jumper output of 3.3 and 5 vlaw to prevent entering the 19 v to output and if these 3.3 and 5 vlaw were present , you would be allowed to reconnect the jumpers which i mentioned before.
@lucataszarek8782
@lucataszarek8782 11 ай бұрын
Hello🤝you are only human 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👋👋👋👋👋
@ElectronPCFix
@ElectronPCFix 11 ай бұрын
16:41 sir can I use any tin wire for such job?
@MrRvdbeek
@MrRvdbeek 11 ай бұрын
Sorin What was you thinking? Normally you always check the coils. And the video is editing so I thought you did check. You are making a mistake and that’s because you are human. And that’s normal. I still like to see your work it’s so much to learn and we learned it the hard way this time
@tactical1015
@tactical1015 11 ай бұрын
Still haven't figured out how to do chips like this without the solder shorting pins. I've tried low melt paste with hot air. an iron with a tiny tip and no matter what there's always a short between at least two pins. Trying to fix it always ends up just moving the problem to other pins until I have a mess.
@timecentral3134
@timecentral3134 11 ай бұрын
not sure if you're using flux, but flux cured the problem for me when I was learning
@pp3v42_g3h
@pp3v42_g3h 11 ай бұрын
Flux and when everything is soldered move the bridge to an edge and use solder wick.
@JamesWSleight
@JamesWSleight 11 ай бұрын
It looked to me like that Lenovo chip had its pin 96 touching the other.
@andybonneau9209
@andybonneau9209 11 ай бұрын
Try low melt solder.
@ioannisbalouktsis962
@ioannisbalouktsis962 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sorin how are you? What is the brand of the PCH IC in order to see if I can find a trustworthy supplier? kind regards
@MrEmiriv
@MrEmiriv 11 ай бұрын
Of course you can change the PCH, get yourself a zhuomao and buy a PCH from a reputable distributor, make sure it's new, as they sometimes come with interenal fuses set by the motherboard for the damn bootguard, I do it all the time, please change the solder balls for leaded ones to reduce soldering temperature and thus the risk of damaging it
@pp3v42_g3h
@pp3v42_g3h 11 ай бұрын
" interenal fuses set by the motherboard for the damn bootguard" more info on that? It's rare that I have to replac the pch 8mostly because it's an integrated pch and not worth replacing or everything is damaged and I don't take too much laptops for repair). You can't really get new chips, SUHMS is not that bad on ali, but most of them will sell you something and they don't even know where it's coming from.
@pp3v42_g3h
@pp3v42_g3h 11 ай бұрын
@MrEmiriv Also "zhuomao" is really a "Rossmann viewer" brand, noone actually uses their mechines, Scotle, Honton and now LY are the known cheap brands, do you actually use a zhuomao/seamark station? (And with enough experience you can change these with a preheater and a good quality hot air, but a lower hot air helps to make the reflow profile shorter.)
@MrEmiriv
@MrEmiriv 11 ай бұрын
@@pp3v42_g3h I do have access to a zhuomao, it was bought about a decade ago in the Age of Reballing, difficult to justify nowadays. I did buy actually new PCHs a couple of times, and also used ones, the thing about boot guard is that not all brands and models have it activated, I heard some Dell do, in that case they RUIN the PCH, so that if you put them on another machine it keeps shutting off 30 MINUTES after turning on, not even a clean ME can save you, only a new (or otherwise unfused) PCH. I'm from Argentina where it's always worth changing the PCH and even the CPU if you can get your hands on a working one, all the way back to sandy bridge even
@MrEmiriv
@MrEmiriv 11 ай бұрын
@@pp3v42_g3h also you can find some chipsets in mouser
@elviejoperro3077
@elviejoperro3077 11 ай бұрын
Good work anyway
@ghostbiker7391
@ghostbiker7391 11 ай бұрын
correct me if im wrong but normally if a chip is blown up it's caused by short circuit or something, so if you gonna change that chip you need to check what was the cause or the new chip will blow too.
@winlose3073
@winlose3073 11 ай бұрын
that is true but the short can happen inside the chip because it has many components inside much like the thins outside so the chip itself might be shorted to ground and the current has to go somewhere or blow the chip and we've seen many damaged chips that are the only problem.
@ghostbiker7391
@ghostbiker7391 11 ай бұрын
@@winlose3073 but it won't stop you from checking if there is an issue somewhere elese cause if that chip is expensive and you just solder it without checking it will be costy
@winlose3073
@winlose3073 11 ай бұрын
@@ghostbiker7391 this is the point Sorrin was making here yes he showed us an occasional mistake that happened with him so that we learn.
@renegadesg018
@renegadesg018 7 ай бұрын
@Electronics Repair School hi, are you using any anti static equipment? Im new to disassembling and im quite afraid to open the laptop and cause a short, i know we must disconnect the battery first and then do whatever you want but i just want to replace my thermal paste in my legion 5 15ahch model
@MrThomashorst
@MrThomashorst 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. Thats not a mistake, it's enthusiasm😉
@alexg9155
@alexg9155 10 ай бұрын
So the EC chip and the 3.3 power supply blew up as an effect of the shorted PCH, right?
@mistsemy1522
@mistsemy1522 11 ай бұрын
When failed repair do you pull out the chips that you replace coz it cost money. Many repair shop used to charge repair attempt fee, what do you think about that? Personally i think it fair to charge repair attempt fee cost it takes time to diagnose and time is money lol
@wouter_h
@wouter_h 10 ай бұрын
Charge 75€ for the diagnosis. Checking what the issue is, is part of work. Otherwise if its that easy customer could do it themselves. But obviously they cant….
@DIYRepairHour
@DIYRepairHour 11 ай бұрын
You can desolder both chips you fitted, no point them being there and hope you will use those again so money is not a problem really. The time though... This is something you wont get back. Only way is to start charging flat bench fee for repair attempts
@weerobot
@weerobot 11 ай бұрын
Sorins Ghosts are Laptops.. 👻
@ElectronPCFix
@ElectronPCFix 11 ай бұрын
Current and volts.... 😂
@user-jw7mk6pc2i
@user-jw7mk6pc2i 11 ай бұрын
what did you get? experience! I think not one experienced person was not without mistakes
@shirshendudasgupta611
@shirshendudasgupta611 11 ай бұрын
Everyone does mistake even knowing the basic methods..sometimes.. But anyway... that's a good lesson for beginners
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 11 ай бұрын
Learning from mistakes!🙏💚🧡I would have do the same, because you taught Us, first MOSFET, liquid damage and blown chip evidences, last day, I find a used computer for no money, And I opened it, a nice Toshiba, but not working, and liquid damage, around the screen connector, with components blown so first the idea is to search some components and change them. Yes should first see if there's current on non blown chips. Our eye is looking first to visible damage.😵
@DanM-b4b
@DanM-b4b 10 ай бұрын
Does the yellow sticker necessary?
@qhew
@qhew 11 ай бұрын
your “mistake” doesn’t even register with me, Sorin. but i love to learn typical failure modes from your repairs. you don’t use schematics, which would be my starting point, just physical inspection in homing in on your repairs. (mybe schematics aren’t even available anyway.) what would help me is if you could use TEXT OVERLAYS on video, to define what exact chip you are talking about…”io, bios” or whatever. thanks
@windycl111
@windycl111 11 ай бұрын
@AssassinSagar
@AssassinSagar 6 ай бұрын
Sir I have same model laptop with power ic failed . Sir plz tell me the name of ic so I can order and replace plz
@melplishka5978
@melplishka5978 11 ай бұрын
Sorin if the I/o chip is shorted and that other chip , won’t the the coil be in short as well. So either diagnostic path you would have taken would of resulted in the replacement of both Chips anyways. So how is this your fault. ? Or am I wrong.
@davodamirajam1276
@davodamirajam1276 11 ай бұрын
I always learned that when the explosion was strong, it must have damaged the chip or CPU
@supernova1163
@supernova1163 11 ай бұрын
How long do laptop fans last?
@Kiburici
@Kiburici 11 ай бұрын
I would desolder the ports from back! Better safe then sorry
@EinSwitzer
@EinSwitzer 11 ай бұрын
Get a piece of paper and trace the damage and make a map key so you don’t forget as well as notice other attached items that could of been damaged I like repairs to last, don’t yall
@Framac23
@Framac23 11 ай бұрын
Why Kapton Tape and not aluminium tape ? 🤔
@loverboykimi
@loverboykimi 11 ай бұрын
Sorin, why you quit mobile phone repair? .. Gosh new camera is flawless!
@kpjVideo
@kpjVideo 11 ай бұрын
Phone repairs kinda suck, customers always want their phones back ASAP giving you very limited time to look at them. Not to mention how difficult they are getting to repair. If you charge enough money its worth it.
@techvishalnewsdevelopers309
@techvishalnewsdevelopers309 10 ай бұрын
Is it fixed finally?
@aliemlek
@aliemlek 11 ай бұрын
👍👍👌👌
@zorangrdic4820
@zorangrdic4820 11 ай бұрын
😢
@GregM
@GregM 11 ай бұрын
Blow up real good.. put the old chips back
@leso204
@leso204 10 ай бұрын
Frustration when you check everything & still it will not work' been there lots of times ....................
@digihorse6730
@digihorse6730 11 ай бұрын
Dont beat yourself up. As the new power supply chip did not blow up again. I think the power supply chip failed first, which then over-volted the PCH and EC chip. Any other scenario would have caused the new replacement power chip chip to fail again surely.
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