Calibrite (X-rite) ColorChecker Passport 2 VS DataColor SpyderCheckr 48: Which Is the Best?

[@Sondercreative]

B&H Link ColorChecker Passport - bhpho.to/3ixG3jr SpyderCheckr - bhpho.to/3izit6f Amazon Link ColorChecker Passport - geni.us/CCpass2 SpyderCheckr - geni.us/spydercheckr

[@boaztepper7871]

I was astonished by the massive difference in colors between Lightroom and Capture One. I thought C1 was only a software some niche photographers and Fujifilm users would use, but these color differences alone make me want to give C1 another chance. They just look SO much richer, not only in terms of saturation, but also in terms of like a 'filmic' quality in the exposure curve.

[@fireice2585]

I think the reason why Lightroom looks different is because Adobe applied its own internal curve to the final image in its profile, while Capture One allows users to adjust their own curve beside color matching.

[@TasteofTaboo]

fun fact, you have to do that for every lens, the color rendering of the lenses are often really different. I do sometimes are reproduction, did some catalogs and books for painters. Also for work in the studio you have to do this also with your lights and oh boy, light modifiers can be so different, also flash tubes ... this can become a huge rabbit hole. I did also some high end fashion stuff and fabrics can become fascinating. This is the point were you need all this and realize stuff people on youtube never testing

[@ColinRobertson_LLAP]

I took your advice from a prior video and bought the color checker passport. It made an incredible difference in my Lightroom workflow-the images from my Canon are so much more pleasing than when I use an Adobe or 'Camera-matching' profile. Maybe I should create profiles for all of my lenses, but trying to create profiles for various lighting conditions didn't seem to make much difference compared to just applying the profile I created when I first bought it-I set that as the default profile and never really use the color checker anymore. I would buy a larger one for architecture jobs but they are so goddamn expensive it doesn't really seem worth it when my initial profile just works.

[@Sondercreative]

I’m very happy to know that thank you soo much for telling me. The larger one when used in capture one is worth the effort for me however if you’re happy with the results you’re getting with what you have that’s fine :). We don’t need to always try and produce the most “perfect” result especially if it frustrates your work flow. Very glad that you found it useful though.

[@ForeverYoung007]

First time coming across your channel. Good stuff, valuable insight.

[@rubengarza8901]

I have the SpyderCheckr. Its colors are not accurate. The problem is that it makes presets and not profiles. I did a test where I sent an image to the Datacolor software using the Adobe Standard profile and sent the same image with the Camera Faithful profile. The resulting presets gave me different hues when, theoretically, they should have adjusted to the same hue in relation to the camera profile I used. The X-rite Color Checker makes actual camera profiles.

[@jean-claudemuller3199]

From my own experience, right chart orientation against light is critical. The slightest even non visible chart glare can give catastrophic results in colors rendition. This is particularly true with a higher end X-Rite SG chart. Best profile precision is only obtained with a calibrated chart when loading the calibration datas file in the profiling software. Hasselblad Phocus software can import the calibration datas file of the chart

[@Sondercreative]

I completely agree. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@MichaelRoachWV]

6:20 - I noticed this as well, Spyder CHANGES the color profile from "Adobe Color" to "Adobe Standard" which kind of raises blacks, drops whites, and reduces saturation. I'm not a fan at all lol, this will likely wreak havoc on my Imagen profile

[@soundslikewater]

One minor thing is that you are using the Adobe profile over the Canon 5D4 profile, adobes profiles seem more like a shot in the dark. You can apply the cabin profile automatically on import. Only thing is you have to choose one of many (i think 6) For me it wasn’t worth the hassle. I just used the grey patches in the x-rite to play with white balance. thanks for your vids!

[@JDubyafoto]

Great comparison!

[@vladimirboevvisuals8032]

Thanks for you amazing job!!!! Thank a lot, man!!!!!

[@JoopZweetsok]

tip: for portrait photos, click with a gray point on the white of the eyes, then you will have a good color balance, then sample the skin above the nose (forehead), read the cmyk value and make sure yellow in number is 10 higher than magenta example: Magenta: 30 Yellow: 40 or in steps by 5 Magenta 30 - yellow 35, good luck.

[@berniemac7777]

Great video. Can you do a video comparing the SG colorchecker? Don't know if it's worth the extra money. thanks

[@Walter_Kircher]

applying CC profiles in Capture One using the Xrite/Calibrite SW to calculate... you should note that blacks are more grey... everything else is fine. For C1 standard icc profiles do not work... as C1 icc profiles have build in a bit greyscale correction in dark area too. The SW does not take care of it... you can not choose to calculate correct profiles for Capture One. I detected Lumariver too SW for creating correct C1 profiles... handled right it takes care of this C1 speciality... important... as i find camera profiles for C1... ICC profiles generally most times better than the Adobe profiles. worth the effort. Second tip... naming the new profile similar like the original of C1 ones... then you find the new profile direct in the folder for the specific camera.

[@AMusset]

Very good video, I just ordered a SpyderCheckr and you have a new subs! Where is that link that you refer too on how to use the software in Capture One?

[@Sondercreative]

It's kind of an old video now but here is the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXS5k6Z-aLeqndE

[@AMusset]

@@Sondercreative Thank you!

[@AMusset]

Just received my SpyderCheckr 48 and to my horror it is NOT supported by Lumariver?!?! How did you create ICC profile for it to use with Capture One?

[@Sondercreative]

@@AMusset Yoiu have to select the 24 Patch option because most software will only use the 24 patches on the colourchecker passport and the spyderchecker.

[@AMusset]

@@Sondercreative Except that X-Rite now support ICC workflow thus uses all 48. Wouldn’t that provide better results?

[@bilfoto]

Nothing comes close to being as good and accurate as the X-rite ColorChecker. Trust me. Anyone who has tried it and who really works seriously with it notices this very important difference. And of course, it should be used properly. X-rite is the best.

[@z3rg868]

How can I use SpyderCheckr with Capture One? Doesn't the software work only with Lightroom?

[@Sondercreative]

With Lumariver you can use it with capture one in the same way as you do the Colourchecker. Not sure if the native software supports it though.

[@mhs6305]

I'm using the Spyder X Pro calibrator to calibrate my monitor. Which would you suggest, the Spyder Checker Photo or Colour Checker Passport? Should I stick to the same brand or it doesn't matter?

[@Sondercreative]

I haven’t found that it matters very much. Personally, I think it depends on what software you use most. For most people, the colourchecker is probably a better option because it works better in lightroom and works the same in Capture One. So its overall better but its usability sucks a little. What software do you use the most?

[@mhs6305]

@@Sondercreative Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop

[@mhs6305]

From my previous experience with Colour checker passport it creates new colour profile whereas the Spyder Checker Photo creates preset. Are they doing the same thing? I thought Preset is for colour grading and some effects. I only do photography, no video

[@Sondercreative]

@@mhs6305 Basically yes, they operate differently so the results are going to be different. I think a colour profile is a better option because then yuo still have full access to the HSL section in Lightroom on the actual raw file.

[@stuffstuffstuffyay]

do you know if both work with Camera Raw? I don't want to use Lightroom as it is not what I normally use.

[@Sondercreative]

Not sure if they work with camera raw, havent tried it sorry.

[@stuffstuffstuffyay]

@@Sondercreative thanks i will try

[@jean-claudemuller3199]

Why using Lumariver software as the free softwares delivered by these chart manufacturers make perfect ICC camera profiles ? Starting post treatment with a flatter image is more flexible with better final image quality that starting with more saturation and contrast. For me flatter is better, the important point is having the highest possible bit rate in the workfkow until converting it to 8 bit in the very final step.

[@Sondercreative]

Mosty because Lumariver does a better job. X-rite software produces hrasher looking results. This is especially the case with the highlights in the image.

[@sarimner]

Hi! this is probably a bad ide but! what will happen if you combined HSL settings that was med with the SpyderCheckr 48 and the profile that are med with ColorChecker Passport on the same Image? will it look like shit?🤔🙄🤓 If you get what i mean..

[@Sondercreative]

I actually tried that and it didn’t seem to work. Everytime I picked a profile it would remove the HSL and if I selected the HSL it would remove the profile. I think it is a an either or situation here.

[@sarimner]

@@Sondercreative that sems wired that a setting would remove another..🤔🤔

[@user_love-]

How to use spydercheckr for capture one?

[@Sondercreative]

Same process as outlined in the video linked below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXS5k6Z-aLeqndE

[@hyd119]

Hello. I am a complete n00b to photography. What other useful but largely unknown tools like this are out there? Not just color grading but can be anything. If you would be interested I would love a photo of both of these IRL in a vibrant setting of some sort like on a book shelf with all the colors of books. I would pay to have a raw copy and a corrected photo of both aha. If anyone out there has both of these and is interested.

[@Daniel_DP83]

4:25 your spyder checkr was turned 180° !!!

[@Sondercreative]

@@Daniel_DP83 yep :)

[@noahkeabba]

Veey nice

[@964cuplove]

You are talking foto not video - right ?

[@Sondercreative]

The video is about photo.

[@chazM6116]

Passport is a Profile as the other one its just a Preset two different things

[@Tap-a-roo]

Once you shoot Nikon, and use Capture NX Studio, you realize that everything else is total crap.

[@Sondercreative]

Yea but its a nikon :p