Sonic Adventure Remakes ARE POSSIBLE - Here's how!

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@spritvio639
@spritvio639 3 ай бұрын
"The Adventure remakes are possible!" Said people for 10 years now.
@kevinsteelflex7371
@kevinsteelflex7371 3 ай бұрын
I think remakes would be good to refine the original stories so modern audiences see what we thought we experienced years ago.
@ElevatedScvrecrow
@ElevatedScvrecrow 3 ай бұрын
And gives us a chance to relive those games in modern graphics
@bachilles3285
@bachilles3285 3 ай бұрын
Maybe they could get Hardlight or Chaos X and Sonic Pox onboard for a hybrid Toys for Bob/Resident Evil 2 and 4 remake, where the controls are recreated on Unity verbatim with up-to-date animations, Hedgehog Engine 2 visuals (preferably with a patch made to the Hedgehog Engine 2 to fix the draw distance), and a script by Ian Flynn that keeps the overall dialogue intact with some creative liberties to either streamline it and make it more cohesive or put the Adventure series inline with series continuity.
@bluudevil4483
@bluudevil4483 3 ай бұрын
Trash is what we experienced
@Magnet_Chaos
@Magnet_Chaos Ай бұрын
​​@@bluudevil4483 Yeah. But we didn't know that. lol The comment did say what we THOUGHT we experienced.
@kevinsteelflex7371
@kevinsteelflex7371 22 күн бұрын
​@@Magnet_Chaosyep, i notice the flaws now, but i can tell what they were going for so i'd like to see the vision fully realized someday.
@xBlaster
@xBlaster 3 ай бұрын
Sonic fans: remake the adventure games Sega: ok Sonic fans: but i want them to look and play just as the original Sega: ...
@BritBox777
@BritBox777 3 ай бұрын
Only a very tiny audience wants that, the rest of us just want a damn remake.
@stopmob1097
@stopmob1097 3 ай бұрын
Wdym look I would kill for an animation update
@MysticClaws100
@MysticClaws100 3 ай бұрын
Isn’t that what Sonic Origins is though?
@faz10do
@faz10do 3 ай бұрын
@@MysticClaws100it still plays like the original so no
@Sonic-q6i
@Sonic-q6i 3 ай бұрын
@@xBlaster sa1 needs a fan remake do that way I can play it on pc
@With2Ls
@With2Ls 3 ай бұрын
It’s always cool to hear pup talking about things in sunset city and then seeing it get more fleshed out in a full video
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 3 ай бұрын
tbh nintendo switch 2 graphics and power for a Sonic game is enough! Sonic games using the most of PS4 power is honestly what I expect from the franchise. If more games looked like Unleashed but modern power, then that's the graphics I wholeheartedly take! Shadow Generations looks good enough already to me!
@TehJellyLord
@TehJellyLord 3 ай бұрын
I am at the point where I think we could really use some Adventure remakes. I love the originals to death, and I will always have those versions, but I really want to be able to play these games and experience these stories in a more polished and modernized experience. I basically want that original core Sonic Adventure gameplay brought up to modern standards with reanimated and revoiced cutscenes. They can make some QOL changes, and maybe flesh out some of the level designs for the alternate playstyles in SA1, but otherwise they could keep it mostly as is and just shave off the age. Plus, I always have the originals if I want to go back and experience the old version. I do not need a remake to be a full on replacement for the original, so in this case I would want them to go all out with a remake and make the originals more accessible as well, or even include them with the remake.
@toastedsquare
@toastedsquare 3 ай бұрын
I want the remakes to be the modern reinterpretation. A good remake shouldn't replace the original, but stand on it's own as a new way to experience the original. Keep to the artstyles of the original games, like a rounder Sonic for Adventure 1, and a more angular one for Adventure 2, while having them be high poly models. Ideally, bring in the original voice actors who are still with us and have them re-record their lines with proper direction, as the voice acting in both Adventure games is very weak. But I also wouldn't mind hearing the modern cast play these roles either, it would be very interesting.
@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730
@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 3 ай бұрын
This would be where they would have to commit to bringing back humans in a notable way, so I hope they just do what they did for Sage and Maria in the animation and just go with the anime aesthetic.
@szszabolcs9582
@szszabolcs9582 3 ай бұрын
I think the Human artstyle moving foward would be an anime/SA1-S05 x Pixar/Unleshed hybrid, with most characters being both Anime and Pixar, but some would be fully Anime like Younger characters (Maria) S05 = Shadow 05
@ssg-eggunner
@ssg-eggunner 3 ай бұрын
fr the japanese animation and pixar styles from adventure 1 and 2 respectively are the peak of human designs
@patricewatkinswilliams3953
@patricewatkinswilliams3953 3 ай бұрын
I kinda like realistic designs from 06
@coolcharles45
@coolcharles45 3 ай бұрын
The fish skins is cursed yet amazing. HIRE THIS MAN
@HonestJohn_01.19
@HonestJohn_01.19 3 ай бұрын
Neither Sonic Adventure, or Sonic Adventure 2 need overly faithful re-releases, HD remasters, or ground-up remakes. What they really need-- is a "redux". Mechanically faithful, visually ground-up remakes with refined yet tonally-accurate dialog, and subtle quality of life improvements where necessary.
@DeterminedTorres
@DeterminedTorres 3 ай бұрын
Basically: Give the Sonic Adventure series the Yakuza Kiwami treatment in a much better way, right?
@bachilles3285
@bachilles3285 3 ай бұрын
@@HonestJohn_01.19 So, Resident Evil 4 Remake.
@BritBox777
@BritBox777 3 ай бұрын
We've had re-releases and mods for over 20 years already. It's time for an actual remake, from the ground up, on new hardware, with new engines. The best games of all time have been on a wave of remakes lately, and the Adventure games deserves to be in that trend.
@szszabolcs9582
@szszabolcs9582 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion Both games should use the same chao garden, think of the Islands in Sonic Origins 1. is SA1 2. is SA2 3. is the shared Chao Garden Let us access all chao gardens, but make the SA1 Chao Gardens unlockable...it woild work like...when you find it's original location you will enter it AND UNLOCK IT for the Chao Gardens What about giving SA2 a hub world as a post Game thing, give us SA1 styled Chao Gardens for a few locations, let us acces all levels by simply running there like in 06, Unleshed and Frontiers Give SA1's hub world the same treatment after beating the story And to make this shared Chao Garden System work...i think the games should share the same (or similar) artstyle, with the models being a mashup of SA1 DC and SA2 Models, but make it so that you can achive recreations of tgeir original artstyle as optional or unlockable like say...unlock SA1 arstyle by finishing a story in SA1, and when it's used in SA2 or the Chao Garden...the characters will be more like DC SA1 and the textures look more like how they would have looked like in SA1 I think it would be a fun idea... You get a slightly modernized artstyle by default, but you can unlock a more faithfull verson of the original Game's artsyle with both games sharing the same chao Garden And for the physics...idk they can use a modified verson of the Supertars physic system, but make it more similar to the Adventure games like giving Sonic a mildly overpowered spamdash This would be great for NEWCOMERS AND LONG TIME FANS And if Fans are pissed with the remake...cause i know Sonic Fans are pissed of by everything They can have moddefied, emulated versons of the games as like an original mode The modification is adjusting the sound mixing to make it sound more like how it used to be on the Dreamcast, because without modification, it will sound like DX and Battle since the DC's capabilities of balancing the audio will be still lost, because that's not the game, THAT'S THE CONSOLE
@Sydney_Angelyt
@Sydney_Angelyt 3 ай бұрын
how will the chao morality system work when all the characters in SA1 are heroes?
@TheCarsonXFallGuy
@TheCarsonXFallGuy 3 ай бұрын
If they did recast the cutscenes and voicelines, I would like to have some way to turn off the modern voicelines/music and play it with the original composition. It would both make the cutscenes and original voice actors roles feal good, while also causing the newer lines to hit.
@koga115
@koga115 3 ай бұрын
Everyone has too many opinions on how these remakes should be made. I feel for SEGA
@cabecadeprego8772
@cabecadeprego8772 3 ай бұрын
the only people that think these remakes arent possible is SEGA
@szszabolcs9582
@szszabolcs9582 3 ай бұрын
Don't be negative, Sonic Team can pitch the idea to SEGA and they may find it good...
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 3 ай бұрын
I meannnnnnn, Persona 3 Reload managed to bring in the big bucks. And ATLUS is owned by Sega, so they probably see an intrigue to make Sonic remakes
@victorapellegrinosc
@victorapellegrinosc 3 ай бұрын
I honestly don't want a "remake" of these games. I want a remaster but not a remake.
@Tazer_Silverscar
@Tazer_Silverscar 3 ай бұрын
Nothing can be done with Big the Cat, he's like a god now. At least according to Ian Flynn X'D
@BlackShadow01-05
@BlackShadow01-05 3 ай бұрын
Tbh I would prefer the modern cast. Now that they are being given good direction they can make a good game
@Caybee1999
@Caybee1999 3 ай бұрын
I’d be perfectly fine with the potential remakes using updated graphics and the current voice cast, but the gameplay definitely would need to capture the feel of the original games while also giving out quality of life improvements.
@chemostar2361
@chemostar2361 2 ай бұрын
i'd much rather see these as fan remaked than anything official. theres alot more freedom there
@BritBox777
@BritBox777 3 ай бұрын
I still suspect that Sega has been making 'pieces' of an adventure title with each new project. We have modern playable versions of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Shadow... we have big hub worlds possible with open zone... we have a fishing minigame (mandatory)... we have a Chao Garden system coming down the line... I think this is intentional as they're trying to build towards a big scale Adventure remake on a limited production budget.
@JohnMartin-ll9cw
@JohnMartin-ll9cw 3 ай бұрын
If the remakes were to happen, I hope Sega fixes the dialogue timing of SA2 and the mistranslations (like “Was that Chaos Control?”) of both.
@zero69kage
@zero69kage Ай бұрын
I have only one reason for wanting a remake of the Adventure games. I want to play chao garden in modern graphics. Saga give me my chao babys!
@jskywalker58
@jskywalker58 3 ай бұрын
One thing i would love to see in adventure remake or a future sonic game in general is for the cutscenes to be animated in a artstyle similar to the frontiers prolouge and shadow dark beginnings,
@trynnicus
@trynnicus 3 ай бұрын
if they do a adventure 1+2 remake I hope they make it a bundle, where they allow the chao gardens to be shared, and some type of online friend/rival system. I also think it would be neat if they allowed the characters to play a corresponding character's levels in the opposite game with a relevant story (post both games story btw). The style they go with I think should be shared between the games, but adjusted slightly between the games to reflect tone. Piratekingluigi's style on the 3d models of the character look amazing, charming, and faithful, but don't mesh well with the textures of the background and the pipe shadow grinds on. They'd need to apply that style to all the environment textures to make it look good. betterSADX changes are kind of given, but I'm sure there's more changes in both games that would make it to an official release.
@featherguardian6023
@featherguardian6023 3 ай бұрын
I do believe it will be Difficult to Remake it in any format but it’s not Impossible.
@blindnerd4871
@blindnerd4871 3 ай бұрын
My idea would be from either a complete radical modernization, or a touch up. They can fix the animations, the gameplay, and in Adventure 2's case, fix the sound mixing problems. Either way, a remake of these games would be amazing.
@zeedop
@zeedop 3 ай бұрын
if and when they remake the adventure games: •they'll use the same character models for both games •they will do re-takes of the voicelines with the modern VA's •both games will cost 60 $ each (if SxSG is anything to go by) •they'll have 400 different versions of the game, all with different stuff added (origins style)
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity 3 ай бұрын
If we did get remakes of SA1 and SA2, I'd be for the entire game duology to have a more anime-esque look that Maria's rocking, since I feel the Puyo-Puyo style is more fitting for that verse. Obviously Eggman and Gerald would look the same across them all, but I wouldn't be against both games unifying that look, since while I know many prefer the Unleashed Pixar-esque look, but seeing Maria in a style other than the one done for say, Sonic X or the Dark Beginnings Prequel, feels off for me. Gameplay-wise, though, I think a way to circumvent the Big's Fishing Minigame would be to use the Frontiers Fishing System. Maybe in either the Action Stages or hidden in Station Square like the Emblems, you can find tokens for Big's Fishing Grounds, which could also be the Chao Garden, so that way you can use the Tokens, fish, and spend the tokens on either items for Sonic and Co. for aesthetics (Maybe even some Classic skins or Concept Art Skins), Chao Eggs Chao Fruit and even Chao accessories. The Go Home Machine could also be a tool to link to a Chao Garden App for Mobile devices, or maybe even a niche device for the hardcore fans that works like the modern color Digimon V-Pets or Digimon Vital Bracelets, since if the appeal for Chao Gardens is that much, they easily could make a device designed to link your Chao to a dedicated trinket for the gameplay and stat building. Maybe even revive the OG Chao Garden from Adventure and blend it with the Tiny Chao Garden of the Advance games, with link-up Chao Karate
@joshuasanderson7359
@joshuasanderson7359 3 ай бұрын
I've literally never seen Shadow fall off the loop in Radical Highway like that. But I only play the Dreamcast version. Wow.
@ghostspider2056
@ghostspider2056 3 ай бұрын
With amount of levels from the Adventure games Generations are remaking, we’re part way there.
@raikojanes5972
@raikojanes5972 2 ай бұрын
idk fam after Sonic Colours Ultimate and Sonic Origins, i'm not sure fans want Adventure remake, UNLESS Sonic X Shadow Generations is really really REALLY damn good, like SHOCKINLY great (i know they're more like ports/remasters then remakes but still)
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 3 ай бұрын
While I would happily settle for just a straight port for the Nintendo switch of Sonic adventure 1 and 2, I would love a from the ground remake of both: this will be their chance to give us a new art style, and heavily update the gameplay
@copingflower1909
@copingflower1909 3 ай бұрын
Since we now have both perfect Chaos, and the biolizard, having a full on Remake could be more possible since Sonic team love to reuse old assets from proior games, and a lot of the work has already been done with Shadow generations
@TheKira708
@TheKira708 3 ай бұрын
That would be amazing the Sonic adventure games had the best storylines in the franchise 💯
@s3studios597
@s3studios597 3 ай бұрын
YES! YES! That cell shaded look is absolutely perfect! That's what the series should be doing. Remakes or no, I want the next Sonic game to look like that, not the same basic 3D look we've had for like a decade.
@ssg-eggunner
@ssg-eggunner 3 ай бұрын
yeah, sonic is not known to have a good history with cel shaded visuals (*sonic 4 flashbacks*) so maybe they can redeem themselves with this one
@KaleBennett
@KaleBennett 3 ай бұрын
My personal hope would be like how it is with Resident Evil 4, where the remake made a lot of major changes, but preserved the heart and identity of the original, as well as having the original still be available on modern consoles so that it wasn't just replaced. Ideally, I would hope the originals would be accessible as all-in-one versions with Dreamcast and Gamecube features. Viewing these remakes as standalone titles without their originals in mine, I think these remakes could strive to make the gameplay styles more enjoyable and polished while preserving their core appeal, add some quality of life improvements like the homing attack reticle, rework the stories to be more in-line with modern standards but still preserving the heart of the originals, and maybe experiment with some original content to lay the groundwork for another Adventure game. I think for the voice acting, bring back as many old actors as you can, and replace whoever you need to while still keeping it close to the originals, like keeping Mike Pollock as Eggman and getting a child actor to play Tails. Sega's probably not brave enough to do this considering it took several years to get any console ports of 3D games, but I would hope the originals are available, both for preservation sake and so that these remakes more so be modern reinterpretations rather than complete replacements.
@retrogamerfan123
@retrogamerfan123 18 күн бұрын
If I was remaking the game I’d give it the toys for bob treatment just touch up the graphics a little bit add in save states and do a bundle pack 1+2 dlc included
@Twilord_
@Twilord_ 3 ай бұрын
Personally, I don't really need an SA2 remake when Shadow Generations is already promising to familiarise new fans eith old ideas.
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 3 ай бұрын
I think one thing that remakes of the Adventure series could benefit from story-wise is a re translation of the dialogue so that it's more accurate to the original Japanese script. A lot of longtime Sonic fans by now have some idea of the many liberties that were taken with the English localization which hurt the context of a lot of scenes. There's also expanding on plot points that were underdeveloped to flesh out the stories of both games more.
@Gnidel
@Gnidel 3 ай бұрын
For me retranslation to be very faithful to Japanese release would hurt nostalgia factor. Some scenes could use some touches in awkward places, but if it was up to me I would strive to keep the old story as faithful to original as possible.
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 3 ай бұрын
​@@Gnidel I'd say make the dialoge make more sense by doing a better translation, but DON'T change the dialoge in SA2 of "I found you Faker!" to "I found you Imposter!"
@ssg-eggunner
@ssg-eggunner 3 ай бұрын
@@Gnidel wasn't the japanese the original version tough?
@Heubee11
@Heubee11 3 ай бұрын
No new spiderman or sonic content this year my guy is fishing for content😂❤️
@ChannelPup
@ChannelPup 3 ай бұрын
We've got Madame Web, Shadow Generations and Sonic 3 this year.
@Heubee11
@Heubee11 3 ай бұрын
@@ChannelPup year of shadow has been way dryer than i expected. And dont associate that movie w spiderman😭 it isnt cannon 😂
@Evixyn
@Evixyn 3 ай бұрын
I would like to have a properly done adventure remake and if is done well and it will sell maybe then we can finally have adventure three.
@Sonic-q6i
@Sonic-q6i 3 ай бұрын
Frontiers looks the way it does because it was made for switch first I'm so tired of hearing about the pop in and it's graphics every time someone brings up frontiers
@ChannelPup
@ChannelPup 3 ай бұрын
Play more switch games.
@Sonic-q6i
@Sonic-q6i 3 ай бұрын
@@ChannelPup I have smash bro's superstars frontiers colors ultimate and played breath of the wild they literally said that frontiers was made for switch first which is why is runs so good and why there's so much pop in
@Sonic-q6i
@Sonic-q6i 3 ай бұрын
Breath of the wild on switch doesn't look like a PS5 game frontiers and it are the same the only thing btw has is more vibrant colors
@joshuasanderson7359
@joshuasanderson7359 3 ай бұрын
As a developer, there are many ways to either hide pop-in and have different thresholds for different platforms. Is it entirely avoidable on Switch? Maybe not. Could they have done a better job at hiding or contextualizing it with effects? Almost certainly.
@joe_mama__
@joe_mama__ 3 ай бұрын
Why does the pop-in also happen on the more powerful hardware? Why is Frontiers uglier than most Switch games?
@CrappyProductionsOfficial
@CrappyProductionsOfficial 3 ай бұрын
honestly, i hope they use the original Dreamcast builds, add back the features from dx and battle, and revamp the cutscenes from SA1.
@multimuf5057
@multimuf5057 3 ай бұрын
If we were to ever see remakes of adventure games, then I'd rather see full on modern remakes, than just re-release with a few fixes and updates. While re-release is good, there's some problems with the games, that can't be fixed without remaking everything from ground up. Older fans will enjoy it through the nostalgia lens, but newer probably won't or at least not all of them. I know I didn't enjoy the second adventure game, even though I adore the first one, so I'm confident, when I say, that re-release will appeal only to a certain part of an audience, remake that stays true to the original is going to be much better if done right.
@zayedmonds9290
@zayedmonds9290 3 ай бұрын
they need to remake the game in my opinion. update the models, redo the gameplay, everything. something more akin to p06 but along the adventure story and closer to the adventure gameplay. but the graphics and everything needs to be overhauled. if people want to play the original adventure games they should and sets should make them available
@andersonsansonowski5644
@andersonsansonowski5644 3 ай бұрын
These days, people seem to forget that the adventure remakes were in production but cancelled in 2014
@MaximumSpider19
@MaximumSpider19 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that was just a rumor, but it's a rumor I could believe. I'm still convinced that we were supposed to get that instead of Sonic Forces but it had to be scrapped do to SEGA losing a lot of money on the exclusivity deal they had with Nintendo, forcing (no pun intended) Sonic Team to develop Forces at the 11th hour.
@AlexEspeon
@AlexEspeon 3 ай бұрын
I think they should remake the game with newer graphics etc but also give the option to have it look like the original games or not that way both sides can be satisfied with the game
@Some_Cat_
@Some_Cat_ 3 ай бұрын
I'm fine with a graphics overhaul/ modernization as long as Sega includes the 128 bit versions as unlockables. Hopefully they don't do anything as dumb as adding boost though.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 ай бұрын
it would be cool for a remake of sonic adventure.
@thecanadianempire8767
@thecanadianempire8767 3 ай бұрын
I think both a Full Remake and a touched up port of the Gamecube Games would be best. But the Remake needs more then what you suggested but the story needs work have it make more sense both SA1&2 have rough stories bogged down by portions of them making no sense that aside Big's Gameplay needs to be fundamentally changed no Fishing maybe leave it as a Minigame but the core gameplay should be like to the others with something unique to big, outside of that i prefer SA1 gameplay over SA2 but i like how SA2 is more focused but way to linear but I wouldn't change that. All and all i would like both a Touched up GC Port and a Full Remake.
@StuckOposum
@StuckOposum 3 ай бұрын
I personally am not against a modern recreation with the new models and voice lines imo, I just want the gameplay to be the same with some touch ups
@joshuasanderson7359
@joshuasanderson7359 3 ай бұрын
I can't find the "pirate king Luigi" videos Pup mentioned. Can anyone help me out? Did I hear the name wrong?
@AdventureShadow2006-lb5qi
@AdventureShadow2006-lb5qi 3 ай бұрын
Yoo looks clean
@Local_Nerd_
@Local_Nerd_ 3 ай бұрын
I honestly don't want remakes at this point because this fan base has made me realize no one is happy with anything SEGA makes because no one is humanly capable of capturing the specific fantasies of Sonic players, lol.
@jskywalker58
@jskywalker58 3 ай бұрын
Whatever man
@SonicTheBlueBlur15
@SonicTheBlueBlur15 3 ай бұрын
Their ready for remakes, all they need is to do them
@szszabolcs9582
@szszabolcs9582 3 ай бұрын
If they start working on SA1 and SA2 remakes right now It should take at least 4 years to perfect
@toastedsquare
@toastedsquare 3 ай бұрын
@@szszabolcs9582 Better get started now then
@joe_mama__
@joe_mama__ 3 ай бұрын
I doubt current Sonic Team would do them justice
@toastedsquare
@toastedsquare 3 ай бұрын
@@joe_mama__ Current Sonic Team isn't the problem
@joe_mama__
@joe_mama__ 3 ай бұрын
@@toastedsquare Why do you think that?
@Ghostofcalmaity
@Ghostofcalmaity Ай бұрын
1.Better graphics 2.Models that are in the same style to the old models but higher poly and better looking in general 3.Same gameplay but with more polish 4.Better cutscenes please 5.Bring on the current voice actors 6.Better character fights These games were good but nostalgia shouldn’t block your vision because these games weren’t perfect they were very good but extremely un-polished and it was a little sourly aged 😭🙏
@Hazel_TheOne
@Hazel_TheOne 3 ай бұрын
So what your saying is... Sega is edging us😭🙏
@rando6677
@rando6677 3 ай бұрын
Pretty much
@HoneyPiss
@HoneyPiss 3 ай бұрын
Pup
@ssg-eggunner
@ssg-eggunner 3 ай бұрын
i feel like all those games need is some fixing on the jank, improvements in game design (less pits, less room for error, among with other modern game design principles), remove the knuckles and rouge exploration stages and big the cat's fishing as for the visual department, i'd like changes just on the animations to make them look less jank, specially in adventure 2 if they do change artstyle tough, i'd like for them to merge unleashed style with the style of the respective games (for example, sonic would have the exact same proportions as he did in dreamcast SA1 but with the materials of Unleashed)
@jackko21
@jackko21 3 ай бұрын
and for humans, go with the anime look like Sonic x
@33pandagamer
@33pandagamer 3 ай бұрын
Sonic Generations already had a Biolizard boss fight before they made Sonic X Shadow Generations.
@PlatformPanic8369
@PlatformPanic8369 3 ай бұрын
I feel like they should test the waters by making a sort of adventure three without actually calling it sonic adventure three and then see what people think of that.
@dillonmalbrue4179
@dillonmalbrue4179 3 ай бұрын
Hot Take here: A Sonic 06 remake is needed more before the Sonic Adventure duology gets its own remake
@AccelerateHedge
@AccelerateHedge 3 ай бұрын
6:43 Correction: BetterSADX is an outdated mod installer that installs pre-existing mods that restore the game to its Dreamcast counterpart (along with a few other quality of life tweaks, if you want them). It is not a mod on its own. It really bothers the SADX and SADC modding community leaders when they hear this, lol.
@Kiezly
@Kiezly 3 ай бұрын
Channel pup, I think the most responsible and smartest option would be for Sega to remaster all the remaining hedgehog engine (HE1+HE2) games before they tackle anything made before 2008. The current sonic team is way too used to working with hedgehog engines so they will be far more competent and skilled at just remastering unleashed, Lost World, forces, and frontiers. And the benefit to doing that first is that they will run out of hedgehog engine games to remaster so they will be literally forced to work on games made before hedgehog engine was created. Like SA1-S06. And they can have a side team work on remastering or remaking all the portable games like the advance trilogy and battle and pinball party and Rush trilogy and rivals 1 & rivals 2. Preferably using the retro engine, or something similar to it.
@ChibiSteak
@ChibiSteak 3 ай бұрын
21:58 fin.
@alescano3504
@alescano3504 3 ай бұрын
The Adventure games DON'T need remakes. They are good games that play well, look beautiful and have a great story. Remake culture is cringe, toxic and stupid, because remakes should be for bad games, like P-06 or Ninja Gaiden 3. Keep the good elements of the poorly made game, fix the mistakes. But no need to remake good games
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps, but honestly I'd like a remake, as with especially SA1, it has literally been a spiral that goes downwards from the original Dreamcast since every rerelease made more glitches, and expecting people to just either be cool with getting a Dreamcast in the modern day or emulate, or even mod the official rerelease of the game, isn't ideal for trying to sell people on the game SA2, I can see the argument for, but I also know that many would want some quality of life improvements or have had grievances since Day One of SA2 back on the Dreamcast, such as the Treasure Hunter Radar. And a remake of the Adventure Games would be cool to have, since besides potential QoL Improvements, Sonic Team could remake the Chao Garden with online support, potential linkings to Apps that Sega themselves could support so you can recreate the SA1/2 style of a Chao being taken care of on the go, whether it be the VMU style with a V-Pet RPG mechanic, or the Advance Duology Tiny Chao Garden (I say Duology only because 3 lacks the T.C.G.)
@alescano3504
@alescano3504 3 ай бұрын
@@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity I agree that those would be good things, bit those things could easily be covered with a port. Just a faithful port of the Dreamcast games with those improvements (as you said, there are mods that do all those things already). But no remakes
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity 3 ай бұрын
@@alescano3504 Except that Sega's showcasing of ports have been shoddy at best, or outsourced to a company that worsens the game as a result at worst. Sega almost NEVER incorporates gameplay fixes with mods in their ports, otherwise we wouldn't have needed to have the SADX mods to literally reform the steam version to a 2004 version to begin with, and attempts at a faithful port have had only one real winner in that regard with SA2 exclusively. I understand the disdain one can carry towards remake culture, but honestly I'd welcome a ground-up remake at this point for SA1 and SA2 rather than insisting things are fine when the most accessible version is a buggy mess that practically exists as a entry-level course for how to use mod loaders for PC users.
@alescano3504
@alescano3504 3 ай бұрын
@@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity So, you said yourself the solution. You make decent ports. It is not that hard. If fans can fix the deficient ports, then SEGA can too. The thing is that they are lazy if the thing is going to sell anyway. But if you do a decent port, you let the people experience two amazing games in their full glory. You are selling games that don't need fixing. They are good games. As you said, if you want, QoL. Nothing more. With a remake, you will not have some aspects of the game botched. You will have all of them botched. I doubt they know how to do good level design and proper physics. Oh, i forgot. You can avoid all those problems by just releasing a decent port, idk if i made it clear at this point
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity
@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity 3 ай бұрын
@@alescano3504 Except with Sonic Ports, they're just as botched as the remakes you insist upon, and Sega and Sonic Team have proven more often than not that full-on porting has caused many a glitch. Even now with SxSG, where half of the game is already readily available with a PC edition, Sega somehow botched it on the porting with things such as grass coloring and the handling of the shadows. And Sonic Team also proved to show aspects of greedy practices even on porting that would make the remake culture go "We aren't so different after all". Sonic Adventure 2 sold its Battle version as DLC you had to pay for in order to get the full game's content, not unlike On-Disc DLC practices. Sonic Origins axed the entirety of the Steam Selections, and even though they went in to make changes to get graphical fixes in, there're still notable differences that people will insist that these are not good ports of the classics, not to mention Origins Plus even choosing the worst version of some of the games they ported, like the 8-bit Sonic Games that were released on the SMS, yet they chose the Game Gear version. This is also assuming that we are being fair about pricing, as well, as we know Sega would still charge $50 USD base for the games in this day and age, and then also charge for SA2 to get the Battle Multiplayer, just like they did back with the HD rerelease. At the current modern gaming industry's state of being, I would much rather not pay for just another port, and no amount of Quality of Life fixes actively would make the experience ever worth it instead of just going all in on a Remake which would at least warrant a worthwhile investment. You will not convince me otherwise, and the more we argue this, the more we waste time on this. Call me petty, call me a dog of remake culture, but porting culture is just as problematic since it's just as much built on an elitist mentality that insists nothing now in terms of takes on what was in the past is ever good and just being given the same thing over and over again but showing its original state over and over again is just as bad as the idea that something good then and now needs to just be remade to appeal to the mass market's current tastes.
@gtbspacerondo
@gtbspacerondo 3 ай бұрын
True , they could remake sa1 like how they did gta remaster
@tamijahx2
@tamijahx2 3 ай бұрын
sonic adventure remakes for modern consoles, ports for mobile and switch
@33pandagamer
@33pandagamer 3 ай бұрын
I think that Sonic Adventure desperately needs to be reanimated. The current animations make it hard to focus on the story.
@brianlaureus
@brianlaureus 3 ай бұрын
I’m gonna be honest sometimes I Think these videos are out just out of touch. Not trying to hate everyone’s entitled to their own opinion and if you want a rerelease you want a rerelease that’s you choice but a lot of what he’s listing is stuff they’d probably just do in a full on remake anyway. I don’t see them going in and adding extra skins or alternate customs for a simple rerelease. If they do a rerelease at all it’d probably be something along the lines of what they’ve done in the past for ps3 and Xbox 360. Just dropping those on to the newest consoles. It’s all basically just a port he’s talking about. Just with a few bells and whistles, I think they should just do a remake from the ground up I think it’s the best option and to promote the remakes they can drop ports of the old games,That way it’s a win win for everyone.
@jackko21
@jackko21 3 ай бұрын
id say retranslate the scripts for the games to be more accurate to the japanese scripts like what windii does get ryan drummond back
@joshuasanderson7359
@joshuasanderson7359 3 ай бұрын
Ryan would do it for sure, if offered the chance.
@zackchaozmaster
@zackchaozmaster 3 ай бұрын
remake or sa3 have the chao playable in the mini games and a 3rd one even if I don't know what that 3rd one is.
@gigasnail_
@gigasnail_ Ай бұрын
Please watch ruby of blues sonic adventure remake video I basically outlines everything I want from an sa1 remake
@taecampus
@taecampus 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know his intro song? 🎶 🎵
@loquendero-vi5sp
@loquendero-vi5sp 3 ай бұрын
Takashi Lizuka said they will check what the players want next, just like they did with Generations (which I think is bs because no one asked for that, everyone is definitely more eager to have SA1&2 remakes, and also for the Unleashed remaster
@Sonicjohnathon
@Sonicjohnathon 3 ай бұрын
I find it funny that Sega will use something like Unity for Sonic Superstars and their Super Monkey Ball games but won't use Unreal engine for the next main line Sonic game or for Sonic X Shadow Generations I mean Sonic fan games look a million times better than Sonic Forces and Frontiers and I don't know weather to find that funny or sad
@innocentzbat
@innocentzbat 3 ай бұрын
Idc abt the voice acting as long as the direction is good (they need a lot of work), but I want the game to feel smooth and polished like the originals. Frontiers had really stiff turning and jumping underneath the decent turning (outside Cyber Space), Shadow Generations looks a bit better with its turning radius but it's still a boost moveset with issues (quick step overshoots every time) Also, NEW CHAO TYPES AND ANIMALS PLEASE
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 3 ай бұрын
For an Adventure 2 remake, they could cover Amy's part of the story. How she made it to Prison Island and to Sonic's cell.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 3 ай бұрын
As long as we don't have to play as her, I don't miss not being able to turn, attack, jump or walk up a 1 degree incline without coming to a halt, the fact people call her fun and Big the Cat in the first game "bad" because they suck at his gameplay is unreal.
@Sonic-q6i
@Sonic-q6i 3 ай бұрын
Remakes need to happen in 2/0/2/6 but I need ports right now this year
@rubydragoon720
@rubydragoon720 3 ай бұрын
I think they should go full FF7 Remake, every generation should be allowed to have their own "first time" like Their first time I don't think should be what Our first time was, Remaking them would give them the opportunity to bring the old story to life with a more Modern continuity.
@PayForViewsJST
@PayForViewsJST 3 ай бұрын
I don't want the extreme I don't just want a remake or a simple port it needs to be this big deal this not heroes or the storybook games were I can take it or leave it this sonic big true jump in to 3D the best adoption of the classic formula in a 3D game to date. This not just about a sonic game but Sega last hooray in the console market with sonic adventure 2. Much like sonic x shadow generations I want a deliberate attempt of remaking the dreamcast models instead of using the modern models, even unleash model will not suffice! I want them to make it if the dreamcast release in modern day with hardware improvements but kept the same low poly art-style like Bomb Rush cyberpunk or big catch fishing same with a Saturn game if nights into dreams were remade today I want them to keep the Saturn look with 60FPS high resolution with deliberate art and limitations of the old in mind like textured eyes on the model.
@gregtom3272
@gregtom3272 3 ай бұрын
i have but few requests for sonic adventure remakes, just don't make big the cat important to finish the game, it can be so tedious and annoying and , also PLEASE, give tails and knuckles the spin dash, and make it faster to charge in SA2, while give sonic, shadow and knuckles the roll ability that tails and knuckles has in SA1 when pressing spin dash button without keeping pressing it, also make shooting game play in SA2 a little bit faster one more thing channel pup, is that there is a fan game named as Sonic World DX, desspit how janky that game is, yet it did a FANTASTIC job refning so many characters to be their own play styles while being fast, EVEN characters like Silver, Blaze, Rouge, Espio, Mighty and Cream are SO FUN TO play, you're seriously missing out if you're not playing this game, and how fantastic its refining different stages from previous sonic games, nearly to feel like new levels like how Mania did but mostly for 3D sonic games, and if you could , PLEASE, make a video on "Sonic World DX", it could give you a new outlook on how to make sonic adventure remakes, there is so much passion that went behind this game
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 3 ай бұрын
Tails' mech sucks now??? It's just very flyable lol
@KumoriGatchi
@KumoriGatchi 3 ай бұрын
i want them to embrace the y2k frutiger aero art style but knowing sega they'll definitely go with their bland ass overly sanitized modern art style lmao
@ChannelPup
@ChannelPup 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It's such a great aesthetic.
@AIRSO97
@AIRSO97 3 ай бұрын
The piratekingluigi Yuji Uekawa art style idea is genius. That would solve so many aesthetic dilemmas that come with bringing the game up to “modern graphic standards”
@Reece249
@Reece249 3 ай бұрын
I think remake would benefit these games. As a lot of people overlook stories of these games as not presented the best. These are some best story's told in Sonic franchise. If they touched cutscenes up could see people appreciating both games story's a lot more. Gameplay is where it's tricky for Sonic team tbh
@johnsantos507
@johnsantos507 3 ай бұрын
How about impossible.
@lucas8744
@lucas8744 3 ай бұрын
hi
@foxmccloudizsexy
@foxmccloudizsexy 3 ай бұрын
Hi
@biko6158
@biko6158 3 ай бұрын
I know it will nEver happen, but I wish Sega would just ditch Nintendo and make games that aren't held back by the Switch
@testdropz8061
@testdropz8061 3 ай бұрын
Well the switch is about to be replaced so we probably only have a few more years of sonic games on switch
@szszabolcs9582
@szszabolcs9582 3 ай бұрын
Yeah maybe Nintendo goes crazy and make a console that has the spirit of the Switch, but also the capabilities of other consoles Also ditching Nintendo would practicly kill Sonic since 70% of the Sonic players use a Switch And Sonic is already a little behind So it would have a similar impact to a bad Sonic game on top of the disadventage
@jskywalker58
@jskywalker58 3 ай бұрын
Or they should try going with a cel shaded artstyle
@theplaylistchannel6300
@theplaylistchannel6300 2 ай бұрын
I hate modern sonic it looks terrible if they dont bring back the momentum physics from the Sonic Adventure games i dont care
@ryananthony2869
@ryananthony2869 3 ай бұрын
When I heard the idea of the retro remake,I thought of the Klonoa remakes where they're the exact same games,just with little touch ups and improvements with nothing major. I think that either the revised or retro options would be best since if Sega can't properly remaster Colors,who knows how they'll screw up full on remakes? One more thing,do you know what will be a perfect extra for the remakes?Having an option to have the dialogue like Garrett Williamson's lip reading videos where he matches the lip movements,having it just sound like gibberish.
@andersonsansonowski5644
@andersonsansonowski5644 3 ай бұрын
There bet money in the fact that if these remakes come out they will have the drop dash
@Willythebear2
@Willythebear2 3 ай бұрын
Their is only one way we can do a SA1-2 remake hire fucking fans
@airfryerkun
@airfryerkun 3 ай бұрын
i mean you missed out the best option, that being a graphical overhaul while keeping the aethetics of the games.
@endamcnabola
@endamcnabola 3 ай бұрын
Either any of that or perhaps a Sonic Adventure 3 or sequel to Frontiers.
@bambamsplinters279
@bambamsplinters279 3 ай бұрын
I think remakes will happen after generations and unleashed and Sega sees all the money, I be just assuming they'll do unleashed but it's the same engine as generations
@MasterJazz09
@MasterJazz09 3 ай бұрын
Yeah no the first argument is terrible lol We will take the ground up remake we don't want the same game AGAIN with slight upgrades want the full remake Everything else is a nonsense argument if you don't Wana loose all the jank and nonsense you speak of then play the original it will still exist
@SaiyanHajime
@SaiyanHajime 3 ай бұрын
totally agree with the just LET me play them on Switch in bed please I beg you SEGA. Even if it's the broken versions. I don't even care at this point.
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