Sonic and Shadow VS Seelkadoom (pivot sprite battle)

[@BurnTH]

Okay, since I already got some comments about nerfed Seelkadoom, I'll duplicate my response. When I'm doing something, I don't care about canon power scaling or something, I just do what I like and how I like. If I want to make a character weaker or stronger for the toe-to-toe battle, I'll do it. I don't find interesting to make a battle only in Super Forms and have an OP character that can one shot others in their base. You may think, that it's not Seelkadoom weaker, it Sonic and Shadow got stronger for the balance purpose.

[@springyl1]

I mean in technical terms the sonic in the original game selkadoom is introduced is fan made. And the sonic and shadow are completely different from what you might use. So people complaining makes no sense lol

[@paurjuisjtn7880]

Bruh the amount of people who wouldn’t agree

[@mikon-j3f]

I totally agree with you

[@stephencarlton-jones7119]

Well, narratively it actually makes sense, Sonic characters grow stronger over time. And based on this depiction, Base Sonic and Shadow are where there Super forms were before (since they could push back on Seelkadoom), and also why there collective Hyper forms were stronger than Apex Seelkadoom this time around

[@SoullessAura]

In my honest opinion dude the way you edit your stuff I told you this before on your other videos I love how you do it and if people really want to come with that Cannon stuff technically Sonic and Shadow wouldn't be sitting around doing nothing so in reality they would literally get strong enough to withstand the attacks of Seelkadoom, also if they really want to get technical remember this Sonic fan boys Seelkadoom is a creation of Sonic and Shadow so in actuality they should be on the same playing field when they both fuse, and by Sonic and Shadow teaming up together give them a better edge than them fighting by themselves like they did in the games, but in reality the only reason why he had the edge over Sonic and Shadow in the original is because he had all the Chaos emeralds beforehand as for Sonic and Shadow they have to do without so in reality if they all have possession of Chaos emeralds they would be equals.

[@TheRobloxianBeatSabertist]

I really love how fast paced this animation is. Like it’d actually fighting from their perspective instead of a regular DB kicks and punches here and there. This time it’s move-sets being used at a different speed.

[@Electro777]

You're Improving so much! I love these new Camera Angles you're trying out, and I like how the story connects together. This has to be my favorite one so far, keep up the great work and well done!

[@pick414]

Hey electro777 long time no see

[@woodanimator]

This is without a doubt one of your best animations, this animation is very well done, this animation has to get at least 1 million views lol

[@BurnTH]

Thanks! That would be awesome.

[@raringrph1560]

Man you’ve improved so much! Was definitely worth the wait, take your time with your next upload and don’t let anyone rush you 😁

[@Sh4d1c4l]

Improved at such an alarming rate! Absolutely incredible!

[@SuperSaiyawolf]

Sonic at 0:36: "Leave it to me!" *Gets bodied by Seelkadoom.* Shadow at 0:39: "Just leave it to me..." *Actually gets a few good hits on Seelkadoom.*

[@raringrph1560]

XD, Sonic’s a goofball sometimes lol, I won’t front tho Shadow nailed some good combos on him

[@agentomecha634]

I don’t really understand why people think Seelkdoom has been nerfed. In Sonic RPG, he always had the Chaos Emeralds with him so he was always going to be able to overwhelm Sonic and Shadow. However, now all three of the hedgehogs have access to the Chaos Emeralds so it’s going to be a much more even fight. Plus, most cases, sprite animations aren’t meant to be watched for accuracy. It’s always going to boil down to what and how the creator prefers or wants the animation to play out.

[@Sakuyaizayoi1238]

I will make it accurate I know seelkadoom is stronger than base and super so he would be on par with hyper in base seelkadoom

[@danielh.3098]

It is not that Seelkadoom has been nerfed. I'd wager that he was just playing around when Sonic and Shadow is still in normal form, I'd say about 3 to 5% of his power before Sonic and Shadow turn super.

[@gogetathedripgod1928]

I've always wondered how it would be for someone like seelkadoom to have a hyper form and I must say it's pretty nice despite the small differences from his regular super form. Overall nice sprite animation

[@gogetathedripgod1928]

@Sonic gaming Kirby fan 2005 v2 Bet

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Isn't Apex Seelkdoom his version if he went Hyper form?

[@An_edgyy_name69]

@@Omega-jg4oq Canonicaly yes

[@BurnTH]

@@Omega-jg4oq Apex is his Super Form, isn't it?

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@BurnTH well, his base form already looks like his super form like he can fly and stronger than both Super Sonic and Super Shadow, plus he absorbed the negative energy of the Choas Emeralds, Apex is equal or stronger than Hyper Sonic.. So..

[@rjay9680]

You’re totally right, it’s your work but i have to say i find this scaling of power levels pretty realistic. Cause if someone knows Sonic RPG 1 you see that Eggman himself used DNA of Sonic and Shadow so he is Sonic and Shadow, So this animation is the perfect power level scaling of how it should be

[@univerex-8061]

This was a fantastic animation! It makes sense that Apex Seelkadoom could semi-hold his own against two Hypers, and also that Supreme Seelkadoom is roughly on par with Hyper Shadic. :)

[@SSSTUDIOS365]

@Sonic gaming Kirby fan 2005 v2 not just that. He IS Shadic... just evil.

[@SSSTUDIOS365]

@Sonic gaming Kirby fan 2005 v2 Fax bro. Still tho, can't wait to see Shadic vs Seelkadoom vs Nazo.

[@SSSTUDIOS365]

@Sonic gaming Kirby fan 2005 v2 Fusion Rumble!

[@abdalsamadbabar3627]

@Sonic gaming Kirby fan 2005 v2 Seelkadoom is far above Shadic especially in hyper.

[@ShermanYeo]

@@abdalsamadbabar3627 Nah, they are roughly equal in terms of Hyper Forms.

[@SpecialFunWorld]

Wwooooww! This animation was just so awesome, epic and amazing! 🤩 It's very clear you put a lot of time and effort into this! Well done! The animation was a thrill to watch! 😊💙

[@ShermanYeo]

Damn! Now that is an awesome battle between Super Hedgehogs! Hell, I saw Supreme Seelkadoom is now roughly equal to Hyper Shadic, imagine they go all out without Nazo interfering, they will go out either way or a tie. First on how Sonic and Shadow can somewhat handle Seelkadoom in base, keeping up with the fight a little bit, which doesn't end too well, then they had to go Super on him. And seeing how it makes sense how Super Sonic and Shadow can now make some dents into Base Seelkadoom, but roughly any when Seelkadoom went Apex (His Super Form) on them. Now as they went Hyper, they go all beating double-combo on his ass until Supreme Seelkadoom comes in and does the same to them, so badly that now Shaidc has to come in to play. As the fight goes on, Both of them are now too powerful as Hyper that they are now equal in terms of how far they had grown to the last time they fought. (Not Shadic since last time since Sonic RPG ep.10) Now as they are about to go all out in that fist-clash, Nazo (Who had somehow survived his fight against Supreme Seelkadoom) came into the fray in his Hyper Perfect Form, ready to square up against the people that whooped his ass the last time. Now I can't wait for a 3 way battle between the Good Fused Hedgehogs vs a Hedgehog who is the living Negative Energy of the Chaos Emeralds vs a Hedgehog who is made with the genetic battle data of both Sonic and Shadow with a god complex (who is an Evil Shadic in a way). :D

[@SuperSaiyawolf]

🤓 Read the comment that the creator of the video posted.

[@ShermanYeo]

​@@SuperSaiyawolfI did, just putting my thoughts in. Xd

[@Al-AmeenAdewunmi]

Oh damn bro, I wasn't expecting this animation to drop. Well, I don't really need to say that this was a banger as usual, but I feel like doing it anyway. I mean, it's Seelkadoom. I always gotta give em praise where it's due. I do have a couple questions though: 1. Can you explain the powerscaling to me? Cause uh, we all know that realistically base Sonic and Shadow would not be able to touch base Seelkadoom at all, especially since he has the Emeralds with him. And considering you had Supreme Seelkadoom beat Hyper Perfect Nazo, how come he didn't easily stomp Hyper Shadic? 2. You mind sharing the Seelkadoom voice lines you used here? They could be useful.

[@BurnTH]

I've buffed Sonic and Shadow a bit for the balance purpose. Don't really like the idea of battles only with transformations. So, Hyper Shadic is perfectly equal to Supreme Seelkadoom, and they both stronger than Hyper Nazo. Sure, why not. I'll drop it on google drive a bit later.

[@Al-AmeenAdewunmi]

@@BurnTH But if we know Nazo is weaker than both Shadic and Seelkadoom, then how's he gonna fare against them? Is he gonna pull out Chaos Nazo or something?

[@BurnTH]

@@Al-AmeenAdewunmi 🤫

[@BurnTH]

drive.google.com/file/d/1AURxdEAwn50GBxsD8CO_3iLhIP0g6OPa/view?usp=sharing The voice clips of Seelkadoom that I have btw

[@univerex-8061]

@@Al-AmeenAdewunmi Hyper Perfect Nazo isn’t necessarily weaker to Shadic to that great of a degree, because in the original Nazo Unleashed movie we saw that him in his Hyper Perfect form was able to dish out attacks against Hyper Shadic and briefly get upper hands. Even at the end when Hyper Shadic restabilized his power with a billion rings, Hyper Perfect Nazo was still going to overwhelm him in the beam/energy ball struggle and eventually kill him if not for Super Knuckles and Tails. So I’m sure he’d be able to hold his own in a free for all against Hyper Shadic and Supreme Seelkadoom at least for a while.

[@KaruSnep]

Think we can all agree that back in the day a lot of our "original" sonic characters were just shadow with blue stripes.

[@1_alanderman96]

Man, Seelkadoom is too powerful! He's really unbeatable like the other villains from Sonic fan games and animations. By the way, excellent animation ;-)

[@khari3477]

2:24 is the coolest moment in this whole animation. Its so well done with the music being in sync too lol

[@정지원-k4d]

sonic&shadow vs seelkadom 0:36 normal vs normal 1:36 super vs normal 2:25 super vs apex 3:46 hyper vs apex 4:45 hyper vs supreme 6:00 hyper shadic vs supreme

[@plagueis9794]

This is probably the best animation that you've done. It's nice to see Hyper Shadic in fight with Supreme Seelkadoom. Great work! Also we all had to suppose that Nazo survived after his fight with Seelkadoom. It will be interesting to see Nazo vs Shadic ve Seelkadoom. P.S: And I also don't understand why everyone complain on power scaling at that video....

[@XYZerin]

honestly i prefer this style of camera than what you usually do.

[@BurnTH]

Me too! It actually really comfortable to work with it.

[@tommytran6111]

Awesome video man and I'm actually suprised that nazo survive his battle against seelkadoom from the last video oohh this is getting good can't wait to see the next one burnTH good luck!

[@ghostlywolf4302]

... WHAT? Nazo is alive!? The next animation is gonna be Fire

[@worldsfunniestvideosandbes3684]

The problem just quadrupled in size.

[@pick414]

Awesome bro, base seelkadoom is stronger than super sonic and super shadow but power scaling doesnt matter I just wanna see the next part :D

[@no_matter.]

No! He does not have a specific level of power, as he is not a canonical character. It will be whatever the animator wants it to be. He wants to be at Amy's level, he wants to be stronger than Sonic and Shadow. It's just not real, it's a fiction.

[@CaulolProductions]

@@no_matter. but he still is sonic rpg seelkadoom, so he should be super shadic level still, but the hedgehog got stronger tho

[@uissj4128]

Me too

[@waterbottlecupcan4026]

If you remeber sonic rpg has what they call a chaos boost. Shadow got weaker after he lost his chaos emerald, Seelkadoom got stronger than super because he already had all 7. In one of the episodes he lost just to super sonic alone.

[@An_edgyy_name69]

@@waterbottlecupcan4026 someone actually doing research

[@ages2001]

You earned my respect again, my dude! Amazing battle and I loved dialogs!!!

[@Hyper_Shadix]

I love the adventure 2 poses 3:47

[@Country_ball10]

I remember watching this channel a year ago on a different account and I’m happy I found it again,also this fight was epic I see some improvements

[@jayjalloh3631]

This came out amazing. *Subbed*

[@raringrph1560]

3:47 Omg, upon revisiting this animation again, I just noticed if paused precisely at this frame, the duo are doing their respective poses, with Sonic’s pose being from SA 1 and Shadow’s from SA 2, nice attention to detail right there, I’m quite mad I never caught wind of this at first sight 😅

[@BurnTH]

They are both from SA 2 actually.

[@lamontaepoke7411]

Nazo was an tough opponent they face, now wonder how they'll handle seelkadoom

[@maux9175]

There’s something I just love about when they went super, it may not have been entirely in their favour but they weren’t the same as last time, not by much…but they could definitely HURT

[@stephencarlton-jones7119]

Awesome animation. I wonder how the addition of Nazo to the mix will change things… imagine if Chaos Nazo makes an appearance.

[@paurjuisjtn7880]

I’ve waited far to long for this nice one man also and this might get me hate but 2nd

[@paurjuisjtn7880]

Also u used capcut for some of the writing I think

[@Vergil-f2y]

Amazing and hard work man good luck with future projects)

[@xierno5093]

I need to stop at 2minute to post a comment cause THIS IS AWESOME!!!!! That’s all a Sonic fan can ask

[@AmphotericcMike]

When a sprite animator gets shadows personality more right then the actual game writers:

[@robensmonteau161]

Boy, Hyper Shadic better go full power, cause he's a dead man if he doesn't. Power scaling aside, great animation.

[@maazahmedmorvaniya610]

The attacks are super fast and your.. AMAZING!

[@maazahmedmorvaniya610]

Vedio amazing

[@JEAFlashSword]

Long Time that i did not seen a canon seelkadoom fight very well done!

[@AlbinoTheHedgehog]

Longtime no see mekoel!! Awesome animation

[@SuperSaiyawolf]

After the second part, I find this all to be a brotherly training session, and nothing more. LOL

[@Whitedead209]

Estoy tan emocionado por ver la continuacion y desenlace de esta historia amo todo de la animacion en sonido los efectos y la evolucion que fue obteniendo felicidades eres genial hermano

[@김어진-b4w]

네🎉

[@ivanwarchaosboyhero]

Wow, that was cool, nice work man.

[@jeikobchalco1851]

I congratulate you for being the second best sprite animator 😀

[@Jnr2OO7]

BurnTH this is one of your best animation 👍

[@SoullessAura]

OMG IT'S EVERYTHING I ASK FOR!!!! YOU'RE THE BEST BRO!!!!

[@oscarvaldovinos6597]

we will always remember the name of the channel with which we always become familiar: Mekhoel good animation bro.

[@divineflamesanimations3154]

Okay I like That ending!

[@danielh.3098]

I like the tension at 2:12 the rush and bgm are so hi-tension.

[@alissonprowebswing3207]

WHAT A OUTSTANDING ANIMATION! Say i Would love to see Blaze, Hope one day you can make a animation with her

[@MegaFireExplosionProductio1008]

Awsome sprite battle dude😁

[@finishtheassassin8597]

I was waiting so long for the video. I also subscribed

[@antoniosmith7775]

1000/100 piece this battle was epic especially when Nazo makes his dramatic entrance

[@plagueis9794]

4:17 Seelkadoom: Why won't you die!? Sonic and Shadow: Hyper form, son...

[@deandrecampbell2445]

Reference from mgr

[@quashaunlawson3614]

I feel like seelkadoom's negative energy is about twice as strong than the protagonists positive energym

[@MansurPG]

dam ... how did you did this effects??? . animation is awesom!

[@charsonic1771]

This was an awesome showdown and I like the animation so I wonder what’s going to happen next

[@gachaanime2121]

Ура легенда вернулась, анимация как всегда топ

[@relampagomcqueen9993]

Nice video of Sonic and Shadow

[@fdzs]

Всего то пришлось подождать 5 лет чтобы эта идея воплотилась настолько ахуенно, ахаха

[@SuperBlueice234]

How did nazo survive seelkadoom's explosion but the animation looks sick and awesome I'm not gonna lie

[@andrei3436]

If this doesnt end up with a continuation havin a 3-way battle between them all, imma be sad xD

[@abdalsamadbabar3627]

I dont care about the power level this animation is AMAZING

[@neuro1996]

I like the speed in action makes it more exciting compared to the slow motion sprite animation people be doing nowadays. Its nothing wrong with em its just that it feels slow. While in this one you can hardly keep up with the movement emphasize the level of power and speed that they are fighting at

[@Zane_Gaming45]

Once Again The Legend never Cease To Surprise Me :)

[@davesgamerworld]

Congrats On This Battle😎

[@9s420]

Camera is too close, I can barely tell what's going on- but when I can, it's really cool

[@Starfall_abyss]

nice! your animations are loads of times better!! hope I could have that ability of work lol

[@zephyr4494]

Facts: seelkadoom doesnt have the emeralds anymore, while he had them a the time in the rpg series. So its obvious he's nerfed

[@anacristinaleite1412]

The animation is on par with dedgrafic's animation, but i preffer ded cu'z your animation is too fast to process + the camera is always too close. Aside from that, loved this animation. (Never seen a animation of yours)

[@sonicbattleplayer5762]

On par with DedGrafic? Not even close.

[@canzup8732]

When you return from your hiatus do you think you could make a tutorial on how you make your animations?

[@marcusgrant9234]

Damn this fight is amazing never though seelkadoom can keep with a fusion and now nazo the epic battle begin

[@tyricksly9595]

That awesome I love this sprite battle

[@abdalsamadbabar3627]

How powerful would Hyper shadow w/o rings would be against Apex or Supreme Seelkadoom?

[@melvinekandjo1884]

This looks so awesome

[@thechubbyprotaganist]

Even though I'm lowkey now satisfied with the combat in frontiers...I STILL wish we had combat like this bro...like god damnit. This is FIRE

[@maux9175]

Well with DB Sparking Zero around the corner, we could see some sick mods? And we know how insane people got with Budokai Tenkaichi 3

[@fungus8714]

really love this animation keep it up

[@TotskuyaKurogane]

1:00 love the final fantasy sonic easter egg there.

[@sytrixmisterikz]

NAZO IS BACK?!?!!?!

[@worldsfunniestvideosandbes3684]

Tri-way battle mode engaged. Also the problems just quadrupled in size.

[@snicth_hedgehog2657]

Perfct Hyper Nazo 😱😱😱 Prt 1: 😎🌩 Prt2 : 💀💀💀😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥

[@cjeyybates2095]

Are u gonna have them all fight each other in a 3-way battle or have shadic & nazo(or seelkadoom)temporarily join forces to destroy the other?I think that either one would be great!

[@andreassanity1582]

I love how you used the GBF Wings of Terror aka Proto Bahamuts theme Anyways... *REBIRTH AND DESTRUCTION, HERE AT MY COMMAND!* *REBIRTH AND DESTRUCTION, AGAIN AND AGAIN!* I love the amount of gbf ost

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

danganronpa music wow

[@anthonybethea5503]

Yoooooooooo!!! HES BACK

[@firesonicandroid1760]

100/100 begin to amazing work

[@ExpiredPorridge]

some cool moves shown, but i do think with how fast everything is theres a certain lack of.. dramatic flair or timing to it

[@elcatadordeteoriaszgtafs2772]

Tienes muy buena habilidad en la animación, te recomendaría solo tratar de planificar un poco mejor las peleas, ya que así, iras haciendo una estructura y podrás hacer animaciones más dinámicas, usando más del escenario o algunos efectos o tempos

[@simplestay9181]

can you make part 2

[@the_man_you_have_searched_for]

He's returned!!!

[@clocksgoticktock689]

I like the idea of seelkadoom being on par or slightly weaker or stronger with Sonic and shadows super forms

[@chaoticdragons9990]

Ok, yup. Subscribed for life.

[@billanimation5338]

You finally back

[@onudabitirin26]

oh, be careful, everyone has their own universe, don't confuse the universes, my friend😁

[@Emiliano025]

You missed dark super sonic

[@danielh.3098]

Man, if only the whole sonic rpg games could get a remake like @BurnTH animations, it would be so EPIC.

[@mikon-j3f]

my god how do you make the camera so moved in pivot? you are definitely admirable

[@bluejacket242]

The Long-Waited Rematch! Will Sonic and Shadow defeat Seelkadoom this time?

[@bardock2469]

Awezome animation👍👍👍

[@UltimateSonicEdits]

This is a cool video

[@jayjayplyz3942]

I love the Jason Griffin voice lines of Sonic ❤

[@superhydra8873]

People always overstate seelkadooms power, it was literally stated in the game and by the creators that seelkadoom was only super powerful because he used the chaos emeralds while sonic and shadow couldn't Outside that his powers are super unstable and inconsistent

[@superhydra8873]

@Bullz Infinity show me where it was stated We also have Seelkadoom room LITERALLY STATING IT HIMSELF IN EP 9