Sonic Generations Bonus Video (Cut Content and More)

[@Cifesk]

To all new viewers: This video will be remade in the coming months along with a few others, covering everything that was in this video as well as a lot more content that was looked over / discovered since. Stay tuned for it!

[@ItsMeChair1]

Will it mention Sonic X Shadow Generations?

[@gengargamer5657]

Fun Fact: The unused SA1 1-up jingle was used in SA2 for when you unlock stuff like the extra karts and Green Hill,

[@sollato0293]

To bring some correction, this « third Sonic » representing the Dreamcast era is false. Ryan was indeed called by Sega, but to voice Modern Sonic after the 4kids contract ended, the reason he said Generations and not Colors is probably because Gens was the big game which Sega put a lot of focus on (that and production for Generations started before Colors).

[@charmyzard]

I didn't realize that could be the case 'till you brought it up. Can you cite a specific source to spread it around?

[@yoshihammerbro435]

I mean it does seem a bit weird that supposedly the whole structure of the game would change just because of one voice actor.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

It’s half false, half true. Generations had 9 stages representing the three eras of Sonic at the time (Genesis, Dreamcast, and the then Modern games), but you can only play as two Sonics. On top of that, Modern Sonic gets 4 rival battles/boss fights while Classic Sonic gets 2, and Perfect Chaos is the only boss who’s not an Eggman, so it’s more likely Dreamcast Sonic was planned to be in the game, but was cut halfway through development… which would’ve explained why Generations’ story is kinda weak.

[@lpfan4491]

2:11 Actually, wait. *looks up* Yo, this is about Sonic's first cameo-appearance! The original japanese release of Rad Mobile was in 1990. 4:33 Most likely meant to play during the Meteor Smash, as it is easier to just put that part of the theme as a seperate bit, instead of trying to correctly set more complex internal instructions with it being in the same audiotrack. 5:33 Reference towards Shadow the Hedgehog where using Chaos Control during a boss also changed the music to fit the slowing of time. 21:05 It is also the only canon mention of "Dr. Robotnik" as far as I know, because the mentions in SA1 were added by the western localization, while Generations' dialogue was written in english first.(For reference, the JP-script changed this scene to Classic Tails instead wondering about how there are "Two Eggmans".) However, it is not the only or even first canon mention of the family name in the series, because SA2 and following games made the the name canon through...well, everyone knows how, lol. 23:53 Notably for this scene, neither of the dialogue choices actually make any sense. Tails would know about the rings, because he also went on similar adventures(Sometimes even tag-teaming with Sonic). Meanwhile, Tails didn't actually do anything to Sonic's tornado, which was destroyed by the Egg Carrier 1. Both transforming planes were Tails' and the one with the ground mode didn't even carry the name "Tornado" anymore. 25:06 A little bunch of notes about the Shadow-fight: The orbs that one has to get are appearently meant to be a version of the powerups from Shadow the Hedgehog that allow Shadow to instantly access Chaos Control or Chaos Blast. The winner is also supposed to get the emerald, which is similar to how Sonic challenges Shadow to an actual race for an emerald in a Space Colony ARK-mission in said game(Though even if Sonic wins, he leaves the emerald behind after talking cap to Shadow). Unless I remember wrong, this fight's emerald is also the 4th emerald one can get, which is another potential reference to StH because of the "Where's the 4th Chaos Emerald!?"-line in said game.

[@grimpaper]

Personally I'd love to see you cover SA1. With it being the first 3D game in the Sonic series, there's tons of things that changed during it's development.

[@Harventhroke]

Actually, that title belongs to Sonic R 🤓

[@saddogo5415]

@@Harventhroke You meant Sonic 3D Blast

[@andraw4002]

@@saddogo5415 Sonic 3D Blast isn't 3D.

[@FattyFatMatt]

@@andraw4002 yeah it’s shit

[@saddogo5415]

@@andraw4002 People still treat it as the first 3D game that's for sure...

[@milesfernando]

There's a little bit of misinformation here. Ryan Drummond was not being cast as Dreamcast Sonic, but as Modern Sonic. As he said, he was being auditioned when they were replacing Jason and his cast. The reason people assume that he was supposed to be a third Sonic is because of the fact that he says he was being cast for Generations, which was after Colours with an established Roger. Later info in the coming years have stated that Generations actually started development BEFORE Colors, so casting Generations would have been first. This also makes sense as Junichi Kanemaru was both "Dreamcast" Sonic and "Modern" Sonic. There would be no distinction between their voices. The internal name of the game being Sonic2X and the original plan of the game being a 2.5D sidescroller are just the final nails in the coffin. So no, no Dreamcast Sonic was ever planned. Ryan was just supposed to be in Roger's place.

[@milesfernando]

This part is not exactly evidence, but still notable. Had "Dreamcast" Sonic been in the game, there would also be issues with having his equivalent of Tails, like Classic. All 3 of the Drummond era Tails actors were children and could not realistically reprise their roles. For two of them, it had been an entire decade since their part in the series.

[@Cifesk]

Thank your for the insight

[@DairInNeutral]

@@milesfernando and also we would probably need Dreamcast Eggman who isn’t alive anymore

[@milesfernando]

@@DairInNeutral Very good point.

[@lpfan4491]

@@DairInNeutral Not exactly. Mike also voiced classic eggman in the game, even tho that never otherwise happened. And he did infact voice DC-era Eggman in Shadow the Hedgehog(Since that is considered the endpiece of the DC-era).

[@TheBytegeist]

3:20 You assume that the folder names all refer to Sonic Generations. But that's just speculation. They simply could have linked files from different projects to also use them in Generations. "SONIC2010" for example is actually the internal name of Sonic Colors. 7:40 I was the one who discovered and re-enabled the old "Unleashed" renderer in Sonic Generations. Dario and others restored/repaired the shaders and stuff, otherwise everything would have been red, as can be seen in an old video on my channel. The new renderer was most likely created for the stereoscopic 3D support that was a big feature of Generations. After all it was released during the brief time when 3D TVs were all the rage.

[@lpfan4491]

It's actually possible that "Sonic 2010" was originally meant to stand for generations Wii interms of project-forking. Because Colors actually still uses some filesystem-naming from the cancelled game, so it is possible that they never actually "created" a new project and just resumed work as if nothing happened.

[@PaulieI]

Seeing and hearing about the Wii and Ps2 versions is really interesting, especially since those versions would’ve definitely been downgraded compared to the HD versions.

[@phorchybug3286]

Would've been nice to get a Wii version at least.

[@Izhen_UwU]

I would love to see a ps2 version for some reason.

[@CrashFan03]

something tells me that a wii version would have been a port of the 3ds version

[@lpfan4491]

@@CrashFan03 I don't see how it would be. Generations 3DS appearently came after and was intentionally less ambitious because the 3DS was new to everyone. Generations Wii would have taken after Unwiished, similar to how Colors sorta did(Except I assume Gens Wii would have been a more direct successor, instead of spamming plattforming that isn't even that good.)

[@CrashFan03]

@@lpfan4491 yes but since the 3ds is basically on the same level as the wii it would make sense to port the 3ds version instead of making a brand new game from scratch

[@skim7728]

The 2nd demo does exist on 360. I remember downloading it, being hyped to hell. I specifically remember that you could play both act 1 and 2 on it. So it does exist.

[@Cifesk]

Yep, unfortunately just can't find any footage of it

[@VojtaNesvadba]

Love this content! Especially for Generations since it was the first Sonic game I ever played in my 5 years. Got a place in my heart tho haha.

[@autosaver]

It’s wild to me Dimps had to create Sonic Colors and then Sonic Generations in the time span Sonic Team was working on Generations.

[@noobishnubreal]

What about Sonic 4 episode 1

[@autosaver]

@@noobishnubreal Sonic 4 was probably developed before Sonic Colors DS, with Colors DS reusing many assets from the previous Rush games to speed up development.

[@Genesis-XE]

Honestly I believe if Colours was never made for the Wii, Generations would have a lot more content because Colours and Generations would have been developed around the same time.

[@elhasgaming]

There's still a demo on Xbox 360. Has both acts of Green Hill in it, and I would say it is slightly incomplete. The big fish doesn't move its jaw, you switch rails with the analogue stick, there aren't any subtitles, and the trick 'finish!!!!' thing works but the indicator to press both bumpers is not present. I don't know why the demo is still there.

[@lefeeshchopped8286]

Finally, someone else who noticed the endless mine thing! But in actuality, the entirety of city escape's ost is reminiscent of endless mine already.

[@marioaddict3]

These videos deserve way more views! Your bonus videos are really good at scratching my itch for random sonic information :P

[@VirtuousAezon]

The time break music is a remix of Cyber Track from Sonic Advance 3

[@ViewpointProd]

The 1990 graphic, I assume was meant for any material relating to sonic 1s promotion Or announcements, as an autodemo was being shown through magazines and treasures at the time, so I assume maybe the plan was to feature some of the material from that era of development, possibly Things like the dreams come true poster, which was how sonic was first announced

[@gengargamer5657]

Also, the Time Break song is actually a remix of Cyber Track from Advance 3

[@stanzacosmi]

In regards to the xbox live demo, a youtuber that no longer exists went into datamining the demo and even found the model (but no objects relating to) city escape. as well as some graphics for the menu that you'd select the stage in. Sadly they no longer exist, so that's why you didn't find the footage of it.

[@Itz_YoshiMelon]

Great to see we have a new video in this style! Keep it up!

[@almond_22]

Always wanted to hear about Generations unused stuff. thanks!

[@SpeederLight]

Thanks so much for this video! I always love videos like this! Keep up the great work! 😁

[@SonicStation]

Really nice video as always, however you technically did not mention an interesting fact of trivia regarding the full version of Generations, skipped some other CGI cutscenes featured in trailers that are not present in the game and you missed the mention of a Sonic Generations Demo in this. Regarding the full version of the game you forgot to mention that the console versions of the game feature Sonic the Hedgehog Rev0 playable in the game with the possibility of buying infinite continues too. While the game is not present in the Steam version through hacking you can buy both the shop items and get them to display on the hub world (but nothing works). In regards to CGI cutscenes 3 cutscenes were part of many Sonic Generations trailers that did not make the cut of the full game besides the mentioned one. The first one is Classic Sonic running on Green Hill and it is an extended clip of the one featured in the game one, the second one is in City Escape Classic Sonic runnning and Modern Sonic using his board in the city roads and the third one is in Rooftop Run where Modern Sonic uses boost and Classic Sonic jumps in sucession in some enemies. All of these can be found in the respective era trailers if I am not mistaken. In regards to the demo information this is more of a trivia fact than anything really. There was another demo released (at least on PS3) where it features Green Hill Act 1 and 2 playable unlimited times. While many might think this is the same as the Steam Demo which you can still get they actually have a slight difference which is one having the score act end screen (the Steam version) and the other only displaying coming soon in 2011 (which is the PS3 version). Sorry if the last part isn't that interesting but I think it is in the spirit of these videos to share more info! Keep up the excellent work as usual and take care!

[@AizakkuAnalysis]

I already know this is gonna be a good video. While I was never a huge fan of generations, one thing that would've made it infinitely better is if they had actually gotten Jaleel White back.

[@tek3576]

Nah. Voice always sucked and giving it to the game sonic wouldn't make sense.

[@AizakkuAnalysis]

@@tek3576 What's making sense got to do with the talking blue hedgehog who has changed voices in English 3 times already? What's another voice going to change in things making sense?

[@InitialAA]

​@@tek3576Classic Sonic.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

We would’ve, had Classic Sonic talked

[@IvanFranco120]

I didn't know the 3DS version had some unused content too. But i knew that betas and Sonic Unleashed leftovers was already a thing.

[@saint9049]

i remember playing the 2nd demo on ps3 around 2011, it was like October / November i think, then 2011 christmas getting the full game with Sonic Unleashed.. good times

[@danielguevara2446]

5:14 Rouge: Not bad. CONGRATULATIONS, you did all of sonic's missions. A new kart is available.

[@stanzacosmi]

10:51 this is a thing even for future sonic games, but no. The boss wasn't intended to be fought in GHZ. Same thing happened in lost world, forces, and even frontiers as shown by the footage that came out involving the cutscene with amy.

[@JonyPlayz1]

Nice one. New sub. That was interesting. I would love to see Sonic Rush next 👀

[@tikan3608]

Primeira vez que vejo um PT a fazer videos de Sonic. Love it

[@Semy_04]

This is amazing! Can you do Sonic Forces next?

[@Monafide3305]

2:13 I remember seeing all of these images in the Gallery portion of Generations 3DS, pretty sure they were viewable in 3D as well. Less sure about the first image, but I'm pretty much positive the other 3 made it into the final game as bonuses.

[@SaddieMoon]

Finally we got that Sonic 2 Bonus Video (Reversed title edition) /J

[@ariano1561]

this video was mis recomended to me while iwas searching for vidoes about fire emblem cut content but generations was my first game os i couldnt not chack it out anyway you have another sub: D

[@Cifesk]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it ^^

[@justachannel5963]

Nice video!

[@BlackBlur888]

20:22 growing up as a gba kid, my first sonic game was advance 1, this still makes me sad to this day

[@Therealsoniccfan]

There is another unused sound from Generations. Big Arms used ones The doomsday zone sound. And the video is still online on KZbin.

[@baxterbunny4403]

I did not know there was Cut Content in Sonic Generations

[@AuntieAliasing]

8:46 This is a leftover from Unleashed and has nothing to do with the Wii. Sonic Unleashed on 360 and PS3 has a dedicated 4:3 mode (determined by system settings) that was removed in Generations. Generations 360 and PS3 simply letterbox the 16:9 viewport in a 4:3 signal if the system is set to 4:3, like most 360 and PS3 games. Generations PC has a "Letterbox" aspect ratio option in its launcher meant to do that same thing, but it's broken and works exactly the same as the default "Widescreen" option

[@hype5456]

So a little fact i wanted to share, originally adventure Sonic was gonna be a third Sonic, I'm glad they got rid of that idea as that wouldn't make much sense

[@playbossthebest936]

Ah yes, my favourite game ever made. The best? No. But the nostalgia is strong with this one, ironically not for its celebratory aspects 😁

[@fojisan2398]

It's just a kickass platformer with or without the nostalgia factor! I'm playing through it right now and 12 years later it's still awesome!

[@itsrevooo]

Great video

[@Harrymation-productions]

Actually, the 3ds version shows an earlier design for classic sonic on the goal post; showing that classic sonic looked more inline with the American design originally.

[@superfandesonic1]

Amazing video!! 👏

[@balkanyibalazs2433]

Great video, love ya

[@aortaplatinum]

You'd think the 3DS version's tumultuous development history as a PSP game would have provided more unused content. I guess it really was just a quick and dirty port to the 3DS.

[@alyx9191]

GREAT VIDEO

[@xan1242]

12:54 I think this is from my video lol But I don't mind. It's not a very high quality video recording lol

[@Cifesk]

It is and I forgot to give credits It's in the description now

[@gameman5804]

Damn, bro... this game was BEGGING for more content. Even though Sega was being an asshole with Ryan, I'm kind of glad Dreamcast Sonic didn't happen anyway tbh. I DO wish there were more stages to make up for it, though.

[@Twelvestar]

Hey I definitely remember playing the October demo on my 360, and I'm 99% sure the demo still available on PC is the same demo that was released then. Edit: Footage of this demo can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGPbYphmlNyIobs

[@BT_Official2011]

Correction > the metal sonic and omochao name tags are used for when you talk to meta k to fight him and if you have subtitles when omochao is talking

[@Cifesk]

I was saying the reversed ones never go used.

[@Chill227]

Im so grateful for 1.5x speed

[@Cifesk]

Your brain is fried I'm afraid

[@gumbo342]

You're so underrated

[@taecampus]

Honestly I just wish this game had more to it. I would've loved if they added a level from Sonic CD and from Knuckles Chaotics, just to have more classic era levels. Call it the Addon Era... or something else lol. And then after the Dreamcast Era, have a level for Secrect Rings and Black Night; dubbing it the Storybook Era. I would totally love if we also had more rival fights 🤩. For classic I would put Silver Sonic & Mecha Sonic as a tag team, like you take out Silver Sonic, then fight Mecha, then fight a Super Mecha. And also add Classic Knuckles. For Modern Sonic's rival fights, they could've added Blaze and Jet. I'm sure they could have came up with a fun way to fight them like they did the others. And lastly, just more to the story. How about a cutscene of Sonic with Tails (Classic Sonic, and/or a friend you save from that level) in each level you complete. Similar to the scene they had in Chemical Planet because that was neat.

[@LetsPlayKeldeo]

Amazing that you still brought up the PSP version I thought it would just stay some fun trivia for the crazy sonic fans haha

[@justachannel5963]

Amogos

[@dabmasterars]

sos📮

[@hashimhussain8973]

Amogos

[@Functional_Human12]

Gusamo

[@keeby4]

Quandale

[@shalpp]

amigos

[@SonicTheCutehog]

I'm guessing Big would have replaced Cream originally, as Big debuted in Sonic Adventure. He probably got replaced with Cream do to his infamy.

[@milesorbet]

Is the second demo the one that was used in the time trial contest? It should be on the Sega KZbin channel.

[@Ersymondequartiere312]

yes, finally!

[@Pan-mt7bc]

So there are birds in planet wisp huh

[@opsy9264]

Ayo new vid

[@PyroFusionBlox]

8:45 different languages

[@retrorebootmusic]

I played the 360 demo with both acts a bunch as a kid, i think that my xbox 360 might even still have it actually?

[@Sonicfalcon16]

22:27 is that the talk people noise that was unused in 06?

[@joshmangamer255]

For a video request can you do a video on Sonic colors bonus video cut content and more can you do that alongside Sonic and the secret rings and Sonic and The Black Knight those would be really good ones to watch and learn about.

[@martimswag]

great video cifesk! do you wanna do a sonic manhunt with me? i'll be metal sonic!

[@tristanbush6576]

Any plans to do a Bonus Video on Shadow the Hedgehog since Sonic X Shadow Generations is on the way?

[@miguelsa5536]

Omg tuga AAAAA btw awesome video

[@alexthe1115]

you are cool i now will sub

[@ilikecustardofficial]

The xbox 360 demo did exist I remember playing it ages ago

[@deimianhere9112]

Man it's surprising that I understand more a portugues speaking englishrather than an american ._. hahahaha nice video btw

[@dashi-musashi351]

Wasn’t the unused Silver theme used in the 3DS version for when you’re nearing the end of his rival race or something?

[@lpfan4491]

Possibly. Dimps used a lot of unused things for their games.

[@windy3935]

Ah, unlike in another video that compared both themes, I was able to hear the Endless Mine and City Escape (classic) similarities. Ryan wasn't going to get compensation for voicing Sonic? Is that the accurate story? I know Sega can be stingy with money, but that much idk...

[@lpfan4491]

I remember watching an EmuEmi-livestream where he elaborated on the story. Basically, he was being cast and then they told him that taking the job is going to be attached to a tour around the world to promote the game. He asked them what the compensation for that would be and they simply said there wouldn't be any, they thought that them financing such an event is cool enough. Obviously, he declined because that would have meant he would have been gone from home for almost a year with nothing to show for it, which would have sent him faaaaaar into the red. Basically just a big jerk move and only done in an attempt to push the limits of the deal. I don't understand it either, because is it really worth relinquishing positive fan-feedback over attemping to turn Ryan into a VA-slave like that?

[@dashi-musashi351]

You can play as Metal Sonic in Sonic Rivals??? Sorry WHAT?

[@VHINIX23]

is the demo limited by days or what, i actually want to try it but i can't add it to my library

[@Deprechion]

and the steam demo?

[@lpfan4491]

I thought that was just a cut down version of the release-build.

[@KaiWalkerTheMouse]

The Time-Break sounds very similar to being in Shadow The Hedgehog’s Chaos Control slow down.

[@InitialAA]

Cybershell 4

[@unleashed1237]

I want to 100% this game but I got a lot of work to do on other games I am in the middle of doing unleashed but then I’m doing colours and then frontiers as i have them all on Xbox one and would rather that console but then i want 100% botw before tears of the kingdom releases then i’m most likely gonna do sonic generations

[@radiantstarlight0428]

bro recorded the vo on a v-tech home phone

[@Cifesk]

🤥

[@SEGALOVER95]

Sonic x2 ? Sounds close to sonic x shadow generation

[@izr_7]

1+ subscriber

[@FranxoscoAlt]

Ngl you sound like a text to speech

[@Cifesk]

nah

[@shadowthedestroyer2241]

@@Cifesk Yeah

[@Cifesk]

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[@shadowthedestroyer2241]

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[@tuangaming4910]

Now do Sonic Forces

[@hashimhussain8973]

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[@DznMiguel]

King Mais um

[@Radar_of_the_Stars]

did you know that Sonic Generations is the only good video game ever released?

[@khertonur1754]

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