Music: VS. Nega Wisp Armor Phase 1 (Sonic Colors) VS. Titan & Big Mother (Sonic Unleashed) No Way Out (Shadow the Hedgehog) Can it be True? (Sonic 2006) King Theme (One Piece OST) Sonic Appears (His World) (Sonic 2006) VS Egg Wyvern (Sonic 2006) Eggman Theme (Sonic 2006) Egg Carrier (Sonic 2006) Mephiles' Temptation (Sonic 2006) VS Time Eater (Classic) (Sonic Generations) VS Time Eater (Modern) (Sonic Generations) Frightful Reflection (Sonic Forces) Three Black Noises (Sonic Adventure 2) VS Egg Dragoon (Sonic Unleashed)
@djoelsongamer2 жыл бұрын
Hello New Subscriber
@averywilson67532 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@superdogsam62302 жыл бұрын
Missed oppurtunity not using the Egg Emperor theme.
@sylver_sonic77262 жыл бұрын
@@superdogsam6230 not a fan of that theme
@antitailsakaantimilesprowe74042 жыл бұрын
@@sylver_sonic7726 kit vil join i team sonic in sonic idw comic
@supersonicmario562 жыл бұрын
*"That's the real problem with giving people a choice. You can't stop them from making the wrong ones."* Now that's one to remember.
@emilie83562 жыл бұрын
yes
@Vivigreeny252 жыл бұрын
“I was built to *end* you! Your morals! Your friends! Your world! *I’m burning it all down and dancing on the ashes”* was raw as hell.
@pokuhmoo94152 жыл бұрын
That's true very true....
@abloogywoogywoo2 жыл бұрын
Pity the god of the Bible is unable to figure that aesop out. ^^
@Andi_Thy_Is2 жыл бұрын
Line goes hard as hell
@aidanhammans93372 жыл бұрын
This is just a reminder to us that this was the Eggman who almost killed Sonic after tricking Tails back in SA2. He KNEW that Starline knew what beat the Egg Emperor, and when he figured out Starline was what caused the odd raids, He KNEW that Starline was trying to be a one man Heroes Team, He deliberately used the Egg Emperor to get Starline overconfident and cause him to use his equivalent to a Team Blast, which Eggman KNEW would drain Starline and the Tricore. He also knew what Starline’s backup weapons were, and found countermeasures. This is a reminder that Eggman is still the super genius that beat SUPER SONIC!
@playerback77222 жыл бұрын
He got unleashed level greatness
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because he knew the Super form doesn't enhance Sonic's intellect! lol
@justinukah74412 жыл бұрын
And that’s why you don’t mess with the big dogs
@gameguider321GO2 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to experience I guess. Lol
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@gameguider321GO Prudence, if you ask me. Like Eggman said, he doesn't share, period. As his fan, Starline should have known that.
@anoriginalusername10882 жыл бұрын
Seeing Eggman be THIS intimidating is reason to get issue 50 alone I think. I hope he gets more moments like that in the future. Also needless to say but Surge and Kit are still great.
@SyLuX6362 жыл бұрын
I never expected Eggman to get physical cause he usually doesn't need to but tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he learned a martial arts within a week considering his IQ.
@Shiobana7532 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen Eggman this threatening since the Archie comics days.
@mizu22672 жыл бұрын
@@SyLuX636 Right I never expected Eggman to physical with anybody mostly because I'm so used to him using mechs to fight people
@GTSW1FT2 жыл бұрын
eggman vibe checked starline
@loonardtheloonard2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad Surge died of ligma...
@thecreeperman11762 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to think starline broke down because he lost that badly but i feel like it goes deeper than that, if you remember starline defected from the eggman empire because he thought eggman"s method were brash, careless and poorly planned and wanted to prove that his method were superior, but as we see in this issue eggman is just as prepared if not more so than starline, because starline made the mistake that eggman is held back by his method's but what he does not realize is that eggman is primarly held back by his ego something sonic and friends have taken adcantage of in the past, this means all the progress made by him in bad guys and imposter syndrome to prove to eggman that he is the better planner was for nothing, the reason eggman never took starline's advice was not because he was careless bit because that would mean that he make's mistakes and eggman's ego won't allow him the capacity to admit when he is wrong.
@sethisevilone022 жыл бұрын
I mean eggman did admit he made mistakes and one of them was letting starline live
@abloogywoogywoo2 жыл бұрын
He wanted Eggman to admit he was wrong and welcome him back. Achieving neither gave him a mental breakdown.
@vi6ddarkking2 жыл бұрын
YES! This IS THE EGGMAN Almost At His SA2 Peak. And The Fights, The Interactions. This Comic Had Me With A Grin The Entire Read.
@avenger32722 жыл бұрын
He's truly living up to that IQ of 300
@gameguider321GO2 жыл бұрын
This probably the best W Eggman has had since SA2. ngl this issue is probably the highest peak Sonic has had in a while. That was dope!
@ancientninjask12332 жыл бұрын
I was worried Starline was gonna pull some bs to undermine Eggman's entire strategy, but I'm glad the walrus man finally got a well deserved win. He's been neglected by IDW for a while now and I'm excited to see him step up at last.
@razorionxvii6382 жыл бұрын
“World who wronged me” *COUGH* SHADOW *COUGH COUGH*
@aggromango5342 жыл бұрын
@@razorionxvii638 You wanna spam now?
@hydrocityshark2 жыл бұрын
The death of Dr. Starline was really unexpected, but I can see why. Since Starline failed in his plan, it meant he would either give up entirely or try again. However trying again means that Starline would’ve fallen into the cycle that he has worked so hard to destroy. In the end he turned out to be no greater than the egg.
@EWOODJ2 жыл бұрын
Nah, he’ll most likely be back with modifications to his body or something. Definitely not without a scratch.
@hydrocityshark2 жыл бұрын
@@EWOODJ Ian confirmed that he was dead tho.
@algalax22 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocityshark Wait, really? Was that said in a bumblekast?
@evdestroy53042 жыл бұрын
@@algalax2 yeah
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocityshark Yeah, take everything Ian Flynn says on BumbleKing with a grain of Salt; none of it's set in stone. The man's not an Island, especially now that he's sharing the desk with Evan Stanely and maybe others, and Sega has proven that they CAN overrule what he says about or does with his writing.
@zeroddor26652 жыл бұрын
LOVED this Issue. Not only because he got to see 3 different paths of Each Character, but we also got to see some of the best moments for each and one of them. Belle helping Metal Sonic, Eggman Outplaying Starline, Tails trying to solve things peacefully with Kit, and of course, both Perspectives of both Sonic and Surge's Fight. It was truly incredible and I think this was handle amazingly.
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
Indeed very entertaining and action pack so awesome definitely worth all the wait😄 10/10 issue for me💦⚡️
@knju1monsterhunt6562 жыл бұрын
I think you listed 4 paths, not three; Sonic Tails Belle Eggman
@zeroddor26652 жыл бұрын
@@knju1monsterhunt656 right I forgot. I thought Eggman's and Belle's were connect to one. My mistake
@SNAAAAAKE922 жыл бұрын
@@zeroddor2665 Bruh, I love this comic. It’s way better than Archie
@ancientninjask12332 жыл бұрын
@@SNAAAAAKE92 still prefer Archie tbh. Not to undermine this comic issue though, it's some of the best Sonic media I've consumed in a while.
@DrSheldonCrane4442 жыл бұрын
Man, this comic is pretty lengthy, but completely worth it! Can’t wait for the next issues, not to mention frontiers.
@Emiliodelgado252 жыл бұрын
I gotta say for the part for Belle Having to let go of her father Mr. Tinker who was eggman Really was a right and tough choice because she may have lost her kind hearted father At least she was able to find some good friends And she’s going to used those skills to Help them and even help the badniks.
@Dreamir2 жыл бұрын
This issue showed how mature and experienced sonic is as a character. We can see his IQ BIQ is high and not just speed blitzing. This whole issue is amazing. Also I like how tails was confident in that whole fight.
@parlinmains2 жыл бұрын
BIQ?
@TheMoronarch2 жыл бұрын
@@parlinmains battle IQ
@Galm12 жыл бұрын
@@TheMoronarch I remember when people use the word strategy instead of the term Battle IQ TikTok is to blame.
@KYRA_RISING2 жыл бұрын
Back in Imposter Syndrome 3, I had a bit of a feeling that this fight would be the end of Starline. I… didn’t think it would actually come to pass. Every time I feel like the comics probably wouldn’t get any deeper or more emotional, they just DO. The artwork and fighting were phenomenal. The writing… where do I even start?? And Eggman… he had Starline played from day one. He had US played, in a way. It just goes to show that the wannabes can try their absolute hardest and almost win, but they’ll always pale against the doctor. We best never underestimate him again. There’s no telling what their next big move will be. But one thing is clear: It’s gonna be glorious
@comicfan13242 жыл бұрын
I like how each of the battles seem to be less of a battle of power but more of a battle of ideology. Sonics desire to live life in the moment and give others the same opportunity is contrasted with Surge’s lust for revenge for a past she can’t remember. Tails, despite still playing the sidekick role, is an independent thinker with his own ideals and aspirations compared to Sonic, while Kit has been brainwashed to a point where he literally cannot think for himself. Kit really doesn’t seem to have any desire to fight Sonic & Tails but he is convinced that he needs to do this because it’s what Surge wants. And Dr. Starline believes that he knows what’s best for Dr. Eggman. Whether it was restoring his memory and robbing him of a happy life or forcibly inserting his own agenda into the Doctor’s plans. Dr. starline thinks just because he idolizes Eggman that he knows him when he really doesn’t. (Not to say Eggman is more moral by any means.)
@valentinkambushev49682 жыл бұрын
All while Belle is walking around with her big brother thinking: "How the f@#$ did I get myself into this?!"
@Freelancer8372 жыл бұрын
Standing here-
@Victini74722 жыл бұрын
@@Freelancer837 I REALIZE!!!!
@thanetastic56082 жыл бұрын
@@Victini7472 YOU ARE JUST LIKE ME
@hughg.rection14212 жыл бұрын
@@thanetastic5608 TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
@MasterMygrane2 жыл бұрын
"It takes approximately 118 milliliters of liquid and 40 seconds to drown." Good heavens, that is NIGHTMARISH.
@machtenverl5916 Жыл бұрын
I disagree on the 40 seconds part. I don't know about the liquid thing.
@combatmaster Жыл бұрын
Only if it goes down your windpipe and into your lungs. CPR can undo it if performed correctly and quickly.
@MasterMygrane Жыл бұрын
@@combatmaster That's good to know, I appreciate that. Unsure if that knowledge would help in a scenario where an angry cybernetic child is kinetically forcing water down said windpipe. But appreciated nonetheless! XD
@KavinCatastrophe2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Starline and Surge is like the Sonic Fans. Starline is a Big Fan of Dr. Eggman but always criticizing everything he does just like the Sonic fans. Saying how Eggman Can never Adapt or learn from his mistakes And he believes if Eggman would just listen to him he would reach his Full Potential. Eggman Proves he is A great Villain and he Can Adapt and Learn from his Mistakes but he just like Being Evil His Own Way. If he wants to use Carnival Rides and easy to destroy mechs to take over the world that his Way. Starline basically was wasting his time trying to change a man who never wanted to Change. Tails and Kit fight proves that talking to people can change people opinions. Change their way of Living life but in the End if Kit still chooses to Hate Sonic. Their Nothing Tais can do about it. So they still Fight. Then we go to Sonic and Surge. Surge blames Sonic for everything because he didn’t “Stop” the Bad Guys once and For all. For not being the “Hero” she believes he should be. Saying her Life has Been ruined because of Him and Sonic basically Reply with “I don’t even know who you are”. (Got to love the whole Blame the Hero for the World Problems trope.Batman has dealt with this so many times.) Sonic says he has his own way of living life even if everyone doesn’t like it. Just Like Eggman. Sonic Believe everyone should have the Freedom to Change even his Enemies. Surge try to turn this around saying “Than I believe the World Wrong Me and if I use my Freedom to hurt everyone than it Okay right.” And Sonic Basically says Yeah that your Choice your Belief but if your choice is going to put people in danger be prepared to deal with the Consequences. Belle wraps it up finally seeing that eggman has Chosen who he wants to be and that her Father is never coming back. And has finally given up on trying to make him change back. Sonic and Eggman are the Same. They both have their own styles that they won't change Eggman is filled with evil and Sonic not. People will still criticize and Blame you on how you live your life. But you still have the choice to be Who you want to be.
@hydrocityshark2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best comment here.
@algalax22 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful… a hundred claps for @KavinCatastrophe!
@KavinCatastrophe2 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocityshark Thanks. This issue just proves to me why I Love Ian Flynn and His Team. They just really know how to Draw, Make and Write a Sonic Story. And it Almost feels like this is what all the Story arcs has been building up to. I feel like Sega Should Promote the Comics more because it clearly the Best thing they have with Sonic Right now. I can’t wait for Sonic Frontiers not because it Open Zone but because of Ian Flynn writing it.
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
Amazing love the comment and definitely very fitting now that you put in that way I see it like that😊👍 Big Cheers for ‘@KavinCatastrope’ 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎉🎉🎉🎉
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
@@KavinCatastrophe Me too so excited for the game and the story very interesting 😄🎉💖
@pinkpunk68442 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Surge will be fine. Not sure about Starline, though. Either way, this was a great issue!🥰😎👍
@mr.meloetta19392 жыл бұрын
I think one of the authors mentioned a plot of a future comic about Surge going on a rampage so... yeah she'll be fine
@_rando_d2 жыл бұрын
Ian confirmed in his bumblekast podcast that starlines dead.
@Richforce12 жыл бұрын
I think Starline will hold on...long enough for one of Sonic's friends to pull him out of the rubble and throw him in prison, making it clear that even if he beat Eggman his plans were doomed to fail so long as he stood opposed to the forces of good.
@yetismeatis91022 жыл бұрын
@@_rando_d mind showing me the clip? I’m curious
@nilesdobbs42152 жыл бұрын
@@_rando_d Link? I need proof on that statement.
@KaiTheLegend2 жыл бұрын
This issue kicked SO MUCH ASS. Seeing Sonic, Tails, and Eggman handles their respective fights so well and so smoothly was such a treat. The overall action, the character interactions, the ART!! All so so very great!
@endoskel92622 жыл бұрын
The new kids ain’t got shit on the OG
@Not_black_imposter2 жыл бұрын
@@endoskel9262 duck got slammed into a stew
@_rando_d2 жыл бұрын
Welp this issue was one of the best. Ian Flynn deserves an award. A simple review can't describe how great this was. But, with Flynn confirming on his bumblebee podcast that Starline is actually dead I wonder how Surge, and Kit will find out what their backstories are...
@Princessmidnight47612 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Starline😖. It’s sad really the only one who knew Surge and Kit’s pasts is DEAD. They may never find out.
@_rando_d2 жыл бұрын
@@Princessmidnight4761 Yeah but, to be honest I think this was the best way for them to end Starlines story. I don't really feel bad for Starline after him torturing belle, surge, and kit. But, it was fun while it lasted.
@ObscureSwan2 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize Flynn confirmed that Starline is dead. Thought it was the "Unless you see a body, they're 100% alive, and if you see a body, there's a 50% chance they are still alive" situation. Got any links to Flynn confirming the death?
@JonyPlayz12 жыл бұрын
Really?
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
Wait what really Starline dead oh my, never thought there will be a death of a character especially Starline oh my😮
@jarrodkopf68132 жыл бұрын
Issue #50 was awesome! I can't wait to see whether Kit will develop a friendly bond with Tails in the next issues because I want to see Kit truly break free from Dr. Starline's programming now that he is no longer with Surge.
@jarrodkopf68132 жыл бұрын
@a ddd I am sure that is Kit's first reaction, but I am also sure Sonic, Tails, and Belle will attempt to calm him down in order for all four of them to escape the Eggperial City.
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodkopf6813 I won’t be surprised if that happens but all I can say is poooor Kit, 😔 at least he is with Sonic, Tails and Belle who are good company/friends around him🙂
@zeoxdragon2 жыл бұрын
Doubt it, Tails literally disconnected him against his will, Kit will no longer trust Tails and after they tell him what happen to Surge, he would start hating them not because it's in his programing but because of what they did. Besides that, I believe Ian mentioned that he wanted Surge and Kit to stay as villains, that there's enough reformed villains.
@cyberwolf58962 жыл бұрын
Wow this issue was absolutely amazing, there’s so much I want to talk about.: 1: The fight with Sonic and Surge was awesome, yea I expected it to play out like it did but still was great, seeing Surge bring up Sonic’s moral code really made me think cause she’s right, Surge exists because of Sonic, if he just dealt with Eggman or Starline at any point before this then all the suffering she and Kit had been through would possibly never have happened, I hope Sonic will chew on this more after he eventually finds out what happened to them, and this will be a drive for him to want to help both surge and Kit since he might feel a bit responsible. 2: Tails vs. Kit was also awesome, I think Tails trying to talk Kit down and get on his side fits his character as he is the one to find a middle ground in the situation, and damn seeing Kit in each of these panels really just made me feel bad for him, when I think about it now the mini series didn’t really show how Kit really felt about the revelation, just Surge, but here you can really see how hurt Kit is, and man it’s heartbreaking, I hope Tails will try to help him more after this to find out who he was cause I feel like they can actually have a bond since they have a good amount to relate with. Also find it interesting that when Kit gets really upset his water can turn into ice and shoot out, wonder if that’ll come back later? 3: And finally Eggman Vs. Starline, this was probably my favorite fight cause of how much back and forth talk there was going, seeing them both fight in old Mechs was fun, and I’m sure we all knew starline was gonna lose in the end but Geez he lost badly, I’d say worse than any other Sonic villain. Having Eggman beat him then just start poring salt all over the wound by talking about how inferior Starline really was in the end hit deep, Starline thought he had everything planned but it still all fell apart and now he is left shattered, at least Surge and Kit got their justice in the end. I don’t know if he’s dead or not but honestly I don’t see why they would need to bring him back, his arc felt completed and I don’t know what he would do next if he returned, but hey who knows if you don’t see a body then they probably ain’t dead. Overall though this was one of my favorite issues, definitely worth the wait 10/10 Edit: one thing I somehow forgot to mention was Eggman, this was probably one of his most menacing moments in the comic series, how he just walks over Starline and disarms him with ease just seems scary, it’s moments like this that make me excited for how Ian wrote Eggman in frontiers
@Richforce12 жыл бұрын
Would have prefered it if Starline was pulled out of the rubble and given a line by Sonic along the lines of "The reason you failed, and old egghead always fails is simple, the good guys always win, and you are SO not the good guy".
@evdestroy53042 жыл бұрын
@@Richforce1 That's not something Sonic would say
@Richforce12 жыл бұрын
@@evdestroy5304 Maybe not something like that, but I think Starline needed to realize the reason he and Eggman's plans fall apart is because they fight for the side of evil rather than the side of good.
@playerback77222 жыл бұрын
Surge is pinning the blame game. She could have got rid of starline herself and even demanded answered but no she choose to be violent and take out on a person she doesnt know.
@JaniacTheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Ian confirmed Starline is dead
@sunnyfatigue2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Starline is dead after that, I don't know where else they can take his character after that outside of pulling a Thanos and living the rest of his life on a farm after giving up This issue was definitely worth the wait, I did wish the fights would have interconnected (like how the imposter syndrome A covers suggest) but focusing on three at once was something that was executed well Also also great music choices
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
Nah, if he returns, it'll be in a straitjacket, if only figuratively.
@king2.0smods172 жыл бұрын
If Starline does come back, he'll still be obsessed with Dr Eggman except he's now gone the other other extreme (i.e instead of loving and admiring the mad doctor, he now utterly hates and criticizes everything about him and anything that doesn't fit into his view of Dr Eggman) and will likely modify his body with his custom strain of the Metal Virus and cybernetics while going further into insanity. Or alternately Dr Eggman resurrects him as a cyborg slave, causing Dr Starline's dream fantasy of being at Eggman's side to become a nightmarish hell he can no longer escape from.
@Dr.PaiPai2 жыл бұрын
Someone dying in a Sonic on-screen/page in Sonic material? Doubt it. He'll probably still be alive.
@abloogywoogywoo2 жыл бұрын
@@king2.0smods17 Starline would probably go so far into denial he'll think he was Eggman, or Eggman's son. Or he would want to assimilate Eggman somehow - that platypus just can't get over the doctor, just as the doctor can't overcome the hedgehog.
@samiamtheman73792 жыл бұрын
I think it's confirmed that Starline is dead unless fans really want him back. Wouldn't be the first time popularity brought a Sonic character back from the dead.
@Shiobana7532 жыл бұрын
Eggman casually reminding Starline and the readers as to why HE is Sonic's nemesis and no one else.
@d.k.islander80952 жыл бұрын
he has a high IQ, is his own villain, with originality, and is unpredictable. Starline is not as smart, tries to surpass Eggman, has barely anything of his own, and is easily predictable. What's more, Eggman is physically capable unlike Starline.
@adenhogan89012 жыл бұрын
Sonic: "I've made peace with enough enemies to know there is a better way." He's right. Knuckles and Shadow were both originally enemies, but now there his closest friend, and the list goes on. Merlina, Chaos, the Babylon Rogues(although that is debatable). there are people who are proof that villains can change.
@sonicandtailsbestfriends52352 жыл бұрын
well, I really like to see Sonic anti hero. ( like MARVEL What if...? )
@richardpatterson42 жыл бұрын
@@sonicandtailsbestfriends5235 scourge from the archie comics
@sonicandtailsbestfriends52352 жыл бұрын
@@richardpatterson4 yeah, he's evil, bot he's not anti hero.
@richardpatterson42 жыл бұрын
@@sonicandtailsbestfriends5235 fleetway sonic could be pretty close to considered an anti hero.
@sonicandtailsbestfriends52352 жыл бұрын
@@richardpatterson4 maybe, or maybe not. Anyway, thanks for answering.
@rockamillion20022 жыл бұрын
This issue ruled. It made me so happy to see Tails get another moment to shine. The part where he talks about the support he had from his friends when practicing to get a handle on his two tails and the way he defeats Kit are great. Tails once again shows that brain trumps braun. Sonic further explaining his principles during his fight with Surge and bringing up that he’s made peace with many enemies was also really cool to see. Literally everything Surge and Kit said in this issue was awesome. The battle between Dr Eggman and Dr Starline was epic. Eggman proves why he’s the greatest evil genius the world has to offer and that nobody can ever replace him as the big bad of the Sonic universe. Belle making peace with the death of her father was very touching. Finally, Starline’s death was insane. Despite how evil was, I couldn’t help but feel bad for him. His demise really made this feel like a finale of sorts and I love that. It felt like the culmination of everything we’ve seen up to this point and his death did a great job of solidifying that. Issue 50 is simply a masterpiece, I can’t praise it enough. Edit: I feel bad for not mentioning this before, but the artwork was also incredible. Adam Bryce Thomas deserves an award, he knocked it out of the park with this one.
@insertnamehere13982 жыл бұрын
I wanted starline to stay because he was such a unique and 3 dimensional villain… and he was a purple gay platatpus and he had CLASS! MWAH! Beautiful design
@rockamillion20022 жыл бұрын
@@insertnamehere1398 I know, I loved Starline too. He brought something new to the table and he’s become one of my favorite Sonic villains ever. I’m really gonna miss him.
@lil_mis_smiles2 жыл бұрын
@@insertnamehere1398 As much as people love him, I feel like IDW wouldn't have any big plans for him. So it's best to end things off while their run is great, then let them keep on going the point of them becoming dull if that makes any sense. Am bad at expressing my thoughts
@pikachu0Z2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Eggman didn't just beat Starline, he broke him, kinda like how Sonic did the same to him back in the Archie series.
@MusicKitsune2 жыл бұрын
7:59 this part I feel like is a reference to the " Judges You In Fennec " meme, but it's most likely not. But thank you so much Silver Sonic for your efforts into this ! I'm glad you took your time to finish this :) ! Until further more into the next issue soon ! 💙💜💫
@NoelTFaulk2 жыл бұрын
12:47 was a reference to sonic heroes because that tricore blast was basically team blast with speed, fly, and power. And it was that same power that destroyed the egg emperor. That was a very good reference and I loved the egg mech battles. This issue was god tier
@world-travelingpikachu90662 жыл бұрын
This comic was so good! Plus, I would like to point a few things out. I get that Surge is angry and upset about what happened to her, and she has made some fair points to Sonic during their fight. But all in all, Sonic is right. She's just a little kid looking for something or someone to blame and take out her pain and anger on. Such thinking will not give her the closure she seeks. Whether she realizes it or not. Plus, she's only fighting for herself. (I don't know if she's even really thought of Kit at all during the fight) Whilst Sonic is fighting for so many others beside just himself. *More so* than himself. That is what truly makes him a hero. If Surge can't realize that. Then she will NEVER defeat Sonic. Just like Surge, I can completely understand Kit's hurt and anger as well. But he sadly seems to be deeply mentally rooted in the fact that he is nothing but a sidekick for Surge. I know he's been "programmed" to be so, but still... And who knows, Maybe he truly does care for her. But he needs to realize that he doesn't always have to agree or go along with what she says. It's painfully obvious during his fight with Tails that he he is unsure what to do or even think when Surge is not around. And that is a key difference between him and Tails. Tails has grown tremendously from just Sonic's sidekick to being a hero himself. Not to mention gained more self-reliance. (Sonic Forces aside...) My hope is that these two will finally get the peace and closure they so desperately need. And who knows? Maybe they could even become heroes. But only the future can tell.
@aggromango5342 жыл бұрын
Kit is shown to be alive still, I have my hopes up for him getting his own Story Ark
@world-travelingpikachu90662 жыл бұрын
@@aggromango534 Don't count Surge out just yet. With her tenacity, I highly doubt she's really dead.
@sylver_sonic77262 жыл бұрын
Reminder that Surge has metal virus inside her body, giving her insane physical resistance
@aggromango5342 жыл бұрын
@@world-travelingpikachu9066 Yea Maniac (on Twitter, I think that's what he's called) had the idea of Surge going on and Taking out every Sonic Rival one by one. Imagine her facing off with Kit 😩.
@glitchtherabbit96312 жыл бұрын
In other words, these two are the classic sonic characters but with mental issues and no chance to grow into modernized versions, surge being classic sonic and kit especially being classic tails, a sidekick. While surge is still a naive stubborn kid.
@SmolMitee2 жыл бұрын
I read it online beforehand, an i have to say it's one of the BEST comics this series has done!
@EddyBinxEB2 жыл бұрын
Great Issue. Though I was expecting more of a fight from Sonic and Tails, however they didn't even look like they were trying. I wonder how they'll feel once they find out about Surge and Kit's entire backstory. As for Eggman v Starline, that is DEFINITELY the best part of this issue. Eggman not only looking and being more menacing but actually being more physically capable than we imagined (what's he put in those sandwiches he eats?). Wasn't expecting Starline's ending though but I did call it in a previous issue. His main downfall is that he still respected and wanted Eggmans approval. He could've done it if only he did it for himself. Take out his enemies one at a time and plan it all out carefully, which he is capable of doing. But he wanted to make a big show of it and do it all at once. A big show for Eggman. Unfortunately he got an awful review with a certified rotten egg score.
@Savagewolver2 жыл бұрын
You know what, Surge is a microcosm of all of Sonic’s failures oddly enough.
@locomotivo46442 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since a comic issue has captivated me this much. Phenomenal in every way. Eggman going absolutely apeshit menacing, check. Starline getting his ass handed over to karma, check. Really interesting Sonic & Surge / Tails & Kit interaction/dialogue that excellently shows their parallels and narrate their contrast in personality, check. Belle saying goodbye to her "late" father figure and showing she has moved on, check. This issue could be my birthday gift and I wouldn't complain about it one bit.
@keanimations2 жыл бұрын
12:04 this ONE panel captures so much, i love the fear in her face!
@kaxcommentssomethingREAL2 жыл бұрын
ian is a mastermind with writing these characters, everything is ON *POINT* I'd say the dialogue for the characters in sonic frontiers is in good hands
@doktordoktor122 жыл бұрын
Seeing Starline get put in his place was extremely satisfying. I also enjoyed how Robotnik is portrayed as the genius he is supposed to be, rather than the bumbling fool he is presented as in some other pieces of media
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
As long as Eggman isn't trying to destroy the world just to get revenge on Sonic, I'm okay with him. Honestly, Eggman is almost more interesting when he's facing other villains, WITHOUT Sonic and Friends help.
@doktordoktor122 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@doktordoktor12 Just to be clear, I meant more Interesting than when he's fighting the heroes as well as helping the heroes fight other villains.
@jordancrooks67522 жыл бұрын
I think eggman was always a goofball but when comes to him being evil he can show who is boss.
@Ilikebats1232 жыл бұрын
The goofball nature contrasted with that of a legit genius I think is the best route to go. I like him funny, but just because something is funny doesn't mean it isn't dangerous.
@alexthestarchild25552 жыл бұрын
This issue definitely did not disappoint. Eggman was a grade A boss in this issue, Sonic and Surge's confrontation, and Tails vs Kitsunami was hype as hell. Definitely worth the wait.
@zekromtrainer12222 жыл бұрын
I love how this comic showed Eggman's intelligence and was always 10 steps ahead of Starline's moves. Bravo Dr Eggman you demonstrated exactly why you are the number 1 villain of this world. Hats off to you
@jordancrooks67522 жыл бұрын
Well eggman was always an evil genius
@urdeadnotbigsuprise74392 жыл бұрын
@@jordancrooks6752 He just gets beaten because of his ego, Sonic and his friends utilizes that for their advantage.
@thelazyengibot99182 жыл бұрын
Amazing Issue. Sonic explaining his principles just reminded me why I love his character so much. Sonic isn't stupid, he isn't overconfident, he knows his power and wants everyone to be as free as he is Tails is Amazing here. The fact he did talk Kit down and just talked to him about his problems was great. Its nice to see Tails recognizes when he can talk someone down and relate to them to maybe help them through what they are going threw. Eggman. Oh boy. My favorite villain may be Metal, But Eggman ain't a slouch. Sure, he can be seen as comic releaf some times, but this man has a 300 IQ, he is always 10 steps ahead. He mirrors Sonic in a 'live in the moment' view and its perfect for their dynamic. Recognizing Starlines plan, throwing him off and reading him like a book just proves Eggmans superiority over not only Doctor, but all villains. He is the Eggman, thats who he is Belle and Metal may Feel unnecessary, but Dang, its nice to see her story come full circle. But I am sure this isn't the head. Interfacing with Metal may have been a terrible mistake. Also, am I the only one who thinks Metal looks adorable this issue? Kitsunami was perfect. Kit never really wanted to kill Tails until the last imposter syndrome issue so seeing him slowly talked downs was great. Kit need a dam hug. Its cute to see him basically allow Classic Tails and Modern Tails to meet, considering the dependence on Surge. Havnt read any synopsis for the next books but DID KIT JUST DIE?! Proving she won't be a Shadow or Knuckles (atleast for right now), Surge is basically what non Sonic Fans see in Sonic, fighting the real deal. The fact Sonic both struggles to keep up with her at times proves her power, but his effortless take downs prove he is still the better fighter of the two. The fact she feels rejected by a world she doesn't know is heartbreaking. Like Kit, Surge needs a hug... but would probably kill you for it. Out of the 3, I am sure she is alive. She is going to crawl from the ashes and she will be pissed. Kinda wanna see a throw down between Sonic and his Rivals + Silver now Dr. Starline could never appear again, and I would be happy. His arc feels complete here. He tried everything. He made better copies, he took over, he used the tricore, but nothing worked. Dispite claiming to be Eggmans fan, he couldn't keep up with him or truly understand the good Doctor. He was never portrayed as a perfect villain, he didn't always cover all his angles, but it was him doing that which proved why Eggman doesn't, Eggman has learned to be more flexible thanks to Sonic and his pals. If he returns, I hope it is much later down the road, but for now, let's lay this Doctor to rest. Although... maybe Doctor Eggman could dust off a Roboticizer and have a new loyal robots that helps him make more bots?
@sonicandtailsbestfriends52352 жыл бұрын
well, I really like to see Sonic anti hero. ( like MARVEL What if...? )
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
About those points on Sonic: wrong, wrong, wrong, and right. Sonic is literally dumber than all of his friends except for Big and Tangle! He's plenty over confident by thinking he'll always win! He doesn't know his power because of that, and the world he's asking for is one where the entire planet is like Everhold prison after Zavok had Starline release all of the inmates; a world of chaos, destruction, pain, and suffering.
@thelazyengibot99182 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer While I see what you mean, I have to disagree. Sonic isn't stupid, he is Optimistic. Think about it, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver, maybe Jet? They all has moments with Sonic like this. He is sure that he can talk Surge down, making her a Rival at best. Maybe he is overconfident, but he is giving her that chance. If she does cause issues for others, he will fight her again. Starline was right, it is an endless cycle, and I am sure Sonic is sure of it too, but he stands by his morals. It is also the reason he didnt go all out, he was giving Surge a chance to let her anger out so he could talk to her. He didnt know it wouldn't work and he doesn't know her origin. It isn't until near the end he get a better picture Is Sonic a Genius? No. Is he Stupid? No. Is he Optimistic? Yes
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@thelazyengibot9918 You're comparing apples to hamburgers! Knuckles and Silver were NEVER EVIL TO BEGIN WITH!!! How many times do I have to TELL people that?! As for Shadow, Gerald LITERALLY filled his head with lies! Jet? He's just a petty thief! Also, you're missing the point! This isn't about Surge, or even about to kill or not to kill! Surge and Kit are kids with superpowers, just like Sonic and friends! Sonic SHOULD avoid killing them or letting them die! If there's anything that's needed in the world, it's fewer dead kids! Metal Sonic and Eggman, on the other hand, are a soulless killer robot and a one-man global terrorist organization, respectively! Sonic has known them longer than any of his other enemies, or any of his friends for that matter; he's given them both chance after chance after chance, and neither of them took a single one! He doesn't even need to kill Eggman, but letting him escape is NOT substantial anymore! He let a fully evil Dr. Eggman off the hook for almost killing everyone on the planet after he started a six month long War! If that doesn't warrant execution, I don't know WHAT does! But Sonic won't even turn him in! He's too dangerous to be left wandering free! What's worse Sonic tried to treat Metal Sonic like a person and give him a "chance". Unlike Omega, Gemerl, Orbot, Cubot, and Belle; Metal Sonic doesn't have a "soul". He's hardly any more alive than a common Badnik! Releasing Metal Sonic also allowed him to find Mr. Tinker and bring back Eggman; and don't get started on that "It's mostly Starline's fault" trash! Starline NEVER would have been able to get Eggman back if Metal hadn't shown up! Starline in fact, without meaning to did Mr. Tinker a favor, considering that their's the elephant in the room with Mr. Tinker having once been Dr. Eggman, who started a 6 mont long war, killing thousands if not millions of people! Though they were two different personalities, they were still the same person; Mr. Tinker needed to know in order to truly be redeemed. While he was with Starline, he pieced it all together and showed remorse. Had Sonic been able to save him, and NOT release Metal Sonic, Mr. Tinker would have done everything in his power to make up for what he did as Eggman. Also, the other scenario is not favorable. Metal Sonic would have probably escaped from Mr. Tinker's control, like he did with Eggman in the past. It doesn't really matter; it doesn't change the fact that releasing Metal Sonic was a brain-dead stupid idea in general and that it caused the Metal Virus and nearly every bad thing that followed! Yet Sonic insists that he's in the right; making him not only stupid, but a grade-A a-hole to boot!
@thelazyengibot99182 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer While I see your points about Metal and Eggman, I would have to Disagree. For Metal Sonic's case, if he was a common badnik, he wouldn't have been able to rally their forces in search of Eggman. While he was Mimicking Eggman, he was shown to have his own agenda, surpassing Sonic. Metals 1 goal it to beat Sonic. After the heroes incident, he might have been made more loyal, but he is still alive. The mistake was not cheaking his code for the need for distruction Eggman mentioned. Metal is more advanced than a common badnik. Common badniks can't think like he can or have emotions like him. As for Eggman, there are small hits of good in him. During the Metal Virus, when he described what being Mr Tinker would be like, he smiles warmly. Not to mention the way he treats some of his badniks, he clearly cares for a select few. While I cant disagree he should be left free, if Sonic killed him, would he be any better? If you read Metal Virus, Tangle puts it best when describing Sonics decision. Sonic isn't accountable for Eggman. I am sure Eggman landed behind bars at some point. If he needs to be killed, why hasn't G.U.N.? The Restoration? Anyone else? Tinker is tricky. Can a man be persecuted if He doesn't know what he did? He had no idea who Eggman was. Read issue 49 and his letter to Belle, he wasn't Eggman Let's be fair here though, this is a licensed Comic, they won't be taken out or killed because they are important to the brand Also, I use the Rivals because Sonic didn't know they had a good side before their battles. Silver tried to flat out Murder Sonic while Sonic didn't know who he was, Knuckles stole the Choas Emerald, got in Sonic way ever chance he would and tried to kill him and Shadow framed Sonic, tried to Kill him and tried to kill the entire planet, Jet... Cheated. They all seemed evil to Sonic at the start and in some way, he forgave them and let them have their second chance. Knuckles was tricked, Silver was misguided, Shadow had his memory's altered and... Did Jet redeem himself? Eh, he helped stop the big bad. At the end of the day, these are my opinions. I respect yours and you do have a point, but I don't think Sonic was in the wrong for MV or can be held accountable for Eggman. Plus, if Eggman Dies, this comic would be much less entertaining.
@sonicsaiyan072 жыл бұрын
I didn't know what to expect with Eggman and Starline beyond them having a battle, but I definitely was NOT expecting to see the Egg Emperor vs. the Giant Eggrobo. Plus Eggman playing 4-D Chess against Starline's planning, their battle was THE highlight of the book. Kit vs. Tails was a little underwhelming while Sonic vs. Surge met expectations. Gave me major Sonic vs. Shadow in Sonic X vibes (I know its the same story as Adventure 2 but it hits different in the show).
@Vivigreeny252 жыл бұрын
I’m SO glad they chose the artist they did. Everything looks completely unhinged and I adore it. Also Sonic and Tails really looked at Surge and Kit and said, “I can fix them”
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
Even we can tell that; unlike the rest of the villains in these comics, Surge and Kit are age peers to Sonic and friends.
@kamarismith94222 жыл бұрын
I think this issue might be the best Eggman has been written in the comic so far. I also do like how Tails actually tried to talk Kit out of fighting, and he almost succeeded.
@rantmasterbeta19552 жыл бұрын
I knew Eggman would win, but I didn't think he would outwit Starline that well
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
15:00 Trust me, Belle, Eggman has NO intention of abandoning Metal Sonic. He considers him his greatest work, just like Mr. Tinker considered you his.
@valentinkambushev49682 жыл бұрын
Now I want an arc between the three: "The good, the bad, and the creator!"
@hydrocityshark2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 It’s a good idea, I just hope she doesn’t get the short end of that stick like she has in previous arcs. Heck, she even can’t find a break irl due to the BoingKid situation.
@KaciHazaCoolPhone2 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺🥺🥺
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocityshark Which is?
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@KaciHazaCoolPhone Hey, it's true; Metal Sonic is a reflection of Eggman's ego, and who does Eggman care about more than himself?
@DragonGirl20002 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a fun ride! This issue was worth the wait, and i'm also looking foward to seeing of what happens next in issue #51! 😁
@travisherndon942 жыл бұрын
I love this issue it was worth the wait and delays I like the three fights we got between Sonic and Surge, Tails and Kit and Eggman and Starline. I really liked the back and forth between these characters, from Tails genuinely wanting to help Kit with Kit opening up a bit ( and if the covers for issue 51 is anything to by were going to see more). To Sonic's go with flow attitude with Surge and the fact that he's giving Surge both a beatdown but at the same time giving her a chance to stop and be cool. Showing while yes he let's Eggman or Metal go he does believe in second chances and that experience of giving second chances to people does have it's positives in the form of Knuckles or Shadow. Then there's Eggman and Starline we see that Starline just wants some acknowledgment from his idol but Eggman couldn't care less but he does pay attention to Starline just not in the way Starline wanted. Now for the ending is Surge dead? I doubt that as for Starline ... I can see two ways with him either he's not dead but just in "comic book hell" till he's back in a another storyline later on or they actually killed him off and if that's case I applause you writers. But overall good chapter 10/10 and I can't wait for the next issue sorry if this really long just had a lot to say lol.
@chocolatesensei56482 жыл бұрын
Was literally just re-reading (and quite literally just re-finished) the zombot arc so what a pleasant surprise
@enanomalley99862 жыл бұрын
Okay, I know they aren't going to do it, but it would be cool to see Surge go "Super" and Sonic uses the Sol Emeralds to counter her, fight Lightning with Fire
@Tom-vg6td2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately "Only Male Hedgehogs can turn Super." Curse you Sega
@Pablo_Martin_aa2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the Emeralds are racist and sexist so no super surge
@fordgt53832 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-vg6td that doesn't exclude the fact that surge can still achive a super form through other means
@EWOODJ2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you mean “fire” in the literal sense or not, but I’m pretty sure the Sol Emeralds are similar to the Chaos Emeralds. They won’t just give him fire powers. They simply amplified Blaze’s as she already had them.
@ashuraomega71132 жыл бұрын
@@fordgt5383 when Sega said that they meant by mandates they won't let anyone else but Sonic, silver, and Shadow turn super for unknown reasons
@vexer9532 жыл бұрын
This was a great issue! Eggman fighting and defeating Starline was definitely the highlight for me. I wonder of this could be considered the end of a saga, now that Starline and the plan he had since the CRBB arc is finished with Surge and Kit doing their own thing.
@Hyperdragon17012 жыл бұрын
Lol this Comic straight up went and said "In case anybody still does not believe that Sonic is faster than Light."
@Tom-vg6td2 жыл бұрын
When Surge threatened Sonic and he just stood there introducing himself again you should've put silence and crickets chirping
@sylver_sonic77262 жыл бұрын
lol
@DragonGirl20002 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there lol
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
XD I found that part funny too hahahaha
@daelibarcena1992 жыл бұрын
XD
@jerichogarry2 жыл бұрын
I pity Surge and Kit, they don't remember their old lives, just that they were made to defeat Sonic and Tails and then replace them.
@terrellrogers76452 жыл бұрын
Loved the art of Adam Bryce Thomas in this issue you definitely can feel the sense of speed during Sonic’s & Surge’s fight when reading, his art is alway amazing and so detailed, hope to see more Lanolin the Sheep also in coming issues
@brodytitanish94842 жыл бұрын
well, starline, do you know why you lost? there's just one good answer, THREE good answers that is 1. your short sightedness (or at least you trying to not be as short sighted as eggman, who isn't as short sighted as we all thought by demonstration in this issue)) you failed to account for the possibility that the cacophonic conch worked as long as your lungs lasted, you left video logs for mimic, rough, tumble, and zavok and later surge and kit, so they would find out what you were doing or woulddo to them, you started an avalance to burie the chautteu in snow in order to get bio data from tails and stupidly decided to entee said chautteu and you got covered in snow, you failed to consider giving surge and kit memories to give them reason why they want to do what they want (which is what you desire them to want), you failed to consider that the hypno ray would be an obsticle of the metal virus in their blood would be a challenge for it overcome, since it mutates like a real virus, and you gave them healing properties which made them invincible for you to ever beat. 2. you under estemated your enemies) you eventaully thought sonic was all about power, style, and attitude, but he's more than raw power and style, he's about his love of saving the planet, and tails isn't just sonic's support unit, he's his best buddy. You always assumed eggman was always a chaotic mess of man due to his lack of foresight, his blindness of rage towards sonic, and his very incompetant self destructing, but you seem to forgot that he may be egotistical, he's no idiot. He's totally aware of what he's doing, and though that doesn't cloud up his ego, he still know's a plan won't work if it's already been deployed, He IS everything you imagined him to be, but he refuses to learn from any mistakes and plan ahead willingly. But most of all, you were too overconfident to give up, you suggested using neo metal sonic's previous data to make him stronger, but eggman knows the heroes would just learn from the previous fight, eggman knew the best way out of the metal virus plague (witch was controlled by the deadly six) was to team up with the heroes, and use the late warp topaz, and most of all you had all your contingencies disabled, eggman knew about your hypnotic glove, and you tried to hit him with your heel spur, Starline you may have been more patient, self aware, and knew when something was ready, but you still devolved into your love of eggman, got tunnel vision from his past exploits, and being exactly like him
@ObscureSwan2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Eggman remembers Belle's name from one conversation they had ages ago. I would've assumed he doesn't care to remember names of enemies he will crush later.
@CoolCrimsonJaguar2 жыл бұрын
But you have to remember! Part of how Eggman beat Starline is that he DOES remember things, trivial, important, he remembers and he schemes accordingly. Eggman is not a man who forgets, he's a man who doesn't care to show respect. He didn't praise Starline at all, but he remembered what he told him about his glove. What I find interesting is the fact that he *uses* Belle's name here. Eggman likes his insults, and him using her name feels either like a threat yet to come- or perhaps shows that even if he made Belle while he was good, he still views her as *his* creation.
@sonicstar9172 жыл бұрын
@@CoolCrimsonJaguar Where was that "genius" during the Zombot Arc? Oh, that's right; Nonexistent for the sake of the plot. Flynn even said that Eggman NEVER has a solid plan. His words.
@CoolCrimsonJaguar2 жыл бұрын
@@sonicstar917 Calm yourself, friend. You're putting words in my mouth, and didn't mean to offend you. I didn't call eggman a genius. And clearly issue 50 is contradicting Ian Flynn's words, no? Eggman had a solid plan here, and he made it on the fly. Impressive but yes, shortsightedness is and will likely always be a character flaw of his, which will likely come into play in the next few books. Eggman can win against anyone the writers want him to, in any way they want him to, and is only held back by sega restrictions and their own view on how his character behaves. Just like how you seem to have your own views on him, which are valid.
@sassygallop67912 жыл бұрын
It's funny. Starline prides himself on planning for contingencies. There's a LOT he didn't take into account. He created replacements for the world's two favorite heroes, only to raise them in villainy. The general populace would've hated Surge and Kit - Surge, mostly. He didn't plan for Surge and Kit's existential crisis that led to them secretly turning against him. He didn't account for Sonic and Tails's several years worth of fighting experience, compared to (what I'm guessing was) only a few months for Surge and Kit within controlled environments. He believed Eggman was incapable of planning ahead - based on Eggman's past deeds, not the most illogical conclusion to make, but still incorrect. His final confrontation with Eggman would've played out very differently if he had a spare Tricore in his pocket. I could go on for a while... I doubt he could've maintained any alliance with Zavok, but working with another person would have helped him vastly. After all, one person alone simply can't plan for every contingency.
@Danielathan2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Everything was written and executed so brilliantly! The artwork and dialouge was fantastic! (Spoilers ahead! Please watch the comic first before continuing.) I was blown away by how they wrote Eggman in this issue; he finally felt threatening and clever again; even when it looked like he had lost it turned out to be just as he had planned. Starline's realization, meltdown and death was some high-quality writing. Even though Surge was sent careining down a bottomless pit, I'm sure she'll be back.
@AshtonShurtliff2 жыл бұрын
Tails v.s Kit was my favorite part of the whole comic.
@francoalmiron51072 жыл бұрын
This issue was awesome, the interactions, the fights, the ending, seriously the wait was worth it.
@santiagocaraballo19752 жыл бұрын
Issue 24 is my favorite issue of the Zombot saga but this is my favorite Sonic comic!
@optimalzero2 жыл бұрын
This depicts all the characters perfectly. Especially sonic and eggman.
@markmorales79582 жыл бұрын
The imposters may have the powers to counter their originals skills in battle, but they’re nowhere close to being on their level…
@sylver_sonic77262 жыл бұрын
They arent yet
@markmorales79582 жыл бұрын
@@sylver_sonic7726 And I’m sure they’ll understand that now… especially with the platypus…
@koraykaymakc56392 жыл бұрын
@@sylver_sonic7726 Sonic also gets stronger really fast though. I don’t think Surge has the potential to outscale him in terms of literally everything.
@Snaaaaap2 жыл бұрын
@@koraykaymakc5639 sonic isn't saiyan...lol
@koraykaymakc56392 жыл бұрын
@@Snaaaaap he has… a lot of forms though?
@timeexpert63732 жыл бұрын
Goodbye, Doctor Starline. You will be heavily missed by some of us.
@justarandomgwithchaosinhis41292 жыл бұрын
Lol Rip bozo
@lilhypnotique2 жыл бұрын
But not by Eggman aka Dr. Robotnik
@ARTSONICFAN9902 жыл бұрын
Press F to pay respects.
@tuannguyenhoang39772 жыл бұрын
Eggman can lose to Sonic by speed, but when it comes to intelligence, Starline stood no chance against the greatest scientist of all time (on the planet Mobius lol). Besides, nice finishing move, doc.
@rileybullington29342 жыл бұрын
really cool how starline wanting eggman to plan ahead and make contingencies is the very thing that beats him, both surpassing starline's expectations and proving him wrong about the villainous doctor.
@enanomalley99862 жыл бұрын
Connection to Vandal Savage and Fred Flintstone The Jetson and Flintstone crossover from years ago. The Jetson had a crossover with WrestleMania, where they heard Astro talking and admitted to this not being the first talking dog they seen. The Scooby Doo and WrestleMania crossover had a scene where we saw, in their normal street outfits, Miss Martian, Artemis, Zatana, and Wonder Girl watching WrestleMania.
@roboraptorwolf97262 жыл бұрын
Eggman has actually become slightly terrifying, good job IDW
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't dare take on Sonic with his bare hands. Still, need I remind you that this Eggman already has a body count of 3. Mimic may have lured the Diamond Cutters into a trap, but Eggman's the one who activated it.
@urdeadnotbigsuprise74392 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer then you forget the part where they are soldiers and soldiers willing to die for to protect others. You can't just say something like he killed civilians, it is a body count but definitely an expected one.
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 Yeah, I suppose you're right... Metal Virus!
@urdeadnotbigsuprise74392 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer everyone turned zombies and it was reversible, don't get me wrong it is still bad and terrible but no one actually died afaik in Metal Virus arc. (If they added Blaze into that story, then it could be otherwise)
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 My point was more so to point out that Eggman has already had terrifying moments, rather than him specifically killing anyone. Also, I would like to point out that Issue 25 pretty much confirms that the virus was slowly killing the infected, with Tails saying that Eggman was saying that they would eventually disintegrate, even if it basically extended their lifespans. Being that the infected were transmuted into a techno-organic matter in a state between solid and liquid, I interpret that as they would eventually melt into metallic sludge; it's even hinted at in Silver's Future. You gotta admit, the very thought is horrifying. What makes it even worse is when you take into account Eggman's motive. He intended to use it to enslave the world and other planets; but the way he designed it, you can tell that his underlying motive was revenge. He took the last page out of his grandfather's book! He was willing to destroy the very world he was trying to conquer for years just to screw around with Sonic as revenge for him foiling his numerous attempts to take over the world! Not only does that put Eggman at a new low, but the fact that he almost succeeded gives you that terrifying feeling that Eggman just can't be human! That's one problem I find with Ian Flynn; he likes to write Eggman as unspeakably evil, to the point where you feel like he SHOULD be killed, or at least badly injured. The problem, though, is that Eggman is a game character, and the main villain at that; so, that effectively makes him a karma Houdini, leaving the reader with the dissatisfaction of not seeing him get his despite how horrible and horrifying he was.
@MrEasyNah2 жыл бұрын
The way Eggman dealt with Starline, _that's_ what an IQ of 300 looks like.
@Rob_Boss992 жыл бұрын
Bravo. BRAVO. That was fantastic. My mouth was open thr entire time. They put effort into this and it didn't disappoint. Bravo. And nice job on the edit as well. you definitely did the story justice. :)
@mlgamings61102 жыл бұрын
When Eggman emerged from the rubble shadowed with the iconic smile I actually felt shivers down my spine. Then as he started to go full Death Note and explain how he had fooled Starline I actually started laughing. This is the Eggman that is a force to be reckoned with.
@SonicBoss19912 жыл бұрын
17:18 -17:35 I absolutely love this little OVA reference even if it was unintentional
@josemejias56562 жыл бұрын
Man Ian Flynn’s comics are dark sometimes, just imagine what will expect in sonic frontiers
@jordanphipps64362 жыл бұрын
Surge and kit were at thier breaking pôint. Also it seems whenever they get upset they become more powerful seeing how for a short while they turned the tides on the heroes.
@Trigger-ub6xn2 жыл бұрын
Not really considering Sonic was holding back, she wants him dead, he wants her to stop fighting and calm down.
@Kbrathwaite6212 жыл бұрын
Sonic & tails vs Surge & Kit, Eggman vs Starline too awesome, Surge is still alive plotting revenge on Sonic, Kit's hydro pack runs out, Tails rescues Kit, Sonic & crew have to escape Eggperial City.
@avenger32722 жыл бұрын
1. We really don't get this kind of eggman much do we? 2. I think Starline is officially broken 3. This was truly a battle of epic proportions going all over the place.
@zekromtrainer12222 жыл бұрын
Starline died as a broken man
@heartnet402 жыл бұрын
Starline isn't just a failure. He's a *miserable* failure. All this time questioning Sonic, Eggman, the whole "cycle". But not once does the fool ever consider: Why haven't *they* broken the cycle? Why haven't these two tremendous forces with seemingly endless resources sought to put an end to their conflicts permanently? *They both have tried Starline. That's what you don't understand. They aren't choosing this, they just don't have the ability to bring this conflict to it's end because they are constantly outdoing each other.* What about *you* Starline? You didn't outthink either of them: you just mooched off the ideas of your hero without even bothering to understand why he doesn't utilize the tools he doesn't exploit. It's pathetic. The worst part is, not only did you repeat all of The Doctor's mistakes, you ruthlessly surpassed them. You were more arrogant. You were more clumsy. You made even more enemies. You failed to learn from your mistakes. You never followed your own advice. And you never had resources or commitment to your own plans. *And you dared believe you were EVER Eggman's EQUAL?*
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
Pfft! EGGMAN is trying to end the cycle; Sonic couldn't care less!
@erindelgado96392 жыл бұрын
Iconic that Starline wasted his time and wanted to be better than Eggman and break the "Sonic cycle" but now he got owned hard by his own "idol" and all his "allies" hated him as he is now dead, as he has bought all of this to himself! He die as he lived, a worthless nobody who has nothing but a pointless goal.
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@erindelgado9639 Hey! It's you, from DA! I like your Team Radical trio.
@erindelgado96392 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer Yep and thanks. :) You heard of me?
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@erindelgado9639 Sure! Also, about Starline, what he was really wasting his time with was thinking even for a moment that Eggman would ever see anyone as, let alone allow them to be, his equal. It's like Eggman said; he doesn't share. As Eggman's fan, he should have known that Eggman is too greedy, egotistical, and over all selfish to share anything!
@Kinra_Jade2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much in line with what to expect: all of these characters are skilled. But Eggman, Sonic and Tails have experience on their side without being any less in their prime. The deal was sealed before the fight even began. Kitsunami and Surge are separated and their status as of this chapter is to be determined. I doubt they are out yet and i can't exactly predict what's going to happen to them. In the case of Kit though, they can figure out if he has any relative.
@Supersonic378382 жыл бұрын
Seeing Eggman attack Starline in person is so terrifying bro….
@pinkjunepeanut2 жыл бұрын
Wow... that there is the second death in Sonic cannon series (the other's Sonic from... well, we don't need to mention).
@viruschris31602 жыл бұрын
Wow... what an amazing issue! The fight scenes were spectacular and worth the wait. Who knew that Eggman could tussle like that? Dang. Even without a mech, he's vicious! I feel both sad and proud of Belle. She's finally moved on with her "father's passing" and decides to stay with her friends. And surprisingly Eggman was kinda nice and alright with it. Maybe he does have a "fatherly" side there. Poor Starline... not. He deserved it after what he did to Surge and Kit, but I don't think he's gone. No body. No death. Comic rule. Still him breaking down like that... wow Eggman shows why he's a mad genius at times. And Surge and Kit. Man, I know Surge will be back and I hope Kit gets some help. I don't think they're both bad people (especially Kit) and I wish them a brighter future. Surge made some good points, but Starline could've erased people's memories of her so they wouldn't look. And that last bit of her getting the "last hit"... petty in a playful way. And Sonic's little speech about Freedom. Dude, that's why I love Sonic so far and this is just "peak" portray of that character. Like in Black Knight. Ian does Sonic justice with the writing. Sonic's right... Surge not the first nor the last to feel that way and I do hope after hearing the full story he does his best to provide the best paths for Surge to follow to help her. I mean, Shadow did... surely she can too. Now I want Issue #51 now after this one.
@sonicstar9172 жыл бұрын
This is NOTHING like Black Knight Sonic.
@viruschris31602 жыл бұрын
@@sonicstar917 Maybe not as expressive, and more humble, but it has the same vibe as Black Knight Sonic.
@Emiliodelgado252 жыл бұрын
At 17:21 The way surge refuse sonics helping hand, Yes just like a villain Who’s been through so much after discovering that they don’t know who they were but I think they were just a nobody And to me I just wish you could give sonic a chance but then, karma came And that’s how A villain goes
@JohnnyTightlips20072 жыл бұрын
Robotnik once found a way to do a respectable amount of damage to Enerjak in another universe and constantly played a similar game of who could outwit the other with his nephew Snively; someone of similar intelligence. Sorry Starline but you don't have a lot of experience dealing with the unpredictable.
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
Hold it! Do you mean Robotnik (Robotnik Prime) or Eggman (Robo-Robotnik)?
@JohnnyTightlips20072 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer I would say the latter. The original was erased in issue 50 of the Archie adaptation. Though his memories did carry over to the new one.
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 It's just that you said "Robotnik"; and unlike everywhere else where Robotnik and Eggman are two different names of the same person, Robotnik and Eggman were two separate people in Preboot Archie.
@JohnnyTightlips20072 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer I prefer Robotnik personally. If I said he damaged Enerjak then it would be the Knuckles incarnation since Julian Robotnik never met that entity.
@videogollumer2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 I'm not quite as sharp on my pre-Mecha Sally Saga Archie Sonic lore.
@percymay25202 жыл бұрын
This was amazing and a perfect build up to everything that came before it 😇😄☺love this comic series😍💘
@legodrago02dx182 жыл бұрын
Finishing this video... it was the CRAZIEST ARC and CHAPTER we all EVER SEEN in our entire lives! Like wow.
@justafan23602 жыл бұрын
The battle we were waiting for it’s finally here!
@sethisevilone022 жыл бұрын
I haven't been this creeped out by eggman since when he told tails in sa1 before fighting him "away before I make mincemeat out of you" I love idw eggman
@JaniacTheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
I like the way no one is talking about how Eggman just YEETED STARLINE INTO THE GROUND WITH HIS BARE HANDS!!!
@kingbacca4life2 жыл бұрын
14:22 the face that Starline makes is too much lol.😂 Imagine that face with a Donald duck sound.
@emilie83562 жыл бұрын
i cant believe we finally got here, it wasnt like anything i expected and i loved it. also hey silver those sound effects turned out incredible!
@zoltanbarath92832 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see you as I see the time coming.
@amarikristopher84092 жыл бұрын
Eggman got some badass scenes here holy cow! Love this issue! Can’t wait for the next ! :D
@thebloodedge2842 жыл бұрын
So I read it earlier and yeah it was pretty dope easily one of the best comics in the series. *SPOILERS INCOMING* surge and starline are assumingly dead I hope they're OK. Meanwhile kit's with sonic, tails , and belle. So those covers with kit with them predicted it. The way starline was going nuts just gave me chills.
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x2 жыл бұрын
nope that surge is...oh im not spoiler
@knju1monsterhunt6562 жыл бұрын
Surge is still alive. The cover page of #53 shows her fighting Whisper.
@thebloodedge2842 жыл бұрын
@@knju1monsterhunt656 oh thanks the for the info
@maximoomega36912 жыл бұрын
@@thebloodedge284 also starline was confirmed dead by Ian Flynn on a bumblebee cast
@christopherholloway70032 жыл бұрын
That reminded me of Issue 200# of the Archie comic when Eggman cracked from having everything set up right and all of it taken in an instant.
@ShockHat7342 жыл бұрын
It just keeps getting better and better.
@justinmyers75872 жыл бұрын
This is the definition of a goatee issue because 3 fights going at the same time and all being handled well While being good is on another level. Sonic vs Surge was a speed base fight but it showed the difference and skill but I liked how Surge stayed herself even at the "end". I wish I can say the same thing about Kit vs Tails because kit was the stronger fighter but once again Tails showing that brain could be brawn and Kit defeat was painful to watch it actually hurt me . You know with how the games make Eggman these days this fight was even more delicious, Eggman vs Starline was just a disaster for Starline in every way and I loved it, after all the planning and scheming it was all for nothing in a matter of minutes proving that Eggman is a true villian. 10/10 issue no problems loved everything.
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
Woohooo yay Issue 50 finally here, can’t wait for all the action, adventure and discovery to be reveal. 💦⚡️ This is an AWESOME ISSUE EVER😃🌟
@Sonicfan_YT-xq8bv2 жыл бұрын
One of the best comics I ever read
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
@@Sonicfan_YT-xq8bv Indeed 😄
@lizzybunny54362 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for issue 51 😄
@Sonicfan_YT-xq8bv2 жыл бұрын
Same😄
@averywilson67532 жыл бұрын
This issue was one of the best. If not my favourite. Loved it. Also what are the music in this?
@pharaoh_of_chaos77552 жыл бұрын
Eggman has the hands 😱😱😱. Great read btw . Cant wait to see if kit will turn good or still be bad also cant wait to see how they'll bring surge back or starline back if they do. 👌.
@GamerSmash642 жыл бұрын
That was Amazing, Eggman vs starline was Great, Tails vs Kit, welp, the fight was short but Incredible and can't say the same thing between Sonic vs Surge was Brutal, i Can't wait for the next Comic.
@Asher_Tye2 жыл бұрын
So the goggles DO do something! Kinda figured those two wouldn't really be a match for the genuine duo of Tails and Sonic. But this is definitely not over.
@CoolCrimsonJaguar2 жыл бұрын
I think Ian said somewhere that Starline's dead, but I ain't buying it. Listen, LISTEN. I don't think Starline's going to be around for a while, and that's a good thing! Let other villains steal the spotlight for a bit, introduce more characters, Starline's been hogging all the glory for too many issues and it's good to give newer characters a break. Let them refresh off panel, come back later down the line with a new look. And also this is a comic book and if comic books have taught me anything, don't trust character deaths, ESPECIALLY if you don't see the body.
@gamerblaster21022 жыл бұрын
So very true. I don't think Starline is dead as people believe. Also, Sega can overrule Ian Flynn as well, so Starline could still make a comeback. Other villains need to shine more so right now, give him a break.
@unknownboi24472 жыл бұрын
They just took him out from the pages like a retirement cuz lately eggman didnt really had his chance of attacking for a while so taking starline out for now was a good idea
@juliocervantes7512 жыл бұрын
Best piece of Sonic media I’ve seen in a long time. IDW is incredible. Dude you are excellent at picking music that matches the scenes. Great work!
@alexchoi37752 жыл бұрын
Great work Silver_Sonic!!! What was your favorite part?
@sylver_sonic77262 жыл бұрын
Surge and Kit introducing to their rivals and Eggman beating Starline