Sony a7c II & 61mp Sony a7c R?

[@bnguyen112]

There might be a market for these. I have always wanted a good full frame camera without the advanced video for a lower price. Something like the A7CR with the high resolution without the video features like the A7RIV at half the price would be great. Better than paying for a Leica. Would be interesting if other companies would do something like this. I know people will want to be able to video record and would want more for something that small.

[@slurpalurple]

Better autofocus, interchangeable (and remotely affordable) lenses, same IQ as a $6000 Leica all with at least some attempt at looking different from every mainstream pro camera out there? That enough alone makes it unique and incredibly appealing.

[@stopthefomo]

COME ON SONY! Isn’t it about time you update the FX3 with a fully articulated screen and variable shutter??

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

We need three successors to the A7C FOMO... I need them all for fear of missing out ;)

[@ajalbetjr]

The 'cripple' part of an A7CR would simply be the single card slot, and probably reduced-res rear lcd screen.... but it would make zero sense for Sony to cripple it even more, ESPECIALLY if they only drop the price $200 like the A7C....

[@POVwithRC]

That's really not cripple. That's just rangefinder life.

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

Single card slot, slower buffer... that makes sense.

[@naseeb46]

​@@OrdinaryFilmmakerMicro HDMI, low res screen, small evf, articulating screen instead of the 4 axis screen, Single card slot, and probably A7RIV video capabilities.

[@jonathanbradford9403]

Oh boy, you correct are about the SIII-FX3-FX30, but this habit has been going on a lot longer than that. The A9-A9II was the king of this particular ROI maximization format. They literally use the same parts for both, removed the SDI for SDII added Bluetooth and software and resold it.

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

It's smart from a business sense, but a little frustrating for customers hoping for big improvements each generation. But its working for them, and doesn't appear to be hurting sales at all.

[@cjenkins79]

The A7RV reused the sensor from the A7RIV. So we’re talking about a sensor from 2019. The body is part of what makes the A7RV so expensive. For example it has a 9.44M dot evf bs 3.58m on the A7IV. Multi angle lcd screen, 8 stop stabilization, etc. Dropping that sensor in an A7c body will give a lot of versatility. You could shoot in apsc mode and not worry about cropping. So you could buy all of the smaller cheaper apsc lenses and have a small package that could pack a large punch.

[@ryanthompson4846]

I mean, why wouldn’t they offer the A7CR for like $3,000? Strip out the 8k video, put in a lower quality evf, no flip/tilt hybrid screen, and then the reduced thermal performance accounts for the rest of the pricing difference.

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

It's posible Ryan. Sony is very good at taking tech from one camera and trickling it down... and only one camera does 8K under $3000...

[@coldmedina]

They know I wouldn’t pay $3k for it - that’s why

[@luismoracmyk]

I would love the a7cR to be mostly photo so cost could be $2000usd or lower. Maybe only 4k 24fps with no slow mo. This camera could be 90% photo oriented 10% video

[@johnclay7644]

informative news thanks Simon

[@NABR62]

So should the Canon R5 mkii come with 60mp? Should the R5 mkii be considered cutting edge or just keeping up with Jones’s (Sony A7 R5)?

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

That's the discussion we are having. I don't care so much what other companies are doing. Rather, I care about the outcomes needed by the market the 5 series serves. Does it make sense to have 60MP, or does it make sense to have a R5 that is a high megapixel camera and even go further.

[@WasionKey]

sigh* fine, i'll switch to Sony

[@stkuj]

If Sony puts out these 2 cameras that prices will be around a7cii (2000-2200) and a7cr (3000-3300). It will not be half the price like you say.

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

The rumour says 2000-2500, not 3000-3300

[@SandboChang]

No, probably 3299 for A7CR, with that sensor it won't be much cheaper to not affect the sales of A7R5.

[@nubscrub]

We will see in a few months, but I doubt an A7C-R will be a thing, seems like it’s just some random rumour someone submitted.

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

SAR was sure about there being two cameras. It's the specs that were wild. Still, Sony would be crowding the pipeline.

[@algirdasmikalauskas3373]

I process the video from my Sony A7 IV with the Topaz Video AI program, achieving excellent video stabilization and an absolutely smooth full-frame picture at 59.94 FPS (having converted the video using this program from 29.97 FPS). Artificial Intelligence works wonders.

[@POVwithRC]

I think there is a business case for it. An R without the chonkiness of the R.

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

Look at how many cameras Sony has based on the a7S III, and there's a good chance the a7C II might also be based on the a7S III.

[@naseeb46]

​@@OrdinaryFilmmakerThat would basically make it the A7IV, wouldn't it?

[@andrewbrooks2001]

A7R4 and R5 use the same sensor. Maybe the A7CR is the A7R4 in a new housing.

[@sentralent1850]

If they can't physically fit 2 card slots in a small full frame camera, they can give us 2 micro sd cards. For photo purposes if they can't do it for video. It's hard to justify paying $2k or more for a camera with just 1 card slot.

[@nubscrub]

It’s not an engineering issue, it’s a product line management decision. 2 cards = dump A7IV sales (their best-selling line), because despite the ergonomics snd customizable button differences, it would largely replace it. So seriously doubt it.

[@-AtomsPhere-]

What’s the big deal? How often has a card failed on you? Hasn’t happened to me in 8 years

[@zapp3222]

@@-AtomsPhere-good for but unfortunately it happened to me on my family reunion where im the only one with a good camera so its me who took that whole family picture and when im about to transfer it… corrupted 😢

[@Began2011]

I thought one while to get the A7c when it came out, but it only had one card slot.

[@Varosphotographs]

I prefer the sound of A7R-C

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

I'm surprised I did not say that by mistake!

[@supremeape2549]

i dont think we will see price cut at a7c II at best it will be same price as last version if they wanted to drop more affordable full fram camera they would have done it on zv e1 but in my country a7r v is cheaper that msrp that make things more complicated for me

[@jvincents]

A7 Comfort Room

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

;)

[@yohannsphotographyvideogra9542]

i would say the a7rc will be around 2.5k same as the a7r5 but no HDMI and one memory card only no mechanical shutter only electronic it would be really cool

[@naseeb46]

Micro HDMI, single card slot and the price makes sense. But, without the mechanical shutter, it will be basically unusable. That 61mp sensor has a slow readout speed. I think it will have the video capabilities of the A7RIV rather than the A7RV.

[@rodmehta5356]

If I had a say, I would ask Santa for a simple, photo centric camera. Good resolution sensor. Simple adjustments. Great viewfinder! 3rd party lenses. Thanks.

[@naseeb46]

You're just saying A7RV 😂

[@bmeclipse]

Moving over to Threads? I did.

[@joylandimmanuel9975]

Can we Get 6K in A7CII? 😢

[@brugj03]

Sony is gonna do little with the 7C series. It`s hard enough in this declining market to keep your head up. No use adding more models and confusion. A R type is , i think, out of the question. It`s to exclusive.

[@GallicGarlic]

My dear Canon … Just WAKE UP 😅

[@Dave_E7]

I think i might just get my first FF camera if either of those Sony's come out and arent too crippled! 😆

[@ytr8989]

👍

[@charmerci]

There's NO way these new cameras are going to be $1800. The a6700 is 1400. We don't know if they will continue the C. If they do, it's going to stay at that price and the new ones will be much higher. The a7cR is going to be targeted towards the Leica crowd.

[@germancreatives88]

just put 2 card slots

[@almightyri1757]

if the 7R is a real camera it will be no less than $2.8k

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

SAR gave a price and two cameras. No reason one of them would not be above the range, but could it also be possible the camera is segmented enough to reduce the capabilities. The FX30 is half the price of the FX3.

[@almightyri1757]

@@OrdinaryFilmmaker The FX30 is APS-C. The A7RC and A7CII will both be FF and one will be high res. Neither will be less capable than the original A7C.

[@erekreket7535]

Wow

[@movielover2172]

Just after seeing sonyrumour you guys start making videos 😂.you guys should start your own rumour channel

[@JRodPhotoArt]

It is good to have lots of choices for camera bodies!!! Good job sony!

[@gbwalther3198]

Here goes Sony Crashing Down the Turnpike Again, No Double Crash Diaster: Recent releases of Sony Cameras have been charcterized by serious OVERHEATING PROBLEMS: The Sony a7iv, The Sony ZV-E1 and the soon to be released, Sony a6700. And now these geniuses from across the Pacific have decided they'll up the ante by cramming higher megapixel sensors into an overcrowded midget camera body. Oh yeah, then we'll get the single card slot as a bonus, with them whimpering, "Oh, there's no room." Can u imagine how fast these two "new releases" will overheat & shut-down? Probably, seconds! Not even minutes. Active Cooling like in their cinema cams, the FX3 and the FX30? Oh no, the bean counters have already figured out" "That'll cost too much. Got to keep our profit margin high!" As for me and my dog team in Alaska: We're eagerly waiting on Panasonic-Lumix to release their rumored full frame-high megapixel S1HMark II camera with ACTIVE COOLING & Common Sense (Two Express Card Slots), etc. Go, go, go, Lumix Guys! 😎😎

[@RickMentore]

An $1,800 camera with 60 mp, not likely!

[@muaathe78]

I like native speakers

[@OrdinaryFilmmaker]

Everyone is a native speaker....