Sony Just Trolled Nintendo?

[@SpawnWave]

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[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Loveeeee Sony! 30 years of great memories!

[@mbison7combo]

Do you believe the ps2 sales are 160 millions, you credibility is at risk right now Brother lol

[@toyota420xp]

I was still playing SNES and then couple years later after that I got the 64 and then I got a Dreamcast

[@Werthorga]

you sounded like you were trying not to cringe reading that sponsor

[@Sleepysnorlax1]

If Sony wants to keep that title, just release a PS2 with HDMI out. That’s all they’ll need to do to put it out of reach.

[@crimsonemperor2219]

HDMI out, better internet connectivity, get rid of the region lock on games, and translate/uncensored games that were Japanese exclusives

[@agc2801]

Approved…and $100. No overpriced or closed system nonsense and a proper store with fair prices nostalgia alone would put it in 200mill numbers

[@kikayei]

Call it the PS2.5

[@DubsBrown]

PS2 PRO 😈

[@georgeknowseverything1269]

@@agc2801 nah they will release it for 600 dollars

[@SeanUCF]

I just got new sales numbers for the Sega Saturn: 200,000,000 Source: Trust me bro

[@darkblades1201]

Bro I just found the sales units for the Sega Dreamcast and it's like. In the millions bro

[@lockinhinddanger934]

sales of the wii u definitely more than 100 million, my source is nintendo marketing.

[@gilbert64]

Source: engine

[@jabareo]

Half of those PS2 sales can probably be attributed to that included DVD player.

[@slamjamtime202]

Sure, tons of sales were attributed to that. The PS2 still has what many think is the best library of all consoles to this day

[@PulseOfMe]

yep but Ponie's will try to tell you otherwise. It the same for the Wii sales, people only bought it coz of the gimmick it had, and altho the DVD player wasnt really a gimmick it is the reason why alot of people bought it considering DVD players by themselves were more expensive than a ps2 at the time.

[@michaelzehendner8904]

That was a genius business strategy tbh

[@frankharper3512]

Something nintendo doesn't even have anymore and what makes it even more hilarious is that they don't have hardly any streaming services at all.

[@bigduke5902]

​​@@frankharper3512Nintendo is pathetic. When I buy a video game console, the last thing I want it to do is play video games.

[@kdkseven]

Sony keeps finding PS2 sales numbers between the sofa cushions!

[@robertharper3114]

Boxes full of sales under the table and being delivered at 3am. 🙄

[@michaelpierre208]

lol they actually updated it to 160 million in Wikipedia

[@TheInfiniteNine]

​@robertharper3114 lmao

[@Castanos0721]

International countries play more PlayStation consoles than anything else. If anyone is obsessed with numbers it Nintendo. They will sue anyone to absorb profit.

[@rlheffner724]

Sony PS2 was a dvd player for many people not a gaming console...still cant fit my blurays into a switch

[@Wesayianshavenolimits]

Sony keeps updating the numbers because they know they never will be able to make another Console that is on par with the PS2

[@hard2do4u2]

I totaly agree!

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

Sony wont be able to replicate the DVD craze. Thats why its a mirage to catch it.

[@Jojo8.]

They can't rely on The Last Of Us 2 ultra remake definitive edition for ever if they plan on getting close to 160 million lol

[@agc2801]

😂 DVD craze… games sell consoles this has been proven time and time again. There have been better consoles than the Switch or the PS2 but they’re the best selling consoles of all time for their libraries.

[@gamerstimes127]

@@agc2801 DVD players were more expensive than the PS2

[@Bobo12300]

“Hey Nintendo, you may be peaking now but remember when I PEAKED 20 years ago”-Sony

[@HylianBull]

And they haven't peaked since.

[@agc2801]

Is that cooping? 8 years ago nobody gave a cent or hope for Nintendo times change buddy, Sony is still strong and Nintendo too. That’s good for gamers.

[@digidex4557]

Mario: Weird flex, but okay

[@HylianBull]

@@agc2801 Not coping. I'm happy when there is good competition. Sony should be proud of those numbers but it just seems like they lost their way in recent years.

[@megabassxz]

Nintendo is peaking now? Remember, they no longer have a handheld console now. They are far cry now from what they were selling before. Wii + DS = 256 million in sales. That was their peak. Compare that to just 146 million sales for Switch, and you see how much they've lost in sales.

[@ParadoxalDream]

Sony finds more DVD player sales hidden under their bed.

[@crobinson2624]

146 millions Switches sold. No Price Cuts. 😅

[@geezus7833]

says alot about the fanbase

[@crobinson2624]

@ and the quality of the product.

[@Medachod]

​@@crobinson2624 Yeah. Bro is trying to be funny, but forgetting it's impressive the Switch pushes so many units with a consistent price. Bet they'd change gears if the story had Sony at the helm.

[@marcheharvey2301]

​@@geezus7833700$ PS5 Pro what does that say about PS fanboys?

[@AG30]

Switch lite, switch, switch oled 3 different price points all counting as the “switch”

[@freakingriddle]

It's funny cause for PS1 it says the exact years that it was sold though for ps2 they just say "since 2000", they avoid to say that it was being sold for over 11 years (the biggest lifespan of a console). PS2 was bought for DVD player and most of them were hacked, thats why people buying them back then and thats why the games sales are unequal to the system sales.

[@solonepeon5805]

Nicely pointed out on the games sale.

[@Pablo-ny5mp]

The games sales are also totally made up. You can wikipedia it, Sony states over 1.5B games sold on PS2...Its most sold game was GTA:SA at about 17M Now look at Nintendo. 1.3B games sold on the Switch, being Mario Kart the most sold at 62+M...

[@strykah92]

​@@Pablo-ny5mp oh boy, the 'look at the sales of the best selling game alone' discourse again. Different people can buy a video game platform for an entirely different library to someone else, as a result there were over 300 PS2 games that sold over a million copies. If you're part of the Nintendo echo chamber who only invests in a handful of the exact same 1st party games as each other, then that might be why the premise is lost on you. So while you may think you were onto something with a reductionist argument, no, it's not made up, and you certainly can not "go and Wikipedia it".

[@Pablo-ny5mp]

@ Oh boy, the ‘do not touch my PS’ discourse again. Keep finding excuses for your made up figures. Yeah sure, I am the one in the echo chamber, and using basic logic is now simplistic. You are disconnected from reality.

[@aaronking9332]

They're counting resales on the secondary market based on guesses lol

[@Sir_Psych]

"Remember 20 years ago when we were cool?!"

[@Nobody-w8n4s]

My 21 year old makes me feel dated. I gotta break out my Avirex and timbs to remind her who tf I am.

[@Jahranimo_]

@@Nobody-w8n4s AVIREX oh buddy lol

[@Gravy1255]

PS4 did extremely well and so is the PS5. Nintendo hasn't had a good selling system since the Wii...

[@williammoore1030]

@@Gravy1255The switch has sold more than the Wii, by like a lot.

[@agc2801]

They still are…but yeah not as cool as those days.

[@AndresLionheart]

What's stopping Nintendo from saying the DS actually sold 161 million but they didn't update the number because they didn't care or something? Who is checking these numbers?

[@solonepeon5805]

No worries, we all know they are posting fake numbers. They had years to declare it but never did, so it just shows how petty they are.

[@jmtradbr]

Source: Trust me bro

[@QuantumChrist]

Nintendo doesn't care. It's just Sony is pathetic, and Nintendo just laughing at them 😁

[@mappybc6097]

​@QuantumChrist 😂. Why do you think you still don't have a Switch 2 announcement cookie? Nintendo wants that milestone just as bad.

[@QuantumChrist]

@mappybc6097 , You know why? Cause Nintendo switch already sold 10+ million unit this year and they expected to sold 15+ more in upcoming years... Nintendo doesn't care about milestone, they only care about money.... Nintendo is not Sony, sony is pathetic.

[@FatAlbert1020]

Guarantee Sonys holding a PS2 Classic in the vault just waiting for the Switch to surpass that 160 million number

[@crimsonemperor2219]

That's what I'm hoping for. Re-release it with better internet connectivity and bring back physically ps2 game runs to boost sales

[@PulseOfMe]

ps2 classic wont count as ps2 sales, itll be its own thing like the NES/SNES classic and PS classic. unless it will have all its original hardware and be able to read ps2 discs but most likely itll just be an emulation box.

[@Marshmallow-ht8me]

Switch isn’t passing PS2 so you don’t have to worry your little heart.

[@jaimegarcia767]

​@crimsonemperor2219 it's called retroarch or pcsx2 😂

[@crimsonemperor2219]

​@@jaimegarcia767i already us pcsx2 and still own and use my old PS2. I still want them to bring back the PS2 regardless

[@LordSpleach]

This is just a "Kid unplugs arcade machine to stop someone from beating their high score" maneuver.

[@Physicalchemistry15151]

Just a reminder. Nintendo has now gotten within the PS2 sales numbers TWICE.

[@yoozernaim]

Nope

[@OTPulse]

Without a DVD player. Solely as a games machine.

[@RobertHarris---]

just a reminder. ps2-ps5 have been leading the console market since 2000

[@Nerm176]

Handhelds don’t count lil bro 😂

[@ChiruKobra]

@@RobertHarris--- I especially loved how they came in 1st on the 7th gen... oh wait. At least they're ahead on this gen... Oh, wait.

[@rei1556]

they better find more where those came from because switch wouldn't magically stop selling and have its production line stopped just because the switch 2 is released, even 3ds didn't stop selling even a few years after the switch

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

Nintendo said they have a 10 year life for the switch. We are at 8 years, so they still have 2 years to keep it up.

[@barcster2003]

​@inamorta47-playertwist well they defintely have at least one past the switch 2 because they can mass price cut.

[@MatthewAvalos1]

The Switch could maybe catch the PS2, but I think they’ll have to cut prices for it a good amount.

[@Packin-Heat.]

We'll just deduct the Switch Lite because it's only a handheld anyway so it doesn't count. 👍

[@dapperfan44]

I see Nintendo stopping production because they've done it before. They stopped making GameCube when the Wii released, they stopped making Wii U when the Switch released. Maybe, MAYBE they made a few Wii Minis into the Wii U's life, but I don't see them continuing to manufacture 3 models of Switch when Switch 2 releases.

[@NiGHTS1980]

Nintendo: We just sold 161 million Switches. Sony: We have now sold 170 million PS2s.

[@michaelballack3051]

This will not happen. There are reports of these 160 million sales from 5 years ago from various sources. Sony just never made it official until now

[@xxargonautxx9790]

@@michaelballack30515 years ago yet the console over 20 years old. Yeah calling BS bro. This info would boost their ps4 numbers if they announced it. They did it now and brought to light when nintendo cracked 140 million with Jim. Dude fucking sony more ways than one.

[@NiGHTS1980]

@michaelballack3051 Yeah nah. They were at 150 million until the DS was approaching that. Then they bumped it to 155 million and the DS finished at 154. Same thing happening again.

[@Pablo-ny5mp]

@@NiGHTS1980 THIS. I do remember.

[@juanme555]

more like: Nintendo : We just sold 160.000.001 Switches. Sony : We have sold 700 Billion PlayStation 2's.

[@abroZ13]

What makes the switch sales numbers more impressive compared to the PS2 is the fact that back in the day there were no smart devices to compete with. Now everyone has a portable console in their pocket. Competition is much more fierce nowadays. Secondly, DVDs were all the rage back then and Sony capitalized huge on that with the ps2. And last but not least, Nintendo sold a boatload, and then some, first party software on the switch. Figures that were unheard of back then. For example the best Selling first party PS2 game was gran Turismo 3 a spec which sold 14,89m units. To put that into perspective: it would place 14th in Nintendo's current best Selling first party list on the switch.

[@alicevioleta3184]

i want to agree, but i do think switch was a massive scam. no backwards compatibility with old systems at all? nintendo who have been king of backwards compatibility, marketing the switch as a system which can be handheld, and then not allowing any ds games on it? it sucks. also, the hardware durability is objectively inferior. i guarantee a lot of those sales are for replacement consoles for previous owners, which would not be as true for the ps2. i'm interested to see how many unique owners there are for the switch vs ps2.

[@1lik3Fir33mbl3m]

​@@alicevioleta3184 btw the PS2 also was pretty frail, just so you know.

[@angelvillegas9604]

​@@alicevioleta3184lmao same applies to the ps2 by your logic

[@crazedlunatic43]

@@alicevioleta3184 The reason why the Switch isn’t remotely backwards compatible with its direct predecessor, lies with the distinct architecture used on the Switch. Wii U previously used a familiar PPC (PowerPC) architecture that was actually a beefed up Wii (which in turn, was a beefed up GameCube) whereas the switch now uses ARM instead. To have built in backwards compatibility would mean raising the price higher just for a backwards compatible Switch (Nintendo intended it to be as dirt cheap as possible) and the overall specs aren’t powerful enough to emulate its direct predecessor either.

[@PixelPikmin]

Sony’s just bs’ing at this point, 5 million units more than the original number is insane like how do you happen to find out the console sold 5 million more units conveniently as a direct competitor comes close to surpassing the numbers

[@yoozernaim]

What "original" number are you referring to exactly? Vgchartz had the ps2 around 160mil and they're probably off by a little.

[@geezus7833]

these are the official numbers sold, go cry about it somewhere else

[@therealjaystone2344]

I think Jim is rounding up to 10. 158,7m is close to 160.

[@Hamood113]

Probably didn’t care enough to update it before

[@B34R117]

@@yoozernaim the number Sony originally posted. Ask ChatGPT for PlayStation 2 sales numbers and then the site, it will link vgchartz and sony investor relations. ChatGPT's info was cut off in October 2023, before Sony falsified information

[@joshxx1]

Sega CEO said today that Dreamcast sold 170 million more consoles that were not reported.

[@ドリフト180X]

Even more breaking news, Atari just announced the Lynx actually sold 200 million! Unbelievable!

[@yoozernaim]

😂​@@ドリフト180X

[@solonepeon5805]

No it sold 350 million. IGN just confirmed it today.

[@MaximillianRobesphere]

Probably from thrift stores lol

[@agc2801]

To themselves 😂

[@RetroCheats]

OVER 160. This means they will update this number higher as the switch gets closer

[@yoozernaim]

Good. They should, I want to see the actual number

[@RetroCheats]

@@yoozernaim At this point, I would not be surprised if Sony started making more PS2 just to stay #1

[@Mrjonnyjonjon123]

Nintendo congratulations, we just sold 160 million switches :D Sony: Um actually we sold 160 million +1 PS2s 🤓

[@vkThor]

​@@RetroCheatsI hope they do. I would buy a few every month and sell cheaper just for fun

[@vayeate23]

We all know 160M is bullshit

[@SEMIA123]

We totally found a bunch of new customers. They're super hot too. You can't see them though, because they go to a different economy.

[@Lloyal23]

One correction is standalone DVD players were significantly more expensive than PS2 on launch.

[@Mr.Peanut1986]

Yes

[@jsr734]

Only at launch. After launch, they got super cheap for less than $100

[@mr_m4613]

I call BS, theres no way you could sell 5 million ps2s 12 years AFTER discontinuation.

[@yoozernaim]

@@mr_m4613 Where do you get 5 million from? Vgchartz had it at about 159mil. So 160mil+ Isn't hard to believe. Why so salty?

[@therealjaystone2344]

@@yoozernaim158,7m

[@minecrafter3448]

@@yoozernaimit was last updated at 155m end of fiscal year 2012, and was discontinued in January 2013 with those last 9 months never reported. You’re trying to tell me a 12 year old console sold 5 million in 9 months? The dang switch will struggle to sell 5 million NEXT YEAR IN ITS ENTIRETY.

[@yoozernaim]

@@minecrafter3448 I've stated my source. Where's yours? My source says about 159mil and they could be off by some, obviously. So 160mil+ isn't hard to believe especially when people who actually work at Sony are saying g it themselves. Am I supposed to think they're lying and instead believe some random guy in the comments of a yewtewb vid?

[@yoozernaim]

@@therealjaystone2344 Jim Ryan said it's over 160mil. He worked at Sony, I'll take his word over yours. Their page was just updated as well and it says over 160mil and Jim Ryan has been gone for awhile now. So disregard all of that but believe you Instead?

[@jakesmith5278]

It's been 155m for over a decade but noe changed...seems fishy.

[@camil3545]

yeah, i remember seeing it as only a sliver ahead of the DS (154m) for years, now its suddenly at 160m?

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

You mad ? 🌝

[@caliburnblade7895]

It's harder to sell one home console per household vs a per person handheld. In one home you only need one ps2, but a whole household can have 2-3 people have one switch each. Some even have 2-3 switches per person. Nintendo will stick to the handheld style console, they've captured the super casual.

[@Pablo-ny5mp]

@@caliburnblade7895 It's easier to sell a DVD player to a household.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

It’s all a bit convenient for Sony to suddenly announced that the PS2 sold 160 million.

[@devonjames7999]

wait so let me get this straight sony can remember your unit sales of your best console, but cant remember to preserve and bring back all the IPs that got them their unit sales? pffff....get this company out of here disgraceful...All this number toting means nothing if your gonna continue to spread mediocrity around and not make a better future.

[@crimsonemperor2219]

You know what would be an even bigger troll? If they rereleased the PS2 entirely just to inflate those numbers even more for those that want the nostalgia hit Edit: an even better idea would be a rerelease with HDMI out, better internet connectivity, getting rid of its region lock on games, and accuratly translate and uncensor Japanese exclusive games

[@slamjamtime202]

@@crimsonemperor2219 I think this would be embraced by the retro community if they did something like Anologue and released something high quality

[@MrTrebol4hojas]

Seeing the ps1 classic and how they treat ps1/ps2 games on ps5 i thini u asking them too much 😅😅

[@agc2801]

I would buy a ps2 classic immediately just don’t do the same thing as the lame ps1 classic.

[@crimsonemperor2219]

@@MrTrebol4hojas asking too much? Bro, I'm asking them to do the bare minimum, that is to care about their own past and their consumer base............. On second thought, you are right. Like hell a company would want to please the fans and rake in money

[@yoozernaim]

I'd buy another release of the ps2 in a heartbeat

[@Benji-Lindz]

I am so unbelievably tired of Sony's attitude and pretentiousness this generation.

[@thelarry383]

so glad how pro consumer and friendly nintendo has been. can't get tired of that

[@yoozernaim]

Nintendo is hot garbage. Their online experience socks compared to what Xbox and Playstation offers.

[@knuclear200x]

The Switch is nothing but rereleases and bad ports. They're just as much arrogant for relying on their own brand

[@dragonbreathmediamelodies6884]

Yoozer ​​⁠comparing a 100 dollar service to a 20 dollar service is so misinformed and cringe It’s a good service for the price it offers

[@TheInfiniteNine]

It's pretty reflective of how the sony playstation fanboys behave. No wonder.

[@Hugoisbuff]

Little does Sony know the ps2 sold well because it actually had a library of games worth playing, unlike the ps5

[@jimmyju76]

Hey Sony, remember when Nintendo trampled your handhelds constantly with an "inferior" machine?

[@Kennosuke88]

The switch is still an underpowered piece of shit though!... It was outdated the moment it was released😂, thank god for the new handheld PC market that's going on right now this gen!

[@DankMemeCenterX]

​@@Kennosuke88Selling to the 1% of the pc marketplace 🤣

[@nahte123456]

I mean in fairness every generation, both hand held and console, a inferior machine has won I'm fairly certain. Like PS2 was not stronger then Xbox unless I'm mixing up specs.

[@ColdintheShade]

@@Kennosuke88 but did it make a dent to the Switch sales?

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@nahte123456 PS4 was more powerful than Xbox one.

[@griffmendez]

When Switch Lites are $99 next year, that PS2 record is toast.

[@mavericksetsuna7396]

Not with the chip shortage.

[@SourStrawberrys]

Switch lites alone will come nowhere close to the PS2 sales. You cannot include the switch lite sales into the normal Nintendo switch console. Those are two difference consoles. That is like including the PS3 sales into the ps2 console sales. Just because the OG launch version of the ps3 was backwards compatible and could play ps2 games does not mean those are the same consoles.

[@jr2904]

​@@SourStrawberrys what? Switch and switch lite play the same games

[@nickwillard4471]

​@@SourStrawberrys That's just not true man. The switch lite is the same console as the switch. If we can't consider the switch lite as the same console as the switch then the series x and s are different consoles. The PS5 physical and digital editions are different consoles. The PSP Go was a different console back in the day. The New 3ds was a separate console to the regular 3ds. See how ridiculous that sounds?

[@misaafton]

​@SourStrawberrys Idk both use the same hardware including joycon components The switch lite like is just a switch with the controllers built in and video output removed

[@trenthk]

so sony is lying about sales numbers just because they want the arbitrary title of best selling game console? if it had really sold 160M they would've put those numbers out over 10 years ago

[@thefinalday5858]

The most most successful DVD player

[@k3tupat1978]

😅

[@thefinalday5858]

@@iaqh parents have bought their children a Nintendo for over 30 years Now those children buy their children Nintendo Because nothing is stronger than family

[@SamM_Scot]

Sony are so petty is actually funny 🤣

[@jcart816]

Petty for celebrating their fucking anniversary 🙂‍↔️ nintendogs are on one. And the title is fucking clickbait

[@Renzo_Benzo]

moving the goal post is so petty ☠

[@agc2801]

😂

[@Packin-Heat.]

Not as petty as trying to include the Switch Lite.

[@lordrikudouzero9119]

@@Packin-Heat.no it’s not, stop trying to push that narrative. The lite is a Switch without the hybrid option. You can separate the two for certain but it’s not like the difference between a PS5 and PS5 Pro. Same chipset, & game library.

[@Medachod]

​@@lordrikudouzero9119 Plus, nobody complained when the Game Boy did this.

[@Castanos0721]

@@Medachodbecause ONLY Nintendo does this! 😂

[@thierrys85]

It actually says "OVER" 160m consoles sold. So whenever Switch hits 160m, they can just say "oh well PS2 actually sold 165m" or something. The pettiness is maximum cringe.

[@agc2801]

I get it the switch should’ve released the 2-3 years ago, the record chasing itself is cringe and bothersome on both ends.

[@propeldragon]

Like this comment 😂

[@Packin-Heat.]

The Switch Lite handheld doesn't count lol. Nintendo is cheating.

[@Packin-Heat.]

@@thierrys85 The actual number is 160,636,885

[@Packin-Heat.]

@@thierrys85 The real pettiness is trying to include the switch lite though.

[@OkrimX]

Fun fact: Nintendo sold more copies of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, than Sony sold copies of the PS5.

[@WesleyKHM]

@@OkrimX Ahh yes, the old I sold more copies in 10 years than you did in 4 years. Fanboys are so obnoxious.

[@Pablo-ny5mp]

@@WesleyKHM Yeah, like the PS2 needed 13 years and some lying to achieve what DS achieved in 7 years. Look in the mirror.

[@takerukurosawa2337]

Keep crying nintentard

[@tenzaemtade6146]

For kids

[@OkrimX]

@@WesleyKHM I have to disappoint you. I own a PS1,2,3,4,5, PSP, PS -Vita, SNES, N64, Game Cube, WII, WIIU, GB, GC, GBA, DS, 3DS and a switch. This has nothing to do with being a fanboy. Please stop projecting your behavior on me. Have a nice day.

[@Oryon7]

Sony just trolled... themselves. The more they keep "extending" their total figures, they just keep giving Nintendo more time to sell more Switches over time, if they play by Sony's rules. So when Switch 4 launches, Nintendo would have sold through 180 Million Switches. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@AustinT97]

Is it petty? Sure. Does it suprise me? Absolutely not.

[@barcster2003]

I'm not even sure its going to work.

[@agc2801]

I just want the Switch 2 to be released and for the PS5 Pro to be discounted with an improved library. My day one Switch feels as old as my PS2 at this point, and the PS5 feels like an expensive PS4.

[@yumascla]

Wait till nintendo is at about 158 million and sony wiill find spare change and say wait a minute we found 15 million more for a total of 175 million 😅😅😅

[@RhythmGrizz]

Dont care what anyone says--its sus as hell how they keep happening to be able to "confirm" higher and higher ps2 numbers as Switch closes in on it

[@leviwarren6222]

Nintendo needs to make this race too big to rig.

[@mr_m4613]

They are because the switch 2 will continue the switch sales.

[@leviwarren6222]

@@mr_m4613 WOOO! Second term!

[@ドリフト180X]

lol Sony trucking in dropping them surprise 4am numbers

[@mr_m4613]

@@leviwarren6222 exactly

[@knuclear200x]

They'll just sell a wii game again and win. Oh look, more Nintendo Music KZbin already has. They win again

[@NoxxyTK]

Only people capable of trolling Nintendo is Nintendo

[@bigduke5902]

@@NoxxyTK Corporations aren't people, Adolf.

[@PixelShade]

It's kind of crazy how well the PS2 sold. I never had much fondness for the console, and I always preferred the other ones (Dreamcast, Gamecube and XBOX). Personally, I always got a sketchy unattractive feeling from games, many suffered from interlacing, and early on many games tried to mitigate this by using a smeary and dreadful frame-buffer motion blur. It also often had the worst versions of games. Yet, with all the downsides it still sold like hot cakes. My take is that Sony was able to push down pricing with time, making the console an insane value since it came packed with a DVD-player. I think a lot of people was sold on that proposition back in the 2000's. And you could REALLY tell that for Sony it was not only about gaming, but it was also about conquering and owning the media market for video and movies. Which they manage to do.

[@SafeForPandas]

There’s a photo floating around the internet of the supposed commemorative final unit produced which lists 160,636,885 pcs produced. If we assume all of those “shipped” (which is being very generous), then for the “sold” figure to be £160m+ means the PS2 must have had an incredibly low failure rate for so few of that figure to not be service replacement units.

[@deejdarkstar]

Who gives a shit about the PS2 sales

[@elmasheavy89]

What’s next ???? Sony will say that Concord actually sold 25 million copies, instead of 25 thousand the last day it was shut down ????

[@propeldragon]

Smelling too much paint? 😅

[@vkThor]

Quit coke bro

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

Coke or Tranq ?🌝

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Or Sony will try to say Spider-Man 2 actually sold 23 million copies

[@Wes_Trippy4life]

weirdo

[@serxads5761]

It's funny how Sony is more interested in maintaining their passed record, instead of making a new one with ps5 by releasing and selling more games.

[@sean70729]

All I've been waiting on is more games that I actually like

[@Wes_Trippy4life]

🤓🤓🤡🤡🤡

[@Stopper33]

Nintendo gives zero fucks. They could drop the switch to 70$ like the ps2 was, and sell 200 million units. They'd rather keep the cash.

[@avocadeous]

This is what people don’t get. Nintendo doesn’t care about some random arbitrary title like ‘best selling videogame console’. If they did they probably would’ve blown past that number ages ago. The reason they haven’t is because (surprise!) Nintendo wants to sell consoles at full price for as long as they can get away with so they can make a bunch of money.

[@shamisocarpenter7679]

That is the problem. They are never going to drop the switch to $70. They are greedy. And I'm pretty sure Nintendo does care. That is a record milestone that they cannot reach despite including several variations of their consoles into their numbers meanwhile they are competing against one console. The switch lite should not be including in those sells. The switch is a hybrid console and the switch lite is a handheld only. Why don't ps start including their ps vita into their console sales if that is the case.

[@Stopper33]

@shamisocarpenter7679 you're deluding yourself if you think Sony dropped the price to help you out. They dropped the price out of necessity. Market demand has allowed them to maintain a profitable price on switch. PS2 demand softened so Sony had to drop the price. If Sony could have sold 140 million PS2 at 299 they would have, but they couldn't. Nintendo can. A meaningless milestone means nothing to a company. Profit does.

[@strykah92]

​@@Stopper33to be fair, console price drops were more of a formality for all consoles during the PS2's lifespan. In fact the Gamecube's retail price eventually dropped to $49 and it still could not catch up to even the OG Xbox despite Microsoft ceasing production on it over a year before Nintendo did on the GC. Now before anyone gets angry at me for pointing that out, Microsoft actually lost far more money than Nintendo did that generation which goes to show hardware sales alone aren't necessarily the ultimate measure of a platform's success anyway.

[@HylianBull]

At this point Sony has so little to hold on to that it would be just pitiful if they lost that PS2 sales record.

[@Gravy1255]

PS4 selling 115 million isn't impressive? GameCube, N64, WiiU all flopped. Sony's only "flop" is ps3 and it still sold alot

[@HylianBull]

​@@Gravy1255The numbers are impressive. I bought a PS2. Like John said, it had everything people wanted in one unit. If it didn't have that DVD or Blu-ray player, you think it would have hit those numbers?

[@pedrogoncalves4585]

​@@Gravy1255ds, 3ds, switch, Wii gameboy sold more than most Sony consoles

[@metro9640]

​@@pedrogoncalves4585The only PS console the 3DS outsold was the Vita what are you talking about

[@agc2801]

🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m not happy with Sony this past months either, and the pro was a stab in the back but, no Sony is thriving.

[@inranglhood60]

PS2 sales numbers are video game's best fish story. 154.7mil, no! 155mil, 158mil, 160mil!!!! Barely any of the sales records show the same number. Just say 300mil while making up sh*t...

[@geezus7833]

those sales numbers arent given out by sony themselves, but are rough estimations done by media outlets

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@geezus7833 ⬆️

[@michaelballack3051]

Your understanding of where these numbers come from is the same understanding I have of quantum physics. Zero

[@qb3540]

One thing Nintendo have that Sony will never achieve is that Nintendo can make successful consoles with or without third party support.

[@tenzaemtade6146]

Too many kids

[@muunprince1992]

​@@iaqh Nintendo is basically the sanrio of gaming at this point

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

@@tenzaemtade6146 you’re not very bright are you? Nintendo didn’t sell 146 million Switch systems to just kids.

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@iaqhThen where were all of those children and manchildren in the Wii U era where they sold 10% of the Switch’s sales? I’m sure many of them were playing XB1/PS4, since those were better platforms, and I’m sure you wouldn’t have any issue counting those kids as part of those console user bases. Clearly their audience is pretty far reaching.

[@jsr734]

Nintendo learned with the N64 that is very difficult to push a console´s sales all by themsefves. Even if the 3rd party sorware is not the most of the sales it still helps to get the attention from cosumers that are not interested in Nintendo´s IPs.

[@ChristianJDY]

I think it was both. Sony has history with doing this in the past.

[@barcster2003]

Yeah they like to fudge numbers. No matter what it shows Sony is panicked and they can't "revise" the numbers more now. Sony will just make switch the bigger top dog.

[@elmasheavy89]

They intentionally created this website as a coverup to mysteriously update the PS2 sales numbers.

[@Nucleric]

Final Fantasy 12 on the PS2 was a great achievement in my opinion!

[@NightFlyStudio]

No they didn't troll Nintendo. I do find it weird that you wait 11 years to update your sales figures and when you do it's an flat figure like 160 Million, but either way Switch has 5 years left to outsell the PS2 if we're comparing time on the market. It will be around 152 Million by March. Do what that information what you will.

[@oramirez7725]

Nintendo should show how much software they sold . Mic dropped 🫳 🎤

[@randocalrissian9217]

Nintendo: The kings of re-releases

[@mr_m4613]

They already did at the past financial investors meeting 3 weeks ago.

[@randocalrissian9217]

@@oramirez7725 I bet they’re going to put out a 4k remaster of tears of the kingdom when switch 2 comes out at $80

[@oramirez7725]

@randocalrissian9217 i would probably buy it too for the collection lol

[@trashaimgamer7822]

@@randocalrissian9217 *cough* The Last of US *cough*

[@johndlr]

How do we know its actually 160 million, are they rounding up from 146 million? That is such a perfect number, nothing is exactly a rounded number when it comes to sales.

[@scottneil1187]

Can you not read?, it says OVER 160 million.

[@noperopepope]

Thinking about buying a Switch lite just to troll back at Sony. Only need 10m more Switches to surpass the PS2 😂.

[@georged7627]

I am a Nintendo and Sega nerd but my first dvd player was a PlayStation 2 with Joe Dirt

[@jsr734]

It was my first DVD player too, but then i bought a standalone DVD player because they were super cheap. I got mine for $35

[@ProtoMario]

Let's see thhe numbers without the DVD player built in...

[@Hyper_Drud]

There were PS2s without built in DVD players?

[@RGT85]

No Jon. These are businesses. They aren't like Twitter console fanboys who are hurt by sales numbers.

[@earlmcnulty4665]

You don’t know that.

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

Companies can get petty. Nintendo taught you that RGT.

[@crimsonemperor2219]

Just leaving a comment here, RGT seems like a lightning rod for toxic interactions and I cant miss out on that action lol

[@DS9TREK]

You think there are zero console fanboys working at Sony??? There must be a few at least!

[@joejohnson2458]

Jokes on you my uncle John Nintendo told me that they are very hurt by this update and will delay the next system by 5 years

[@sebaciclon20]

It was always 155 million, now Switch is approaching and magically it is 160 million, while I was writing this it reached 165 million🤡🤡🤡

[@avocadeous]

Oh would you look at that! I just found five million more PS2s in my garage that I bought back in 2019 at a shady factory in the middle of Oklahoma. Better bump the number up to 170, Sony!

[@donquitotalrecall]

The over 155 million they reported was over a year before stopping production, once they stopped, the last PS2 produced was engraved with the total number, which was a bit over 160 million. It's been like that for the last 10 years, but everyone kept reporting the previous number.

[@SA13wastaken]

Do you guys know what would be the most epic troll to Nintendo by Sony? A permanent price drop above $100 for the PS5 and more than three exclusives that make the console worth buying

[@SeddyAm]

They won't because concord wasted their money so much they're desperate to get the money back bey making every money they have up

[@agc2801]

Yes, please. We need better games made for this gen and a price drop on both ps5 and the pro that’s why the ps2 was so loved and the ps4 had a good run.

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@SeddyAm Made that up with Helldivers lol

[@SeddyAm]

@Thanosdidtherighthing helldivers 2 isn't available on my country

[@amygeer2217]

I get the feeling that Sony is just desperate at this point.

[@Tom-yz3op]

People doubting ps2 legs definitely live in a first world country. Shit was selling like pancakes in South America deep into ps3 and even ps4 lifecycle. Switch might be able to pull something similar but with the advent of mobile gaming I don’t see a home console taking up that space in countries with a lower purchasing power.

[@StiffAftermath]

Ps2 did in 20+ years of lifetime sales, what Switch almost did in 7 years. Lol. Let's wait 24 years and see...

[@MudSluggerBP]

In over 5 years less on sale, the Switch has sold within 80 million units of software compared to PS2.

[@valdelicesantos8802]

Switch 1.3 Bilhão de jogos vendidos PS2 1.5 a 1.6 Bilhão de jogos vendidos

[@rodrigo53]

Video starts at 13:06 Yes, everything before that was waffle.

[@derpeonls6711]

Thank you sir

[@alicevioleta3184]

wrong. "waffling" is such a pretentious term.

[@raiHo15]

Sony is full of crap

[@hewhosays7979]

When they feel threatened they somehow pull off millions of sales more, it's so fake hahaha

[@rcmatheus02]

Nintendo: We're reaching 160 million. Sony: Ok, guys. Increase this number adding the sales of all Playstations generations we ever made.

[@sean70729]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@Wes_Trippy4life]

yall Nintendo fans are freakin weird 😂

[@SlickTater]

It would be wild if Nintendo manufactured enough Switches to pass the ps2 by a few million, announce the Super Switch, then announce a price cut to the original Switch to $100 just to beat the sales record

[@GamingDelight]

$100 for the Lite, $150-$200 for the regular and/or OLED. Either way, it should help the standard Switch surpass the PS2 while the new Switch is on the market.

[@barcster2003]

I think that will happen. Nintendo easily has at least 1 year after switch 2 because of a massive price drop.

[@QuantumChrist]

Nintendo is not petty like Sony 🤭

[@RunkkuRusina]

I mean that's how they could just clear stock. They easily still have millions of switches in storage and have to get rid of them somehow.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

It’s not gonna be called that stupid name super switch it’s just gonna be called Switch 2!

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

Who cares, PS2 is Yesterday's News 😂🤐🤘

[@Kubush1]

Sony continues embarrassing themselves

[@therisingdyingidiot8022]

People bought PS2 for a affordable DVD player.

[@jsr734]

Nah, there were cheaper DVD´s. Mine costed $35.

[@IndubitablyRetro]

I’m sure Nintendo will blow past 160 million much sooner than Sony so it’s safe to say they trolled themselves.

[@propeldragon]

They just updated their numbers, chill 😂

[@jefp65]

Its Sony's 30th Anniversary. This has nothing to do with Nintendo

[@IndubitablyRetro]

@@jefp65 his video title literally references Nintendo lol.

[@jefp65]

@@IndubitablyRetro He is also stupid for making this about Nintendoo

[@jefp65]

@IndubitablyRetro If you told John your mother had cancer he would try to make it about Nintendo.

[@UnagiWatanabe]

Sony's full of crap.

[@TheCreator919]

Cope harder

[@alejandrocastaneda8470]

@@TheCreator919 hahaahahaha, say that to a mirror, buddy XDDD master copers are from sony, ALWAYS they cope the ps5-pro, they cope the ps portal, they cope the psvr and the psvr2 they cope his remake-remaster-ultra-plus ultimate edition, they cope ANYTHING

[@scottneil1187]

Not as much as Nintendo.

[@takerukurosawa2337]

​@@alejandrocastaneda8470 gonna cry?

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

@@scottneil1187 keep coping while Nintendo keeps winning 🤣🤣

[@EPS5000]

I got a Sega Saturn instead of a Sony PlayStation.

[@alejofox10]

Sorry that happened to you. Buy I hope you still got it, that would be pretty cool.

[@jegjrtp87]

Smh

[@bigduke5902]

@@EPS5000 Game Sack is my favorite KZbin channel, Joe! Keep up the good work!

[@nerdlywacko]

based

[@EPS5000]

@@alejofox10 The Saturn had some of the best fighting games, plus Nights Into Dreams.

[@hdjir]

If Nintendo cuts the price to $99 it’s over, I know people that want a Switch but it’s too expensive for them.

[@MorMacFey-v2g]

Sony saying anything to make people not look at them today. Just now an old dog on a porch talking about when they did something.

[@JackOLanter]

Sony is like that chick who peaked in highschool and keeps reminding everyone how cool and hot she was. They haven't gotten over it. 😂😂😂😂 I wouldn't be surprised they find another 10 million units under the bed. 😂😂😂

[@AL-up8lj]

Yea just like your mother 😂

[@Wes_Trippy4life]

weirdo

[@Rickardt0]

Sony can tout the number all they want, but the PS2 was in production worldwide for 13 years. Switch has almost caught them in almost less than half the time.

[@thelarry383]

there are way more gamers in the mainstream now than there were before. apples to oranges

[@yoozernaim]

​@@thelarry383Yup plus c19 and people being stuck at home gave the switch a MASSIVE boost I sales, something the ps2 did not benefit from.

[@Roweon]

@@thelarry383back then DVDs were taking off and PS2 was one of the cheapest dvd players. So I think that cancels out the COVID spike switch had

[@jefp65]

Switch won't surpass the DS let alone PS2 so you Nintendo fanboys need to calm down. The fact that PS2 kept selling after PS3 came out is a positive not a negative. Switch wont sell once Switch 2 is announced.

[@anthonyd4309]

@@jefp65 history says otherwise.

[@MrValgard]

so they will just keep rise number? Sony scaming nombers (once they was behind DS and 'count again' ps2 and go ahead)

[@scottneil1187]

Wanna try that again but, you know, legible?.

[@Invisibleman8b5]

And their fan boy can still defend them after all that bs is hilarious, make you wonder how thick people can be.

[@greyb.8046]

I love competition between companies. Means they can't slack off. But this? You're not competing, you're using past glory to make up a reason why you can't get up off your ass, Sony. When current gen sales are expected to outshine your ps2, then gloat. As it is, the switch is the current best console in sales, despite being barely ps4 level in strength. Not even that.

[@scottneil1187]

It's nowhere near ps4 level, it's barely ps3 level.

[@Mr_Flopp-c8j]

Sure, a lot of people here are talking about how the PS2 was a cheap DVD player and how it contributed to its total numbers, but the real problem was the PS2 piracy in all of the non-developed countries and how it was a massive blow to sony in the 2000s, especially cause everybody had one. Sure, switch piracy exists, but it isn't as common as it was with the PS2. In most of the third world countries in the 2000s, buying a jailbroken PS2 wasn't that expensive as buying a jailbroken switch nowadays (with today's money). Also remember the difference in price between dvds (cheap) and micro sd cards (expensive).

[@jsr734]

Sadly "third world countries" are not even considered as a "market" fot those corporations (Nintendo, Sony or even MS). So if they pirated or not should not affect their sales in the markets that really count as "NA, EU, JP".

[@blast_processing6577]

PS2 console sales may exceed Switch sales by 15 to 20 million, but a comparison of the best-selling PS2 games against the best-selling Switch games clearly demonstrates that Nintendo is making more money with the Switch overall.

[@minecrafter3448]

The ps2 actually sold more games than the switch, but they were all third party. So yes Sony was making much less money, but they were more popular

[@blast_processing6577]

@@minecrafter3448 You're right and the profit difference between first-party and third-party game sales _is_ what I was getting at, but there's a _possibility_ overall Switch game sales will exceed PS2 game sales in the end. A total of 1.527 billion games were sold for the PS2 and Switch game sales hit 1.3 billion in September of 2024. Interestingly, although there were more titles developed for the PS2, the PS4 has actually sold more games at 1.577 billion. Overall Switch game sales could exceed that in the end too, but maybe not.

[@scottneil1187]

There are vastly more gamers now than back then. When Nintendo has a single game as good as GTA3, Vice City or San Andreas then you can gloat.

[@minecrafter3448]

@@scottneil1187 you evidently misunderstood the core meaning of the comment and started console warring

[@Mr_Flopp-c8j]

​@@blast_processing6577 the problem with the amount of software sold on switch is that it has too many cheap shovelware games. We also gotta remember that the full price for games back in the 2000s was 50$ and now it's 60$~70$. And now, nintendo has the advantage of digital games, in which their profit is much higher, since they don't sell their games to a reseller (walmart, best buy, gamestop...), of course, they still sell physical games, but it's not the majority anymore.

[@silversonic1]

I call BS. Unless independent sales tracking can back it up, I won't accept an executive's random quote as fact.

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

Yes because random third party estimations will have more reliable numbers than Sony themselves? lol

[@xxargonautxx9790]

@@Thanosdidtherighthingthen explain why they announce the sale figure now? Why? 2025 and they’re wasting resources on ps2 numbers when nintendo nibbing at the heels. Maybe fucking use the cash on good games (concord).

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@xxargonautxx9790 30th anniversary

[@silversonic1]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[@themailman3331]

Sony should redeem themselves for the terrible PlayStation Classic and release a PS2 Classic. Anyone think they might do something like that?

[@matthewLkidder]

Switch has legs, its going to sell the rest of the decade.

[@Likwidfox]

The only reason they stopped trolling Nintendo was they felt bad how it was going. Its game on.

[@janedoe3043]

PS2 sold more for sure. Because most people used it as a DVD or were buying a second one because the first one broke. Take those numbers away, it sold less.

[@yoozernaim]

@@janedoe3043 Just like you can take away all the nintendo switches sold as a result of the p@ndemic and ppl being stuck inside? That's actually what caused the switch sales to spike incase you didn't know. Let me guess, that doesn't count or that's different somehow

[@MrJturner74]

Don't forget all the people who bought a second one when the slim came out.

[@SeddyAm]

​@@yoozernaimlol some sad excuse when at that time the games are so good everyone buys what they like and its on Nintendo when you can buy anything but why ps5 which also release late in that year haven't sold like cup cake, oh wait scalpers 😂

[@yoozernaim]

@@MrJturner74 And what about ppl who double, triple and quadruple dipped with the switch lite and Oled?

[@yoozernaim]

@@SeddyAm No, genius, it was a huge price difference between switch and ps5. Most ppl buying during that time were most likely casuals and just went with the cheaper option.

[@elmasheavy89]

Sony is definitely cooking the books with this statement.

[@skmassive2714]

The wiiu is at 20 million 😅

[@mr_m4613]

Don't they know, the Nintendo DS just sold 10 million last night...

[@__BlacklotuS__]

Sony is full of shit

[@NawiTheCore]

The crazy thing is that if they were to make a PRO version of the PS2, with an overclocked CPU, more RAM, and an increased internal resolution with an HDMI 720/1080 output, it would sell like crazy. That was the best console ever made and still has the best catalogue of games for a single console.

[@mikeuk666]

Sony just making up numbers at this point 😂

[@mr_m4613]

Yeah

[@WindWaker2010]

Fr.

[@bodacious117]

The switch would have blown by 160 million if they had cut the price like Sony did with its early consoles

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

You realize there are more gamers now than back then ?

[@kuma1388]

I recall allot of disc read error ps2s. So how many repeat sales were there?

[@scottneil1187]

Never encountered that or heard about it.

[@Hugoisbuff]

I legit have never encountered that

[@tankdog574]

Well the PS2 was out for 12 years with price cuts. I think Nintendo is doing a great job🤷🏾‍♂️