Awesome job matching the skin tones. I used to criticize Sony skintones like eveyone else. But these new Gen 3 cams (A7RIII/A7III) and even 4th gen (A6400/A7RIV) are much more pleasing straight out of cam (in Natural light)
@theyseemetrollintheycantwi15145 жыл бұрын
Photo-Me-Ike what’s your opinion of the overall look of the Sony photos compared to Nikon, canon etc.
@mujihuz84335 жыл бұрын
"Hey Everyone" - Oh my heart ...
@NickGranville5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I've often felt that people just say Sony's colours are off cause they heard someone else say it and they follow the narrative. Either that or they used the v1 or v2 A7 models which weren't as good. I've always felt colour science is really only a problem if one shoots jpeg and doesn't edit their work.
@thomasbowan78645 жыл бұрын
The color science anyone prefers now days is just a easy post processing fix no matter what camera it comes from. It's just personal preference on what you want... from camera to post processing software. Art is subjective and it's beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@Morespizzle5 жыл бұрын
Its not easy. Hence why wedding photographers will have 2 sets of photos 1 with editing and grading and 1 documentary style. Thats where color science matters. These examples are controlled so it really doesnt matter but bulk editing sony files is a pain in the ass. But I like your quotes of "wokeness" rofl...
@jarrod74653 жыл бұрын
fun little fact with the Sony bodies is you can tune white balance in camera to save on workflow time. For example, I have my auto white balance set to be much warmer than Sony would choose and I also increase the pink for stylistic purposes.
@chelseatheoctavian5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video showing different skin tones of people of color? (Black, Asian, Indian tones) I think that would be a cool video to see the range from the two cameras! 💜✨
@theyseemetrollintheycantwi15145 жыл бұрын
TheOctavian that video will get thumbs downed in a heartbeat. Sad reality
@Photomeike5 жыл бұрын
@@theyseemetrollintheycantwi1514 I would imagine she might have a hard time finding someone not caucasian in Sydney AU, to begin with. That's like going to the GAP looking for the FUBU hats...
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Yes for sure! I can make another video in the future when I have some more examples to share 💛
@theyseemetrollintheycantwi15145 жыл бұрын
Photo-Me-Ike FUBU 😂😂😂 I ain’t no she was in Sydney. Makes sense now
@paulwood67295 жыл бұрын
By implication you think white people are devoid of colour 🤦♂️
@theizza685 жыл бұрын
Sony user here. The Sony skin tones were a lot greener before the the third generation came out. That's when Sony changed their 'color science'. Ironically, canons skin tones are a little green compared to the new Sony models. And this color science matters only if you shoot jpegs because when you process your photos, you're not gonna end up with the same colors SOOC. This bad Sony colors thing will still get brought up even in 5 years from now.
@AllCarsUnited5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. Seems like the color science thing in canons favor coincides with every time they release a underwhelming camera. Marketing hype
@hautehussey4 жыл бұрын
People think it’s just a matter of a single tint one way or the other, but Sony still has more awkward transitions in those mid to lower tones.
@Kthomasritchie5 жыл бұрын
A really important video that needed to be made, Julia. Personally, I found the Sony raw image looking more natural than the Canon. I was quite pleasantly surprised actually.
@Хомяк99ЛВЛ5 жыл бұрын
Sony looks more "pinkish" comparing to Canon even after color correction. Nevertheless, I like Sony more. I'm Canon user btw.
@rogerhuston82875 жыл бұрын
Not true. If you color balance your camera then the Raw photos come out pretty even. If you start with a camera profile then yes they are different but you just have a different path to get to your look. In the end Camera color makes no difference unless you are a person that prints JPGs out of camera or rely on camera profiles for your look. Then again, you can use any preset balanced for your camera to achieve the same result.
@amycasanova7244 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I’m a canon user but I actually liked the pinker tones of the Sony. The heavier green kinda look alittle zombie-ish.
@burritobrosvideos80604 жыл бұрын
I hated that green tint! I sold my canon
@hautehussey4 жыл бұрын
Roger Huston definitely not. Color balance isn’t nearly enough.
@arielshpitzer4 жыл бұрын
SONY IS CRAP. they should focus on the playstation.... still lagging ages behind canon.
@nnix5 жыл бұрын
Sony made major adjustments to color science when the A7r3 came out, and further refinements with the A73. They've gotten a LOT better, but the perception about bad color persists because of how bad their early offerings were.
@stkuj5 жыл бұрын
One thing I have found is that different lens manufacturers have different color temps (I.e. Tamron is generally warmer, Sony cooler, etc)
@jamesyahn5 жыл бұрын
Sigma is cooler toned as well. If I recall right, in theory, the blueish tone reduces chromatic aberrations?
@NickGranville5 жыл бұрын
yeah man, I've noticed that too. Lenses make the biggest difference in terms of skin tones IMO. My favourite for skin tones is my Helios 44-2. That thing just makes skin look superb.
@peterpahn1235 жыл бұрын
Jeah indeed. The color differences in lenses is quite noteable. Even on Lenses from the same family/line. We compared the Canon 24-70 2,8L II and the 70-200 2,8L II which should be pretty much the same. but the magenta was noteable different.
@MichalOlender5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Canon user by starting to like Sony more and more. Thanks for the video Julia!
@Noealz5 жыл бұрын
I'm a canon user but I think Sony wins this round, but a lil lightroom editing fixes that up right away. My fuji blows them both out of the water though =p
@janes11385 жыл бұрын
Don't lie yourself lol 😉
@ahmadreza68185 жыл бұрын
JS MANA CHANNEL exactly what I thought lol
@Size10Soles5 жыл бұрын
He is correct Fuji is so underrated. The colors from Fuji Straight out of Camera are better than Sony for sure. I have had Sony cameras and they are all the same. The skin tones are off. It takes a ton of work to try to fix skin tones.
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
I'm super keen to try Fuji soon!
@markclarisse015 жыл бұрын
Size 10 Soles I don’t know what “a tonne of work is”. Julia literally made 1 -2 minor tweaks.
@AlKulla5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm so sick and tired of people talking about the "Canon skin tones". I used to be a Canon shooter and switched to Sony about a year ago. I shoot weddings and landscapes and I love the way that the Sony looks and edits in both genres, if that makes sense. I enjoy even more how easy it is to quickly get a good color grade in video from the A7 III, I use Cine4.
@jamesyahn5 жыл бұрын
People are so stuck in their ways. Canon used to win Skin Tones HANDS DOWN, but times have evolved and now other manufacturers stepped up their games.
@Adriana.Gabriela5 жыл бұрын
I think that hype comes from the old Nikoj vs. Canon
@frankyvee15 жыл бұрын
Color science thing is way overblown by Canon users. Thank you for shining some light on this subject.
@michaelbell754 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting that the Sony skin tones and colors were absolute garbage before their current 3rd gen cameras. Go shoot with an a7 or a7ii and behold the awful skin tones and colors. Unless you like your models to look like they have jaundice
@AlphaCentauri244 жыл бұрын
And still Canon & even Panasonic colors look much better than Sony's. I personally was aghast how dismal Sony looked when the 3 were cut in a sequence.
@frankyvee14 жыл бұрын
@Izabalphoto That sounds like some serious concrete scientific evidence. Thanks for sharing your findings.
@joealfanophotography95685 жыл бұрын
So glad you made this video. There are those that go on and on about “color science” when it’s really more about “editing science”. Thanks for pointing that out. Even when importing Sony RAW files into LR you can make a custom import preset to make them look exactly like Canon files. I shot Canon for several years and to be honest I like Sony color a bit more.
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Even easier if you really like what Canon looks like you can just change the Sony tint in the camera :D I personally like what sony raws look like, so I just leave them as is!
@esppics215 жыл бұрын
My Sony files always have a greenish tint compared to my Canon files. Opposite to your results. But a very easy fix like you stated.
@dennishumbla54314 жыл бұрын
I get that to, green tint on my Sony A7ii
@MelvinDlaCruz5 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody do a video explain this. Any camera have wrong or right color is just preference. Thank you so much for doing this ❤️ video. I was almost to the point to do this video myself because I'm so tired of people talking about this.
@antarasarkar105 жыл бұрын
you are about to hit 500K. just waiting for it girl ❤️ more power to you.. you are so geniune and hardworking.. love your work.. and yes you are looking so pretty as well .. XOXO
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@dandonovan15 жыл бұрын
Just so everyone is clear on this, color straight out of the camera when shooting still photos is more important if you are just shooting JPG files. When shooting raw, you fine-tune the color with the raw convertor. Speaking of that, I shoot Sony and use Capture One for my raw processing. The Capture One people have worked extensively with Sony to get great processing results.
@Seitenwerk5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more than just a different color tone you can easily fix. Shooting Portraits side by side often reveals unwanted color tones especially in dark areas like shadows on the skin. Sony tends to produce green tones and others on the skin. You may not see it without comparing it to a canon image, but if you do the differences are often pretty obvious. The problem is you can’t just fix those afterwards without heavily manual work on each area. Something no one usually wants to do
@jaychoi40545 жыл бұрын
SONY defects in color science are from mixed lighting conditions, especially at night or in the studio. It's a pain in the neck to correct them all.
@mariuszbiegaj23915 жыл бұрын
Hi please correct me if I'm wrong. You are not really comparing colors of Canon vs Sony but rather Adobe's interpretation of those RAW images. In LR you can assign color profiles of Sony or Canon to the RAW files to simulate the real brands colors or maybe even better you should compare jpges out of two brands or use native Sony and Canon RAW converters to really compare the colors. Other than that nice video that shows that with any camera we can achieve same results.
@highstyleproductions51125 жыл бұрын
JPEG would be the real comparison
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have the raw + jpg sooc, which look the same as the images I included in this video. I also made sure to look at them both on a bunch of different programs so that any software or profiles don't ruin the integrity of my personal observations!
@wanneske19695 жыл бұрын
Color tones are affected by the lens not the sensor. I find canon lenses have warmer (more orange) tones than for instance sigma lenses on the same canon camera
@Adasinh5 жыл бұрын
I think exactly the same, the real difference is the lens
@garthzutautas1255 жыл бұрын
I adapted all my Canon glass to my Sony and the colors were way different. The colors on A7ii are way different than my A7iii with all the same glass as well so I would say this theory is a bust.
@trogdor5 жыл бұрын
@@garthzutautas125 sensors and processors have been updated with every generation of Sony cameras (mainly because they were pretty terrible to start). It's a mix of all the parts of the camera that get you a RAW file to start with. Some are better than others and everyone has their preference.
@garthzutautas90635 жыл бұрын
stephen heraldo Okay cool I’m just letting original poster know that colours come from the sensor and not the lenses. The lenses can have a slight affect on colour but the colour science is related to the electronics and it the glass.
@trogdor5 жыл бұрын
@@garthzutautas9063 I think mean to reply to the original poster as well. I think we're all in agreement that it's all parts of the camera/lenses that affect color, and each manufacturer has their preferred color formulas, just like back in the film days.
@gandharivamshi75293 жыл бұрын
Which camera your using now for this video... Video clarity was awesome and you looking amazing... 💜
@yelonhesli5 жыл бұрын
very good, I really enjoyed the comparison and how you explain the differences in the details. congratulations!
@windriver4565 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Can you do this with someone with dark or brown skin? That's where I feel Sony has trouble. Even shooting in raw and trying to post-process, I can never get it to look natural or as pleasing as Canon. Would love to switch to Sony otherwise. Sony has been amazing with their releases.
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Yes for sure! I can do this video again in the future when I have some more comparisons to share :)
@mikeybr53.185 жыл бұрын
GREAT PHOTOS JULIA I THINK I PREFER THE SONY CAMERA LOOKS SO DEATAILED REALLY COOL
@smalltalk.productions99773 жыл бұрын
still relevant, at least to me! thanks for the effort and the sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. i hope you and dan stay well. thumbs up.
@jonhermannsson92315 жыл бұрын
your cat so cute - do not most pros shoot raw mostly - so there is always post work - yes I feel my a7 3 is always a bit cooler - but as I mod in post I does not bother me - Canon is sometimes to warm - but yes your comments are spot on -
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't bother me either since I always do post work on my photos anyway, just wanted to answer some questions I noticed a lot of people having! Some people think that Sony sooc makes it harder to edit in post, but there's really such a minimal difference that you can change in the camera anyway so i wanted to show that :)
@marcusraschke21655 жыл бұрын
You have to compare with the same optics. Glasses also have a color rendering.
@RoadRallyLife4 жыл бұрын
This is odd, I use both cameras as well and my findings are the opposite- canon had more pink tint whereas the Sony is greener. The main issue is the luminance in combination with color of skin tones, the Sony looks more "plasticky", digital. I prefer the 5D MKIV color science.
@pitchhansen2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure the monitor is calibrated. Maybe both of you will have different colors compared to others.
@gfxmaniac9 ай бұрын
Sony cameras, buy two of A7S3s and tint will be different.
@brettnfk5 жыл бұрын
The other thing people have to consider is that their photos will be viewed on so many different devices with varying display types, so being too nit-picky about the colours seems a bit pointless when the goal is to share the photo via social media. So just get it looking how you want it to without spending half of your day making micro adjustments, get it uploaded, then start working on something new!
@erikksmith5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you for running these tests!
@simonc47645 жыл бұрын
When you get skin tone that are pink or red it sometimes means the sensor is letting in IR contamination. Its worth checking your blacks to see if one is more black or brown than the other to confirm if it really is IR contamination at play? In your test my prefernce is Canon image straight out of the camera.
@BunarathFoTo5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I love your video so much because you make me easy to find the right camera for me...
@Larchitcte5 жыл бұрын
Hey julia cool video,your audio is always on point,which audio set up do you use?!
@frankc.98535 жыл бұрын
I loved the little Lightroom tip for the skin tone! I am a new A7iii user, hope to see more on location videos from you with the A7iii.
@AllieOnPointe Жыл бұрын
I love this! Because I use a canon R6 (and 5div as backup) right now but id love to get the A7c as my backup for the autofocus but also because it would be a nice travel camera. I was worried about consistent editing but this made me feel so much better!
@iscoguy5 жыл бұрын
Fun comparison. I think both had pros and cons. I shoot Canon and am very happy with it. I will say I think the thought of a universal "Canon color" is a bit off. I have noticed a bit of a difference in color between my Canon bodies. For example, the 5DIII was a bit warmer and had seemed to accentuate red tones. The 5DIV I have found favors blue/greens as you observe in your video. I enjoyed both, and found the 5DIV colors are typically better for skin tones, especially when using a flash.
@lenal98655 жыл бұрын
I really like your content. I just about to start to photograph and you're channel is a great help to learn a lot of new stuff
@eggs-benny2 жыл бұрын
Great video content, thanks for making these!
@ddesai10805 жыл бұрын
Sony certainty not bad..but you see true difference when you shoot difficult skin tones like south Asian people like India...
@kentaaruga47655 жыл бұрын
Yoh should watch Sean Tucker's video on this. Its very interesting
@ddesai10805 жыл бұрын
@@kentaaruga4765 I am already a subscriber of his channel and already watched his video on similar topic. It is difficult to prove difference of Canon color science..many people claims that they can match colors in post processing..not entirely false...It is as difficult as proving Nikon or Sony users that there always be green tint in shadow area and yellow in skin tones. I think you should stay with whatever you like Sony, Nikon, Canon...Fuji...whatever it may be...
@JustinHeckman5 жыл бұрын
First want to say love your videos! Great information! but don't hate me because Im going nitpick a little and curious on your thoughts : ) The second example used different shutter-speeds and like the 1st one, the 3rd comparison is allowing more light to hit the models face with the hair pulled back on the Sony image. Seems like the Sony a7 iii had more light in the three images than the canon. Could that be causing some of the minor differences being seen?
@Fr3dr1k5 жыл бұрын
At identical setting the Sony is still a little brighter, I had a 5DIII and an A7III
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Since I have the rest of the photos to look at as well, I picked photos to show the overall colour cast I could see in the rest of the photos shot in the same location. So while the lighting might be a little bit different I made sure to pick photos that I could see the same colour cast in throughout regardless of the lighting. So for example in the 3rd example, I had some photos where her hair was out of her face like the Sony shot (it was out of focus so I didn't include it) but it had the same colour cast as the one shown in the video with her hair causing more of a shadow. Hope that makes sense!
@akanbilincoln38915 жыл бұрын
Sony wins hands down. The Sony dro is very fantastic.
@jheelan5 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you're shooting in JPEG
@akanbilincoln38915 жыл бұрын
@@jheelan I shoot raw always, even in Jpeng Sony is fantastic.
@ПітерАндрійХенфілдКолісник5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Kyiv Ukraine. I am a Sony shooter. I always shoot a colour checker for the first shots of each group to be sure of exact colour match between cameras/lenses and to get the correct white balance. I not saying you should but this is what I do and it takes no time at all. You can balance the colours between camera brands using this.
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
I mentioned this briefly in the video that you can change the white balance/tint in the camera so you don't have to do it in post :)
@sydneycranford34195 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see this. So helpful! I love how organized your videos are, by the way.
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sydneycranford34195 жыл бұрын
@@juliatrotti You're so welcome!
@MegaRay685 жыл бұрын
Hmm, that's is the secret sauce that Canon has. All of us are trying to get this in the post, but why? There still seems to be a reason we all don't know why do we have to try a look at Canon colors. I am a Nikon shooter and have a Canon picture profile in my camera. It's just easy to get around the post to try and get this science if you have the Canon picture profile. It's only us photographers know this not the clients. But why do we still crave for it? Is still my question.
@Photomeike5 жыл бұрын
Not all of us.. Just you and I guess your friends. I shoot Nikon and love the look I get from it and have no need to make my Nikons look like the Canon. Or else I would just buy a Canon..
@abhikaulavkar5 жыл бұрын
I like Sony’s colour straight out of camera bcoz it looks more natural & True Tone & white looks white specially image shown in harsh sun light her tees white stripes are looks perfectly white & black stripes looks perfectly black. Thanks for comparison it’s so guided video.👍🏻🙏🏻
@Irastrong5 жыл бұрын
What are the benefits of using two different brands of cameras at a shoot? As opposed to just using two Canons or two Sony’s with different lenses?
@hautehussey4 жыл бұрын
Must be a lot of Sony shooters here in the comments. It should be clear just from these examples that they aren’t the same and that a simple white balance tweak/tint isn’t enough. Look at the saturation and tonality differences in the skin tone transitions. It’s not as bad as the older Sonys, or the Panasonics, but it’s still visible.
@jocelynr65323 жыл бұрын
This makes me feel so much better about my purchase. Thank you!
@reykfoto5 жыл бұрын
Julia, please make a video on these two cameras to see how they perform, features, pros and cons of both. Thx
@simeonkolev12315 жыл бұрын
Quick tip :) you can create custom camera profiles with X-rite Color Passport and than the colors science will match perfectly between the Canon and Sony. You have to use one and the same lens and the same light source (I use a flash). Second thing - lenses can produce different colors and the difference in WB can be due to the different lenses. PS you should try the A7rII or rIII ;) it is so much better for shooting in good light. Not because the pixel count but because of the colors. There are more colors :). I think that you will like it, I almost never use all of the 42m pixels but I really like the colors that I get out of it. And the option for a heavy crop is awesome sometimes.
@kamotionmarketing5 жыл бұрын
Your comment about the lenses is spot on. Different brands especially....
@jessicadervin51594 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video showing your settings inside the camera? Do you just do AWB or Kelvin? I am having such a hard time liking the Sony photos
@alexgraylopez5 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of your work and love your videos Julia. Having both an A7RIII and a 5D Mark IV (Thanksgiving special impulse buy got me), I hear it all the time about the skin tones. I don't think anyone could have explained it better than with this video. Great job, loved it!
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@jonathanvu53704 жыл бұрын
At 6:19 what adjustment would you recommend to change the white balance of sony's camera system to best look like canon's SOOC?
@seanimal35 жыл бұрын
I think it's cool that you're willing to show people how to color match the two. New subscriber
@raulpetru4 жыл бұрын
What should I choose to start my photography business? Canon 6D mark II or Sony a7 II (for potraits and small events)
@jigneshchavda10085 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Amazing video Julia Trotti..
@johnforrestal5 жыл бұрын
1) The comparison of the girl against the wall - cameras were at different shutter speeds. Camera sensors will react differently to color sensitivity at different levels of exposure. Under/overexposing, technically, will cause a camera to represent color slightly different. One camera was at 1/480 of a second, the other was at 1/320. Hard to make a color comparison if your settings aren't the same across the board. 2) The photo before that - even though you said they look the same, they didn't. The left was clearly bluish. What was the white balance setting for any of these photos? Manually set or automatic? 3) What would have better displayed accurate skintone representation across cameras would have been a look at histograms and vectorscopes and using power windows/masks to isolate skin on their face.
@Anna-gv7vo Жыл бұрын
Hello Julia, thank you for your great vídeos! Sorry, this vídeo has 4 years, but do you remember by any chance how you use WB on your a7iii? AWB, AWB with any particular modification, WB profiles like Daylight, shadow, etc.?? I have had my camera for a year and I hate the skin tones every time and makes me so sad and it is so much work to fix it or many times make even worse... Could you help me please if you remember? Thank you so much!
@milanjani Жыл бұрын
Julia this is so imp info. I never liked sony colors. By this, can sony really achieve canon colors?
@craigcarlson40225 жыл бұрын
Julia, Have you used any Canon-to-Sony lens adapters like the Sigma MC or Metabones? I shoot with an old Canon 6D, would like to upgrade to a newer mirrorless. I have a number of Canon L lenses i really like. I've bought the Canon EOS R but found its user interface so....weird and un-direct, i returned it. The Sony A7iii looks appealing. I'm attracted to its reported great dynamic range (for landscapes), and eye focus. Second, any tips you can share for how you got comfortable with their menu system?...I've heard it can be very confusing. Thanks much, Craig
@msmphoto5535 жыл бұрын
Julia, thank you so much for the amazing content. Please forgive me if I missed this in the video, but what lens did you have on the Sony for this comparison?
@devilmaycry3835 жыл бұрын
Great comparison I prefer the look of the Sony pictures. 👍 It's sad that I had to sell my A7iii will be getting the A9 hopefully soon.
@theactivespirit5 жыл бұрын
would’ve loved to see a comparison on a range of skin tones
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to make another video or even a blog post sharing some more comparisons when I have them :)
@carloforniacation4 жыл бұрын
Really nice comparison (it's hard to find these on youtube), thanks a lot, really sums up the whole thing between those two brands. At the end, the differences are slightly and easily adjustable in post, so thanks a lot for that!
@juliatrotti4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@zleepyjan5 жыл бұрын
Cool! A great review on Skin tones using two different cameras :)
@piyushkashyap23223 жыл бұрын
m a Canon user and I feel that canon slightly underexposes each photo because of some calibration of its light meter or so. But I don't mind the greener tint (i got to know after seeing in this video side by side with sony). The pinkish tint of sony looks good but it will definitely be limited to just portraits since the CANON looks more true to life & that is what u need when shooting RAWs✌️
@akhyarrayhka40485 жыл бұрын
i dont know why, but when comparing a9 vs eos RP, although a9 is way more better in overall details, with same setting Canon RP looks better. to fix Canon set the WB to Amber and Magenta a bit.
@gladstoneh91705 жыл бұрын
In the night without a flash, Sony tends to have a yellow tint by using auto WB. How is your experience?
@chuligraphy69435 жыл бұрын
You are the best Julia! 🔝🔝♥️
@AndreyKrepkih5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Also try to take portrait shots with warm incandescent lamps on the street and indoors on both cameras, then you will understand that SONY RAW cannot be processed ((. Skinton turns out to be strange. While Canon gets the colors right in one click.
@dennishumbla54314 жыл бұрын
Yes I get lots of green/jellow skintones
@markharris57715 жыл бұрын
My Canon EOS 5 (A2/A2e) has the best skin tone...or is that cheating? This is incredibly subjective, just as film is. However, if I was a portrait/fashion/wedding photographer I would have moved over to Sony by now. Thank you, a great video as always.
@danpodbierezki5 жыл бұрын
Haha, not cheating at all! My favourite film stock is AGFA 200 which you'll rarely ever hear anyone say that. It ain't the sharpest or accurate with colours but the way it renders greens in landscape/travel shots and purples during sunsets is simply a look I love. It's why our personal family and travel albums are all filled with photos shot on agfa. Still always shot on a 35mm focal length, we can't shake that one no matter the camera. 😄
@markharris57715 жыл бұрын
Dan Podbierezki I used to like the Fuji Pro 160ns, it had a strong pink/magenta tint, a pure portrait film but I loved it for 120 landscapes. Alas it’s been withdrawn, but considering Acros is coming back ns might make a return. AGFA 200 is the backbone of many a family album, it was wonderfully of the time. I’m convinced that when I remember the 70s and 80s my brain shot the memories with AGFA.
@kaimultivideo49563 жыл бұрын
I like how you call photos “frertters”. You’re lovely.
@MrGmoex5 жыл бұрын
You said daylight time you prefer to use canon, night time you will use sony for better low light performance and AF assist. Does that mean Canon give better shooting experience in term of usage?
@ezrakoper5 жыл бұрын
I think you totally miss the point. BTW I shoot in the past with Canon. Later with olympus and now with Sony.. 1. The changes in RAW are meaningless and profiles usually do nothing to raw. Only JPG. Many people shoot in JPG and there the color science of every brand makes a big difference. Many people just want to click and get a JPG. Your test should be with jpg with default changes instead. 2. For myself and other I asked on line I have a big problem with sony white balance when using FLASH as the main source of light (not just fill flash). The camera tend to produce in RAW and JPG very strange colors usually shifted dramatically towords the orange. I try some setup in the camera to prefer white as I was recommended to do but with no real success. The white balance in sony A7III is so bad that usually I play manually with the white balance in the sceen I plan to shot and adjust it to stay there as long I am using FLASH. I don't remember ever having such issues with the Olympus or Canon. This is the part where I hate my sony A7III not to mention the missing fully articulating LCD. However for portrait shot with the eye focus it is ggggrrrreeeeaaattttt!!!!!!!!!
@malenky40575 жыл бұрын
The intersection of people shooting only jpeg and people who are fussy about skin tones is surely incredibly small.
@joealfanophotography95685 жыл бұрын
Malenky I’m not sure about that. I think a lot more people are shooting JPEG then you think. I run a photo group on Meetup and you would be shocked at how many people don’t even have RAW converter software of any type. Not everyone is looking for pro results but they do want nice skin tones. With that in mind what comes directly out of the camera is important to those people.
@Seitenwerk5 жыл бұрын
Joe Alfano Photography i think many are actually shooting JPEG. I myself also tend to shoot 90% jpeg except for special shooting of one time moments, just to be save. But even then I never needed the RAW files. I try to get my shots right in the first place and usually never need to make so many corrections to it that a RAW file would be needed. In the end I often feel like I am wasting disk space. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely know of the benefits of RAW. But it’s just that all the time i used it (mostly shooting in Jpeg + RAW pairs) i was absolutely satisfied with the jpeg. Last time I was even pretty surprised how much information was left in the jpeg when I tried to bring back detail from highlights. There are occasions where I would still always use Raw, like landscape photography. But for most other things, after years of shooting in Raw, I started to omit that and use Jpeg most of the time
@joealfanophotography95685 жыл бұрын
Alexander Winkler I agree. When digital cameras first came out RAW was more important. The processors in these first cameras were basic compared to today’s standards. You would get much better results processing the images off camera with software. With the advances in camera processors and their ability to produce outstanding JPEGs the need to use RAW converters has lessened dramatically. Sure RAW still has advantages but for most end use JPEGs are just fine.
@christophermesser59165 жыл бұрын
Do you use AWB or Kelvin for Sony? I've dialed in some magenta to my Sony because the GM lenses tint the images slightly green IMO.
@dennishumbla54314 жыл бұрын
I have also notices green skintones In shadows on my A7ii. Does that setting you dialed in help?
@christophermesser59164 жыл бұрын
@@dennishumbla5431 i think so, i've decreased it to .25
@luciano.armani3 жыл бұрын
is it just me or do the highlights roll of a bit smoother on the canon?
@almatrzabayev5 жыл бұрын
It's sooo useful! Thank you so much!
@andakara275 жыл бұрын
Nice videos as always! But have you calibrated your monitor ? If you havent you might have to reupload this video so you can make better judgement for this sony vs canon color.
@BobLorrimer5 жыл бұрын
Well - it is interesting.....I guess the answer to the never ending conundrum lies in this: if you are rushing out of the house which camera would you be inclined to pick up?
@SweetSourTravel5 жыл бұрын
Nice match to match
@scothu Жыл бұрын
Adobe color vs camera neutral or faithful will produce different colors/contrast in lightroom tho
@photogenic20105 жыл бұрын
Good review here, thanks for that: I tried several cameras, and perceptions do change with time: Canon used to look the most impressive (contrast and warmth), then came Sony but like you I had to fix Sony colour every-time in post. Fuji looked sharp for portraits (thanks to it's lenses) but always came out cool (bluish?). Then I tried Panasonic (Gh4 and 5) and that was a surprise. Lumix colour was closest to the traditional Canon straight out of camera, Also, Pana's smaller body and lens size invites creativity and you get very good results with even the cheapest lenses (revolution) . e.g 15, 20mm for general, 42.5 and 75 mm primes are magic for portraits . . With Pana I had to to white balance every time if I my models moved too far from my starting angle to maintain that good look (which is what I do anyway with my pro video work). . Right now Sony is appealing for it's magical AF, but sensor sharpness is being challenged by the Newer Pana FF. (I haven't tried it yet). . . I am sticking with Sony for stills, and Panasonic M43 for Video ( don't let the M43 smaller sensor deceive). One Camera is never enough :-)
@MarkLargo5 жыл бұрын
Hi Julia! after adjusting the white balance, wouldn't applying a preset negate that change to the white balance? love your vid!
@juliatrotti5 жыл бұрын
Yes! That's why when I pasted the preset I unticked white balance and tint, so it wouldn't affect what we just adjusted :) And thank you!
@MarkLargo5 жыл бұрын
@@juliatrotti I am in love with my a7iii all over again because of this video. Thank you! Cheers!!
@donnlowel23873 жыл бұрын
I like dslr’s picture profile... there’s like substance, character into the photos. Sony is more into modern digital photos, and Dslr’s are more into film like look.
@davel.47955 жыл бұрын
The 2nd generation of Sony E mount cameras had more a greenish look in their pictures. Lots of people told me Canon is more pinkish/red. Seems like it's the other way around now...
@rolandrickphotography4 жыл бұрын
Yes they are. And it’s depending on what you’re doing. HELP needed: I make currently a smooth transition from DSLR to ML and since the a9II and a7R4 is available with enhanced weather sealing, I decided due to the awesome AF to switch from Nikon DSLR to Sony. I do a lot of photojournalism and I am used to get superb jpg image quality spot on of the Nikons utilising on camera flash. Of course I shoot also raw, in case of having (very seldom on Nikon) a bad JPG. Mostly in buildings having no daylight, you shoot normally ISO800 or ISO1600 at 1/160 and f/5.6 to f/8. This is typical for jobs like this, you must deliver quick and without doing a lot of editing in Lr, most convenient is jpgs sooc, wireless transferred to editors. I am doing this since ever, am no newbie and know exactly what I am doing using on camera flash at all thinkable light environment and how to get the best out of it. 🙈😱😱🙈 WHAT A SHOCK, when I saw the first time that image results of the Sonys (a9II and a7R4 equally bad) shot at described conditions. Unusable. A catastrophe. Shadows, specially eye brows, wrinkles have a super ugly orange/reddish tint and skin marks and stains are emphasised to the worst. It makes the people looking ugly and 20 years older. Any hints how to get rid of this? - Shooting wildlife, sports and action at daylight or floodlight no issues. Then it is joy to shoot the Sony system and it’s amazing AF. - Really appreciate any reply and help!
@m0nztam0nk Жыл бұрын
As a fellow Sony shooter i can attest, that this is true. And even worse, it also affects the raws. Sony CAN produce good Skintones in very (!) good Light (All of her examples!). BUT: Ive been shooting with an X-T5 privately and been comparing it against the a7mk4 (With G-Master Primes 35mm & 135mm, the best of the very best mind you!) and the Fuji with its third party viltrox 27mm 1.2 and 75mm 1.2 is absolutely DESTROYING SONY. Theres 1 out of 10 examples where i prefer the Sony Image. Fuji simply WIPES the floor with colours in Raw. The way the files respond i can easily get moody, absolutely GORGEOUS Portraits out of these Cameras for a THIRD of the money (oh and i have over 4 Years pro shooting exp. with Sony and none with Fuji just to add that)... and im ONLY talking Raw files, in JPEG its even worse!!! Ive tried everything, nothing brings Sony skintones to Fujis level... Canon idk
@happybear54155 жыл бұрын
I really love skin tone of my daughter that I have gotten from Sony A7III with 24mm GM and 85 mm f1.8. It made me never thought to get back to Canon.
@Libinkttm4 жыл бұрын
you will definitely , someday you wish to go back to Canon after the release of Canon R5 ,that will break Sony .. RF Series already has the best line up of lenses by far ..
@Azeemmerchant5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!.. U totally busted the "Canon colors are better" myth. I really like Sony sharpness, color depth, dynamic range over Canon.. Lots of love 🙏🏼 🇮🇳
@viktorpaulsen627 Жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting to compare after setting custom white balance on both cameras using a WB card (e.g., whibal)
@charlien41535 жыл бұрын
Nice, someone who understands color
@vaskoobscura_5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you so much for taking the time to make the video.
@antant065 жыл бұрын
did you do something with your studio sound setup? It sounds warmer and richer.
@kirk08314 жыл бұрын
I am just curious about what camera you use to shoot this video? I like the color of the video more than the photos straight out from both SONY and Canon cameras.
@juliatrotti4 жыл бұрын
Video was filmed on Sony A7sii 😄
@angelajones47103 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of your settings? Im getting a green tint with my sony.
@brianeibisch60255 жыл бұрын
I think the Sony is better in all cases out of the camera. But the most beautiful is Julia herself and she has the most beautiful smile on the internet and a lovely voice to listen to.
@patatipatata9726 Жыл бұрын
nice review. what about a new video Sony a7iv vs Canon r6?