No girl... John Smith is a RED FLAG!!!! **Pocahontas** movie commentary/sing-a-long(ish??)

Do you think Disney would be foolish enough to make a live-action remake??
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[@videohistory722]

Here's something else you can be impressed by: The voice actress for Pocahontas wasn't just her voice actress. She also served as the model!

[@Erin-zb9yj]

Well, ONE of the models at least! Apparently they wanted Pocahontas to embody the 90's supermodel type of look, so they kinda did a mashup of a few of the top supermodels of that time, but it's absolutely true that they included Irene Bedard in the mix. She's so beautiful 😍

[@reikun86]

Glen Keane said that he based Pocahontas' figure on Demi Moore's body. I'm not sure if that before or after the work she got/put into Striptease.

[@cxcflower4727]

I love Irene she also is in one of my favorite movies smoke signals

[@xeecstasy3183]

@@Erin-zb9yj Honestly they should’ve made what she looked like irl she looked pretty like that. Honestly makes me question why they didn’t make her look like herself.

[@Erin-zb9yj]

@@xeecstasy3183 I agree. They wanted to make Pocahontas an amalgamation of multiple women that were considered to be the "most beautiful" at the time, regardless of race, which is weird to me. They really should have at least just gone fully with Irene as the model. Or yeah, a rendition of the actual woman in history instead of a fake model. But they try to "pretty things up" as much as possible for Disney ofc

[@alexlazzerly3677]

The movie overall is just okay but it has literally one of the greatest endings in all of Disney. Alan Menken’s music elevates it so much.

[@evabailey5668]

Alan Menken is a god and I am proud to say that

[@Lill2895]

@@evabailey5668 you are not wrong lol

[@Lill2895]

YES it's literally giving "I choose ME" and that's what I loved most about the end because Pocahontas is staying for herself and her people. It's where she wants and needs to be.

[@blankspace5185]

@@Lill2895 I wouldn’t say the ending was necessarily I choose me more so I choose to stay with my family and my people she wasn’t necessarily making it a selfish decision more so thinking as a leader or the leaders daughter. At least that’s the take I got from that

[@enriquev1271]

The Pocahontas songs are some of disneys best works of art.

[@kiararobins5836]

Pocahontas was the first female of color I saw in a lead Disney movie I loved her as a kid I didn’t understand the history until I got older and saw how problematic it is but the animation and music is top tier Disney

[@carktheshark]

Yeah, as a young black girl I definitely adored her. Even today, the music is still top tier

[@BratzRockAngels]

@@carktheshark As a young black girl, I adored her and the movie and music too.

[@Lill2895]

I wanted my hair to be hers so baaddd 😭💁🏾‍♀️ It stayed billowing in the breeze.

[@oni6903]

Jasmine from Aladdin?

[@jankoleon3785]

I mean, first of all. You could like her for her character and personality rather then her skin color. Second of all, it's a Disney movie. It's not meant that be historically accurate

[@amandarlrd]

the soundtrack is one of the best Disney ever made, it's a shame to be in a movie so historically wrong and disrespectful 😩

[@AliciaNyblade]

Right? There are a lot of things to criticize about this film, but the music isn't one of them. Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz are each geniuses on their own, and as a songwriting team, they're absolutely phenomenal. A shame indeed their talents were used on this movie.

[@eddie-roo]

It's a shame colors in the wind and just around the river bend were wasted in this movie

[@danielfeliperodriguez4921]

Why everything has to be so politically correct for your imperialist mindset, karen?

[@nathantower5565]

You can't really blame the movie since more and more people nowadays can't fathom that people lived by different morals standards in the past. The same people who complain that the movie isn't historically accurate are the same people who would bitch and cancel it if it was. It's amazing that people think fighting over resources and land is evil even though literally everyone does it including in this film.

[@eddie-roo]

@@nathantower5565 we would cancel if it glorified the atrocities of the real story. This is an awfully sanitized version of an incredibly dark historical event that shouldn't be accepted. The tragic story of Pocahontas should have stayed in documentaries.

[@samthelion3925]

As a Native American, I found it freaking powerful as a young child to see someone on the screen who looked like me. Even if I'm mixed with white. But it was for sure amazing. But unfortunately, this movie really made my life hell. Since diversity wasn't a popular thing in Disney movies, people found it more likely to look at Native People in the present like they are legit fairy elves than actual living people because of the way it was depicted. I am not even kidding, because of the way the story of our people is told, not only in Disney but even in history classes to this day, we are treated like we just do not exist.

[@christopherb501]

"people found it more likely to look at Native People in the present like they are legit fairy elves than actual living people because of the way it was depicted" Thanks for adding to that, Stephen King!

[@J3rr3LL]

Well Disney wasn't racially diverse then but they were diverse regionally.

[@samthelion3925]

@@J3rr3LL I don't totally blame Disney for not being too diverse. It was just the times, even in the early 2000's. Even like blatantly racist parts in animated or just regular movies is genuinely messed up but again, time period has a big factor to that. But I think its important we do what we can as people to acknowledge how f*cked up a movie could be and the real life impact it could have on people, ya know?? Thanks for listening. ^_^

[@samthelion3925]

@@J3rr3LL Also sorry, its 5am and I suffer from insomnia so I'm sorry if I didn't read that correctly and responded in a weird way.

[@samthelion3925]

@@christopherb501 I'm really sorry but I don't think I'm too familiar with the misconceptions Stephen King has written about Native people. I only read one of his books and it was forever ago and the only movies I've seen was It, The Shining and Doctor Sleep. I think I heard Pet Cemetary was pretty questionable but I'm not sure if that's what you mean. If you could enlighten me with the info I'd really appreciate it. After long enough dealing with movies who perpetuate the stereotypes of my entire culture and people, I have a good mix of anger whilst also being pretty amused by it (in a "Wow, they got that info so wrong" kind of way.)

[@swan4113]

can we just appreciate sophia’s singing because oh my god

[@Ayra_Nayeem]

Litterely, she's amazing

[@nijasimone9350]

Sooo good

[@cleoaunjoli210]

IM WAS SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

[@thirtyonepigeons9539]

🙌👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@bananapy7278]

Her voice is so gorgeous, very Broadway material

[@dumbbih4241]

It just dawned on me while watching this that Disney took the real story of Pocahontas and turned it into a Romeo & Juliet plot.

[@carleryk]

I freaking hate colonialism and the fact that it still goes on, sometimes in hidden forms even today. Also just a kind reminder that a lot of European nations were under colonization of other European countries and because of that can relate to Native Americans, African nations etc, so much! What I'm trying to say is that it is not a white vs colored issue, but rather colonist vs native issue.

[@MyViolador]

*cough* china literally taking over parts in africa and making concentration camps *cough* but nobody has the balls to say something about it because its china and they are not white people thus is not racist or evil *cough*

[@reikun86]

@@MyViolador Thank you for mentioning it. It doesn't get said enough.

[@diannaa.62]

I don’t think the white people from other colonized countries were as brutalized as the natives 🙄

[@Lill2895]

@@diannaa.62 exactly, it hasn't been comparable since before medieval times lol Also, White people can usually just lie and blend in when it comes to lineage and race. POC can't. It's impossible to hide being African, Asian, or Native in a crowd of White people. In the last several hundred years, it's pretty much been European countries enforcing manifest destiny, Imperialism, and colonization plus mass genocide.

[@JonahNelson7]

@@diannaa.62 There are many examples of similarly violent takeovers. For example, Scandinavian people in England were literally wiped out by the English because they feared being taken over due to them being Viking descendants. Also the Norman conquest of England, and even the Germans rolling through France in World War 2, where many atrocities occurred. All white people involved, just as brutal. The issue with colonialism becoming brutal isn't racism per se, it's tribalism, and we can divide ourselves into tribes in many ways. Race is often an identifier just because it's obvious, but there have been many identifiers of tribe that lead to brutality

[@winry2357]

If it makes you feel better, the relationship between the 12 year old Pocahontas and the 40 year old John Smith was more like that of an uncle/niece relationship or a father/daughter. They spent a lot of time together, learning each other’s languages and she taught him and his men about the crops that thrives in the area. She also was helping them keep peace between her tribe and his group of explorers.

[@proudson3409]

Ok Disney.

[@winry2357]

@@proudson3409 that’s a bit more historical than “Disney” but whatever.

[@IronheartvsMiles]

No its not , he was a pe*o

[@augustinensang3109]

Thanks for reacting to this movie, I get the whole historical inaccuracies but it's Disney and they have a habit of changing stories. They usually do it with fairy tales but Pocahontas was a real person. So this was more historical fiction that depicted English settlers taking over the lands of Native Americans. Plus it was funny that the creators wrote John and Pocahontas to be like Romeo and Juliet despite the massive age gap between the real people who I hope didn't engage in a romantic relationship.

[@antoarzamendia]

Sorry, but I'm pretty sure John 'fell in love' with 14-year-old Pocahontas, kidnapped her and took her to Europe where she got married with another english man

[@augustinensang3109]

@@antoarzamendia Yikes

[@salamanderoffire7770]

@@antoarzamendia no, John Smith stayed only for a few months there, and though there might have been something between them, there was no evidence. She met her husband, John Rolfe (a tobacco farmer), at her land, they were married there when she was 18 and two years later, she traveled with him to England, where she died a year later

[@the-ma-an]

There is also the possibility that the two have never even met in real life, as there are theories that John Smith made up parts of his journals

[@girlie_ch33se20]

I’m pretty sure they did meet but had more of a daughter/father relationship than a romantic one The part about her saving him from execution was true though from what I know

[@cgdavidson]

My big brother passed away when we were really young. "Colors of the Wind" was played at his funeral, and will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@samthelion3925]

I'm not Powhatan (Wahunsenaca) so I can't confirm nor deny that the language is correct. I got a feeling they didn't care too much about getting the right tribes language for this movie though so it could even be Cherokee, I have no idea. Im a Mohawk Native with very little teachings into our ancestral language (thanks forced assimilation) But, fun fact, a lot of movies that depict ACTUAL Native Americans in movies usually just tell the actors to "Speak Native" in the script, so they speak sentences with stupid subtitles on the bottom that don't match at all. I forgot the name of the movie but I saw a movie where Native actors were calling the white cast and crew for not even knowing what they were saying. It was amazing.

[@Chemeleon15]

The subtitles labels the language as Algonquin. Normally if it’s jibberish or something not meant to be understood, it’ll say “foreign Language “

[@Lill2895]

I love that for them 🤣 It's the equivalent revenge of a White person getting a tattoo with Chinese or Japanese language characters. They think it says "strong and beautiful" but really it says "dumbass!"

[@becca475]

What was the name of the movie?

[@becca475]

Jajajaja, that's awesome. I'm actually learning indigenous languages in university so I can watch content made by the people without subtitles.

[@ssshark_bait]

I'm actually half Cherokee from my dad's side tho I sadly don't know alot about it

[@storybinder2278]

I think the only historically accurate thing in this film was the fact that the dog was treated so well since Pugs used to be considered royal dogs 😅.

[@SophiaPhannn]

PRETEND THAT THIS WAS UPLOADED IN NOVEMBER LIKE I INTENDED IT TYTY 😘

[@MochiMochNisa]

As you wish ✨💕

[@surreallane9730]

I am not a fan of John Smith, but I can't stop laughing at how into it he was during Colors of the Wind.

[@invadertifxiii]

i mean at least disney had the decency to have her voiced by an actual indigenous woman

[@jesterfairy3845]

I was literally harmonizing with you for Colors of the Wind. That song is one of the saving graces of this movie

[@scarlett5247]

As far as princes go I like

[@kimberlylatrice1981]

Ditto. Couldn't have said this better myself. I don't have a Disney Prince list though; NONE of the Princes were worthy of the Princesses... Well, except maybe Prince Eric from Little Mermaid. But Pocahontas will ALWAYS be my #1 Favorite Disney Princess.

[@BratzRockAngels]

@sewer~rat Why are you being rude?

[@Inoorne]

Pocahontas is always conflicting for me because it’s so aggressively colonial but also the only native rep we have that isn’t…uh, well you’ve seen the scene in Peter Pan I’m sure. I do really appreciate you pointing out the issues because Disney usually gets a pass on this sort of thing, which historically hasn’t been great.

[@kellydepaz525]

What are your thoughts on Terrence Malick’s film The New World?

[@Lill2895]

Peter Pan is a dang cringe fest! As a little Black girl, I always hated it. It's like they were doing their best to offend everyone but White men/boys 🙃 I wanted Tiger Lily to break Peter's neck because he was so disrespectful and the song they sang 🥴 It was the Dumbo Jim Crows all over again for me lol

[@scarletsage6267]

I have to say Disney was really gross with this movie once you see the real Pochahantas and John Smith and here’s one detail: She was a minor and he was an adult and she died from the Disease he brought to her homeland

[@hinasakukimi]

her actual husband was john rolfe but yeah

[@scarletsage6267]

@@hinasakukimi yeah I forgot they changed up the Johns for some reason but yeah it’s still pretty gross how they took a pedophiliac relationship into this

[@hinasakukimi]

@@scarletsage6267 lmao idk why they did that either. to me it's on par with the idea of disney making an anne frank musical, aging her up, then making her fall for a nazi soldier. like........... why do we need that?

[@scarletsage6267]

@@hinasakukimi there was an actual movie of a black girl falling in love with a nazi soldier so they actually made that kinda but without music

[@hinasakukimi]

@@scarletsage6267 i-

[@wisygirlywopitty770]

I think savage and hellfire are the last time disney had actually BALLS to say things. Savage pictures exactly how both nation see each others as unhuman in the same way ( which mean they are actually the same ... simply humans lost in either hatred or greed ). Disney made such a good parallel between them with that song. People are often afraid of what they don't understand or don't know. But when you confront your fear and actually talk with those you used to be defiant about , you discover so much more. Culture. Language. Behavior. It's so nice. These days i really feel like people have forgotten that talk / peace was an option before war and bloodshed.

[@thedappermagician6905]

Look at the majority of the comments here (and sadly even much of what Sophie has to say) and you'll see that you and Disney are completely on the money.

[@martymcflown3707]

Every time the colonists sing in Savages I cringe but whenever the Native Americans are singing I'm just nodding along like "they're right and they should say it."

[@wandanemer2630]

It is true tho!

[@summoner1451]

I laugh at how the colonists were saying really racist shit in that song and then Native Americans come on and start saying really racist shit about white people and then she just agrees with the racist things being said about white people, while looking all disgusted about the racist things being said about Native American. It's just proof that the majority of these really "progressive" people are morons and hypocrites. If you actually think they are right, then you clearly not listening to the song and are just as racist as those colonists were.

[@cc.8805]

@@summoner1451 HUH

[@BratzRockAngels]

I know right.

[@adreak9868]

"Tell me you're stupid without telling me you're stupid"

[@Indominus-xw6rn]

I personally loved watching this movie as a kid, and still do today. I always found the music, animation and voice cast really influential. Yes, I'm aware of the historical inaccuracies and I respect anyone who's not a fan of this film. I loved how Pocahontas was sweet, gentle, but at the same time, stood her ground and manage to convince others otherwise. John Smith is a bit of a block head, but I still liked that he changed his opinion after seeing the bigger picture. Also, I would pick this film over every live action movie. Fun Fact: Russell Means, the man who voiced Pocahontas' father, was very supportive of the movie.

[@tomsgrexit]

I'm Native American, so I always loved this movie growing up (as well as Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron and Brother Bear)! They have major flaws for sure, but I still got to see myself represented and was amazed! I even remember having a huge crush on the Disney John Smith, haha.. I guess I think of it as him learning from Pocahontas, I mean he did become a better person by his time with her, cause he was pretty trash before that! 🤣

[@randyjohnson6390]

OMG! Your singing voice! Thanks for sharing it. The real Pocahontas was either 12 or 13 when the events depicted in the movie took place. Many stories before the Disney movie, positioned this relationship as a romance. It's doubtful that it actually was. Pocahontas was married to John Rolfe when she died in England.

[@tigerwolf2243]

"Wasn't England back than like dreary and gray? There was like sewage everywhere?" - Sophia, 2022

[@uraninezak]

The easiest way to fix this movie is to NOT make it historically accurate. My favorite prince is Eric because he very much let's Ariel wear the pants (see second movie) and I'm game for a supportive husband. Flynn Rider is great, too. John Smith was ruined for me when I learned more about history as well as Mel Gibson as a person. However, you never realize how high Pocahontas's songs get until you get to the end. Girl, I STRUGGLE with Just Around the River Bend.

[@SophiaPhannn]

I STRUGGLED WITH COLORS OF THE WIND LOL. Judy Kuhn's vibrato is insane

[@uraninezak]

@@SophiaPhannn there's a reason Judy got the job after being the demo singer

[@mrstrangeworld5977]

the movie is far from being historically accurate, pocahontas in this is full grown women and so is John Smith, int the original story it was nothing like that.

[@BratzRockAngels]

@@mrstrangeworld5977 I wouldn't say she's a fully grown woman, she's still a teenager, but she's still far older than she was in real life.

[@ivanelugo]

I think the reason why John Smith had to go back to London was because he had gunpowder exploded in his pocket or something.

[@digapygmy70]

I was 5 when this movie came out and even then I was like, "How would she know English?!" I think it was the first movie that made me realize not all movies are great lol

[@littlemayo7136]

I laughed reading this

[@bud389]

"POCAHONTAS WAS 12" - Snow White was 14 and the Little Mermaid was 16. Back in ye olden times, age of consent wasn't really a "thing".

[@-i_own_you_-]

Pocahontas was 19 in this movie

[@Just_Lina__]

I love your movie commentaries! Especially those of nostalgic childhood movies! And your makeup looks amazing, like always *___*

[@Findingpayton]

k but the fact that when I was younger, I had a huge crush on John smith💀 Like, of all the disney princes??

[@surreallane9730]

🥲

[@ellievonlee8777]

YOUR VOICE SOUNDED SO PERFECT FOR THAT SONG TvT

[@aricheec7722]

acknowledging matoaka in the first 40 seconds :) thats how ya do it. i didnt have a lot of native rep growing up so i felt really bittersweet about this movie after learning her story. theres so many good songs

[@sunstone3316]

A movie that I’d LOVE for you to watch is, “Thumbelina” it’s such a fun and entertaining yet bizarre love story and the soundtrack is just MWAH ✨💕

[@smiley_128]

"i like hello better" translation: dont care about ur culture only like u cuz u hot

[@Topic69]

Please explain to me, why is Kocoum a good partner for Pocahontas as opposed to John Smith? John in this movie isn't a good guy but Kocoum also is not. I mean, he just got back from a war against another tribe (where they presumably killed all the men and claimed all the women which was typical in tribal warfare). Is it ok for someone like him to massacre people just because he's the same race as them? Seems stupid to me. Pocahontas' people weren't the Native American people as a whole but those of the Powhatan tribe. Therefore, her tribe killing those of another tribe (presumably over food and resources) is no better than the Englishmen killing the Powhatan people. Aside from the issue of Pocahontas' love interest in the movie, I find it funny that people complain about the historical inaccuracies in this film when it comes to the atrocities committed by the settlers (which were indeed horrific) which attempts to frame them in a more positive light whilst simultaneously not giving a rat's arse about the historical inaccuracies in regards to the natives that also make them look better too. Imagine if Disney showed the way that some native tribes massacred others, killing all their men, raping their women. Imagine if Disney showed the cannibalism that occurred in various tribes. Or how about the way they killed the real Ratcliffe (who wasn't even as evil as he was in the movie). The list goes on and on... In summary, I don't think Disney sugar coated the colonisation of the Americas to pursue some sort of political agenda, I think they simply did it because the real history is too dark and too graphic for a kid's film. End of P.S. The one thing I do think was out of line no matter which way you look at it was Disney taking a paedophilic relationship from the real world and turning it into a heart-felt romance. Taking a child from real world history, aging her up and making her ''sexy'' in order to make their otherwise disgusting relationship palatable for the average viewer. If they wanted to tell a fictional story within a historical setting like this movie is set in, I'd have had no problems with that but using a real story and altering it is inexcusable imo.

[@embrasil]

Yes. People are so hypocrite thinking that is just the "evil white man" here

[@HeatherNickless-vt8zr]

The real John Smith was more of a RED FLAG than the fictional one. And I mean John Smith was almost as big of a danger warning as "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" novel version of the Phoebus character.

[@jasminerasheed9855]

For the longest time, I had a crush on John Smith and when I found out later the voice actor was Mel Gibson I was like 🤮

[@alyssabullock6421]

the fact Disney took the tragic story of a child who got taken from her home and abused over her life until dying at the mere age of 20 and said "Lets romanticize it" is disgusting.

[@nancyomalley6286]

Fun fact: The Virginia guy with the black hair is voiced by the same actor who voiced Fergus in "Brave"-Billy Connelly

[@thepinkelephant2520]

8:29 OMG that is a childhood MEMORY

[@madeleinehallatt3962]

“was is Hercules or Pocahontas that ended the renaissance era?” it was Tarzan

[@laurenheartsreading]

you would be PERFECT to voice and do the singing of a disney princess!!! you sing so beautifully and your voice is so cheerful.

[@Hysteriafish828]

I love your videos and your makeup it gives me cherry blossom vibes Your singing reminds me of Disney Princess it's angelic

[@eggs4073]

not me clapping after every song she sings along to like she was giving me a personal concert lol. You have such a beautiful voice! And I can tell how much you care about these songs when you sing them!

[@NessunDorma2]

When I was 3 I was obssesed with this movie but when I heard about the real story ... :I

[@agoblincandraw]

Subtitles: *[Speaking in Algonquin]* Her: “Is ThIs GiBbErIsH?”

[@cassiopeia2829]

You have an amazing voice in every song on this channel!!:0

[@CC-iq2dg]

This is my least favorite Disney movie and your commentary makes so much funnier. And if you haven’t done it already, can you do the original Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?

[@islaislaisla5]

the singing is immaculate

[@gamerofgamers1417]

Okay, I laughed at the effects used when Pocahontas was looking at the helmet.

[@g0reg0yle37]

Your vibrato is gorgeous as always!! would definitely love to see a lady and the tramp sing along as well (even though it also falls prey to early disney and has racist stuff in it much like pocahontas :,/ )

[@ambarcolmenares6338]

Really?! that's one of my favorite movies, i didn't know it got racism in it

[@nocturnalcove9736]

Maturing is when you realise that historically John Smith was the villain and Ratcliffe was the unfortunate hero.

[@otrupper4869]

Lots of these older movies are enjoyable without constantly telling yourself about the "Bad" history. American Tale, Secrets of NiMH, Prince of Egypt, Grave Of The FireFlies and Rescuers Down Under.

[@wandanemer2630]

To be fair, Grave of the Fireflies was MISERY ALL AROUND! Just *suffering.* But it is a beautiful film tho.

[@juliak4218]

I was today years old when I found out that Christian Bale voiced Thomas in this.

[@alejandrovargas6908]

She said I CAN SING 🎤 YAAAAAS GIRL THOSE VOCALS 😍✨🌟⭐️💫

[@curious_puspin_cat]

I don't know why people complain about the wrong history. When does Disney make an accurate adaptation? They always change the original story like in Mulan. Original fairy tales have heavy themes of blood, gore, r@ pe, suicide, and torture and Disney rewrites it to be suitable for all ages.

[@witherton8340]

But the other Disney movies (like Cinderella and Snow White) are based from fictional stories, with fictional characters. At least Mulan did not based the main character off of a real young native American girl kidnapped and was forced to marry a grown man, and did not try to justify colonialism...

[@noorelmasri9803]

STOPP I LOVE YOUR SINGALONGS TO NO ENDDDD 😭💕

[@jacksonsd6]

the way 3 of my fav reactors just uploaded at the very same moment

[@Indiegirl007]

This movie meant so much to me as a kid. I'm not Native American, but I didn't see any mocha girls with long black hair in Disney movies back in the day. As a 6 year old, I related to her so much. I thought we had so much in common, lol.

[@carktheshark]

Your singing voice is amazing girl!

[@matchamochi781]

The animation of this movie is very beautiful. My professor actually worked on it. I can come to appreciate the hard work that went into the art direction

[@tedwards1025]

Your voice is so good omg and agreed, good animation and songs but it gives me the ick too to know how much they distorted actual people for this

[@josephrowe849]

Ratcliffe: When all of the gold IS MINE!!! Seagulls: Mine? MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!

[@mariakalliokoski2758]

Jamestown was ACTUALLY the first English settlement in North America 😆😅

[@George04957]

If anything this video makes me like the movie more. Like yea its got colonization it but its not telling you thats a good thing. Its messge is that being diffrent isnt a bad thing and learning from each other is the better option then war. And how only through group action can true change happen.

[@MaidOfPasta]

This movie is fine if you’re under 8, and if it wasn’t inspired by Pocahontas, I think it’d be a little less of a disaster. It’s Romeo and Juliet with historical figures, which imo is wildly inappropriate and thematically inaccurate. I feel like a Native American movie about one of their folk tales would have been a better option. The songs are the saving grace, but good music does not a good story make.

[@CheerUp2]

I loved this movie as a kid. i was a dark little child with long dark hair and I had a pocahontas costume that I would wear all the time

[@Barcelona006]

Just for the record, it was Tarzan that ended the Disney Renaissance

[@tamara-roseblackette]

Yes, If I Never Knew You deserved so much better! 😭 The motif for it is throughout the entire movie but they cut it because kids were fidgeting too much during test screenings. I've liked the song since I was a kid as well, it was also on the special features of the dvd version we ended up with. I believe the last version they put out on dvd had the song restored but then they put it out on Blu Ray with it removed again. So close and yet so far 🤏

[@starrsmith3810]

Pocahontas is the one movie I point to as a problematic movie I like. Honestly Smith in this movie fits my type in terms of looks. Him and Thomas were about the only settlers I found interesting honestly. The rest of them had 0 personality really and I DESPISE Ratcliffe

[@m00nsickn3ssx6]

When i was a kid i used to watch the movie just to sing even tho my father didnt want me to LMAO

[@gerardwfreak]

I had the VHS tape growing up and they cut out the 'If I Never Knew You'; I didn't know about it until I think when they aired the film on ABC I wanna say, and they showed it as a behind the scenes thing :o Oh, I also had to look this up, but apparently Tarzan is seen as the end of the Disney Renaissance (one of the reasons I think being because it was so expensive to make and by that point there was that movement towards using computers for background and the like).. though, I just find it interesting that people wanted to work on this film thinking it would win all the awards rather than work on The Lion King (now that I think about.. this film has Romeo and Juliet vibes while Lion King take on Hamlet)

[@sakura3837]

I prefer John Smith over Kocoum. Like what Pocahontas said, “He’s so serious”. On second thought, I like Thomas better.

[@tobiasarevalo9929]

22:02 if you think like that racism will truly never end

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

8:22 The raccoon's name is Meeko btw. 😆🦝 12:26 Ah, there's the realization. 😏

[@aliyahpulido953]

24:56 When Pocahontas gives John Smith a small bag right before this, she says it's from Grandmother Willow's bark and it'll help with the pain... Because an early form of Aspirin was, indeed, derived from willow bark!

[@chrissyr8387]

GIRL...your voice is so pretty

[@liampatrick3110]

Out of all the Disney movies that have been remade, this one deserves it the most!

[@PhoenixIsntHere]

This was my favorite Disney movie as a kid but I just can't say I like it now with a clear conscious learning the truth. I will say that this movie probably has the best animation and soundtrack of it's time (or in general) so it is hard to not get a bit excited for it. Just wish Disney hadn't been so tone deaf, but what can you expect. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last :/

[@ashleysadreamer]

I’m just glad we all have same conflicts and same love/memories with this movie - shout out to Sophia’s vibrato!!!!

[@ArcherA]

7:21 As a brit I can half confirm the gift basket joke. If they made a joke about tea and sandwiches, it would've been better Edit: 7:54 Also yes Edit 2: 9:31 and false God's

[@leovk5779]

Hm. The "gift basket" joke can also be taken as very dark humor. See, the settlers often offered the natives blankets covered with illnesses they knew they were unprotected against. So, the naive one is thinking "gift baskets!", while Ratcliffe is definitely thinking about offering the blankets... Don't know which one they were going for to be honest, make it what you want of it.

[@elorasurik1409]

I think a better version of this movie is The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise it seems more realistic and the romance isn't at the forefront. Plus the "white guy" doesn't protect a people because of a girl, he does it because he learnt about their culture and way of life...

[@GenetMJF]

Me as a kid: "Omg I love this movie aaa" Me as an adult after actually learning about stuff "Yikkes!" It's still beautiful and the music is nice but yeahhhh....

[@dannybonsai7102]

What was once cutting edge representation always becomes problematic in a few years. Makes you wonder about the representation we have now, people are already saying it's been bungled. Personally IDK why it's that difficult for Disney, I have some suspicions, but can't know for sure.

[@Red-jl1qr]

I mean, princess and the frog and mulan is still holding up well

[@ajmalaika1287]

The second one has a better storyline that's less offensive/ecky. I still know all the words to colours of the wind and Just around the river bend

[@cxcflower4727]

Ehhhh as a Native it def was still very offensive

[@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi]

The second one is a dumpster fire so bad it isn’t even canon which it shouldn’t be because it’s so awful

[@devinmckay9764]

I loved the Pocahontas bashing! Also, Thomas was voiced by Christian Bale if no one said that already. That's a fun tidbit.

[@triplusional2.0]

Hmmmm... A Goofy Movie next? 🤔 Ofc I hope each and everything one of y'all have a great day today but love and positivity in your heart, mind, body, and soul. Much love to each and every single one of you. This is a funny reaction and a funny movie not just because I'm native descent and I said it from a different perspective on this but still it's funny cuz there's a bunch of red flags. Stevie Wonder could have seen that.

[@kristenwhelchel9581]

I just noticed that Thomas looks like Jim Hawkins from Treasure Planet. Is he an ancestor? Also, John Smith could've been referring to Arabs, Africans, Orientals, or other peoples of the Old World when he made mention of fighting savages. And, I'm a bit of a history whiz on this subject, so allow me to tell you some facts that the movie definitely got wrong: 1) John Smith was actually a redhead with a beard in real life. 2) Pocahontas was, in reality, 12 when she met 30-year-old John Smith. There was no romance between them. Ever. 3) Pocahontas actually was married to Kocuom before he died (I don't know how old she was when they married, though). 4) Movie Pocahontas looks way different than how she looked in real life, but the animators decided that different was better. The reason? Real life Pocahontas wasn't "beautiful enough" for them, so they hired Native American models to provide them the look that they wanted. 5) John Smith did receive a bad-enough injury that he had to go back to London, but there was no fight scene. Rather, he got the injury while he was sleeping in his own cabin. It's not known how it happened, but it is regarded to be an accident. 6) John Smith was sent back to England a few years after Ratcliffe was imprisoned for secretly keeping food away from the colonists during their first winter there. 7) The natives at first had a shoot first, ask questions later policy and killed a few settlers, a dog, and a horse who were exploring the woods before attacking them in the fort the settlers were building, leading to the death of a 9-year-old boy. This caused them to build that wall- which led to over half the colonists dying that winter. 8) Thomas' last name was Savage. Imagine how much grief he had to endure because of that. What's worse, he was the same age as Pocahontas! And he was being bullied by adults. And the only mental institutes available at the time were insane asylums, so... I can't help but feel bad for him. 9) Pocahontas saving John Smith from being clubbed didn't actually happen. It's thought that either John made up the story to give Pocahontas more public publicity to the king and queen of England, or he actually had that happen to him and it was a Turkish princess who saved him and he just replaced the Turkish princess with Pocahontas. With that being said, 10) Pocahontas did actually save John at one point before he received his injury. He and a few other settlers were given lots of corn to eat by the natives. At first, they thought it was a kind gesture, then one night, Pocahontas comes and tells them her people were actually fattening them up to make it easier to kill them. John and the colonists were able to escape this by having the native corn deliverers check to make sure the corn wasn't poisoned. 11) John Smith actually learned how to speak Algonquin before his trip to Virginia, so he would've been able to communicate with Pocahontas and her people from the get-go. He had an apprentice named Samuel whom he taught Algonquin to, making him invaluable as an interpreter just like him. In fact, had it not been for this skill, John would've been killed by Ratcliffe's supporters before the natives became friendly with them. I would like to say, though: that was actual Algonquin speech. The first Disney movie to have an actual native language be spoken in it- even if that native language is now extinct. Don't worry, there are dictionaries available still. How else would they have been able to do this? If you made it this far, AIR HUGS!! Thank you so much for taking the time to read this. Have a good day or night wherever you are.

[@ThePixarDude]

Pocahontas is another cruel and tragic story buttered up and sugared down by Disney. Also Mel Gibson voicing John Smith 10/10

[@georgeyepez4420]

if she nails almost there from princess and the frog i might just marry her lol

[@Cplm92017]

GIRRRRRL I literally JUST met you and I'm already in LOVE with you. Just because I know you're young AF and you know all MY songs from the 90s. Like I love you love you. 😍😭

[@nazhoonab]

At least until you waited until Native American Heritage Month was over lol jk! But yeah as an indigenous person, I loved watching this as a child and now it does make me cringe but it definitely has some really pretty songs

[@QueenCloveroftheice]

I agree that John Smith is probably the least attractive of the Disney love interests. It doesn’t help that he’s voiced by Mel Gibson, and that’s all I can hear when he speaks. Hottest Disney love interest? It’s a tie for me between Aladdin and Eugene/Flynn

[@maricoze]

according to google they were speaking a dead native language but because it's "dead" they might have used whatever scribes where left from the aftermath to make it seem more authentic

[@maricoze]

oh also its called Powhatan language

[@lilygrace298]

“They have hair on their faces like dogs” 😂

[@miepmiep4010]

i always loved this movie as a child I never rlly thought abt it like this.

[@dc1313drc]

Fun Fact: Governor Ratcliffe and Wiggins (his assistant, the one you called "that one random character") were both voiced by the same guy; David Ogden Stiers, who was most famous for voicing Cogsworth in Beauty and the Beast and, before that, he had a role on M*A*S*H.

[@sneakyguest]

I love when you mentioned how good the Disney crackers looked! I used to eat Ritz like that! (But they just aren't as tasty as the animated ones!) 😆

[@cmoeller3]

Like a quote from the Dark Knight says... "This is a world you'll never understand.. And you'll always fear what you don't understand"