This is the most hyper Sora I‘ve ever heard, even when compared to his duels against Kurosaki.
@TheJaredPunch2 жыл бұрын
9:18 Sora saying this of all things…
@user-ip2my3pq2j2 жыл бұрын
He became the thing he swore to de--
@StarblitzNova2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there's Dennis. He used Xyz so he can infiltrate into Xyz Dimension.
@TheJaredPunch2 жыл бұрын
@@StarblitzNova but that was Dennis specifically, not Sora. Then again you could make the argument with Leo having Pendulum Summoning.
@user-gx7mw7vl9u2 жыл бұрын
素良「現れ出ちゃえ!やっちゃえ…死んじゃえ!!」 黒桜「消えちゃえ…出てきなさい…死んじゃえ!!」
@lifedeather2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ip2my3pq2j You were supposed to destroy the XYZ not join them
@purin67922 жыл бұрын
7:04 ...I actually did Sora's fusion pose just because and the next voice line was polymerization. Apparently I'm from Academia. If only this was a fusion monster, then it would be perfect.
@varkolak77792 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Kurosaki to appear.
@e.t.19472 жыл бұрын
Only watched dubbed. Who dat?
@Medinacrystalheart2 жыл бұрын
@@e.t.1947 shay
@e.t.19472 жыл бұрын
@@Medinacrystalheart ohhhh. Yeah having him would be pretty cool
@Medinacrystalheart2 жыл бұрын
@@e.t.1947 yeah
@thecursed_1lordofcats7382 жыл бұрын
We will be able to recreate one of the most exciting duels in Arc-V.
@Zeronigel3322 жыл бұрын
So I noticing a trend with Arc V characters, they don’t really say effect of the card anymore. I understand that some of these cards has really long text but it’s still rather weird how they say “I activate an effect” but not the actual effect anymore.
@angelarce97472 жыл бұрын
Some ace (sylvio and maybe sora with bear) say it
@Dyabolico4562 жыл бұрын
it's kinda better... if your opponent doesn't know the card he is obliged to read it, and is less likely to get negated (if your opponent uses any negates)
@firestylefireballjutsu27922 жыл бұрын
yep, only arcv characters are like this, anna explained amost all of her cards in full details
@Burro..2 жыл бұрын
Sylvio does say "come on back!" when a yosenju monster returns to the hand during the end phase
@thecursed_1lordofcats7382 жыл бұрын
@@Dyabolico456 and we all know Yu-Gi-Oh players don't read, so not having the characters say monster effects means it's more likely the opponent won't know what's going on.
@youkaijsgb2 жыл бұрын
8:02 cutest line aaahh
@dragonairdragon61732 жыл бұрын
Love this unhinged kid who is learning about friendship and love. I'd say "Protect him at all cost", but he most likely turn me into scrap fabric.
@TheJaredPunch2 жыл бұрын
Sora’s Five Nights and Frightfurs begins now.
@pinballpuppy2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaaaa they even did the summon chants! Yes!! I love those c:
@psychicmaster922 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Sora appearing on Duel Links in 2 Days, he's my favorite Arc-V character.
@Kimikospirit2 жыл бұрын
Same sora is my fav arc-v character
@Jonathanloh19922 жыл бұрын
Same here. I’ve been waiting for this character since 2017
So Eileen Stevens can voice come back Leo, Luna, Tori, and a couple of NPCs, but she can’t come back to voice Sora? I don’t get it.
@cloudstrife5322202 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the same thing happened with Bronk and Crowler
@sahanboydl2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, I'm actually irritated
@10islandboy2 жыл бұрын
@@cloudstrife532220 well at least they kept crowlers voice the same
@nontan592 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing Covid restrictions or scheduling conflicts.
@johndelacruz6262 жыл бұрын
I blame on Konami for not bringing back Eileen Stevens as Sora in Duel Links.
@HylianBelmont2 жыл бұрын
I do think it's a shame Eileen didn't reprise Sora (especially since her "young boy" voice on him was honestly far more fitting than it was for Leo, IMO), but Jen does do a decent imitation, I suppose. Oh well, at least his JP voice still sounds great.
@Stinkfly32 жыл бұрын
This is the same voice actress who voices Asana in Rush Duel Battle Royale.
@lily_quaun96762 жыл бұрын
Wait… she didn’t reprise her role? And here I thought she decided to try something different with her approach to Sora. It still _sounds_ like her. Only in the same way that Yuya sounds like Ai, or Riley sounds like Rio or Allie, or Syrus and Joey.
@HylianBelmont2 жыл бұрын
@@Stinkfly3 Which is kinda nice, actually! Glad they gave one of their newer VAs a shot at the role.
@johndelacruz6262 жыл бұрын
I blame on Konami for replacing Eileen Stevens with a different VA in Duel Links.
@michaeltran42752 жыл бұрын
And we all blame the higher ups
@obeliscosmash99862 жыл бұрын
Excellent vídeo, RandomPl0x! I can't wait to Celina to appear...
@nebbynetwork20892 жыл бұрын
Sora Wait the battle isn't over yet I I can't loes not to an xyz summoner it's impossible Shay walks off Sora No shay DUEL ME I want a rematch YOU HAVE TO DUEL ME don't go
@nero12ism2 жыл бұрын
Shun*
@chaosgallade23312 жыл бұрын
@@nero12ism Both names are applicable.
@TomSNC2 жыл бұрын
@@nero12ism don't be that guy
@soupe20002 жыл бұрын
@@nero12ism it's not Shun, it's Syun in japanese translation, get it right at least
@varkolak77792 жыл бұрын
@@soupe2000 It's Shun Kurosaki.
@suhuan59512 жыл бұрын
Sora's sound,kawai😍😍😍
@castieldesupernatural38978 ай бұрын
10:00 -> 1:54
@Astro-Rabby2 жыл бұрын
Frightfurs snowball HARD in terms of attack points, idk if they'll be balanced with only 4k LP. Heck, only 3 material Tiger is an entire backrow gone; two materials for wolf is OTK with a clear field, to say nothing of kraken. BUT I love Frightfur in master duel so better shell out for duel links lol
@toony1232 Жыл бұрын
Yet the deck gets wrecked by the most minimal disruption
@sylvyboi Жыл бұрын
@@toony1232 good thing its recovery is actually insane. but since i don't think the toad will come anytime soon, both scythe and whale plus apollousa would be a good addition
@toony1232 Жыл бұрын
@@sylvyboi Toad?!?!?!
@Xeogran2 жыл бұрын
CUTE Voice! Best Boy!
@gabrielhernandezrozo8482 жыл бұрын
So brutal! I Love! 😍
@JadeHex2 жыл бұрын
On first blush Sora's english va is off, not sure if its either a diff person or a long enough time that the VA couldnt get it quite right.
@chaosgallade23312 жыл бұрын
Different person. Eileen Stevens didn’t come back.
@weedleisopcute36262 жыл бұрын
@@chaosgallade2331 But she did for Tori… why not for Sora?
@androzani84productions852 жыл бұрын
@@weedleisopcute3626 likely because her Sora voice is identical to her Leo voice, which would be far more notable in a game with the two together.
@nightshroud96712 жыл бұрын
@@androzani84productions85 Reiji and IV sound the same in Japanese(same VA) and they are still the same in the game.
@wiirareusb8456 Жыл бұрын
@Androzani84 Productions I don’t think that’s why. It’s likely that Leo, Luna and Tori were first introduced on Duel Links and during that time, Eileen still VA dub for those characters. But somewhere between that and before Sora’s debut on Duel Links, Eileen left and that’s possibly why Sora got a new VA. It’s a same thing happen on Pokémon anime when Eileen didn’t continuing her role as Iris during the Masters 8 tournament.
@EduardoFJU Жыл бұрын
7:59 best voice line
@heilyna98072 жыл бұрын
Me encanta! Sora!!!✨💯♥️❤️😊👏👏👏👋
@michaeltran42752 жыл бұрын
As I have said this fierce breakdowns’ factors’ thread before: Eileen Stevens came back as Iris for Master Journeys and finally made her Champion debut last year, kudos to Lisa Ortiz, the higher ups, Iyuno and Gold Crest She somehow couldn’t come back to her role of Sora for this year’s Duel Links’ moments, I really blame Konami NYC Crossing and the higher-ups for being so equally stupid, high and running out of time as well as pressuring Darren Dunstan replace Eileen with a different English Dub actress: Jennifer Silverman New conclusions: Jennifer Silverman is human, so is Darren Dunstan As for the higher ups: not human sadly
@inesatt13132 жыл бұрын
I didn't know and also you are so right😡
@michaeltran42752 жыл бұрын
@@inesatt1313 Yep. Eileen Stevens is also human as well
@kuriboi9522 жыл бұрын
9:18 what summon?
@megaspacewaffles2 жыл бұрын
Xyz
@bergkatze3186 Жыл бұрын
9:29 😊
@zettatot09142 жыл бұрын
Kinda hope he got spiteful or do a mocking voice when he xyz summons
Okay does anyone know why the voice feels off? Like it's not the same voice actor/actress or something it really bugs me and I need to know
@johndelacruz6262 жыл бұрын
Konami made a bad decision for replacing Eileen Stevens with a different VA named Jennifer Silverman.
@jesusmoraarteaga27262 жыл бұрын
Wao se nota el El Amor del la Seiyu Mie sonozaki Japonés al personaje tiene todo el sentimiento y Amor en el
@tedd16592 жыл бұрын
I thought he has a some kind of enraged Line for xyz summon bcs he hates it From his heart.
@jaernihiltheus78172 жыл бұрын
All characters from GX and onward are from sometime after their respective shows end. So this version has already gone through his redemption arc and thus is no longer racist towards Xyz Users.
@tedd16592 жыл бұрын
@@jaernihiltheus7817 yes i have realised when i challenged him with yuto,kinda meh
@SonySlasher24682 жыл бұрын
I want Yuri and Yugo to appear! When are they gonna appear dammit?!
@PrimeroJinJusuke2 жыл бұрын
Probably after Kurosaki.
@lryuzaki90642 жыл бұрын
Gonna take a while
@YuzuMelodious2 жыл бұрын
Going to take a very long while. Perhaps Yugo may show up after another Yuto related event. Or after Shun Kurosaki., most likely. After Yugo, I imagine Serena to pop up before Yuri showing up.
@Medinacrystalheart2 жыл бұрын
I think shun is coming then yugo then serena and then yuri thats what i think
@jaernihiltheus78172 жыл бұрын
With some exceptions (like GX and apparently Zexal), they *try* to stick to the plot when it comes to who shows up when. Shay shows up before Yugo, so expect Shay to come first (unless they decide to put Shay off a little bit in order to give Zexal time to introduce Rank Up Magics first) Yuri doesn't show up until after Shay, Yugo, Riley, Dennis, Moonshadow, and Celina shows up. So unless they speed up his introduction slot, we'll probably get most of the Lancers, as well as Yugo, first before getting Yuri.
@ksgamer43972 жыл бұрын
NO VOICELINES WITH KUROSAKI???
@BaKa_Ya2 жыл бұрын
What you expect form them the didn't add a line for yuya and reji
@ksgamer43972 жыл бұрын
@YuriTerumi seems pretty generic though. No win lines against him too.
@ksgamer43972 жыл бұрын
@@BaKa_Ya yeah, konami is trash. No excuses for this.
@angelarce97472 жыл бұрын
@@BaKa_Ya lit
@onez12012 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to lose to stuffed animals
@anthonythomas3052 жыл бұрын
Sora!!
@tutte27932 жыл бұрын
sisi ya se que sora viene de la dimension fusion y es normal que fusione todo su deck, pero yo con lo que vi la serie en latino le decia el mini jaden porque tiene la misma voz que el jajaja
@toony1232 Жыл бұрын
Eso le añade sabor al hecho de Sora era malo al inicio lololol
@SonySlasher24682 жыл бұрын
10:52 Oh what the hell I'm not even surprised at this point 😒.
@gabrielgarcia5795 ай бұрын
Sora and Gon-chan
@zac62122 жыл бұрын
10:00 0:56
@lildannyboi132 жыл бұрын
he sounds a little different to me. is this the same voice actor from the dub?
@EvermoreZD2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@dannyeleternity73902 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer the dub to this one
@rafaelv.escobar99642 жыл бұрын
Sora japan or sora usa?
@dannyeleternity73902 жыл бұрын
@@rafaelv.escobar9964 hes saying dub so I'm guessing sora usa
@balistikscaarz19592 жыл бұрын
Eileen Stevens was the original VA, the one who did Leo and Luna (why Leo just sounds like Sora in the dub). The new one is Jennifer something, it's in the credits now you can check. To be fair she does a really good job, though occasionally too much like a female. Although it wouldn't be Sora if we weren't confusing him for a girl so, makes sense.
@UmDevoto2 жыл бұрын
So they removed " and the ruler of the jungle when the two come together prepare to be crumble!!" why? That was his most famous line from the anime
@soupe20002 жыл бұрын
how many fusion monsters does he have? damn
@redmoonfoxx44152 жыл бұрын
In the anime seven confirmed, I checked from Yugioh Fandom 😀
@redmoonfoxx44152 жыл бұрын
Propably more
@EmericMAMBOLE2 жыл бұрын
Considering he's from the fusion dimension, I'd say a lot
@redmoonfoxx44152 жыл бұрын
@@EmericMAMBOLE that's true
@redmoonfoxx44152 жыл бұрын
I wonder if in Arc-v they could have more than 15 monsters in Extra Deck and not including pendulums 🤔
@bryanarturoayonclaudio45212 жыл бұрын
Hello And an question for all youtubers of the Channel,Where the line with Polimerización?
@cybubble8212 жыл бұрын
Vrains is in here why
@angelarce97472 жыл бұрын
They make va record all voicelines that will be used in the future so they dont have to call them again to record They record link voicelines for the future vrains world coming this year
@EverythingGeekPodCast2 жыл бұрын
IMO, Jennifer Silverman does a decent job as Sora's new dub VA. Not the best recast we've had in Duel Links, but not the worst either. I think she does a decent job with her version of Sora. I think like most, if not all, of the other recasts I'll eventually get used to her version. I think in most parts she'd doing a good impression of Eileen Stevens's Sora. My only critique might be when she's raising her voice it sounds a bit off for a character that's a teenager. I don't know. I think she mostly does a good job with her impression, and of course even in parts I perceive to be 'off' that might be how the YGO crew wanted it. Still a big surprise that Eileen Stevens didn't reprise Sora after reprising Tori, Leo and Luna already. Really curious what the reason for that is after she already reprised characters for Duel Links multiple times. Was it a decision made by the crew without asking Eileen first or was Eileen not available? Maybe, and obviously I hope it's not the case, Duel Links is losing money and they needed to cut corners somewhere. With respect to Jennifer, I imagine a long time VA like Eileen would be more expensive to get than hiring a newer VA to do an impression of her character. This is only the second time a cast member that has reprised characters for DL didn't reprise another character later on. The other being Sean Schemmel, but with reports over the years of him being difficult to work with, the leaked audio of him making racist comments etc it's probably accurate to speculate the YGO crew and other companies might've decided they just don't want to work with him anymore. By contrast, Eileen seems like a decent person to work with. It would be interesting to know why Sora had to be recast as I'm sure they would've at least tried to get Eileen again. It also makes you wonder what will happen now if any other Eileen Stevens characters, namely Sherry, are added. Disappointing that Eileen had to be recast for Sora for whatever reason, and possibly the most curious and bizarre recasting in DL so far after she has already reprised multiple characters. I'm sure DL at least tried to get her to reprise Sora as well and that she couldn't for whatever reason, but certainly a curious one. I know I'm curious about the story behind it. Maybe she was unavailable, they couldn't agree on a fee, things going on in her work or personal life etc. I guess what this shows us is until a character is added, it's not set in stone that it will be the original VA. Not even when it's one that has already reprised characters for the game before. I thought it was a no brainer it would be Eileen again and yet here we are. Like I said, I think Jennifer Silverman did a decent job as her replacement and I'm sure I'll get used to her take soon. Just always disappointing when a recast happens.
@supremekingjudai79042 жыл бұрын
And here I thought every Arc V character will have all the same voice actors. Do you think Eileen will return if sherry becomes a playable character?
@michaeltran42752 жыл бұрын
Contact Jennifer Silverman on Twitter for negotiations for the interview :)
@EverythingGeekPodCast2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltran4275 Why Twitter when I'm already e-mailing with her? :P
@GokuBlackZamasu_2 жыл бұрын
I like both the original and the newest
@EverythingGeekPodCast2 жыл бұрын
@@GokuBlackZamasu_ Yep. Eileen Stevens (ARC-V) and Jennifer Silverman (Duel Links) did a great job as Sora.
@kazukiishimura39722 жыл бұрын
I hope I get to see a summon animation of frightfur bear, not frightfur chimera, because chimera has a hard summon condition like antinomy's tg halberd cannon.
@Oni-On2 жыл бұрын
Ay wait a minute why is there voicelines for tiger and cruel whale? I didn't think any of them were getting in cause they seem too good for duel links.
@PrimeroJinJusuke2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Saiou has voice lines for missing Arcana Force cards that don’t exist in any form.
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu2 жыл бұрын
They give voices for as many cards as posible, that doesn't mean they'll all be playable.
@toony1232 Жыл бұрын
Tiger did come out, yo
@GokuBlackZamasu_29 күн бұрын
15:00 i always imagined how sora would sound summoning this card and now im hearing it such a disappointment considering the lore for this card in the manga and him summoning it like any generic card i expected more
@popomm45042 жыл бұрын
I scare look sora face when he angry but his Mr.Bear are cute😢
@user-cu5jj8pn3e Жыл бұрын
遊☆戯☆王ARC-V
@user-wu8qc9bb3e2 жыл бұрын
When Kurosaki appears I hope Death Toy are still full power deck Lol.
@solanofilho85152 жыл бұрын
Naniga deru kana 🥰
@josuerojas78592 жыл бұрын
Ese sora es un lokillo
@elxiz79332 жыл бұрын
It's awesome. Well, I have a favor to ask. Can you recommend me a source to download the character voice files? I want Marufuji Ryo's JP voice.
@jimmyjuarez24232 жыл бұрын
Instant Fusion interesante.
@parkouremaster2 жыл бұрын
Are we sure scissor bear gonna be ace and not mad chimera?
@dannyeleternity73902 жыл бұрын
Probably. Frightful bear was used by Sora from the start of arc v
@rueblie26272 жыл бұрын
Chimera is really hard to summon in duel links, I think they’ll keep it simple and go bear
@firestylefireballjutsu27922 жыл бұрын
@@rueblie2627 that's irrelevant, helbert cannon is also harder to summon than blade gunner, and they went with it for antimony instead
@luckynag76952 жыл бұрын
As much as I want his ace to be frightfur chimera it's most like going to be bear huh?
@bernortega7706 Жыл бұрын
everyone from ph did you hear some curse word? 💀💀💀
@johndelacruz6262 жыл бұрын
Eileen Stevens is a better VA for Sora than Jennifer Silverman.
@user-cu5jj8pn3e Жыл бұрын
エッジインプ
@trueblue62012 жыл бұрын
So what are people thinking will be his ace monster? My guess would be Frightfur Bear or Frightfur Chimera.
@Krisz017772 жыл бұрын
Those are my guesses too, Bear most likely
@SetSeth-yl6ke2 жыл бұрын
Bear probably. I mean, it IS the one fusion monster he summoned in his introduction to the whole series
@thecursed_1lordofcats7382 жыл бұрын
I could just as easily see Chimera being his ace seeing how iconic it was thanks to it's introduction in his duel against Shay.
@trueblue62012 жыл бұрын
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 He also used Chimera in almost all of his Duels after that one save for the one against the Pirate Captain Cutter. I would like it to be Frightfur Chimera just because I think the animation would be great for it but it will probably be Frightfur Bear.
@user-gx7mw7vl9u2 жыл бұрын
素良「現れ出ちゃえ!全てを破壊し、全てを繋げ!デストーイ・サイコ・デストロイガンダム!!」
@prohungary86142 жыл бұрын
Can we unlock sora somehow or nah?
@user-cu5jj8pn3e Жыл бұрын
デストーイ
@goomyiscute7772 жыл бұрын
doesn't refer to Edge Imp Cotton Eater as the 'Pilot of Hell' like in the manga 0/10 literally unplayable
@toony12322 жыл бұрын
Wait, did they add him?
@angelarce97472 жыл бұрын
Whos big bro?
@momokonihin5832 жыл бұрын
Yuya
@user-ip2my3pq2j2 жыл бұрын
Oh, big bro? I tried to match his voices in 2 versions, and it's mean Gong.
@fluxus_ventris2 жыл бұрын
Big brows, meant for Gong
@dzemalhadzic94732 жыл бұрын
So what is his ace bear or chimera???
@alfhifauzan43072 жыл бұрын
Bear is his first fusion monster summoned in anime I don't know what his ace monster is, but Chimera has lot of material (3 frightfur)
@outerinferno69392 жыл бұрын
Bear and it's for free
@roodro70002 жыл бұрын
Cute and mortal...
@TheKhairulredzuan2 жыл бұрын
I dont remember any character have this much of line in game 🥴🥴🥴
@AxelKap2 жыл бұрын
Lmao there are so many characters with more voicelines then Sora
@Dyabolico4562 жыл бұрын
Sounds like taiga the Vtuber
@popom36632 жыл бұрын
Mani manii owllll
@mario-oc2if2 жыл бұрын
Why does Leo sound more like sora than sora I guess this is what happens when you don't do a voice after so long
@drcrowlergaming20592 жыл бұрын
More so that it's a different voice actor, not the original sora actor
@Geordikev12 жыл бұрын
Very fucking shrill, and not one piece of psychopathic dialog, summons frightfurs and doesn’t even sound threatening. Case of VA seeing his photo and voicing him like an innocent little kid
@onesaucdragon2 жыл бұрын
That was literally the point. Sora being a war criminal was supposed to be a secret for the better part of season 1.
@Geordikev12 жыл бұрын
Yes but they’re not going to update his voice lines later down the line, they could have incorporated both, childish for fluffal and sinister for his fusion monsters, hence why zane only got his black cyberdark attire.
@redmoonfoxx44152 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when arc-v was rated 7+ on Netflix altough it has literal genocide
@toony12322 жыл бұрын
Sora literally has psychopathic face in this game too
@thecursed_1lordofcats7382 жыл бұрын
@@redmoonfoxx4415 was it really rated 7+ on Netflix? Might be because of how hard the dub went on trying to subdue the genocide plot point.
@TsukasaRui71684 Жыл бұрын
Get. This. Thing. Out. Of. Here
@Xeogran2 жыл бұрын
🍭
@lucascostadacruz32152 жыл бұрын
third
@mirfandavimaulana83492 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Shun Kurosaki!
@HaouRex2 жыл бұрын
i didin't remember that Sora scream that many in the anime. Anyway nice video. But need to stop at half way.
@user-gx7mw7vl9u2 жыл бұрын
素良「現れ出ちゃえ!やっちゃえ…死んじゃえ!!」 黒桜「消えちゃえ…出てきなさい…死んじゃえ!!」
@galaxy-eyesmastercordero78602 жыл бұрын
The new English voice actor makes me cringe
@ShadowsWrath42 жыл бұрын
Good god, I hate this character. xD I mean it. I mean, I'm sorry. Sincerely. If you like him, that's ok. But dear sweet god, I hate him. Not only does he destroy stuffed animals of which I am NOT okay with but he routinely betrays the main cast. I....I cannot possibly relate with anyone who likes him. [laughing to vent stress] xD Or even...even properly express my bottomless pit of hatred for him. But I don't wish anyone who likes him any ill will and I sincerely hope that he brings them happiness. Sorry, again, for hating him if you like him.
@GokuBlackZamasu_2 жыл бұрын
Oh he brings me a lot of happiness I was in a pretty dark place till this character came into my life I understand why you don’t like him though and I have no ill will towards you
@Xeogran2 жыл бұрын
Sora was conflicted between Academia where he was raised and his newfound friends. He had a hard choice to make, but ultimately joined the good guys and defied his own birthplace which taught him wrong values. He's an extremely great character and I enjoy him as one of my favorite YGO characters as a whole.
@GokuBlackZamasu_2 жыл бұрын
@@Xeogran great description of the character
@servetugur71922 жыл бұрын
shun rocks his shit is the description needed
@GokuBlackZamasu_2 жыл бұрын
@@servetugur7192 last I remember didn’t shun lose the second time they fight?