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[@christianrhodes2699]

when is the rouge video coming out?

[@gvrbeer7441]

The focus is on the castle, instead of you.

[@DareMurdok]

what about a Sorcerer who fakes/disguised being a Wizard, and just does like, faux stage Magician-y stuff, the V,S stuff and just puts on a front about being a well learned Wizard. if the world is anti-Sorcerer, or if Wizards are more respected, etc. could also work for a Warlock.

[@bears4days607]

Hey I left it in a comment but I really want your guyses opinion on this. if you had a build a 4-5 member party in 5e of all the same class but different subclasses and races what would you do? Me personally would do Monk or Mystic For monk it would be Furbog way of the four elements Hill dwarf way of the long death Wood elf Kensi with a long bow Halfling Shadow monk Lizard-folk open hand monk Hobgoblin Kensi and take 3 feets to get heavy armor master And then of course with Mystic you can kind of just do whatever you want because Mystic is completely broken (tank,caster,Dps, support why pick one when you can do all four)

[@pwnyboy9714]

So yeah, I once rolled a Tiefling Sorceror (Red Dragon Variety) who didn't know he was a Sorceror. A very bare bones background of his powers was that his mother was a bombastic, can-do-anything sorceror lady who was known for her attire, particularly her Sunglasses. Well, his mother being a bad-ass adventure lady couldnt settle down and left her husband with her child in a village that eventually came under wing of a Red Dragon... one day, said Tiefling warrior in stupid youth, took his mothers heirloom (her sunglasses) off the shelf and went out to challenge the dragon which was doing it's usual pillaging and stealing of women ect. Miraculously, instead of chomping him, the Red Dragon laughs at him and pisses on him before smacking him away with his tail. The urine, combined with his latent magical power, unlocked his magic abilities but the thing is... he doesn't know that, and he goes out into the world to gather a team of heroes (his disciples he would call them) to take down this Dragon. As it turns out, his sorcery manifests in his bombastic attitude, just like his mother. He uses his mothers shades as a focus (without realizing it, most of the time he's a powerless idiot, until he puts on those shades which makes him a suprisingly powerful idiot) and his somatic gestures come from an almost gangsta style of hand movement as he verbally assaults his enemies. He was basically Kamina from Gurren Lagann. lol

[@meuchikun]

I like sorcerers who, because they've always had magic, see magic as the natural answer to any problem. Thirsty? Mage hand a cup over. They don't shower, they prestidigitation themselves in the morning. They don't yell to get someones attention they simply message. By the time they hit 4th or 5th level the player starts dropping 1st level spells like this just for role-playing, they know they shouldn't but its fun.

[@brosephnoonan223]

Desmond Almonte Same. I really enjoy that idea that since say, a wizard gains their abilities through hard study they have a higher appreciation to not use it frivilously but a sorcerer who was born with this shit is like "Shit, you need to get across this lake? Here, now we can fly." Even though boats are readily available.

[@olliebirdy6120]

I have a Sorcerer who will use prestidigitation on people's food and make it taste like pepper when he's mad at them. 😂

[@GrassPokeKing]

Ollie Birdy Ground pepper or bell pepper?

[@ovbrook3057]

@@GrassPokeKing habanero pepper

[@GrassPokeKing]

ovBri Oh, that's truly Evil, no doubt about it

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[@GlacialScion]

One simple change I made to sorcerers that seems to have made a significant difference to the players was saying that the sorcerers themselves serve as an arcane focus, and thus don't need one separate from themselves or a bag of components like wizards do. It doesn't have a massive impact mechanically, but thematically and player-enjoymentwise, it makes a huge difference.

[@HalfOrcMage]

I've done the same thing and it just makes the sorcerer stand apart

[@GuardianTactician]

Good idea. If you've ever played Pathfinder, they had a feat called Eschew Materials that had the same effect. Sorcerers gained it at level 1 by default.

[@jmartin4396]

This was my approach as well. I look at it that they aren't actually casting a Wizard spell, they're using they're own innate power to duplicate the effect of a Wizard spell. They are duplicating the results without going through the same process.

[@paulcoy9060]

Did this for sorcerers, as well as warlocks. Pact of the Tome's book is treated like an object that gives you powers, not a real book you can write things in. The spells just appear in it's pages. Their Patron has given them magical power, not the training to research the equations needed to cast like a wizard. Plus, wizards get way more spells, because they earned them, and warlocks and sorcerers stick to about 4 spells they use constantly.

[@scook9999]

This is huge, and I agree. This, along with more weapon choices should belong to a sorcerer.What makes this huge, imo, you can Subtle Spellcast every spell while naked.

[@woahitscorrina]

My favourite sorcerer backstory: Born with no magic powers, but upon encountering a genie, asked for them. Genie gives powers, but with a catch - bam, wild magic sorcerer

[@WinterPains]

This could lead to an interesting Multiclass as well.

[@DrLipkin]

My Wild Magic Sorcerer got his powers from eating cupcakes. His father liked to bake with unusual ingredients, and one day he powdered a unicorn horn and baked it into a pan of chocolate cupcakes. My Sorcerer ate them all. Now he always smells vaguely like chocolate, and when he casts, everyone smells cake.

[@Aggarius]

Beautiful

[@theflyingfudgeman9118]

This is absolutely beautiful, I love it!

[@sawspitfire422]

How did his father end up with powdered unicorn horn?! Only evil creatures would kill a unicorn

[@DrLipkin]

@@sawspitfire422 Bought it on the black market.

[@3693396]

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@GeorgMir]

I dig that the Divine Soul basically is the sort of "non-armored" priestly mystic that I always wanted to have: cleric is sort of a sort of warrior-priest amalgamation, while the Divine Soul is an actual squishy character; I kinda like that really.

[@alkemyst337]

Watching this, I thought of a sorcerer who was raised by wizards due to his innate magical ability, but he never quite got how to do magic from the books like his peers. So in an effort to fit in, he carries around a spellbook and pretends to cast from it, but still just uses his sorcerer slots because he still can't wizard "properly"

[@flyingfujigi8560]

I had thought of something similar, except when joining the party, it would be cool to never formally announce my class, and just allow the party to assume that as a spellcaster with a spellbook, naturally I was a wizard. And actually play a wild mage sorc. Avoiding any meta magic as to not give it away, just wait till a crit fail, and then suddenly reveal I was a sorcerer all along by rolling on the Wild Magic Surge Table. Would be a hilarious reveal.

[@esbeng.s.a9761]

Get high deception to foul everyone

[@JonHerzogArtist]

14:55 They way you talked about a dragon showing up to "recruit" their descendants with sorcerous powers was pure Ego from Guardians of the Galaxy 2!

[@JohnvanCapel]

"You send them off to Hogwarts" kinda brings me on a tangent about my interpretation of classes and their interaction with magic. I see a Sorcerer as what essentially happens if you *don't* send a magically-gifted character to magic school - they have to figure things out by instinct and sheer force-of-will, and that causes them to manifest whatever Sorcerous Origin features they get. Hogwarts is basically where they take potential Sorcerers before they manifest anything too drastic (like, say, dragon-scales for skin), and teach them to let their magic out in a controlled manner so it doesn't affect them as much, effectively turning them into Wizards.

[@WinterPains]

Wizards with a single Sorc dip.

[@401martin]

Re: your warlock examples at the end, I'm playing as The Little Mermaid in a campaign now and absolutely loving it. She's a triton great old one warlock / divine soul sorcerer, and gave up her voice as part of the warlock pact (our DM is allowing awakened mind to function like a group chat where I'm the admin).

[@ashley587]

A way I like thinking about fireball being cast by a wizard, a sorcerer, and warlock is as follows: A wizard is the website builder that's gone to school and knows programming, and can make websites from scratch. A sorcerer uses a service like Squarespace to help them build a site, but they still do it themselves. A warlock is the person that doesn't wanna bother with either so they just hire a webmaster.

[@Doughy_in_the_Middle]

In the spirit of the D&D stats as a tomato, I've created this: Wizard: Studies really hard to throw a fireball at people. Warlock: Makes a pact with a demon to set people on fire. Sorcerer: Wakes up the morning of his 13th birthday having set the house on fire. Paladin/Cleric: Prays to the gods to smite down thine enemies with holy flames. Ranger/Druid: ZOMG THE TREES!!!!! Bard: Totally shreds it on the lute and sets the crowd on fire. Meanwhile, as the barbarian, fighter, and rogue finish looting and using torches to set the temple on fire, the monk is very, very angry.

[@mme.veronica735]

Because the monk didn't get an opportunity to shoot fire out of their own hands to burn the temple down. (Way of yhe Four Elements)

[@MartinTraXAA]

Pretty sure a monk setting stuff on fire with their hands is just a REALLY bad case of indian burn...

[@destroyerinazuma96]

@@mme.veronica735 there is a metric ton of revamped Four Elements versions online. I just hope Wizards notice and release an updated version.

[@Painteagle]

I'm so thankful for my sorcerer player for being a fantastic RPer. All of his spells have come in moments of stress and even his Aasimar nature he barely has control over (up until level 3 he thought he was a human). He healed a bunch of people by working in a triage unit after a bombing on the docks and that's how he learned his healing spell. He accidentally cast "Bless" during a pump up talk before the first mission (his first time away from home).

[@anthonydivincenzo5073]

Im starting a campaign where my character started as a fighter, a rank and file soldier, but died in battle, then was resurrected by his party and his time in shadowfell imbued him with dark magic so now he is a shadow sorcerer. Pretty excited for it, seems like its gonna be an awesome character to play. And this video definitely gave me some good ideas, thanks guys!

[@badasunicorn6870]

Nobody: "Fighter with metamagic: I would like to use subtle sword swing." DM:"ok, so you see the guard suddenly aquiring a wound on his neck without any obvious cause"

[@Jah_Coby]

That's just anime

[@WinterPains]

That's just Steel Wind Strike.

[@PanzerIVAE]

All of the things you discussed is exactly why Sorcerers are my favorite spellcasters in DnD I seriously really love the entire innate magic they have and how much RP and backstory potential it gives to a sorcerer/sorceress Like there's just an endless possibilities of where that power came from and how your character and their surroundings react to it I myself always find myself playing sorcerers because I like coming up with a new reasoning and backstory surrounding the concept of innate magic

[@winster6257]

I always wanted to do a setting where Sorcerors are the nobility of the world; being descended from these mystical creatures and blessed with these amazing powers, as well as with high charisma, they would be natural leaders of the mundane people around them.

[@badasunicorn6870]

A friend of my had the brilliant idea of playing a failed wizard who did arcane experiments, and then that resulted in an explosion which gave him wild magic sorcery, and also blue hair.

[@Number1masksfan]

I had an concept for an abberant mind sorcerer with the same concept

[@TheGoraesh]

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[@WebDM]

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[@Draeckon]

If you want to keep growing as a DM, I would also recommend watching Matt Colville's channel. He's got a whole series about DMing that's been a huge help for me. =D

[@TheGoraesh]

Oh brother, I also watch him lol :D I love D&D channels like these two. Thanks for the suggestion though !

[@ardinhelme687]

You are preparing yourself for your ultimate Destiny.

[@lokirip2372]

Jim's "box" is just bigger and more clever then ours. Welcome to town goraesh. Its fun in here :)

[@robertherek4020]

Now I'm thinking a sorc/monk. When his wild magic showed itself his parents took him to a monastery not knowing what else to do, where the monastery can teach him to focus his mind and learn to control his emotions in turn allowing him to control the wild magic he is attuned to. Shadow sorcerer/shadow monk

[@coolgreenbug7551]

And that is how the Hadoken happened

[@Number1masksfan]

You don’t even need to multiclass into a monk, you could have been a part of a monastery without being a monk

[@sylph4252]

That was my first ever idea for a character. Unfortunately, the two classes don't really mix mechanically to well, what with _needing_ three different stats and really benefitting from having two more

[@hicksnumber89]

You're a Wiz.... Sorcerer Harry

[@tristanmitchell1242]

Harry Potter Wizards and Witches would be Sorcerers. Their spells would ALL have material components, but none of them would consume those components and they have an Arcane Focus (their wand) to fill in for them.

[@michaelsorensen7567]

Wizerer or sorcizard. I prefer the latter, but the former wood be hilarious to have modified flavor water spells... :)

[@destroyerinazuma96]

well the reason he survived was soem sort of weird Contingency spell/perma Glyph of Warding his mother had used (consciously or unconsciously).

[@joshdavis4438]

This would also explain the Muggle Born.

[@MDJ7713]

If Saitama is a monk, Mob is a sorcerer

[@the_rose_garden01]

Dude, yes

[@witchBoi_Connor]

Or a mystic

[@Flotsome]

My character is a Warlock who then multiclassed into a Sorcerer. So after my character's exposure and training with his patron he learned to infuse their magic into himself thus unlocking the Sorcerer class.

[@kdolo1887]

One of my favorite concepts is a Tiefling Sorcerer with Draconic Bloodline, but just scratch out everywhere it says Draconic and replace it with Infernal

[@Number1masksfan]

I have a character where their a tefling sorcerer but you don’t replace draconic with infernal

[@silvergrapes4234]

I think an interesting RP opportunity would be if you had a warlock and a sorcerer in the party and the warlock made a contract with the sorcerer and thats how they got their magic. That or the warlock is in contract with some entity that gave the sorcerer their magic. In my opinion there are so many fun things that could be done with this and if your DM allowed it then there could even be some special rules between the two like shared spell slots or other things.

[@cougar71624]

I have always wanted to play a wild magic sorceress that is terrified of magic, but her fear is what acts as the catalyst for her spellcasting. If no one calms her down she just panics and burns all her spellslots

[@danreader8456]

Love the Rp of this class. Love your shows, always great stuff. Keep up the good work.

[@innerkaioken]

A draconic bloodline sorcerer I’m playing’s backstory is that he was captured and experimented on by an evil red dragon who wants to conquer and turn humankind into a slave warrior race, through these experiments one of the dragons own scales was grafted onto my sorcerers heart and that’s why his powers have begun to manifest as he has escaped into the world looking for powerful artifacts to destroy his former captor

[@Draeckon]

I like that. Kinda reminds me of a twisted, evil version of Dragonheart.

[@Zarsla]

My current fave sorcerer, I'm playing is a Bloodline of Levistus Tiefling whose a Divine Soul Sorcerer, Whose sorcererous origin is Levistus. Very doubles down on it, I really like this variety.

[@wyattben123]

I always play sorcerers emotionally, like their emotions just use magic sometimes, maybe when the sorcerer gets angry smoke starts curling off of their robes, or the air gets significantly hotter, maybe when they've just suffered a loss the area around them is bleak, dark and cold to reflect their depression. My sorcerers start off vibrant and full of life, but as they figure out that their emotions are dangerous they start locking them away, becoming cold and calculating. But it doesn't always have to be depressing like that, they could just be very emotional, the party could know that and is always on guard trying to keep the sorcerer from getting pissed and accidentally burning the tavern down because that one drow lady thought she could bark orders at him. or maybe nobody knows why bad things happen to people who piss off the sorcerer. it's a fun concept to toy with.

[@ryankoopacanada]

That’s really cool, My Sorcerer is a Pyromancer and sometimes when he gets mad/upset he blows smoke out of his nose or his hair bursts into flames 😂

[@sleepysentinel147]

Going to play a sorcerer that only uses sorcerer spells that are on other players prepared spell lists at the time I'm casting. You guys are great but always give me more ideas than I can possibly play.

[@rainyxyz]

This is the only channel I have alerts turned on for. I just love these episodes.

[@theflyingfudgeman9118]

I am currently working on a concept for a sorcerer that I'm planning to use soon. He's a blue draconic sorcerer that was abandoned at a young age because his parents were convinced he was completely useless and would only be a burden to raise. A blue dragon found him and decided to raise him as a servant as well as to be his eyes and ears around nearby towns. My sorcerer got his powers from living with that blue dragon for so long that the draconic essence collected in him as well. And the side effect to that life is...well he grew up thinking he was a really strange-looking young dragon, and the blue dragon found this amusing and never told him he was actually a human just for the laughs, so now he often gets the party in awkward situations rambling about draconic might when someone opposes him and then trying to lightning bolt the opposing party to death, the end result often being only a sad zap and some depressed smoke rising up from him

[@tristanmitchell1242]

When I read the blurp for Sorcerer and for Warlock, my immediate thought was "If we have a multi-generation family of Warlocks, all with the same patron, will that produce a Sorcerer?". Just recently, I found a Homebrew subclass for the Sorcerer called Eldritch Sorcery that seems like it might be reworked slightly to fit that. Currently it is more "use INT instead of CHA if you want to! Gain access to Eldritch Blast!" at first level. Later levels grant greater control of the psionic powers you wield, reducing the cost of creating Spell Slots and eventually casting Telekinesis without a Spell Slot, just some Sorcery Points. I think either use that subclass, multiclass into Warlock for a few levels, or some combination of the two.

[@scook9999]

You know, your criticisms are valid, and that's the reasons I am drawn to them over wizards. I find I am more attracted to broken things and how to break them more.

[@MegaFlamingtaco]

Best thumbnails on KZbin! Thanks for sharing all of your infinite fantasy wisdom.

[@DerailedTrainofThought]

love the title card with Strange. It was such a good story and is easy to point at to show the differences between wizard, sorcerer and warlock

[@wynnefox]

10:00 One of the things to think of for inspiration is how Wheel of Time handles it. Sorc is very like the channelers of that world. The men are tainted by the power and people are scared of them because at some point they will just thoughtlessly start killing those around them as they rot. Women though are gifted and the main women's organization, the Aes Sedai, go around like the Jedi of Star Wars, Testing those who can learn or who have it naturally and help them develop those gifts. But there are intricacies too. Some of the cultures see the women as witches to be killed on sight while others raise them to the ruling class.

[@kster809]

I was a DM for a friend who made a character who was a sorcerer who was in denial of his powers. He rolled will saves every round, with the DC going up or down depending on the character's mood, if he was hit, etc. If he failed, I would choose the spell he would cast and tell him what his character suddenly felt compelled to do (he gave me control of his spell list). He played as a hand-to-hand fighter type character until 4th level when he finally accepted his sorcerous abilities and accepted instruction and guidance from a fellow sorcerer.

[@stormchaser9738]

My sorcerer is a phoenix sorcerer (from unearthed arcana), and one of his abilities is to set flammable objects on fire with a touch. He really wants to learn and would be happiest in a library, but whenever he starts to read he gets really engrossed in the text and accidentally lights the book on fire.

[@tyleremery7088]

I'm making a phoenix sorcerer too, and I seriously considered doing something like that. He was raised under the instruction of a wizard and was favored above the other apprentices because of his innate ability, so he could get away with just about anything and would occasionally skip out on training that was "too easy" and go read the ancient texts in the library. I was so close to making him set books on fire by accident while reading - still might do it, even, since I haven't played him in a campaign yet.

[@giraffedragon6110]

The only sorcerer I’ve been wanting to try is a tiefling child wild mage who on first appearances his clothes are to small on him and despite being like 11 he has the mind of a 5 year old. That because of his heritage and his wild surges of magic he and others constantly blame himself for when anything goes wrong. Tieflings are seen by common folk as “bad luck” so add in fuel to that fire and then throw in a 2 lbs packet of gunpowder that is emotional instability and have said magic be tied to their emotional state.

[@lenoirtnb4077]

I'd have my sorcerer grow an addiction to his magic. He's a Wild Magic Sorcerer that has NO CONTROL over his magic without his necklace that suppresses it. Whenever he takes the necklace off, which is absolutely rare, he magic surges with every spell and cantrip. Due to the potency of the magic and his lack of control, he grows addicted to the magic and would take off his necklace frequently to immediately get the rush of using extremely potent magic. Not only this. But to add more depth to the character, the more he gets addicted the more his alignment changes from Lawful Good to Lawful Evil due to the wild magic altering his emotions. Eventually putting him in an ideal that to protect everyone, he needs to absorb more magic and rely on magic more and more, even stealing or killing those who have magical items, even if it was a simple sending stone. Though all of this is simply an idea....

[@TerminallyNerdy]

Ok I love the idea of the DM rolling random spells as I decide to cast. Thats kinda epic and hilarious.

[@michalbelicka3421]

Man I love the Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell thumbnail. I love that book.

[@TheGreyProphet]

An idea I have for a wild magic sorcerer is a guy who was training to become a wizard and one day his master was showing him how the astral plane interacts with the material when some great old one style entity popped up and its presence shredded open the characters mind and ruined his ability to purposefully channel magic, considered a 1-3 level dip in warlock to reflect that lasting mark.

[@Nurk0m0rath]

I've built one who is a GOO warlock and wild sorcerer who was actually a non-magical scholar seeking the secrets of the universe, until his studies led to a vision of the cosmos, where he saw one of the great old ones and became simultaneously imbued with that old one's power and the wild magic of the universe. He's a wood gnome, a scholar, and a very intelligent character with more than a touch of madness about him.

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[@adamoore8073]

One thing I did to help sorcerers (probably my second favorite class behind warlock in terms of flavor) was remove focuses and components for sorcerers because THEY are the source. Also dissolving wild magic and making the table available to all sorcerers on every spell and triggers on 1 or 20. It definitely gives a more personal feel to the class while also making an unknown for them to deal with them. My players definitely seem to have much m!ore fun this way. Love the content guys! :^)

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[@gamasquad10]

My first 5e character was a sorc and I recently multiclassed into sorc just for some spells and superior dark vision from shadow sorc. Y'all are great and thanks for the video

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[@the_rose_garden01]

I wanted to play a blood mage without any kind of homebrew once, so I played a Sorcerer. I reflavored Sorcery Points as Blood Points and said that they're simply the amount of blood that I'm able to release without any real lasting harm. It was pretty fun

[@talonblack8250]

I dont think that a soercer should need spell componets since the magic comes from within. What do you think?

[@darkmoon2503]

That's actually a house rule at a lot of DM's tables.

[@lethe5052]

215 views in 4 minutes you guys have to be doing something right. Thanks for your content as always amazing!

[@thexjackal8064]

Awesome video it gave me alot of rp ideas for how to run my divine soul sorcerer whose power comes from the goddess Eldath in our upcoming campaign. Keep up the good work

[@controllerfreak78]

How many Garfield jokes does Jim Davis get throughout his daily life?

[@MisterTutor2010]

Or Dallas jokes :)

[@Gekuu9]

My favorite character that I've played so far is a Wild Mage... who's only 10 years old. It's surprisingly fun to roleplay an angry child.

[@PraiseJ-Pope]

Lol imagine your char is somehow split from the party, walking around in a shady part of the city and some even shadier guys come up to...but your age 10 and lvl 10 sorcerer just nukes them into oblivion

[@ANTIMATTERLAZAR]

Divine soul, can't wait to player her, have a nice mix of buffing and blasting trying to couple healing with radiant/lightning damage to get that slick "Divine blessing and wrath". I got no idea what good aligned god she's related to but getting zapped back to life just does things to you. Definitely see her going a little power crazy later levels. Elves man.

[@TerminallyNerdy]

You are welcome Jim. Thanks for the help with coming up with them bonus spell lists :)

[@reidtaylor3037]

Terminally Nerdy I have been loving using the bloodline spell lists! Thanks for making them!

[@TerminallyNerdy]

Oh well thanks! Which one have you been using thus far? Or do ya use em in general?

[@reidtaylor3037]

I have been using them for the divine soul on a tomb of annihilation campaign and they have been great! The party would be dead without some of those additional spells. :)

[@TerminallyNerdy]

Awesome! Me playing a Divine Soul is why I did those originally. Started as just the Divine Soul, then I got Jim's help with the Wild and Dragon bloodlines (mostly dragon). Shadow, Divine Soul were all me :)

[@rednidedni3875]

I imagine sorcerers doing the same stuff with casting as other classes. A sorcerer casting magic missle does the exact same vocalizations and gestures as a Wizard would, but they Are Basically temporarily taught These components the Moment they cast Them. Like their innate source of Power Puts it in their mind. Metamagic would still work with normal components, except the components Are changed in subtle and incredibly detailed ways. Like a Twinned spell May have a vastly different component, and the method of how the component changes Might be different based on the spell and stuff like how far apart the two spell targets Are. So it'd still be Standard components, but metamagic is way too complicated to ever be learned and memorized by a Wizard.

[@filip4396]

I had the exact same idea as Pruitt when creating my draconic sorcerer. he's a human, but is great grandfather was "cursed" by a green dragon a long time ago, so when that same dragon attacked my characters village, the dormant power was awakened. Now he's starting to grow scales on his chest, and he's starting to look sickly green all over his body.

[@mordiveer5957]

For some reason i got notified a bit later about this but oh goodness what a great episode! So many ideas! Many thanks one again! You two discussing ideas is one of the highlights of my week.

[@Mehetti]

The idea of a sorcerer rolling a set of spells every long rest sounds awesome. Maybe the spell list is rolled too. "Today you're stuck with the druid spell list have fun." -DM

[@overlordofmidgard5876]

My First D&D character for 5th edition was a dragonborn draconic sorcerer. He was sent away from his clan for accidently burning down their library when his power manifested and not allowed to return until he'd mastered his power.

[@Tuchulu]

Hey guys you are awesome I've binge-watched hours of your content over the last week

[@thezerowulf2046]

Tuchulu welcome to the best dnd channel on youtube.

[@OkamiG15]

To fill the scholarly sorcerer idea, perhaps a wizard who, in trying to understand sorcerers, subjected themselves to powerful magics in order to make themselves a sorcerer. Treating themselves as an experiment of how sorcerers work. They understand spells from a wizard’s perspective, but for flavor everything comes out just a little bit wrong; spells fire off subtlety or get twinned if their control lapses. As a wizard they only knew the nice, simple Burning Hands, but as they become a stronger sorcerer the spell is overfilled with magic and becomes a Scorching Ray.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

"potion making is child's play, I was top of my class in my sch- JESUS CHRIST THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!"

[@kaleidoslug7777]

They Frankenstein-ed themselves! Thats amazing. Like a supervillain origin story

[@varynfel]

Sorcerer reminds me of rand from the wheel of time series where he doesn't know what he's doing and things just happen when he wills it but once he does he can now repeat it at will. Like when Egwyn asked him how he creates portals and has like I just poke a hole like it's so simple

[@tylermallory9977]

The sorcerer is my most played (and favorite) class in 5th edition so far as thematically they can fill out everything that is not prayer or book/music based magic user. my only real complaint about the class is it has a poor variety of spells from its spell list and I wish that all of the subclasses could have an expanded spell list or share spell lists like the favored soul sorcerer.

[@Arohan71]

This reminds me of one of my favorite characters I've created that I want to try to rp. Garis Vaughn, red draconic bloodline sorcerer. He was basically manufactured by a red dragon and a wizard ally to give them a weapon against a rival powerful dragon because the rival had a sorcerer minion and Garis's dragon "father" wanted one too. The two basically created this test tube baby and (non-dragonborn) and raised him to be a perfect evil minion but eventually consider him a failed experiment when he refuses to kill the last member of an adventuring party that tried to wipe out dragon dad. Garis escapes with the aide of the last adventurer he couldn't kill and is raised by an ally of the fallen party. He's lawful neutral because he believes he cannot ever be truly good and so follows a very strict code given by his adopted parent to keep himself and his magic in check. He tries to keep his emotions subdued (and fails more than he'd like to admit). His goal is to eventually kill his evil mother and father to keep them from doing horrific damage to the world but as he grows he needs to also hide from them. In the world largely I'd imagine people aren't TOO freaked out by a sorcerer with draconic abilities since they just assume he's connected with a gold dragon or something but he's VERY cagey about who his actual parents are because the evil wizard and the dragon who are his mother and father so to speak are known quantities and people WOULD freak out if they knew that much. As for if people can tell he's a sorcerer I imagine he has eyes that go to slits if he gets too riled up and perhaps there's an intesnsity about him whenever he's around that makes people think of a predator a bit.

[@mastertorking47]

Did you get to play him yet? How did it go?

[@dracish123456789]

Friend linked me this. Such a cool idea we are discussing a character like this for pathfinder. Love the Rp concept.

[@bexh6181]

I made a sorcerer who's mage armour took the form of a magical girl transformation. First time she saw someone else use mage armour she was like "What the heck was that?!"

[@AlexanderBaird]

I’ve thought recently a lot about adding in another type of metamagic that all sorcerers get. Once per turn, you can cast any spell from the sorcerer spell list that is not one of your known spells at its lowest level. To do so you just spend a number or sorcery points equal to the level of spell. In addition, if you have never cast this spell before you must succeed on a spell casting ability check equal to 10 + the spell’s level, or waste the spell slot and sorcery points in the process. When you cast a spell in this way, you cannot use any other metamagic options on it. Idk I just think the idea that a sorcerer whose entire essence is overflowing with magical power should be able to cast more spells than listed, and the expanded lists in the more recent subclasses are nice but this fits the specific flavor of “I don’t know how I did that I’ve never cast that spell before, it just happened” Thoughts? Edit: 22:30 this was the original inspiration for this thought!

[@Speverban]

Love playing my Wild Magic sorcerer halfling.He is able to affect reality and the universe always rebalances itself, causing weird happenings all around him. Able to bend probability in his favor. Did a house rule where wild magic can be triggered by the halfling luck feature and by the lucky feat. So fun.

[@Flotsome]

In my version I see sorcerers gain their power by infusing themselves and form a spiritual connection with the magical source. That way their back story doesn't have to involve them getting it from birth they can study, train and earn it. That's also how I justify being able to multiclass into it.

[@snapst]

Thank You for doing the arcane/divine classes! I'm really tired of fighter class variations at all channels. I think sorcerer is the best scam artist, and that is the next merchant my party will meet when i rotate back to DM.

[@juvenciorosales35]

You guys are just nailing those thumbnails, keep up the awesome work!

[@tyleremery7088]

I really like some of the ideas in this video, they gave me a lot of inspiration. I should probably finish my current project character (similar to the "bookish sorcerer" idea mentioned) before launching into a new one though lol.

[@blueshoals]

Good video! I've been looking forward to this one!

[@jgig1329]

Sorcerers are my favorite class for RP because there is absolutely no preference for any background, anything goes! It’s such a flexible class for creating an awesome RP experience

[@giausjulius4]

My favorite class to rp. This, rogues and warlocks are my go-to classes for fun rp. As with Jim said my current favorite shadow sorcerer tabaxi stumbled upon a dark room carved into the sewers catacombs and this room was suffused with dark magics which leeched into my character. After a period of death-like coma he comes to and the room is completely normal, the energies having completely infused into the character. But who made that room, what did it do to him? Great way to give your DM a creative hook.

[@t3449]

guys this series is fantastic, i really could not get in to sorcerers before but this has made me come up with a wild magic gamberling addict who is obssesed with the ideas of luck, i was even thinking of also making him an opiate addict as well which may affect how his spells act. Just a general recidivist who like you guys said has these innane very unstable power and hides them through a life of hedonism and poverty.

[@nikolamarkovic4743]

Love the Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell thumbnail reference :D and do see them as a wizard and sorcerer.

[@sammyrobbins6848]

The way I look at it for spells is that a sorcerer trains and hones their magic and they manipulate that energy to give their power structure. So they can cast something that looks pretty much like mage armor but is technically different.

[@Saylor28]

I would love for you to go more in depth about the campaign you were mentioning Jim Davis, about how arcane magic is taboo and sorcerers are hunted down by the druids. I'm currently working on a low magic home-brew campaign and would love to hear or see what your campaign is fully about.

[@bravesplace]

As always, just fantastic work. Great topic and conversation.

[@timkramar9729]

There's a thing like math. Especially when I was younger, I could give you an answer to a problem but not be able to explain how I reached the answer. I would just kind of feel it was right. Sorcery can be like that. Just an instinctive ability to cast a spell.

[@southron_d1349]

"...subtle to the point where you can't tell when he's doing his magic..." Hmmm...

[@destroyerinazuma96]

"Work your magic I Never wanna lose this feeling I am able and I'm willing Yes, I'm willing Work your magic you Set my beating heart in motion When you cast your loving potion Over meeeeeeee" Eurovision, Dima Koldun (koldun actually meaning wizard/sorcerer)

[@jacobcochran3743]

I like the idea of a wizard parent raising their child and realizing his child will never be smart enough or disciplined enough to become a wizard so while they were young somehow bathed them in massive amounts of magic through continuous casting spells on them while they were young or bathing them in feywild or astral powers to turn them into a sorcerer

[@PraiseJ-Pope]

Thats just Sky High but fantasy

[@mobboss4232]

I'm really looking forward to the Ranger segment of this series.

[@Loalrikowki]

Constantine was brilliant. Really hope CW does end up adding it to their slate of DC things.

[@cloudsRniceC0M3]

I made a homebrew subclass for sorcerer for one of my players Power from emotions, a better sort of wild magic. Powered by emotions the player could roll a die to try and unleash his powers depending on what he wants to do. Could give him great powers, might backfire Also cause its emotion based, i made him roll sometimes to see if he could contain his emotions/powers. Accidently unleashing his aura/powers

[@dorukkaptan9926]

Hey can you dm me the details of the subclass, I love the idea!

[@alexnuzlocker12]

I had an idea for a wild sorcerer where his power comes from almost a genetic defect where because his family had been wizards for multiple generations, his own body became infused with arcane energy that was slightly unstable, and so his parents got him a teacher (who is also a sorcerer but has learned how to control their magic) to help teach him how to keep his magic from flaring up uncontrollably.

[@abyssflight3907]

My favorite character RP wise is a Sorcerer that grows(physically) with each level, starts out as a small child and grows through out the campaign.

[@ThisNameIsBanned]

Wild Magic seems to be exactly what they wanted for a sorcerer that just "randomly" does stuff. Point at someone at hope it helps, maybe you "accidently" cast a Fireball, maybe a Finger of Death, or you give turn it Invisible and it will slaughter you group. Works very well, as the DM can kinda adjust the results to do whatever they want to happen (so nobody just randomly dies if they are somehow important for a story).

[@efraim3364]

the old legend of being the 7th son of the 7th son

[@Just.Kidding]

ah, good ol' sourcery

[@jimmyhill5079]

I'm playing a dual class, Wild Magic Sorcerer who doesn't understand his magical side. Wild magic just goes off. I use the Greatest American Hero symbol.

[@the_rose_garden01]

Whats the other class? You said you were dual classing and I'm curious as to what the other one is

[@HBookbinderGM]

I love the idea of WM Sorcerer. I finally get to my play one and DM allowed me to manage rolls on WM Surge table. Less to do for DM which is a problem of the class. Now, my character drew an infected by a Slaad secret. How perfect! The Slaad is enamoured with the chaotic nature of my magic - in a Venom-like way develop a symbiotic relationship. ie I gain the “natural weapons” of Alter Self, the WM Surge table will be homebrew to better reflect the origins of my magic and the Slaad influence - balanced between positive/negative to PC and party, area effect, humorous, etc Maybe on a 1 the Slaad bursts from my chest. ;)