SORRY ABOUT YOUR BIKES 😬 Mont-Sainte-Anne WORLD CUP DH - Vital RAW

The last Vital RAW from the 2023 UCI Mountain Bike World Cup Downhill season delivers like never before. No bike or rider is safe on the Mont-Sainte-Anne DH track.
#MTB #DH #bike

[@cobrien120]

Long time listener, first time commenter: I ain’t eva gonna stop watchin vital raw by John Lawlor

[@danielfloyd9742]

Kill Tony fan?

[@cobrien120]

@@danielfloyd9742HOW DID YOU GUESS

[@vanouellette8031]

I AINT EVA GONNA STOP

[@tacos17]

You need to show more respect to John lawlor, he paved the way

[@tomrow3284]

Hey Vital MTB, if you have any influence on the UCI, can you show them how to film DH?

[@PNW4130]

Step 1: have the cameramen climb down out of the trees

[@shalakabooyaka1480]

@@PNW4130 step 2: not have the uci involved

[@rorykoehler9018]

I don't even bother watching the racing anymore. I only watch John's Vital videos.

[@tylernicholls917]

I agree 💯👍

[@JubeProductions]

Great job at catching the action John. I always look forward to seeing the raw videos, it gives me a better idea of who's running fast for the race, who's hitting what lines and who is looking good. I hope BK gets his first win, he's been gunning for it all year and has been close.

[@a.r.8850]

pinkbike for rankings and track, dialed for setup and feelings, vital to see how the first two translate to action. awesome guys ❤

[@SkarTisu]

Dear YT, please change the color on your frames so I can easily identify the Yeti prototype on track. kthx :D

[@sp00n]

Stevie Smith, Destroyer of Wheels. In the men's junior race, two guys in a row destroyed their rim at that exact same spot and then stood next to each other. It was quite hilarious

[@AlexanderNovikov]

Pleasure to watch sir, thank you for the top content this season!

[@Ganiscol]

Watching this rock slab action and having seen the juniors race without any cameras in there, where the wildest action happens, I wonder if Discovery lost all their remaining marbles and just freestyles it as if there is nothing to lose?

[@sp00n]

They're probably just gonna show the faces of the managers, trainers, cooks, salesman, whatever instead again

[@seanoneil277]

Discovery got their start selling "science" shows that were, at best, watered-down and politically slanted pseudo-science. Small wonder they're treating the world's finest DH riders the same way they treated Science, by turning it into liars wearing white lab coats and talking soft NPR style. Apparently they want Roller Derby style "action" and not a celebration of human abilities in coordination, fitness, body awareness, spatial awareness, terrain reading, anticipation. No, let's just make it a circus. I feel bad for the racers on this side of their experiences at the top levels. On the plus side, as many are saying these days, the level of competition is pretty wild.

[@MrTidjon]

it's just amazing, to me, how silent this bikes are!!! (until they break at least lol). Great vid!

[@seanoneil277]

Great footage Mr Lawlor thank you very much. Vali at 1:47, her ease & confidence. So good to see her growing into her abilities.

[@nitbot]

Sick video mate, I love your content

[@MikeBarbarossa]

Carrying amazing speed through the chunk. Great talent

[@crush1221]

What voodoo magic does the specialized team employ to keep their bikes so damn quiet as they go past?! No wheel chatter, no chain slap, no bumps or rattles, just tyres gripping and the hub. Crazy.

[@ZeroTalentCrew]

what did you change on your microphone? The rock slab area sounds softer today compare to yesterday's video... Good job you do!!!!

[@JesseMelamedMTB]

How does anyone make it down without breaking a wheel or flatting? This track is gnarly.

[@benjy288]

The first guy broke his wheel

[@bicipapi69]

I think more air? They're running very low pressures in the back tire imo

[@BikeIsLife4EverGG]

what is the brand of the rim? the rim broke with the tire inflated

[@BikeIsLife4EverGG]

shit rim@@bicipapi69

[@rossejera1661]

@@BikeIsLife4EverGG looks like crankbrothers

[@CaliBeats]

so sick!!!

[@freefighterkms5454]

nice video!!

[@bibeauxxx]

yes sir....sick

[@benjy288]

What wheel was that very first guy using? that wasn't a great endorsement for it.

[@cosmeharzig9679]

Level is so high ! Line so hard 😳

[@aaavellone]

I knew it was going to be brutal, but seeing everyone get flats during their first practice runs was just nuts.

[@funky-phantom]

HOLY SHIT that save by Jackson

[@toria-j]

So, from 5:40 is the drop which killed a lot of bikes (and chances) in the junior men, but wasn't shown?

[@seanoneil277]

Every broadcaster since freecaster has struggled to cover the important sectors, almost as if they are trying to do that.

[@harveycasey1900]

Wow👍🏿

[@Simon-Simon-Simon]

Lucky wheel blew up on the drop that high speed

[@JubeProductions]

5:52 and it all goes wrong. I had that happen to me once, and at first it doesn't register what happened. You can't understand why your bike got 5 inches lower all of a sudden, and now you BB is dragging on the ground.

[@rorykoehler9018]

When I broke my frame on a similar case I couldn't figure out why the brake was rubbing suddenly haha

[@rudatv7330]

like. Brasil!!!!!

[@dansharpie]

ais a smaller 26 inch wheel is stronger ?

[@hannes6114]

Yes but they are too small

[@Antnerd]

Is this a cereal commercial? Because I hear plenty of Snap, Crackle, Pops!

[@batipapo]

How did that wheel break? It doesn’t seem like a harsh hit and well sloped?

[@cmtx6967]

Not sure either, I think it may of been the wheel took prior impacts on the track and then that drop was the final impact that made it break.

[@seanoneil277]

@@cmtx6967 It would almost surely be that, cumulative impacts earlier in the track. You can see in the long descending right hand turn slab, that one slab alone is likely to maim or kill any rim.

[@cmtx6967]

@@seanoneil277 which section are you referring too? Can you share time stamp? Interesting to know what tyre pressures these racers are running as well. I think they must be sub 25 psi at a guess.

[@seanoneil277]

@@cmtx6967 The long rock slab section that is slightly earth/grass covered in the open but pure rock in the trees, it has a pretty sharp and very choppy right hand turn mid or 2/3 through, and ends with a long slab series of choppy drops before an earth/dirt/roots left hand turn. Same section where Goldstone saved a near endo in practice. It has to be the number one frame and rim and rotor and derailleur eater section of the track, in a track that has several such sections. On the clock it would be around 8:30, where Kade Edwards had a great run with a bobble saved at the end. That section.

[@a.r.8850]

Try slomo, you'll see why. He hits the edge of the plank,

[@davea8346]

Who is that at 2:03 to 2:08?

[@xLordSpicy]

VH looking to quick. Finn looking super pinned too. Mechanicals gonna make it a interesting race weekend

[@Ganiscol]

If you roll over Anne and not be gentle about it, Anne will break your wheels. Because Anne hates wheels.

[@seanoneil277]

Either hates them, or maybe loves eating them!

[@calypso2niner]

Bike breaking noises...

[@Josh-io5uh]

This is super controversial and I totally understand that carbon can be stronger than nearly any other material a bike can be made of. But watching that wheel break (which I admitedly do not know for a fact is carbon) makes me wonder if there should be more conversation about which parts of a bike are ok to build out of carbon. Particularly in DH where we aren't trying to make bikes lighter. I've seen a number of pretty big carbon failures in UCI and other circuits over the last few years and they all make me wonder if we should be talking more about how carbon acts when it does fail.

[@vitalmtb]

in jr race, there were alloy wheels exploding too.

[@benjy288]

@@vitalmtb I wonder what brand and model wheel they were using? a wheel shouldn't explode from that, its not even that bad.

[@ROSE-by5su]

Before we go crazy on that first clip we should ask what is his spoke tension we can’t just jump in to conclusions

[@Josh-io5uh]

@@ROSE-by5su - I totally agree but the way that his wheel just collapsed into multiple pieces from a hard but not overwhelmingly crazy impact brought me back to several other carbon fails, in things like crank arms and bars, that I've seen in recent years. It seems that theres a huge push for DH bikes or parts of these bikes to be made of carbon and I honestly wonder if that's more for the market, because you can sell a carbon bar for 2x as much, than because carbon is the absolute best material for these applications. I'm not a carbon hater. For sure carbon wheels feel primo and carbon is strong as can be but when it fails it fails catastrophically and I'm always left wondering... why was that carbon?

[@Josh-io5uh]

@@vitalmtb This track really is something else.

[@wonderwatch2239]

No Edbull media and MoiMoi tv commentary 👎🏼🤣

[@davidemarsu7098]

That impact wasn't even that hard

[@hannes6114]

Propably was damaged beforehand

[@davidemarsu7098]

@@hannes6114 most likely

[@benjy288]

@@hannes6114 Probably, but still, I'm guessing that was probably a brand new wheel, I wouldn't expect it to do that, remember Gwin's run with no tyre.

[@hannes6114]

@@benjy288 yeah it is not good for a wheel to break there - we can also note that is was carbon...

[@seanoneil277]

@@hannes6114 I've read chatter about the combination of plastic rim and DH casing and thicker/denser insert like CushCore Pro has been overstressing the plastic rims' deformation limits. The air chamber contained by the insert is tinier causing more burst force on sharp impacts than the same rim would suffer w/o insert, or with more porous/weaker/thinner insert. Whether that chatter is accurate I don't know.