Reacting to DBZ Abridged History of Trunks MOVIE Without Watching Dragon Ball Z

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[@ericmerrill9808]

The sheet box thing is when they want to cover a patient for warmth and privacy. Generally when there’s a lot of problems with skin or severe injuries that you really don’t want anything touching.

[@toonguy1]

that's great attention to detail on behalf of the original artist

[@toonguy1]

come to think of it Japanese people are probably extremely familiar with them thanks to WW2

[@darknesswave100]

​@@toonguy1goddamn 😂

[@Dad......]

It's called a Bradford frame, or less commonly known as a Baumgartner frame. I'm almost certain that's what it is, that or a striker frame for turning over patients with spinal injuries. Still leaning towards the former though.

[@gurvmlk]

Which makes sense, since injuries from energy blasts would likely be most akin to severe burns.

[@midnightmorpher9066]

Lmao I love that they brought the Vegeta scream back in the special

[@pjs8433]

Yeah, too bad they didn't notice...

[@Razgriz85]

The scream that damaged Lani's voice for a while.

[@kaik.9497]

PURE RAGE!!!!!

[@Lord_Cynrik]

@@pjs8433they don’t notice shit lol, they’ve missed literally dozens of jokes over the course of dbza

[@adelbechtoula]

​@@Lord_Cynrikagreed they seem like they can't memorize any gags from the show

[@anyathepanther7977]

"Will Dinner bring my Husband back?!" "Maybe???" Ya know, knowing Guko, it could work.

[@LSSJGod]

Who’s Guko? Is he related to Goku? Lmao!

[@EpsilonD2]

​@@LSSJGodYou know who Guko is. He's the secondary luper Mayan

[@arcstar8337]

​@@EpsilonD2 the one and only rival of mondongo

[@Orson_Welp]

I love that this is a Gohan who never got to work through his issues with Goku in the Cell Saga He's super repressed, fails to overcome his passivity until years after it's too late, and puts too much pressure on himself as a mentor This is the Gohan we would have if the "Goku is a bad dad" crowd was unironically right

[@kmgyening]

Eh, I think your last statement is a bit of a False Dichotomy. There's no reason that Goku couldn't both be a bad dad and Gohan still not turn out like how this special portrays him. It at least depends on the argument/conditions as to what makes Goku a bad dad.

[@iceman7757]

@@kmgyening NEEEEEEEEEERRRRDDDDDD

[@kmgyening]

@iceman7757 W...What?

[@iceman7757]

@@kmgyening WHY DIDN'T YOU DODGE

[@omnixo5050]

I just love how dbza brilliantly portrayed 17 and 18 having actual sibling behavior 😂

[@SoundwaveSC]

I don't know why people give DBZA credit for this when it's literally in the original movie.

[@LeoneLaTwerk2]

Exactly! "Hey 18! Try closing your eyes ! It's cool!"

[@tillburr6799]

@@SoundwaveSC The sibling behaviour was done better in dbza

[@HabitualThinker]

@@SoundwaveSCyou’re acting like they had anywhere near a compatible amount of character in canon. They really didn’t. They did have a sibling dynamic, but they were also more cardboard boxes than characters

[@Meruem_King_Of_The_Ants]

​@@HabitualThinkerwell they were literally androids,so It made sense they didn't express emotion that much.

[@_zurr]

This special goes hard, and TFS went harder when abridging it. One of my all-time favourites.

[@rpgrage7711]

The most heartbreaking dbz special and trunk's ssj transformation is so good it's done well in dbza

[@umbreonix]

Saddest part is there’s a timeline where after all this happens, cell still kills trunks before he can even go back in time

[@JohnYoo39]

Kaiser's loveletter to Trunks

[@EskChan19]

@@umbreonix No he kills Trunks after he goes back in time. Remember the Androids are dead in that timeline, because Trunks goes back to the past, tells everyone about the androids, they build the remote to shut the cybnorgs down, then Trunks goes back to the future with the remote to shut his own cyborgs down, then Cell kills him and goes back to the past, where now Cell appearing in the past changes the timelines yet again to where Trunks knows Cell will appear to kill him so he can kill Cell first.

[@vailingbow1068]

@@EskChan19 My brain hurts 🤣

[@magicalarthur2555]

Before I looked at the captions, I didn’t think Trunks’ incoherent babbling was decipherable

[@VBane]

The epic sorrowful music that plays over Trunks finding dead Gohan and going Super Saiyin is actually from Doctor Who as well. Its called Doomsday, which is the episode its from.

[@Dad......]

Underrated comment. Thank you from us who don't care for Dr. Who.

[@largo778]

@@Dad...... Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate

[@josephstafford7741]

One of the best call backs in this episode. When it shows the time skip 3 years later when Trunks is talking to his mom you can hear Vegeta screaming. This is a refrence to the episode where Gohan stole the dragonball from Vegeta causing him to rage and his scream was heard by Trunks in the future in which when heard he says "Daddy?" I notice that most reactors miss this and the joke is golden.

[@Dad......]

and they completely missed it haha

[@alexanderzack3720]

@@Dad...... because they don´t pause when they start any discussion or debate which results in them missing a lot of plotlines and jokes

[@Dad......]

@@alexanderzack3720 oh well, they'll catch it on a rewatch.

[@infini_ryu9461]

That first bit of music at the theme park is from Chrono Trigger, a Super Nintendo game from like the 90's, it plays during the Millennium Fair. There was also Magus' Theme from that game that played when Piccolo first appears against Frieza after fusing with Nail. Really good game and bomb music.

[@skylineg6618]

Yep, a game based on time travel. Just like why they choose Doctor Who music.

[@PsychoDiesel48]

YES! I freaking LOVE that ost

[@mikieoboyle6127]

Akira toriyama actually did the art for chrono trigger

[@infini_ryu9461]

@@mikieoboyle6127 I know.

[@RogueHippie13]

While Monty didn’t help with the show, he was an avid fan. There’s multiple instances for behind the scenes stuff in early RWBY where you can see DBZ on one of his monitors, and it’s actually DBZA episodes he was watching

[@ave_r_ie]

He was also set to play adult Gohan before his passing

[@Dad......]

RIP Haloid guy

[@Kidcronos]

I believe why Gohan just didn't wait until Trunks was better trained to face the Androids was because with no dragon balls, he'd essentially be dooming the remainder of humanity. And it's very likely he'd still die even with Trunks.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Sometimes I wonder why trunks didn't just go back and save gohan. Since he eventually knows it's multiverse theory, he could still do that. That could be another whole movie.

[@ThesocialmuteHD]

18:57 nobody noticed vegetas rage scream from namek?

[@PsychoDiesel48]

Guess not

[@KingdomCome257]

14:59 In Dragonball Super, people lost their minds when 17 was reintroduced as being a park ranger, and TFS stated they were able to meet Toriyama and ask him what would 17 be if he grew up, and he said he'd be a park ranger.

[@Dad......]

Actually, it was first mentioned in an interview/Q&A with Toriyama in one of the colored Dragon Ball Manga, where someone asked him what 17 did after the Cell Saga and he said the following: "After the conflict with Cell, Android 17 becomes a park ranger in the wildlife preserve area of a gigantic royal nature park, where he is well paid. He is an outstanding guard who does not hold back against poachers. It is an ideal job for #17, as he loves to be on his own and is not big on cooperating with others; since he is so good at his job, he takes in a high salary. Android 17 also marries a zoologist; they have one child and two adopted children, and live happily in an isolated house inside the nature park. He went and met #18 and Krillin one time, but did not talk about what he had been up to, maybe because he considers such a wholesome lifestyle embarrassing." So basically, it was a spur of the moment ass pull from Toriyama to make his interview more interesting. I think this may be the same interview where we got the names Lapiz and Lazuli for the androids, and the idea that 16 was based on Gero's son.

[@yorradown5977]

nah they didnt meet toriyama, the park ranger answer was from an interview with a magazine, also he was a park ranger in the End of Z Spirit Bomb and GT

[@DallasHustla2000]

Playing the Doctor Who music made that scene even better.

[@Dad......]

24:05 And she knows immediately that it's not Multiverse Theory or her future would have changed as soon as he left. And he would have reappeared almost immediately. So instead of being able to go back and change his present, he can only go to the past to learn how to save his present. Theoretically, he could also take something or someone back to his present with him to help save it, or just abandon his timeline and move he and his mother to an adjacent timeline where the androids never attacked. That's the more morally ambiguous choice though, as you're leaving a world still ruined as you falala onto greener pastures.

[@Deverosfear]

26:01 ok here is how it goes: Timeline 1: Goku dies Trunks goes back in time creating timeline 2 Kills the androids and is then killed by Cell who goes back in time creating timelines 3 and 4. Timeline 2: Trunks shows up kills Frieza Gives Goku heart medicine then, they all kill 19 and 20 then deals with androids 16, 17 and 18 probably with the bomb remote. Timeline 3: the same as timeline 1 until timeline 2 becomes timeline 4. finds out about cell and Kills the androids and then killes Cell. Timeline 4: the same as timeline 2 until cell shows up and then becomes the tv show.

[@LightningKing91]

Bruh this is too much

[@millasboo]

25:42 It’s actually 5 to 6timelines. OG Main timeline is trunks timeline,Trunks going back makes a second one. Then trunks heads back after warning everyone timeline 3 is created from that (the one where cell killed him after sneaking him ) cell goes back in time that creates a 4th (that’s the cell saga timeline up to a certain point ) a 5th one is created when timeline i believe timeline 2 trunks actually comes back.(This is the actual complete cell saga timeline that we followed) He is killed again by cell but this time in the cell game fight. He then is brought back by the dragon balls after timeline 3 & timeline 2 cell is killed then trunks goes back making a timeline 6 fully uninterrupted by the events of the other timelines but timeline 1 as everything in timeline 1 happened in timeline 6 but the one difference is Trunks never was killed by cell & beats the androids easily due to his strength. That timeline is the timeline you see in super up too a point as that then gets splintered into a temporary 7th effing timeline. So currently there’s 6 timelines 3 dystopian 3 normal and 1 that was erased.

[@millasboo]

Multiverse theory is a f***** bitch!!!

[@HabitualThinker]

For the purposes of any conversation, there are 3 timelines, as only 3 (technically two, honestly) of them are plot relevant

[@bowbowbowbow6007]

Its just three, the og timeline (trunks’s) our timeline (super) and the alternate timeline where trunks is killed by cell

[@A5p3r07h]

None of you seemed to notice Vegeta's RAGE transcending both SPACE and TIME. The disrespect is palpable.

[@milkdudder]

As a long time DBZ fan, I was almost screaming at how hard they struggle to understand such simple rules of time travel I've understood since I was twelve.

[@SomeRandomMario]

Because DBZs timeline is actually really stupid.

[@ElHarmonyV]

​@@SomeRandomMario Not Really, it's pretty simple to get a grasp on.

[@pupulauls]

The guy in the bottom right pisses me off so much

[@KAlexanderTheGreat]

Cell going back to timeline 2 (the present timeline) to before trunks shows up does create a new timeline. However, trunks going back to his timeline, knowing cell is going to kill him does

[@Dad......]

22:30 Looks like a striker frame or something similar. Striker frames are used for turning over patients who can't be moved much due to their injuries, specifically in the case of spinal injuries and other injuries exacerbated by movement. It could also be a Bradford frame, which is like a cage that goes over the patient's body, especially useful if they've got burns or skin grafts and you don't want clothes touching it. The blanket over it is just for warmth and privacy. In other words, they got homie in a box because he got his shit pushed in.

[@alexanderren1097]

I’ve seen this probably a dozen times and I only just now noticed Vegeta’s screaming in the background starting at 18:57

[@Kortegard0341]

15:05 Fun Fact: Android 17 is the only named DBZ character to use a gun.

[@MC-zr6gc]

Original timeline : Trunks went back in time, helped beat the androids, no Cell, goes home gets killed by cell, Cell goes back. So there's an alternate "mainline" timetime with the Z fighters and the androids are dead no cell.

[@scottwoodward7103]

26:17 Oh lord. My only response to this is to quote Goku "Why does everything smell like copper?"

[@JarryMingles]

11:35 yes, you can split the senzu bean. Goku did it to share it between Krillin and Gohan back in the Saiyan Saga when he arrived at the battlefield, it seemed to work just fine eating only half of it which makes you wonder why wouldn't they exploit the senzu beans like that throughout the series.

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

Listen carefully @ 18:55 - You can hear Vegeta screaming from that time when his rage broke on Namek. It's continuity like this that I loved with DBZAbridged 😂

[@Dad......]

26:00 No. You're too high lol. Cell and Trunks went to the same timeline, so that doesn't create another timeline. There's our timeline, Trunk's timeline, and Cell's timeline. We'll call them A, B, and C respectively. Trunks goes from B to A. Cell goes from C to A. That's 3 timelines. The real question, considering it's multiverse theory and all, is if Trunks could ever get back to his original timeline at all. If we're to believe that it's multiverse theory, then that means that Trunks may never be able to get back to his actual timeline, only an infinite amount of incredibly similar timelines. So Bulma from universe C may NEVER get her Trunks back, and is stuck in a ruined world alone unless another Trunks from another universe comes along. When Trunks (originally from B) travels "back to the future" he may actually be traveling to a parallel universe remarkably similar to universe B. In this new universe (Universe D) Trunks meets a parallel version of his mother who ALSO sent her Trunks back in time, and so is happy to see "her son" return. Trunks destroys the Androids of Universe D, the Cell of Universe D, and then lives out the rest of his life in Universe D, completely unaware that he left his real mother in Universe B. To support this theory, I point to Trunks' hair in Super. Maybe it's blue because he's a remarkably similar Trunks from another universe (Universe E) who had a similar trip to the past as Trunks from Universe B, and so has the memory and familiarity that Universe B Trunks would have had. He's not aware that he's not visiting the same universe as before, and they're not aware that he's a different Trunks. That's all for funsies though. Wouldn't make a lick of difference anyway. It's like wondering if teleporters kill you and spawn a new one on the other end. You couldn't prove otherwise, but it would have massive implications for any sci-fi show. Nothing would change, story wise, but it's neat to think about.

[@D.Enniss]

For the sake of the show there are 3 timelines at this point, But if ya wanna get crazy with multi-verse stuff, anytime they use a time machine they go to a different timeline, so it's really at least 6 lines we looking at

[@Lightning_Lance]

So there's a past timeline where Trunks shows up but Cell doesn't. That Trunks helps them defeat the Cyborgs in the past, and then comes back and defeat the Cyborgs in his own timeline. Those would be timelines 1 and 2 "chronologically". Then that Trunks wants to go back to the past again to celebrate, and Cell shows up and kill him and steals his time machine and goes back in time even further. That would cause a paradox, so it creates a further divergence, creating timelines 3 and 4, which are our timeline and the one the future Trunks we know comes from. Or maybe this is simpler: 1) Dead Trunks and Cell's original timeline 2) past timeline: Trunks shows up, Cell doesn't. 3) Future Trunks' timeline 4) main timeline we know: Trunks AND Cell show up.

[@dannybob42]

This is a great special, both original and TFS, and it has perhaps one of the best Super Saiyan transformations in it

[@dannybob42]

Also in terms of timelines it's kinda four Timeline 1 is the one where Goku dies; Trunks goes back in time sure but he can only return to his own time, but there's then 1a where Trunks defeats the Androids but is killed by Cell and 1b where Trunks kills the Androids and Cell Timeline 2 is where Goku survives, but there's 2 timelines of that; 2a is where Goku survives to fight the Androids, however we never learn its outcome because of Cell, 2b is the story timeline which leads into the Cell Saga Time travel is messy though so you could even branch it out to even more timelines; 1c would be a timeline where Time Travel is impossible or Trunks still isn't strong enough to beat the Androids, 2c would be the story if Trunks didn't show up a second time and point out that Gero and 19 weren't the actual Androids, which would probably have led to an outcome similar to Timeline 1.

[@darknesswave100]

Yeah I'd say there has to be 4 of them. Cause there's main one where the series takes place. There's another one where trunks is in this. Then there has to be another one where cell kills trunks and takes his time machine since cell mentions it himself. Then one where basically everybody dies

[@lordgenerias]

I love how you know Mr. Piccolo's voice is a hallucination because he can actually pronounce Makankosappo. It's clear from the start, but the hint that Mr. Gohan doesn't have a telepathic link with Mr. Piccolo from the afterlife is that Mr. Piccolo says it correctly.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

Where did Gohan learn the proper pronunciation

[@lordgenerias]

@@ZeallustImmortal Mr. Piccolo probably stumbled through it during a story, and Gohan figured out what he meant to say when he realized Mr. Piccolo was going through his edgelord phase when he named it (Makankosappo means, roughly, "Demonic Light Piercing Murder Gun").

[@Geth-Who]

8:32 The music's from Chrono Trigger on the SNES. Freaking masterpiece of an RPG, all the greatest game devs of the time came together like the Avengers to make that shiz. And the scene for Trunks finding Gohan's corpse is Doomsday, from the Doctor Who soundtrack.

[@skylineg6618]

I like you express game devs, but surprised you didn't specify Akira Toriyama since it applies way more than the others here lol

[@RyanYu13]

Dodging will always run in the family

[@essay1218]

Dying*

[@pyronuke4768]

I like that TFS uses a lot of dr who motifs in their Trunks stuff

[@brolytriplethreat]

There are four timelines. 1) The OG timeline. This is the one the Cell we all know comes from. Trunks went back in time, and creates... 2) The Unseen timeline. Basically the same as the main timeline but Cell never shows up obviously (well that little larva Cell in Gero's Basement would presumably grow up uninterrupted but that is besides the point). After Trunks returns from that, he is killed by Cell who takes his time machine and travels to a point one year _before_ Trunks' first arrival. That aspect is I think important, as it causes the number of timelines to double, creating... 3) Trunks' timeline. Aka the world the Trunks _we've_ been following hails from. Trunks still travels back in time, but now he's interacting with Cell in... 4)The Main Timeline. We have Cell around, and his actions have caused things to play out differently for both the present characters and Future Trunks.

[@nicholasmartin6526]

There are 4 timelines Timeline A: the main timeline we normaly watch. Timeline B: Trunks timeline. Timeline C: Cells timeline. Timeline D: The timeline Cell's Trunks went back to before he (Cell) kills him (Alternative Future Trunks).

[@ranime8156]

technically there's 2 main timeline and the timeline where cell kills trunks is the same timeline it's just in the future trunks came back defeated the androids and had the happy ending then he got ambushed by cell and cameback so it's just 2 but one in the future

[@theatlascomplex2052]

@@ranime8156 timeline D doesn’t have a future cell, so we have no clear idea how the android crisis concluded. That Goku didn’t sacrifice himself at the cell games.

[@toshironikko]

timeline D is the same as timeline C = 3 timelines

[@ranime8156]

@@theatlascomplex2052 the 2nd timeline is still the same it's just in the future simply trunks came back and killed both the androids just didn't know cell excist so when he killed both in his timeline and killed cell so i guess only 2

[@chb2551]

They're right. There are only 3 timelines. Timeline 1: main timeline we watch, that has been created due to Trunks and Cell coming to the past. Timeline 2: the timeline Trunks came from. Timeline 3: the timeline Cell came from. Though it may just be 2. Timeline 1: the main timeline we watch. Timeline 2: the timeline that both Trunks and Cell came from. Cell likely came from the same timeline Trunks did, just doing so after Trunks returned to it after helping to defeat the androids.

[@Miner49er201]

Typing this out at 25:11; Timeline Explanation Assistance Timeline #1 - Goku dies from a heart attack, "androids" (cyborgs) ruin the world. Timeline #2 - Trunks goes to the past, saves Goku, "androids" are defeated, Trunks returns to the future and kills the "androids" there, then gets killed by Cell. Timeline #3 (Current) - Cell kills Trunks after he kills the "androids", goes back in time, and here we are having to deal with Cell AND the "androids" simultaneously.

[@akshatnagarkar256]

Oh boy, this episode. I love how seriously TFS went with this special (heck, the humor felt kinda out of place when I first saw it)

[@Naucturna]

They did fantastic with that certain scene, out of the OG z it's my favorite non regular episode. As it's a special and not a movie..still like it more then the movies.

[@CKNebiere]

TL1: Trunks creates TL2, Cell kills him and creates TL3 TL2: Irrelevant TL3: Trunks creates TL4 TL4: Where the story happens

[@JunTekuTheEngima]

But that would only be 3 timelines unless you count each time future trunks goes back in time as a different timeline

[@diamonshade7484]

No cell is timeline 1, tl2 is trunks the 2nd time he came back and tl3 is main timeline

[@nilanjl]

Hman was correct. It created 3 timelines. The original that Trunks was from. Our mainline Timeline is the second one. Cell and Trunks are from the same timeline. When they are using the time machine, they are traveling between the same universe. Trunk creates a 3rd timeline when he went back in time before being killed by Cell because it created a timeline where he didn't go back and never became stronger than Cell. Timeline 1: Cell & Trunk's timeline. Cell is killed before time traveling. Timeline 2: The main story timeline Timeline 3: Cell and Trunk's timeline where Trunks only went back once and is killed by Cell, allowing Cell to come to the main timeline. Timeline's 1 and 3 are pretty much interchangeable since you can make the argument the original Timeline is whichever one Trunks went back to, and in his timeline, he killed Cell or vice versa.

[@alex.9398]

A ton of the music in this episode is from a show called Dr who. It's a show about time travel so it fits.

[@skylineg6618]

and Chrono Trigger, a game about time travel

[@Cratossama]

There’s 4 times lines The 1st timeline (Cell timeline) trunks defeated the androids by going in the past and was about tell the Z warriors he defeated the androids but gets his Time Machine high jacked by cell The 2nd (unseen) timeline Trunks shows up and gets device to stop androids in the 1st timeline before cell steals it The 3rd timeline the history of trunks timeline The 4th timeline the main timeline Trunk’s shows up in a timeline where Cell from timeline 1 is already underground

[@morgoth615]

There's 3 timelines. Trunks doesnt "create" timelines, he travels between them. This is why he hops into the same main Dbz timeline multiple times, and can go back to his own. 1: Trunks' timeline. Comes from here and goes back to kill the androids. 2: Cell's timeline, kills Trunks. This is most likely a different version of Trunks. If this Trunks had already time-traveled, then 2 options Option 1: The main Trunks' future is split into two possibilities, continuing Timeline 1 or being in Timeline 2. Option 2: Theres another Trunks and another Timeline 3 (DBZ timeline) where this Trunks saved that one. If this Trunks never time-traveled, then just Timeline 2, and its a different version of Trunks. 3: Main DBZ timeline, Trunks from timeline 1 comes to save the day. Theres no 4th timeline that we see in the show, its pretty clear. Option 2 for Timeline 2 implies 4+ timelines, but thats not what we see in the show

[@rkss9009]

There's 4 timelines. 1. The main timeline 2. Trunks' timeline 3. Cell's timeline 4. The timeline saved by the Trunks that was killed by Cell.

[@EskChan19]

There is officially 4 timelines in DBZ according to the official wiki: Everything starts with Cells timeline, where the androids appear, kill everyone, and so on. It's exactly like Trunks timeline. Trunks goes back to the past, saves Goku, they defeat Dr. Gero, find the blue prints to the androids and build the remote control to shut the androids off. Cell never appears, as such they never train for the Cell Games, never use the hyperbolic time chamber, timeline 2 Gohan never becomes a super saiyan and Trunks never becomes strong enough to defeat the androids or Cell. This is timeline 2. Then Trunks goes back to the future with the remote, and thus shuts the androids down in his timeline.But since he never trained with Vegeta in the hyperbolic time chamber he isn't as strong as "our" Future Trunks and thus stands no chance when Cell ambushes him and goes back in time. Cell going back in time creates a new split, where a new Trunks, who has been identical to timeline 1 Trunks until then, goes back in time to a timeline that is identical to timeline 2 until then, except this timeline now has a time traveling Cell in it which makes it split off into timeline 3, which is the main timeline we know, where the Cell games happen, everyone trains a lot more and becomes super strong, and Trunks returns to his timeline, now anticipating that Cell will ambush him and strong enough to solo the Cyborgs, Trunks kills Cell, preventing his timeline from becoming Timeline 1 which makes it split off into timeline 4. So in DBZ we have 4 timelines. Trunks timeline where Trunks returns and gets killed by Cell, Main timeline where first Trunks travels to, Main timeline where Trunks AND Cell travel to, and Trunks timeline where Trunks doesn't get killed by Cell. Of course all of that is pre-DBS Future Arc where a few more timelines are introduced.

[@In-The-Zone]

Cell also states that he would have received cells from Trunks when he killed Freeza but the system didn't collect them because it had enough Saiyan DNA. So that means in Cells timeline a Trunks went back, killed Freeza, and they still failed to destroy the Androids initially which would make sense if all they had was the preparations they did 3 years beforehand. This could mean however they manage to find the blueprints and make the remote which is how he ended up destroying them in Cell's timeline and why they still made the time machine again.

[@haku8135]

There's supposed to be infinite timelines. Trunks going back and creating a branching timeline by altering the past means this universe operates on a multiversal model separated by time divergences. Any other action while time traveling would mean a different multiversal model and would effect Trunk's present. Since his present is unaffected that means he created a branch in the timeline, which means every crossroads creates a branch in the timeline, otherwise the entire universe operates exclusively on Trunks doing things to diverge the timeline rather than the uncertainty principle. Which makes no sense. Much like all of DBZ, actually. So in other words, Toriyama just didn't know how time travel worked in this model and did what he wanted without thinking about anything like he does with all his writing.

[@OMGitisGuy]

There are four timelines. 1: the 'original' timeline from where a Trunks travels to timeline 2, saves Goku and helps them beat the androids, comes back to beat his own androids in timeline 1, then dies to the Cell we see in the 'main' timeline. 'Our' Cell comes from this one. 2: a timeline created by Trunks 1's time jump. This one is not mentioned, but must logically exist and cannot have had a 'future' Cell, otherwise Cell 1 would not have been able to surprise Trunks 1 and steal his time machine. 3: a timeline split off from the 'original' timeline 1 due to Cell 1 outing himself to Trunks 3 in timeline 4, from where a Trunks travels to the 'main' timeline 4. 'Our' Trunks comes from this one. 4: the 'main' timeline, split off from timeline 2 by Cell 1 when he travelled back a year earlier than Trunks, setting in motion the events we see in the main series. 'History of Trunks' probably happened in both timelines 1 and 3, as the most likely point of divergence is Trunks' first jump (or rather his experiences in the past) which only happens at the end of it. Goku dies of heart failure in 1 and 3, and is saved in 2 and 4.

[@leorojas6390]

2:46 It's funny that Daft Punk exists in the future and not Country music lol. R.I.P to them.

[@Geth-Who]

Fully deserved in both cases, though.

[@phantomstarlight1366]

Yes, there is 4 timelines. OG timeline, trunks goes back in time (creating the 2nd timeline), helps defeat the androids, comes back to his own timeline and gets killed by cell who goes back to before trunks arrived and creates the 3rd timeline and the one we follow. The Trunks that arrives to this timeline learns about cell, goes back to his own timeline which becomes timeline 4 (the one where trunks knows and then kills cell) OG timeline is a devastated world, but with cell having left for the past and no cyborgs. Secondary timeline likely is ruled by cell, as the cyborgs were weaker without cell going back in time, so the warriors probably wouldn't have been able to kill him. Tertiary timeline is the one we follow Quaternary timeline has trunks defeat the cyborgs and kill cell.

[@rocketsurgegaming9811]

Vegeta screaming in the background at 18:57

[@thelittlebosniaexperience8181]

Wait are these four guys friends? The dude in the top corner is always shitting on the guy on the bottom.

[@VDiddy5000]

Timeline 1: the timeline “our” Cell is from. Trunks went back to the past and figured out how to defeat the Cyborgs, but apparently not through strength, as he died when Imperfect Cell decided he needed Trunks’ Time Machine to get to Timeline 4. Possibly got the plans from the past, and built the detonator to kill them in the future. Timeline 2: the “Unseen Timeline” that the first Trunks went back to Timeline 3: our Trunks comes from this timeline Timeline 4: the timeline we’ve been watching

[@dylangerig4915]

I appreciate you guys working through the 4 timelines of DBZ all on your own without seeing anyone explain the whole thing. Good on you guys.

[@EditDeath]

*5 minutes into multiverse theory debate* Huh. So this is what an aneurysm feels like

[@AbstractTigerProductions]

I've loved the inclusion of the Doctor Who music in this special since I first saw it. The use of Murray Gold's "Doomsday", from the second series finale way back in 2006, really matches Trunks finding dead Gohan... despite the silliness, that scene always pulls on the ol' heart strings...

[@MrANTIeggman]

I'm gunna be that guy and say there are 4 times lines. The unseen timeline is the one trunks was going back to before cell killed him. So timeline 1: trunks 2: main timeline 3: cells timeline 4: the timeline trunks was going back to before cell killed him

[@Patrick-jd1ku]

the music when Trunks finds Gohan's body and finally goes super saiayn is "Doomsday" from Doctor Who season 2

[@Excalibur250]

There are 3 timelines because its the Toriyama paradox lol

[@CaptainRandus]

When the "3 years Later" Scene happened you can hear Vegeta's scream from the abridged namek saga when Gohan thwarts his play. Love the sublety!

[@nm2358]

There should be 4 timelines, but there are 3 timelines. The only rational for why there's only 3 timelines is that Trunk's time machine always goes back to the main continuity timeline, and it does so for no logical reason. Original Timeline / Trunk's Timeline is supposed to result in Trunks finding the blueprints to the detonator for 17 & 18, which he uses to kill them, resulting in Cell killing OT Trunks and stealing hid Time Machine to go back in time. When Cell arrives he runs into OT Trunk during his 2nd visit to the past when he finds Gero's blueprints for 17 & 18, but Cell's existence forces OT Trunks to make an assortment of choices that prevent the OT Timeline from existing as it did. Now, why Trunk's time machine ends up in the SAME main continuity over and over is where the BS occurs.

[@TAGfrost]

The reason Goku was dead *"For Good"* was because the Dragon Balls can't revive you if you die of Disease or Natural Causes.

[@TnT_F0X]

11:41 Goku breaks a bean in half for Krillin/Gohan once. It healed them and kept them from dying... but didn't 100% heal like a full one. So... it probably wouldn't have healed Gohan's arm unless it was a full one.

[@lilbitlost6257]

I’m really upset they didn’t talk about vegeta screaming in the back when he broke the fabric of space back on namek 😭😭😭💀

[@CircuitReborn]

Im gonna do the timeline thing Original timeline Good Timeline Cell kills trunks timeline Good timeline makes a another split when Cell goes back in time. Is that all of Zamasus time rings? They had a literal box in super to show us time splits.

[@KaiserKai16]

About the timelines, there are at least 4, possibly 5 in play. Timeline 1 - History of Trunks where Trunks goes back in time to Timeline 2 Timeline 2 - Main Timeline where Trunks gives Goku the medicine Timeline 3 - Cell kills Trunks to steal his time machine; however, it is said in DBZA that Cell killed Trunks after Trunks had saved Timeline 3 from the androids when he came back to his present, meaning there is another timeline where Timeline 3 Trunks goes into in order to save that timeline and become stronger to beat his androids. Timeline 4 - A timeline we never see. The timeline where Trunks gives Goku the medicine, wins against the androids but no Cell. This Trunks then goes back into Timeline 3 and gets killed by Cell. There might be a fifth timeline based on how Timeline 2 works. When Cell from Timeline 3 entered Timeline 2, did the timeline remain as one, or did it split into two timelines? One where Cell appears and one where he doesn't? In other words, was Timeline 2 always meant to have Cell show up, or did Cell's arrival cause a deviation?

[@elyisusking3603]

Spoilers for DBS: there's 7 total timelines currently, but in DBZ originally it was four: 1. Universe 12 time traveler timeline (supposedly the very first timeline - Created by DBS) 2. Cell timeline (Trunks is killed by Cell - Created by DBZ) 3. Unseen Timeline (the timeline saved by the Trunks who was killed by Cell - Created by DBZ) 4. Goku Black Timeline (all the events in Cell and Majin Buu saga happened, originally was the main timeline but Zamasu steals Goku's body - Created by DBZ) 5. Future Trunks timeline (Trunks returns and kills the Androids and Cell, but Goku Black attacked - Created by DBZ) 6. Main Timeline (the main timeline currently in DBS, Zamasu is erased by Beerus - Created by DBS) 7. Two Trunks and Mai (alternative timeline created at the end of Goku Black saga to save Trunks world from being destroyed by Zamasu - Created by DBS)

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

​@@elyisusking3603and those are displayed by the time rings in super correct? That's why there are so many. Since the other universes know better by comparison. And universe 7 is watched by kindergarten kai who doesn't know anything.

[@elyisusking3603]

@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 yes, last time we saw the time rings, it had 6 of them (meaning 6 timelines) however this was before Trunks and Mai created the seventh timeline

[@Elzzaw]

Everyone always forgets the myriad of timelines Trunks has created by going back to his own timeline with his new training. His future timeline creates new branches too since without going into the past he wouldn't have been able to change his original future. Easiest way to explain it is each time someone travels through time and does anything they've created a new timeline, back and forth.

[@ericespelien8326]

There is a 4th timeline because that trunks got back from a different timeline where he saved Goku and killed the androids where cell wasn't there

[@ericespelien8326]

And in DBS were shown 5 time rings and one was caused by berus killing zamasu and the other 4 were from trunks

[@FrogArmy1]

Timelines. You have the technical main timeline (Goku lives only main because it's what we follow), Trunk's where he goes back which the first time he helps defeat only the androids (This is the one Cell kills Trunks in to get said Time Machine), and finally we have the Trunks timeline we watched in the special (Yes there is the timeline before Cell goes back we just don't see anything about it)

[@guilhermeissaRbbr]

the timiline discussion goes as follows, Trunks 1 goes back to the past, defeats the cyborgs in the past, goes to the future, defeats future Cyborgs, dies to cell, this cell goes to prime timeline (the one we are watching), than trunks 2 goes back to the past and is now on the prime timeline, so there is Trunks 1 timeline, Trunks 1 past timeline, Trunks 2 timeline and the Prime Timeline

[@BeastofBourdon]

I remember before this came out there were a bunch of teaser clips, one where the androids went to an amusement park and only spoke like robots, saying things like "executing fun.exe" "a critical error has occurred" and another where one arm gohan knocks out trunks and says "mission accomplished" in a robot voice as the terminator theme plays. Now those clips seem to have been erased from existence and I'm sad about that 🤷‍♂

[@HBstudios2005]

If anyone is wondering the song at the end when it shows ssj Trunks for the first time it's doomsday from Doctor Who

[@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902]

5:49 Somewhere in the internet there's the scene of Bulma and Gohan in this future making out. Gohan uses the Masenko.

[@bencrispe9562]

You probably don't know this, but that music that was playing when Trunks found Gohan's dead body was from a British sci-fi series called "Doctor Who".

[@nycstreetpoet]

The Superworld music is from Chrono Trigger, the Guardia Millennium Fair. *Side-note* : why couldn’t Bulma design a cybernetic arm for Gohan?

[@Kuen115]

To explain the timelines, there are actually 4 1: This future timeline where future trunks comes from 2: The present timeline from the show where Future Trunks(1) and Cell(3) show up 3: The future timeline where Future Trunks(3) dies by the hands of Cell(3) who then goes back in time to timeline 2 4: The present timeline that Future Trunks(3) saved with Goku&Co(4) [Cell never showed up]

[@PrinceTrexus]

Fun fact: the sad music that plays when Trunks finds Gohan's body is "Doomsday" from Doctor Who

[@ControlledChaos150]

There are 4 time lines, 1: Trunks' time when the cyborgs killed the z fighters and Gohan, 2: The z fighters get a heads up about the androids and Goku does not die but Cell does not appear (but is also not killeddue to no one knowinghe exists yet), 3:Trunks succeeded in his mission (which is time line 2) and killed the cyborgs in which case years later Cell kills him and uses the time machine (which causes it to be a new time line),and finally 4:The time line we see throughout the show androids show up, Goku does not die, Cell shows up and so on. Keep in mind what happens with Trunks and Cell in round 2 happens in time line 1.

[@ControlledChaos150]

Forgot to to mention Boom brings up a good point in that every use of the time machine could create a new line however it depends on a lot of factors including if the machine goes to a new time line or if it locks the time line it came from and returns to said time line, if it is the former there are roughly 7 to 8 time lines but if it is the latter then it is only the 4 stated before.

[@LuisGustavoSO]

​@@ControlledChaos150if messing with time creates a new time-line in the first place (like Trunks' first time travel), then it wouldn't make any sense to not create a new one again in different occasions (like when Trunks returns 3 years later). There's way more time-lines then the fans think there are, but they aren't relevant to the plot.

[@NinjaTyler]

​@@LuisGustavoSOthanks to super we know there's 7 officially with the first 4 in dbz and the 3 in super thanks to the timerings

[@julianmasciocchi6348]

There’s 3 timelines at work that’ve been talked about. Trunks’ timeline (1), main story timeline (2), and the timeline that Cell came from (3). When trunks goes back to timeline 1 it doesn’t make another one, he essentially returns to his origin point.

[@BrunoRafaBR]

Dragon Ball Z Timelines: Past: P0) Original timeline as show on this special. Goku dies of heart disease, Androids kill everyone. Technically doesn't count as one, since it splits to F1 or F2. P1) After Trunks first travel (in the multiverse), he saves Goku, learn how to defeat the Androids, never met Cell and goes back to F1. P2) Cell arrived first and hides for 4 years, Trunks arrived 1 year after Cell > Main timeline of the Z TV Show > After defeating Cell, Trunks goes back to F2 Future: F1) P0 Happened > Trunks goes to the past for the first time (in the multiverse) and creates P1 > After getting back from P1, Trunks defeats the Androids but is killed by Cell who creates P2. F2) P0 Happened > Trunks goes to the past another time (in the multiverse) and creates P2 > After getting back from P2, Trunks defeats the androids and Cell Now to make things worse, Dragon Ball Super Timelines: U12) Unkown Timeline create by someone from universe 12, when something drastic never explained occurred. Not related to the show. Past: P2) Goku meets Zamasu > Zamasu kills Gowasu > With Dragonballs takes Goku Body and becomes Black > Goes to F2 with the Time Ring P3) Trunks arrives > Goku meets Zamasu > Zamasu is caught trying to kill Gowasu and is destroyed by Bills > Super TV Show Past timeline > Whis sends Trunks and Mai to F3 Future: F2) Goku Black kills Gowasu > Alliance between Black and Future Zamasu > With Dragonballs Future Zamasu attains immortality > Super TV Shows Future > Trunks goes back and creates P3. F3) Timeline created by Whis after F2 is destroyed by Zeno. There are 2 Trunks and 2 Mais in this timeline. That makes the count 4 just on the Android Saga, and 7 with Future Saga from Super. In Super there are 6 Time rings, but the timeline F3 is created after the 6 rings where show, so it makes sense that one ring is unaccounted for, you could argue that Zeno destroying F2 destroyed the ring as well, making it 6 again.

[@liamwarner5749]

I believe there's at least 7 timelines as each arrival point creates a new timeline (not sure about departure). So you have the original timeline 1 where Trunks who died came from. He goes back in time, warns everyone and creates timeline 2 (The warning timeline). He then goes back a second time to become strong enough to beat the androids creating timeline 3 the Happy, Happy timeline which splits off from the warning timeline that continues following the path where he never arrived a second time. At this point Cell goes back before his first trip creating timeline 3 the nom, nom timeline . The Trunks we see then arrives in Nom Nom timline creating a new branch off that warning 2. He then goes back a second time creating the canon DBZ timeline. Then he comes back and creates yet another timeline the cells ambush goes wrong one. Giving us Original timeline (1), Warning 1 Timeline (2), Happy, happy timeline (3), Nom Nom timeline (4), Warning 2 timeline (5), DBZ Canon timeline (6) and Cells Ambush fails timeline (7).

[@Babylauncher3000]

Splitting Senzu beans does actually work and it does heal to 100%. It’s just not done very often in the series for dramatic effect and artificial tension.

[@quartz97]

4 timelines. Two future, two past. Future A - Trunks A goes back in time, creates Past A, fights the Androids, returns to Future A, dies to Cell A. - Cell A uses Trunks A's time machine to go to Past B in search of Androids. Future B - Trunks B goes back in time, create Past B, fights the androids, fights Cell A, returns to Future B, kills Cell B. Past A - Unknown. Presumably intact. Past B - Main series timeline. Cell A travels to absorb the Androids, Trunks B travels back to warn them of the Androids.

[@sharpen193]

23:11 blankets are propped like that so it doesn't touch and hurt the skin of a patient while giving warmth

[@jayjaydeth]

Okay, here's how it works. Each of the boats has a bomb that will explode, UNLESS the people on one boat blow up the other boat.

[@myrkrormr]

the music playing at the amusement park is the Fair music from Crono Trigger

[@CaptainRandus]

Love the fly up call back to Piccolo training Gohan

[@Spikero2]

0:16 "Your dad is dead. FOR GOOD!" Translation: Goku died of a heart attack, which is a natural death. Shenron can't revive him from that. Even so, he was killed back when he and Piccolo fought Raditz, so he can't be brought back by Shenron a second time.

[@templeofthesmilingjackalop9860]

No that's not Stardew Valley music at the amusement park, it's the Millennial Fair theme from Chrono Trigger.

[@procow2274]

Just realized the implications of bulma saying don't ask where they get the protein

[@jlorreno]

To simply put it there are 4 timelines. In a simplified order it goes like this: 1) The timeline Cell is from 2) The past timeline the Trunk Cell killed went back to (This past never found out about Cell in Gero's secret lab) 3) The timeline of the trunks' who travels back to the main timeline (this timeline's trunks knows about Cell and kills him, instead of being killed) 4) The main timeline This is just for Z, Super complicates this cuz of Zamasu

[@Razgriz85]

There's a timeline where they made the scene of Bulma hitting on Gohan even more uncomfortable, and it was animated for one of their videos talking about behind the scenes stuff, like editing.

[@stormageddon2223]

You probably already figured it out, but the music at the theme park was the Millennium Fair theme from Chrono Trigger.

[@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902]

When Krilling is getting killed by 17 and 18, he's complementing 18 just to get shot in the eyes. I always had a mandela effect with that scene and another. When Krillin asked Trunks if he thought 18 was cute, I always thought the moment of Krilling getting his eyes fried played before Trunks answered no.

[@Chunkyloops]

Tfs have mastered the art of akward conversation and interaction

[@SuikodenGR]

There IS a video out there about Future Gohan Resurrected after 32 years since the Android appeared and able to defeat both the Androids and Perfect Cell. He reunites with his mom and almost everyone who died were revived 😇

[@lucasinazumai9873]

From how I understand the multiverse theory in Dbza, Trunks in this special is from Timeline 1 which is the same as when he first appeared in Episode 32 against Metal Freeza. The timeline Trunks goes to is Timeline 2 which has baby Trunks. Spoilers for later episodes below. Trunks(TL 1) successfully warned and defeated both Androids 17 and 18 and went back to his timeline, eventually killed by Cell who used his time machine to go to Timeline 2. And then Timeline 3 happened when Trunks once again went back to the past 3 years after her warned Goku about 17 and 18 along with his heart condition. In other words, this Trunks is from Timeline 1 while the Trunks we see in the main series is from Timeline 3 since Cell did mention that Trunks was successful in Timeline 1 to Trunks(TL 3). But as we all know, multiverse theory's a bitch.

[@Naucturna]

I find it interesting in trunks time line the androids were weaker so I wonder how the z fighters would have done against them versus what we got.

[@EskChan19]

Yes, TL1 Trunks goes back to the past TL2, where they get the remote made, Trunks takes that remote back to TL1 where he shuts doswn the androids, but since the Cell games never happened in TL2, Trunks never trained in the hyperbolic time chamber so wasn't strong enough to defeat his own Cell. Cell kills him, and goes back to when Trunks goes to TL2, but since TL2 didn't have a time traveling Cell in it, TL2 splits off into TL3, which is our main timeline that we know, where the Cell games happen, Krillin destroys the remote, but Trunks becomes strong enough to defeat the Androids by himself and also strong enough to defeat first form Cell, who he is now warned off. So when this Trunks goes back to TL1, when Cell appears Trunks is strong enough to kill Cell, which makes TL1 split off into TL4, where Trunks was not killed by Cell. So TL3 is the main timeline we follow, while TL4 is the "main future Trunks timeline" with the Future Trunks we know.

[@sheogorath6834]

@@Naucturna Trunks says that, but he never saw his timeline androids at full power, so it's probably not even true.

[@Naucturna]

@sheogorath6834 That is head cannon sir, Future gohan at full power was enough to take a single android in the end or damn near. Trunks says for a fact the cannon main timline androids are stronger.

[@chazo1367]

@@sheogorath6834 since Future Gohan could match a single android in one on one combat and the others couldn’t I think the future ones are weaker. 17 makes short work of everyone trying to interfere in the fight between 18 and Vegeta on his own. Future 17 couldn’t hold his own very well and 18 had to jump in to assist him.

[@richi202]

Ok to help explain the timeline problem we can frame it like this: the timeline mainly in this episode is timeline 1 he goes back in time to timeline 2 and then a cell from a seperate timeline 3 also travels back in time to timeline 2 It does not make a new timeline every time you time travel all timelines already exist each time they travel they just visit a different one This is very confusing

[@qtippz]

There are 4 timelines. 1.) Main timeline. 2.) Trunk's Timeline 3.) Cell's Timeline 4.) Unseen timeline - The Main timeline is the timeline that we are watching right now playing out. - Trunk's timeline is explained in this 'History of Trunks' movie. When he goes back in time, he goes back to the **MAIN** timeline. - Cell comes from another timeline where the Trunk's in that timeline actually "wins" and defeats/disables the androids in this timeline AND the **UNSEEN** timeline. When Trunks in this timeline defeated/disabled the androids, he was about to go back in time to celebrate with everybody in the **UNSEEN** timeline. But he was killed and got his time machine stolen by Cell where he went back in time to the **MAIN** timeline a few years before The Trunks we know shows up and fights Frieza etc. - The Unseen timeline is where everything worked out how it was suppose to. Trunks from the Cell timeline shows up, Tells everybody about the androids, they prepare for them, and ultimately defeat them.

[@DanteRedgrave-6492]

6:42 in case people didn’t catch it. This is a reference to when Gohan was being trained by Piccolo.

[@actionturnip395]

This seems like the ONLY special other than Bardock which is unambiguously cannon and doesn’t have any glaring inconsistencies with the show.

[@pfredflyer]

The music from trunks seeing gohan dead and going super saiyan is from Doctor Who believe it or not. Or a cover of it. Either way pretty solid