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[@rosesb2730]

Early Modern British Historian here! Fun fact! William Caxton (guy who brought the printing press to England in 1473) had a problem: each area of England spoke in different dialects. He wrote of a situation he once saw, where a southern woman was trying to buy eggs from a northern merchant, and they each couldn't tell what the other wanted, because they had different words for eggs, "eggys/egges" or "eryen". When printing books in vernacular English, he won’t be able to please everyone, so he stuck with London dialect, because that's where he lived and sold books. Therefore, he chose "egges" over "eyren". Since most publishing at the time was done in London, that's the dialect that stuck the most. So, eggs helped standardize the English language!

[@ItsJustLisa]

Jen Draper did a video short about exactly this! Such a cool history fact.

[@Jaxar20]

Thanks that's a nice bit of context for this episode.

[@Kellykins1]

Wow that is so interesting. I love finding out how words came to be. ❤

[@aleclego]

Another fun fact - Thorn (th) stopped being used as a letter after the Germans invented the printing press and German didn't have a thorn letter. The letter Y kind of looks like thorn so Y was substituted for it and that's where you get Ye Olde English. Its always been pronounced The instead of Yee.

[@FoldingFlowers]

Yes, 'ye oldey english' as its said drives me mad as the e on old wouldnt have been pronounced either!

[@jeffreyisaac8479]

Hear ye here ye Here the here the

[@parsnip1]

Is that why singular second person “thou” became “you” (previously just the plural)?

[@DarkThunderism]

@@parsnip1 Yep, in most cases, while others still lag behind to this day. Their, being an example of a modern thorn word, where instead of it becoming yeir or something, it just stayed as a th.

[@gwest3644]

​​​@@parsnip1No, it was just because "you" was used as the formal form of "thou" due to French influence (like "tu" vs "vous"), and then the formal became the default over time. It's also why so many verb forms became outdated, because the single second person just got completely removed ("thou hast" vs "you have"). If you look at other Germanic languages, those archaic forms are pretty similar to the ones those languages use (like German "du hast" vs "ihr habt"). TL;DR, the French did it.

[@XMysticHerox]

You could try "Das Buch von guter Speise/Das Buoch von guoter Spise". It's a german medieval cooking book that has recipees titled things like "this is good" and "this is also good". There are english translations online though not sure you can get a physical copy with those.

[@Getpojke]

There are two physical version available, leather bound or paperback. Both supposedly have both German & English. I've never sprung for a copy as the online version is pretty good. Excellent book though.

[@robopecha]

that sounds interesting! i hope they try it!

[@Xinamon98]

"What would you like for dinner?" "This is good please." "Sounds good." 😂

[@Snowshowslow]

I think it would be hilarious to give them the German book and a dictionary 😂

[@darcieclements4880]

I love German humor sometimes and this sounds like a very good case of that. Masters of deadpan. Also very importantly Masters of giving names to emotions that do not have names consistently in other languages but everyone experiences.

[@l.n.4929]

I know you all laugh at Ben, but I think in this video it comes to show how much he really knows. I respect him very much for that.

[@pastaalalamborghini]

I don't think anyone's laughing at him for being incompetent... Bens skill set and being good at what he does is his biggest redeeming quality...

[@lorassorkin]

I really enjoy this format. Not just the cooking, but struggling with, then understanding the translation, discovering new ingredients and history all combined. Yes, I watch other food history channels, but this is new to you all, and it's fun to see even Ben learning new things!

[@SortedFood]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@Divig]

We also want you to do much more from that cookbook Ebbers!

[@SortedFood]

Glad to hear it 😀

[@robopecha]

@@SortedFood that and also those other international old cookbooks that people mention here in the comments!

[@jacthing1]

​@@SortedFoodyou should have them try to cook out of Apicius De re culinaria. See how they react to having to try to understand an ancient Roman cookbook

[@greteukulele4561]

Love how Ben's voice goes up an octave when he's upset 😃

[@SortedFood]

You noticed 😆

[@kitchenmom]

It always has. Some things never change.

[@Ubernaught012]

It's a pretty common thing, higher registers are typically easier to understand/hear. Which is why (partially) every voice assistant is female

[@andergrayraven3221]

It's super cool to see you guys using the Forme of Cury! Such an interesting cookbook to read through. There are an... interesting number of recipes based around almond milk in there. A couple of notes on the language used in it: 1. Ben calls this Old English at the beginning, but it's actually Middle English. Old English is the Germanic language predating the Norman invasions, while Middle English comes after with a lot of the French influence. This is actually incredibly readable by modern English speakers in comparison. 2. The strange f "s" sound isn't actually an f, and Middle English uses both symbols. The f symbol without the full bar is the "s" (which doesn't actually have a very consistent usage vs just an s) while the fully-barred one is still an "f" sound. Incredible video as always! I hope you guys come back to the book at some point!

[@christianseibold3369]

Yeah, people always use "Old English" for anything older than modern English, which does bother me a little bit. There's Old English, Middle English, Early-Modern English (aka. Elizabethan English or Shakespearean English), and Modern English. *Old English would be Beowulf, Middle English would be Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales (and the Wycliffe Bible Translation), and Elizabethan English is the King James Bible (as printed in 1611) and Shakespeare (in original spelling).*

[@philrobbie1670]

i love to point out to those insufferable people that claim that you cant call it milk if it doesnt come from a cow/goat/sheep etc, that almond milk was very well known and used in medieval times, far longer ago actually, but i feel like if it was served in English pubs 800 years ago its not some new far out concept dreamed up by the cuckoo lefties to poison your cornflakes.

[@manaownsmysoul]

I saw the words 'medieval cook book' and knew it HAD to be Forme of Cury! So excited!

[@SortedFood]

Have you cooked from this book before?

[@manaownsmysoul]

@@SortedFood I have cooked from both Forme of Cury and out of the De Re Coquinaria! Premodern cookery is an interest of mine

[@MildredCady]

It *could* have been Le Menagier de Paris... but the Forme of Cury was more likely.

[@liad3]

Max Miller has cooked from it more than once

[@shadodragonette]

I have seen it on a few historical cooking channels, so I was pretty sure I knew. I actually have a different cookbook (reprint, of course) that has similar writing, so I had an idea about the letters, but I DID learn quite a lot more from this video!

[@Duncan_Idaho_Potato]

I love these "old cookbook" episodes and can't get enough of them. This one was especially fun because of the language barrier... even though it's written in, er, English. Sort of.

[@HazelleMorrigan]

Yay! Watching the boys struggle with another cook book! Just what I needed mid week! Missed chance to make them dress up in old English outfits 😂

[@SortedFood]

Ahhhhh what a missed opportunity!

[@bonnielee78]

@@SortedFood next time maybe !?!

[@JimBob-qc2ed]

I really wish they wouldn’t correct them in these videos when they make a misstep. I want to see what they come up with in the end and then compare it to one someone has made to be proper, like in the older versions of these videos. Those used to be my favourite, but now it feels like a lesson. Like “I think they nailed it,” of course they did. They were told every time they might be getting slightly off track 😅

[@jacthing1]

​@@SortedFooddid Max miller suggest this book out of curiosity? I know he really likes it

[@sirBrouwer]

Or just ask James to be on this in with only a apron. That is the real The form of Cury

[@Phished123]

You guys are 100 percent spot on! the etymology of "seethe" is indeed the old English cooking word. In fact, Seethe does just mean "to boil" but its used more now as an expression of emotion. Has the same Proto-Germanic origins as the dutch word "zieden"

[@whiteshoos]

In German we still have the word "sieden", which is the state before boiling, when you can see bubbles forming in the bottom of the pot, but the water is not fully boiling yet.

[@laartje24]

Interesting, didn't know that that was where the Dutch word zieden came from. We now only still use it to indicate someone is very angry in Dutch, and don't use it for boiling anymore. Funnily enough, that does actually translate to English very well. "Hij was ziedend." "He was boiling with rage."

[@jackiebuttnor8410]

Seethe would actually be that point just before a liquid boils. Where there is movement but no breaking of the surface of the liquid.

[@blutexas]

Maybe the Bretons would have spoken Breton which is Celtic in origin. No matter, this was fun.

[@Phished123]

​@@blutexas these arent Breton recipes they are Anglo-Saxon recipes.

[@toni_go96]

All I can think while watching this is Ben must be amazing at logic puzzles, board games, and murder mystery games. You can see the cogs turning in his mind and how he very quickly processes information and puts together ideas...

[@robopecha]

yes! would be fun doing escape rooms with him!

[@karenpost710]

It would be fun to see the guys do an escape room!

[@robopecha]

@@karenpost710 nah, its something you have to do and not watch.

[@BSWVI]

​@@robopecha One could say that about cooking too but just look at us watching 😂

[@robopecha]

@@BSWVI i am really here for the facts. they usually never cook things that i would eat.

[@deanc8458]

The old cookbooks have always been my favourite format on the channel! Watching the lads think on their feet outside of strict timers or rules like Pass It On is something we don’t get too often

[@victorvanvolt8425]

For anyone wondering the restaurant is called Rozengrals and it's from Latvia.

[@LordDragox412]

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[@victorvanvolt8425]

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[@LordDragox412]

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[@alexbrown9351]

A trivial non-sequitur, but the final nail on the coffin for the use of the thorn letter was that early printing presses were largely made in Europe in places where there is no thorn letter, so the printing presses did not come with thorn letters for English printers to use. Rather boringly, some English printers instead represented the "th" sound using , well, the letters "th," which has now come to be the main way we spell the "th" sound (R.I.P. thorn). But some printers, trying to preserve the thorn, decided to substitute another letter from the set that came with the printing press that sort of looked like a thorn in the decorative gothic blackletter fonts that were used at the time, and which was a relatively unused letter in English (to avoid confusion). Which is why many old printed items spelled "The" (or, rather, "Þe") as "Ye" (but still pronounced "the" since the Y was just being used as a printed substitute for a thorn letter). And that is why we have the "Ye Olde Shoppe" cliché, which would have been pronounced "The Old Shop," anticlimactically. I said this was trivial, so I didn't mislead anyone.

[@lapatron555]

Thorn is still alive in Icelandic and Faroese because they did not get printing until much later

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

5:08 quote of the day by ebbers: It says BOIL not OIL! His voice cracked there. Barry's inability to read always brings funny moments😂😂😂😂

[@ButyoucancallmeKat]

Barry just had a baby! He’s probably so sleep deprived that reading is not his strongest skill at the moment lol

[@Przemro9]

@@ButyoucancallmeKat Nah he's always been a doughnut ;)

[@Drnaynay]

​@@Przemro9 Or maybe he legit has processing difficulties and some reading/learning disabilities, which they should be addressing and respecting, instead of making fun of!!

[@WesDuplantier203]

Side note: Is Barry going gray in the beard or was that just the lighting at the beginning?

[@ytnewhandlesystem42]

What read? The other two read out boil several times too. xD

[@CarlGorn]

As for old cookbooks, I'd like to recommend Eumsik-dimibang, or “Understanding the Taste of Food.” Believed to be the oldest Korean cookbook, it's also thought to be the first book written by a woman in all of Asia, as well as the first cookbook written in Hangul. In that script, its title is 음식디미방. Language Nerd Fact: The "ㅇ" in Hangul is always silent at the beginning of a syllable, but has the -ng sound when it's place at the end of a syllable. Thus, the syllable 옹 would be pronounced "ong." 🤓🇰🇷

[@raideurng2508]

I can hear Max snickering wildly from here.

[@melissalambert7615]

I thought if Max watched this it would have driven him crazy. Yelling at the screen it's ....!

[@harvestmoon_autumnsky]

Serve it forth!

[@hansbass8119]

I can hear the Hardtack *ClackClack* Dammit

[@bjdefilippo447]

@@harvestmoon_autumnsky My brain was saying that as well!

[@fionaclaphamhoward5876]

Yep. The boys out here proving that they're happy to have Max on their show, but they clearly don't watch his channel

[@Uncle_T]

There's a cookbook that's quite famous in Sweden called Cajsa Wargs kokbok / Cajsa Warg's cookbook (Actual name is "Hjelpreda I hushållningen för unga Fruentimber" / A help in the household for young women) from 1755 that would be interesting to see being used.

[@johanoskarsson8209]

I agree with Ben! MORE from this book please, it's amazing!

[@carololeary5929]

I’ve been reconstructing food from medieval cookbooks for nearly 50 years. The Forme of Cury is one of my favorites.

[@fah06]

That’s a pretty awesome thing to do !!

[@-Ezekiel-]

What's your favourite recipe from The Forme of Cury? I'm interested to know!

[@devcrom3]

r/thathappened

[@carololeary5929]

@@-Ezekiel- The one I make most often is probably the blank maunger, but we’re also very fond of chyches (the only vegan medieval recipe I know), macrows, and Chykens en hocchee.

[@carololeary5929]

@@fah06 It’s fun, too!

[@RavenVampirePrince]

Fun little factoid. Croydon was originally called Croindene meaning 'Valley of the Crocuses' or Saffron Valley after a type of crocus that grew in the area used for Saffron production.

[@EmmaAnimalWelfare]

😮 woah! I'm gonna steal that factoid and pass it on!

[@CatholicSatan]

"Eggys" and "Eyren" existed at the same time in England and one end of the country wouldn't understand the other. Indeed, William Caxton in 1490 wrote a preface to the English translation of the _Aeneid_ in which he complained about the fractured and diverse state of the language. He illustrated it with the use of "eggys" and "eyren" in which a housewife declared she didn't speak "frenshe". On top of that at the time, there was underway, the "big vowel shift" going on on the country where the long vowel sounds were all changing - which is why modern English spellings often don't reflect the pronunciation. So, for example back in the day, _mate_ would sound more like _marte,_ and _meat_ more like _mert,_ _boot_ more like _bout._ Interesting period and, for an English person travelling no more than a few tens of miles, could well end up in what sounded like a foreign country.

[@kilianortmann9979]

AFAIK Eyren ist the older word with saxon roots and as a German speaker, I can actually understand that word.

[@annaapple7452]

So the pronounciation shifted away from a more Dutch version it seems (but I know from videos on this topic that it is a little more complicated than that). The word eyren still remains in the Dutch "eieren", i.e. eggs. (1 egg is ei).

[@christianseibold3369]

@@annaapple7452 Both Dutch and Anglo-Saxon (English) descend from West Germanic languages, so it's not quite that English shifted away from Dutch, it's that English shifted from what was *West Germanic.* Modern dutch of course also changes from its West Germanic roots, like every other modern language.

[@davewildermuth7519]

English had fragmented into regional variations by that point. Old English (no longer in use) was more or less standardized.

[@fionaclaphamhoward5876]

Anybody else hearing "Eggys" in Dylan Hollis' voice? No? Just me?

[@intricateearthling8388]

5:10 That high pitch ''It says boiled, not oil. You're an idiot'' Was so heartfelt, they had barely started lmao

[@whyisthisrequired]

"That bit was in English, Barry!" lmao

[@Xcess91]

"As soon as you kinda got your head around how to read, it became actually relatively straight forward" Now that's a quote for people who say they can't cook anything.

[@samconboy459]

"I can picture a lot of spitroast" Thats NOT an image I needed

[@SortedFood]

SAME 😆

[@MrsHLecter]

​@@John-ed2wjwhen in doubt, use urban dictionary.

[@oldbutnotdead1]

The picture of half a cow roasting on a spit over a bed of coals...yum, yum, yum. I'd want the crispy bits around the edges.

[@Deadxman616]

​@John-ed2wj it slang for something naughty and nice

[@grythm]

​@@John-ed2wjYou'll find out when you're older, don't worry about it for now 😂

[@mu5h137]

Ben's innuendo's are the best. Especially when he doesn't realise

[@isabellapark6796]

please make another one of these! I love the Forme of Cury and old cookbooks like this.

[@AbbyLeaf101]

One of my friends wrote about the Forme of Cury for her udergrad thesis and bought some sample dishes to her dissertation defense! Which was very fun and made for some very interesting reactions.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Should have brought in Max again, he's done loads of stuff from the Forme of Cury! LOVE your collabs and your channels!

[@Uncle_Smidge]

I imagine he's giggling wildly at this episode.

[@EmmaAnimalWelfare]

I have a feeling that might be on the horizon...

[@happygrandma5637]

Just goes to show how much preparation Max does, and he does it on his own.

[@gailshaughnessey8914]

And - Max has been raving about long pepper for years.

[@CatullusBijOns]

In Belgium we have this cookbook called “Ons kookboek” or “our cookbook”. I think 6 in 10 Flemish households have it as it’s the staple of our Bourgondic lifestyle containing pretty much all recipes from our history. The book is published by the KVLV (Catholic Society of Farmers Wives). And people use it every day. I’ld be happy to ship you guys one. It is in Dutch though.

[@carpediem5232]

I guess seethe isn't used much in cooking any more, but you still have it in expressions like "I'm seething with anger".

[@Jelpie]

Ooooh😯... that's a nice catch

[@SearchingOblivion]

@@Jelpie they literally mention it in the video :D

[@carpediem5232]

​@@SearchingOblivion I wrote the comment when they were first discussing it. I didn't see that they had the same thought later on.

[@reginas.3491]

I can imagine that the German word "sieden" (means gently boiling) stems from this "seethe". So, when the pronounciation was explained, it was quite clear what it meant. Also the letter "f" that means "s" is the same in German Fracture lettering and in Sütterlin handwriting (I learned it as a child) It is called the "long S" and is used within words. The "normal" letter s was only used at the end of words and was called "Schluss-S" (end-S).

[@carpediem5232]

@@reginas.3491 Yes they both have the same root.

[@patriciapeart5752]

I love the recipes from ancient cook books. So many people think it is plain and bland cooking. Please do more of this. Also please write it out in English used today. I would love to recreate some old recipes. By the way, you need to make this a total weekend. Dressing up in the fashion of medieval times, cooking out of old cookbooks. Also make teams to compete with each other. Whoever comes the closest to the original recipes win. You could even throw in a few medieval games. Fun times for all.

[@woodrobin]

"It was the Bretons who best knew how to make use of the cow" -- Reminds me of an old saying about social strata in Old England (some of which carries over into word choices today): "The Saxon herds the cow; the Norman dines on the beef." The Saxons were usually the common folk, and would have been herding cattle often owned by their Norman conquerors, and "herd" and "cow" are Anglo-Saxon derived, while "dine" and "beef" (like the Normans) derive from France.

[@juliannetraven5168]

I'm so confused what they mean by Britons or Bretons, like the migration was the other way, the Celtic-speaking culture of Bretagne sprang from refugees from Great Britain after the Saxon invasions

[@MrNatWhilk]

Similarly, Pig->Pork Sheep->Mutton

[@morphman86]

Because of the way it is cooked, the pork could be pretty much any part of the pig. This dish would likely be a medieval royal version of a sausage, just taking care of the scrap pieces of the pig so there was no waste. I'm putting this cook book on my reading list right now!

[@Paldasan]

Well we know Max Miller has recently filmed with you guys, and this is a cookbook high on his list. Ann Reardon also pulls out the antique cook books on occasion. I'm all for it.

[@wontputmynamehere]

Fun episode! For Dutchies it wasn't a big puzzle what "ayren" meant: we still use the word "eieren" as a multiple of the word "ei". The pronunciation is roughly the same. It's interesting to see how languages mix and diverge again over time!

[@BoxMacLeod]

I've always liked these old recipe videos! It's equal parts entertaining from the recipe translations and fascinating/educational in terms of the ingredients, cooking methods, and end product! Would love to see more Medieval cooking!

[@tyunik]

This was fun to watch and learn! And the food looks delish and rather modern. Hope to see you explore a few more recipes from the book! 😄

[@kateh7484]

It’s a puzzle and a cooking challenge all in one 😂

[@SortedFood]

Fun all round 😆

[@ian3314]

These are so fun. Love the way the guys work it out, and the end dishes are so unique. Thanks everyone.

[@piggledinosaur]

As a medievalist, every time you called it Old English I wanted to have a cry… but then you’d say something really funny and I’d pull myself together and get over it 😂

[@selinesbeau]

What would it be called then?

[@piggledinosaur]

@@selinesbeau Middle English! Old English is far, far older and would be unreadable to anyone without a good dictionary

[@mrab4222]

Plus, the "f" isn't an "f", it's a "long s". "f" has a horizontal bar, "long s" doesn't.

[@mollymauktealeaf]

immediately started scrolling to see if anyone had commented on it

[@Yangager]

Question for you medievalist- I've been told that Old English reads fairly similar to German. Is this true?

[@Desanirain]

Please have more from that book! I loved seeing old dishes come back to life and some of the history tidbits you guys add in!

[@annika3085]

as a medievalist this made my heart so happy! thank you for this boys😂

[@elisem2962]

The images shown at the beginning is from a place called Rozengrals located in Old Town of Riga, Latvia. I literally had dinner there last week. It is amazing setting- food could be better though.

[@crimsontsunami92]

I love when you lads do this format, I love love love hearing about the foods of history and how they were prepared.

[@amyrcoombes86]

There is a company in the UK called The Copper Pot, they make lots of different historical food items. One of the most popular is the historical hot chocolates, the 18th century hot chocolate has cardamom and long pepper, it's delicious!

[@TheCardinalFang]

Thank you for that. Didn't know they existed. Just bought some garum from them ready for my next round of Max Miller cooking

[@UnicornPastelPrincess]

PLEASE do more from that book, I love seeing how people back in medieval times cooked.

[@brigideverson2229]

Please do more from this book! This was fantastic!

[@peternicol3439]

Finally, though it might be more fun with a James & Mike double team for this book.

[@toomanyopinions8353]

Would love to see more from this cookbook!

[@peterdeane4490]

Those actually looked and sounded pretty tasty. Peter and I have had for many years a book called "Pleyn Delit", Medieval Cookery for Modern Cooks, although we've never gotten around to cooking anything from it. It's by Constance B. Hieatt and Sharon Butler, and benefits from having the modern English translation after each recipe. The original recipes were from various sources.

[@johankrpl8606]

Yes! My absolute favorite videos on the channel currently. More of these please!

[@whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790]

Whoever chose Barry for this video, for us to laugh at, _thank you_ Only he could have confused boil with oil 😂

[@fionaclaphamhoward5876]

I wondered if he'd just gone a shade too medieval, as in "boil him in oil!" or the idea of yeeting boiling oil off the castle ramparts...?

[@whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790]

​@@fionaclaphamhoward5876 Hah, now that is some fun subconscious associations!

[@blu.dru_]

What an incredible bit of history! I learned so much from this video and would love a part 2! Maybe a dessert? Or that Mac-N-Cheese?😂

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Sorted! This seems like the perfect book for a collab with Max from tasting history! Please tell me he's coming back soon!😊😊😊❤❤

[@Nixx0912]

If I remember correctly he already used recipies from it.

[@nigelis2345]

@@Nixx0912 He has done quite a few recipes from the Form of Cury.

[@marshmallowman6663]

kzbin.infoUgkxK7q-CYbgEd07B4rYTo_rbAp3Fq4h9Qcc?si=mNbqCyvia0-qbKMe Your call has been answered 9 days ago ;)

[@Hybris51129]

He has used many recipes from the book and he did a community post not too long ago where he was in the studio with Ebbers so he might have had a hand with making this episode at least.

[@Steampunk_Kak]

@@Hybris51129 Professional medieval cookbook consultant LOL

[@iamarawn]

Y'all need to do way more of these recipes. This is awesome!

[@secretforreddit]

It's not exactly an f, it's actually what's called a "long s" and looks like ſ (so an f without the crossbar). It's kind of like the German eszett (ß).

[@mb4451]

Not just kind of. The eszett, as the name suggests is actually a ligature of ſ and z (ſz), or ſ and s in some typefaces (ſs = ß)

[@ukgroucho]

Brilliant. I know it's relatively contemporary but it would be nice to revive some of the old recipes from Mrs Beetons cookbook...

[@PokhrajRoy.]

15:58 WE NEED MORE RECIPES FROM THAT BOOK.

[@EmilySmirleGURPS]

Hear hear!

[@ollie6768]

i appreciate how the instructions were edited on the screen

[@r0ssderbyshire]

From the Title alone I know this is going to be a good one!

[@angelagoodyear8099]

oooh I love that you finially did something from this cook book. you should try the tart out of lent. I would love to see it done with the proper english cheese. the closest I can get is brie cheese. it is so yummy.

[@mikemassari1447]

Is it sad that my brain immediately jumped to Lord of the Rings when they mentioned foiles of sawge? Specifically, the scene where Aragorn sends Sam looking for athelas "Kingsfoile? Aye, that's a weed!"

[@BSWVI]

Not sad at all! Lateral connecting at its finest! (Cos I did too!)

[@juliannetraven5168]

'Feuille' is French for a leaf. We have plants like 'trefoil' which has three leaves

[@susan.connelly9955]

Love this! Please do more recipes from this book.

[@bakerbob533]

To remind people of the difficulties to import stuff in the 14th century. the easiest way to get stuff was by boat. italian olive oil, spanish saffron and french cheese. about 25-30 days going there without stopping, stuff a third full of olive oil, sail back toward spain, stuff another third with spices and other spanish stuff (sorry i'm not familiar with spanish 14th century economy). Last stop in France and then straight to london. all in all, about 3 months round trip. carrying in all around 200 tons, not counting crew food and water, it would be barely enough for every noble to taste it.

[@mb4451]

You greatly underestimate the amount of high and late medieval trade. The Poel cog, the wreck af a 1350s trading ship, had a carrying capacity of more than 200 metric tons. And that was one ship. Southhampton, which would have been the main, but by no means the only port engaging in the mediterranean trade in the 14th century, had hundreds of ships a year coming in

[@BigTpetty]

FINALLY!! BARRY is back!!!!! My wife and I missed you bro!

[@berelinde]

Ah, an old friend, the Forme of Cury. I did medieval reenactment for many years. Eyren is eggs. Very little spit roasting is involved.

[@knighteye33]

This was so cool to see! I'd love to see more recipes from this book!

[@toscirafanshaw9735]

Ben, that's not Old English, it's Middle English! I love this book, and I hope to see a lot more videos with a guys cooking from it. Amazing job on the pork balls today. :)

[@MSciore]

Thank you for saying this! When they said 1300s and Old English I was confused. Also, they’d NEVER be able to read and work out OE, it’s so incredibly different.

[@juliannetraven5168]

periodisation is a myth lol

[@sithllama]

I love these videos with ancient cookbooks and recipes, please do more!

[@NerdyMusicChef]

Oh hey, Barry’s back!

[@ButyoucancallmeKat]

I think he was on paternity leave!

[@NerdyMusicChef]

@@ButyoucancallmeKat I completely missed that they had another kid!

[@thechaosgoblin]

As a foodie and a writer, I absolutely love learning not just about the recipe and its history but also learning more about Middle English words in a food context ❤

[@brograb898]

This is not old English, it’s Middle English. Did you guys never read Chaucer, the father of English poetry?

[@nicktheanticlause1313]

Def want to see more from this book.

[@MetalHeadReacts]

Should have brought in Max Miller from tasting history again, he's done loads of stuff from the Forme of Cury.

[@SortedFood]

We have a video with him coming out very soon 😀

[@richbuilds_com]

I would like you to do a LOT more from that book. What a great episode!

[@SedraKotova-wb9ib]

You're a star, keep shining bright!

[@jessicairwin7952]

Love the old cookbooks, keep em coming boys! Thank you!

[@neya2965]

Really need Max Miller from Tasting History when you do this again. Maybe a cook off!

[@raideurng2508]

I think Max is responsible for this and he's probably enjoying every moment of it.

[@limeparticle]

Yes please to a Forme of Cury cook off! 🤩

[@robopecha]

its like a cooking riddle! how exciting! i love it! it would be amazing if this was a longer series and you cook the whole book. i would love to see all the dishes from that time. this one turned out to be really nice! i love fried sage!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Barry: “English is hard enough as it is.” Me, a polyglot: “You’re so real for that. Facts.”

[@susancampbell2112]

Yes please! Make more recipes from this and other old coobooks! Loved this!

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Guys! Please tell me that the 1914 Cookbook will make a comeback! It's amazing

[@Scynn]

This was amazing, need a few more from this book for sure like the other old cookbooks!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

1:08 Barry and his Hench Arms need lessons in history ‘Horrible Histories’ has a fun song for you to remember the English Kings and Queens.

[@virginiacardinal9563]

Ben absolutely took that book home! I would love to see more videos from this. And, that dish would be great finger food at a party nowadays.

[@EatWithRafy]

Love the content guys! I made a cooking channel not too long and hope it’ll grow as much as you guys have l! Keep up the great work

[@GOATED0846]

Your videos looking good! I’m sure it will! Stay consistent. I subscribed

[@EatWithRafy]

@@GOATED0846 thank you bro!

[@GOATED0846]

@@EatWithRafyno problem 🔥💪🏼

[@secretforreddit]

Dude your only videos are vacations, no cooking. What are you talking about?

[@EatWithRafy]

@@secretforreddit check the playlist lol or shorts …

[@RebekahNevaine]

omg I got to completely nerd out on that - more from that book please!

[@eurogael]

I love the ancient cookbooks vids and this is one even I can try.

[@Quuqqe]

I love to see Ben so excited😊 And Barry is the best sous chef!

[@StarryRuins]

I love when they cook from historical cook books! It combines two things I love food and history.

[@Calcprof]

The soft s is not actually an f, but is usually distinguished from it, by the short cross stroke, which doesn't extend on both left and right sides, as it does in the f. The soft (or long)s has a cross stroke that only goes to the left. (And in sone forms, has no cross stroke at all.)

[@venombeyond]

I thought Ben and Barry did amazing with this recipe, when they were done I was like "Oh my god... IT'S LIKE THE PICTURE!!" Also I'd LOVE to see more old world 14th Century recipes from this book too Ben! As for other cookbooks? A Fun one might be Baking Yesteryear by B. Dylan Hollis! Not trying to plug him (Though I adore him and his channel too) but he has a super awesome collection of old recipes himself, and a bunch HE either made his own versions of, OR, has tried to perfect due to the changes of time. Thank you guys for doing what you've been doing, for all these years. You've been apart of my household since the very start.

[@ObscuraDeCapra]

I love this old cookbook stuff. It's great to see how tastes have largely not changed... but also how massively they have.

[@Judokasting]

Well done lads and yes please more of this book.

[@sashasscribbles]

Would love more from this cookbook! Those meatballs looked awesome~

[@MachineGunTessa]

Amazing!! More from this book please!

[@Naktya7]

Love it when you do recipes from old books! I really hope this book comes back in another video