SOULBLIGHT GRAVELORDS Legion of Blood Guide

In this video I go over the Legion of Blood bloodline for the Soulblight Gravelords Age of Sigmar faction. I go over topics such as strengths and weaknesses of the bloodline, artefacts, command abilities, must have units and much more. Stick to the end (or skip to the end) for some sample lists and my opinion on a purchase guide to get started.
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[@staalforsfh]

New Legion of Blood character announced at the same time, what timing!

[@nopaintnogains948]

Very excited to see the full warscroll for the new hero. Sad it’s not a generic vamp cavalry hero (or generic hero in general). Soulblight is starting to look like Stormcast with the amount of named heroes we have and never use 😂 Might also do a video about possible kitbashing the model when I get a hold of it as I am not fully sold on its appearance

[@staalforsfh]

@@nopaintnogains948 It is seriously A JOKE at this point. I love the models for all of them, but everyone wishes we could get something else for a change!

[@lukebell7463]

Amazing video btw and a seriously underrated channel!!!

[@nopaintnogains948]

Thank you, I appreciate the comment. I am working on releasing a video on Vyrkos and Legion of Night soon.

[@thomasyaudas9355]

Great video and super helpful!

[@nopaintnogains948]

Glad you think so!

[@spartanpiplup6229]

Legion of blood is my favourite dynasty. I love that it's Deathrattle focused and puts alot of weight on vampire heroes. It's a shame that the army has so little customisation for vampires and aside from the trueblades, no vamp foot units. Wish it had some skeleton archers or a vamp archer hero, so I made my own anyway.

[@tylerhansen9521]

I'm just getting into AoS, really found myself liking soulblight. Your videos have been a Nagash send. I really like your format and info. Excited to see whats next. Kastelai?

[@nopaintnogains948]

Thanks for the comment! I’m slowly working on LoN and a video about the Regiments of Renown usable in Soulblight. Takes me a while due to work schedule to get things made, recorded, and edited but stick around. They are coming!

[@lukebell7463]

As a SBGL player who mainly plays vyrkos i would love to see your thoughts on that dynasty.

[@paavorahman8920]

Great video! Legion of night next?

[@nopaintnogains948]

Thank you! Working on finishing one for LoN and Vyrkos. I think the Vyrkos one might come out first.

[@Jesyce86]

Great video!

[@Cus27l]

Appreciate the video. Cheers

[@nopaintnogains948]

Thank you!

[@johnathang8568]

Hey new to the hobby! So you play Soulblight? I am interested if you can do this for the Flesh Eater Courts

[@anon_domini6603]

Super cool and helpful video! Was just wondering how you come up with your lists? As a new player, I don't have anyone to bounce list ideas off of, so I might not realize a glaring weakness.

[@nopaintnogains948]

I build my competitive lists by researching current meta not only in Soulblight but other factions as well. Looking at the current GHB and tactics and building around the completion of these tactics with the most point per performance optimal units (as well as what I find fun). I am happy to look over a list you are considering and give my feedback on it.

[@anon_domini6603]

@nopaintnogains948 Oh, thank you! I've yet to find a local community nearby, so I appreciate it. - Army Faction: Soulblight Gravelords - Army Type: Legion of Blood - Grand Strategy: Empire of Corpses - Triumph: Bloodthirsty LEADERS Neferata (410) - Spells: Waste Away Vengorian Lord (300) - General - Command Traits: Doomed Minions - Artefacts of Power: Cloak of Mists and Shadows - Spells: Flaming Weapon Vampire Lord (150) - Spells: Hoarfrost Necromancer (100) - Spells: Merciless Blizzard BATTLELINE Deathrattle Skeletons (220) - Skeleton Champion - Standard Bearer Deathrattle Skeletons (110) - Skeleton Champion - Standard Bearer Deathrattle Skeletons (110) OTHER Blood Knights (210) - Kastellan - Standard Bearer Grave Guard (160) - Seneschal - Standard Bearer - Hornblower - Great Wight Blade Blood Knights (210) - Kastellan - Standard Bearer TOTAL POINTS: 1980/2000 I bought the vanguard box alongside a skeleton box and really wanted to use blood knights because I think they're cool, lol. Instead of reinforced skeletons, I was considering 2 units of dire wolves as a screen for my blood knights, but didn't know if they would be a waste of 300 points.

[@nopaintnogains948]

@@anon_domini6603 Happy to help in any way I can. I highly recommend joining the AoS Coach Discord server. Great source of community feedback and knowledge. Regarding your list, I would personally drop the 10 Grave Guard as you normally want them in a block of 20 to really deal significant damage, at 10 I feel like the points can be better spent on a unit of Zombies or Dire Wolves. You could run the two units of Wolves with 2 base units of Skeletons or with one 20 block of Skeletons. The Wolves aren't a waste of 300 points, you want to use them to grab objectives and potentially die early so you can work towards your Grand Strategy. I would test out a few games with two list variations: 1. Make the Blood Knights a block of 10 and pair them with Nefy casting Dark Mist on them to make them a very tanky unit to remove. 2. A list with reinforced skeletons and one with two units of 10 with the wolves. Best way to know what works for you is to also play as many games as you can. That way you'll learn the units you like to play and how you like to play them. Hope this was helpful and try to get other peoples opinions too. I'm just one guy after all

[@anon_domini6603]

@nopaintnogains948 thank you! I went ahead and made two separate lists on the AoS app following your recommendations, and I joined that discord! You help make this hobby super welcoming for newcomers. You deserve more views and subscriptions

[@nopaintnogains948]

@@anon_domini6603 Hey thanks for the super kind words. I am by no means an expert and still mess up a ton. Just love the game, Soulblight, and hobby in general. If I can provide a small fraction of help to someone I am happy.

[@clarkcommando1983]

I’m new and excited to see what else you do I want grave guard lol

[@nopaintnogains948]

Welcome! Currently working on a similar video for Legion of Night and another quick painting video. The holidays might make it a bit rough to post but we shall see. Feel free to ask questions in the comments. I am always happy to help as much as I can.

[@TheBDU]

Hey I'm really glad you ended up making this followup to your last video, I think you've become my favorite SGBL youtuber. I'm still very new (waiting on some models to ship to complete my first army), can you please explain what gives the "ethereal 3+" that I keep hearing you mention?

[@nopaintnogains948]

Thank you so much for the kind words. Hearing that these videos can be helpful to the community really motivates me to keep producing more. The "ethereal" 3+ (using the word ethereal to relate to nighthaunt mechanic - just means the save cannot be modified either in a positive or negative fashion) can come from two sources: 1. The Cloak of Mists and Shadows artefact (usually given to VLoZd) 2. Neferata warscroll spell Dark Mist (which you can target a unit with - even herself) Looking forward to hearing more about your SBGL journey!

[@TheBDU]

​​@@nopaintnogains948Thanks a lot! One quick follow-up, I noticed you never picked the sword for the VLoZD. Is it bad or is the opportunity cost just not worth it?

[@nopaintnogains948]

@@TheBDU The standard choice is the lance because it offers -3 rend -3 damage on the charge. The sword doesn't get these bonuses, it just sits at -1 rend 2 damage always. With LoB Unparalleled Expertise battle trait it would be 4 attacks, 3+ to hit, 3+ to wound, -3 rend, 3 damage on a charge (potential 2+ to hit and wound if you finest hour and all out attack). Can be very scary for your opponent.

[@TheBDU]

@@nopaintnogains948 Thanks for taking the time to respond. Looking forward to the next vid

[@TheBDU]

@@nopaintnogains948 One last question if it's ok, about to put together my final army for Friday. I ended up putting together something similar to your standard list, but I want to replace the grave guardx1 and lord on foot with a 2nd VLoZD. Would that serve the same purpose as a hammer or am I going to run into trouble in a more competitive game. I don't have the experience to really know yet and don't want to drop money on another dragon if I won't use it. I get that it will make battalions sloppy but not sure if that matters so much.

[@bobbyg8474]

This is the second video I’ve seen that says Black Knights impact effect, but it is not in the battle tome or errata’s that I can see - can someone please tell me what I am missing? Edit: Apparently I was sold an old battle tome?? No where seems to list editions online 😕

[@nopaintnogains948]

I was about to say that you might have picked up the second edition battle tome. I am sorry to hear that happened to you. The way their ability works is that after the charge you pick 1 enemy unit within 1" of this unit. You roll 2 dice for each model black knight model, on 5+ the target suffers 1 mortal wound. You do not need to have the entire black knight unit within 1" just at least 1 knight model

[@Broken_But_Not_Broke]

Also, for those lore concerned folks like myself. The Vampires in the Legion of Blood shy away from Zombies. (They think they are gross) and much prefer skeletal units…

[@justinterrell7020]

Personally Im not always gonna use Neffy, Im a very 'Your Dudes" style of player, but definitely am gonna at least get her at some point. I just like the old lore of the bloodline and the general emphasis on skellies and vampires. Also I definitely want a Wight King on Steed, that new update really sold me in the end on the army! And I love Black Knights and making their charge better. Eventually I want to build sort of down the middle, fun and thematic but also able to win decently consistently. Units I wish to include: -VLoZD, I got the kit lying around and it would be a great centerpiece. -Grave Guard, honestly one of the reasons Ive been delaying starting building is because I heard the horror stories of constructing these guys, but can't not have access to them -Deathrattle, rank and file, newer sculpts, look great. -Black Knights, kinda wanna try that one gimmicky list that runs a bunch of them and covers the board but not sure if I should -Wight King on Steed, the model that ended up selling me on the faction in the end

[@nopaintnogains948]

While I am a Nefy fanboy for sure, I understand not wanting to bring her. VLoZD really makes LoB worthwhile with the Cloak artefact. The WKoS and Black Knights combo can be pretty spicy if you run a brick of 10 and get that charge of (20 dice, mortals on 4+......very nice). Im not to sure about a Black Knight spam list tho. I think the most I would do would be 10-15. I would probably try something like: VLoZD - General - Cloak of Mist and Shadows - Doomed Minions Wight King on Skeletal Steed - Amulet of Screams (for the memes) Vampire Lord - Hoarfrost Vampire Lord - Blizzard Black Knights x1 Skeletons x1 Skeletons x1 Grave Guard x1 Could Swap the second Vampire Lord for Wight King on Foot to support GG and give exploding 6s but I like the extra spell cast option.

[@justinterrell7020]

@@nopaintnogains948 I saw a list win earlier this year I think before the points spike of Neffy, VLoZD and the rest were Black Knights. Maybe a Wight King. I liked the idea of it, it had like 2 bricks of 10 and the rest were MSU. The idea of full undead cavalry with a big monster hero ripping things apart was fun. But I think Neffy was probably integral to that list working. That, and I don’t know the extra rules or context for that event. I can totally be sold on a brick of 10 and a King though, thats kind A good screen with a good charge. Though I thought Grave Guard were best in bricks of 20? I am glad this faction makes the VlLoZD work, I wanted one of the beasts to pull weight as an army centerpiece, and a Cloak wearing VLoZD kinda reminds me of the Ghoul King on Terrorgheist in that sense. But with a better save and better healing and more consistent rider damage, in exchange for the mortal wound fishing with mount trait. Is there anyway to worm in 5 more knights to your current list you just showed? Im glad Im not going all Knights because that means Id have other skeletons collecting dust when I make the army.

[@nopaintnogains948]

@@justinterrell7020 You are correct Grave Guard work best in a brick of 20 ( the x1 next to the names indicates one reinforcement so its 10 Black Knights, 20 Skellies, and 20 GG). You can drop the Vampire Lord for 5 Knights or maybe reduce one of the 20 skellies to only 10 and that might have enough points for the 5 extra nights. Before the points hike there were some pretty decent lists also running 10 man squads of blood knights were Nefy would cast Dark Mist on. Then you would have 30 wounds saving on a 3+.

[@justinterrell7020]

@@nopaintnogains948 that sounds horrendously gnarly. Those drops sound like what I’d do too, either 10 skeletons or a lord. Its a little iffy because LoB loves its vampires a lot; I forget, do they still have command abilities in aos3? I recall the lords has the great ability to give extra attacks. If the 10 Knights were already accounted for then I think the lord or reinforcing the deathrattle are probably the better options, just as long as I get to use my cool horse guys! Also, assuming its Warlord/Battle Regiment?

[@nopaintnogains948]

In the video I talk about how pairing the foot vampire lord with a 20 or 30 block of skeletons makes a great anvil that can dish out a surprising amount of damage when you buff the unit with Hoarfrost and the +1 attack from the Vamp Lord.

[@Dod-z6w]

If anyone has an answer for me, my friend and I are having a debate. He insists that if I have 2 vampire lords on foot (VL), standing next to 2 units of skeletons, that I can only use Crimson Feast with 1 VL. I say each VL can use Crimson Feast in the same turn as long as they are each targeting a different unit. Thoughts?

[@nopaintnogains948]

You are correct. Each Vamp Lord can use Crimson Feast so long as they do not target the same Summonable unit. This works b/c the wording on the ability does not classify Crimson Feast as a command and as such is not subject to core rule 6.1

[@Dod-z6w]

@@nopaintnogains948 Thanks!

[@pelorix4969]

Thoughts on Blood Knights with this bloodline?

[@nopaintnogains948]

Blood Knights used to be a core unit when the book first launched. You would take a reinforced unit and apply Dark Mist on them making them a very difficult piece to remove. They fell out of favor with subsequent points nerfs. Their problem comes more from the fact that the current book format favors Summonable very heavily. That coupled with how expensive core LoB units are make it difficult to justify bringing Blood Knights. You can for sure try running something like: Nefy, VLoZD, Vamp Lord, Dire Wolves, Dire Wolves, Skeletons x2, Blood Knights, Blood Knights (Maybe 1 unit reinforced and have Nefy use Dark Mist again). But I can't guarantee it will perform exceptionally well. Hope this ramble made sense and helped :)

[@pelorix4969]

It did! Thanks for the response!@@nopaintnogains948

[@jamesbrick6453]

Dont mean to be that guy, but you cant auto slay Gargants ...

[@nopaintnogains948]

Yea, that’s a mistake on my part. Nothing wrong with being the guy who helps clarify the rules 😁 thank you for pointing it out

[@jamesbrick6453]

Ha, appreciate that :) great vid though. (Neffys -1 to hit debuff is friendly units in 12" though aswell not enemies)

[@Croatoam97]

Since LoN might come out later, would black knights, wight king on steed and VLoZD bee good in that list? Kind of following the rule of cool atm and just bought the vanguard box

[@nopaintnogains948]

I am terribly behind on posting the new vids due to work and personal things getting in the way, but I am hoping to get a LoN and a Vyrkos video out soon. If you are going for just rule of cool then those units would work fine. Normally you see competitive LoN lists running Manfred, Lauka Vai, a vamp lord on foot, and maybe a necromancer or a popular choice is the sons of velmorn (which are near impossible to find right now). Black knights are versatile enough that they can be used in almost any list in my opinion.

[@rebeccabueno2991]

Wow, that Neferatta mini is so cool, I wonder how you painted it! Did you use the same color scheme?

[@nopaintnogains948]

The model is very nice. I used a terrible teal, red combination when painting mine. Should have probably used purple instead 😁

[@clarkcommando1983]

But this looks cool love my undead models I have til end of month to prep for my first escalation league starts 01/30