- The second and third hits of 1A:A:A are both just frames. I think you said just the first one. - Learning to haze into moves is really important for meter management. Plus, it lets you do cool stuff like advance into 44B+K. For example, 4B:B, 3B+KB, 6B, 8B+KB, 6A+B builds about 8% of a bar while the hard command version (4B:B, 2143BB, 6B, 8B+KB, 2143aB) builds 25%, while also doing 6 more damage if you can get the just frames. - Best follow up I've found after 236A+G is 2362_4A+BA. ~51 damage isn't bad. Edit: I'm a goof. Best follow up is 2143a:B. 55 dmg normally, 59 with JF. If you can't do that, or only need the damage to kill, just do 6A+B. 2362A+BA is good if you have a wall to your left, as it can sometimes grant a combo, if the opponent comes off the wall properly. Still learned a ton from this video. Thank you so much for making it.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Pinning this. I suspected that with 1AAA. I couldn't for the life of me get the 2nd or 3rd JF's on pad.
@hackprefect4 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 It's all a timing thing. You're right in that you have to hit the next button when the previous one hits the opponent. I've been playing Setsuka since SC3, so I still have a feel for it. But it's not easy. But outside of the extra meter build, it's up to each individual player to decide whether the extra ~10% or so damage is worth it. I honestly think learning how to haze for meter build is much more important, especially at the start, but I'm also not a pro level player. So, to each his/her own.
@morriganrenfield82404 жыл бұрын
Been playing setsuka since a couple days after release, as she's my first character I've taken remotely seriously since buying the game I imagine I may be a bit behind others due to learning basics along with just learning HER but I'm going to see if I can put some of what you said here to use!
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Setsuka rewards commitment.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache4 жыл бұрын
She became one of my mains now, glad they brought her back
@morriganrenfield82404 жыл бұрын
You play soul calibur?! Cool haha
@MattyD3154 жыл бұрын
If anyone with a stick is having a hard time with a:g:B just frame I have a nice tip for you. I'm not positive when they added it back into sc6, but we can double map single buttons now(could not at launch). So I personally had my stick mapped as: A B K - G - - - So, make use those dead spaces on the bottom row! My new layout since Sets came back is now(was also my sc5 layout for Apat): A B K - G A G B This effectively lets you just quickly whip your finger across those last 3 buttons on the bottom row for a perfect just frame a:g:B 100% of the time. I happen to use a Hitbox so the buttons are smaller and makes the command that much easier to do, but its still absurdly easy even with full size fightstick buttons. Its totally worth adding this just frame move into your arsenal, it gives you stupid damage combos for low effort. On lethal hit counter launchers it lets you do it 2 to 3 times and chase it with a twister for obscene damage.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Nice, great input here.
@Cs2sasukeuchiha122 жыл бұрын
"Don't pick this character if you're still learning SoulCalibur or a Beginner" *Picks Character cause a buddy gotta learn a lesson and Im doing it out of spite* Great video! I will be watching it often!
@ForceofNature992 жыл бұрын
😂Dang. Good luck though thanks for watching! Setsuka's great by the way!
@impossibsrusamurai4 жыл бұрын
I just love how much detail Project Soul gave Setsuka in this game. Anyone can play her now, but it takes dedicated players to master her just frame inputs and commands. Great guide bro!
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Yes! Project Soul did a great job with Setsuka in SCVI. Was worth the wait! She is a lot more accessible now than Alpha Patroklos was in SCV.
@nrolling71923 жыл бұрын
Setsuka is a very technical character i dont see many people using her in tournaments, she's a little bit like Patrokolos
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she utilizes the same fighting style as Alpha Patroklos.
@nrolling71923 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 i paused the video before the end to post this comment 20 seconds later you put the picture of Patrokolos wow, yeah didn't he have a move that hits low, medium then high just like Setsuka? i used the regular Patrokolos with the shield because the other version you had to be too precise with certain moves
@hefezopf60153 жыл бұрын
@@nrolling7192 probably 1aaa from setsuka in sc6.
@jahronwilliams5003 Жыл бұрын
Setsuka trained patrokolos
@zerobloodedge6632 Жыл бұрын
@@jahronwilliams5003 My first SC game was 5 so I mained Alpha once I unlocked him, I knew his master was Setsuka but I didnt wanna go to the older games in order to play her and SCV isnt on ps5 as far as im aware. Just got 6 today and starting to practice her in story mode
@williamlipayon13114 жыл бұрын
If someone was good at Alpha Patroklos, it meant they were truly alpha. In terms of execution at least. I knew a guy who was super consistent at the just frames, but he would get read like a book and lose a lot. But there would be those guys who wiped the floor against my viola or cervantes. Truly terrifying to fight against, but also mad respect, since there was no easy mode inputs.
@MattyD3154 жыл бұрын
It always felt awesome getting messages after games in 5 with people complementing me on my JF usage. Thats why Apat ripped. He was the best character in the game, by far, if you could nail your JF inputs. Or he was the worst character in the game, by far, if you couldn't lol. Win or lose, if you can bang out your JFs you get respect.
@Driptor_Swagpyre5 ай бұрын
My buddy recently got me heavily into soul calibur. Your guides have been invaluable to my continued growth with this game. Your guides, as well as Learning Setsuka has genuinely made me better at the game. I noticed when i defaulted back to fighting my buddy with Seigfried after getting destroyed, and everything suddenly clicked for me. Thank you for these videos, truly.
@ForceofNature995 ай бұрын
You're welcome Driptor! SC is awesome! 👍
@tylerbegay67213 жыл бұрын
i'm a beginner to the soulcalibur series & soul calibur 6 is the 1st soul calibur game i played in the series my playstation friends told me about this game being better then the tekken series due to gameplay & customizations being better then tekken gameplay & customizationss like even my friends told me that each game in the game has different type of weapons like a staff dagger blades swords kitanas axes & i was interested in playing as a kitana character & setsuka seemed interesting to me i understand that she is not meant for beginners players like me but i wanna main setsuka though this is why i'm watching this video & i have already seen a beginners guide for soulcalibur 6 i wanna become a good setsuka player my friends main 2B & groh they had been playing soulcailbur longer then me so i hope i can defeat my friends as setsuka i seen her gameplay too in soul calibur 3 & 4 sucks she wasn't in 5 but was happy to see her return in 6 but really wished yoda & darth vader returned in soul calibur 6 i understand they are guest characters from star wars.
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
Nice, have fun with SoulCalibur VI it's a great game. Honestly, if you're committed to SCVI, you should be able to main Setsuka no problem. She rewards commitment. Good luck!
@tylerbegay67213 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 yeah i'm am comeing straight from the tekken series so it gonna take me some time to get used to soul calibur series game mechanics.
@Darklord3592 жыл бұрын
Very usefull guide. Definately a must watch for anyone who's brand new to Setsuka and definately helped me in understanding her better
@ForceofNature992 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
@pokemondude454 жыл бұрын
I've been looking high and low for someone who actually covered the just frames for her moves so this is very much appreciated.
@billyhaigh92744 жыл бұрын
I think the games more popular in Asia, were lucky this guy looks out for us
@irina12964 жыл бұрын
Great combos. I'm so happy she's in this game
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Thank you. She's a great character.
@forestskilbred94614 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide man, was waiting for this.definitely gonna practice some of these combos, they're hard to do especially with JF inputs. There's a combo you didn't mention that's pretty sweet. In SC: 66B (Normal hit), b[A](Sky), A+B. Crap ton of damage. Looks awesome.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Nice, thank you!
@MrNinjafreak Жыл бұрын
Yea, I was confused when it came to the whole blue sparkle stuff. Thx for the guide.
@ForceofNature99 Жыл бұрын
No problem. You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@MrAnnoyingYouBadly Жыл бұрын
I thought I'd commented on here before but i just rewatched for the fun of it. This guide really helped when i first started playing. I actually picked up Setsuka as my first character as a complete a noob to soul calibur and refused to give up once i figured out shes not exactly beginner friendly but this guide helped me out tremendously. It took me a few months to be able to use her hard inputs and get the JF down(i still miss inputs and or drop combos now but not often). I think its important to learn the haze input moves though, otherwise building meter is almost impossible. But this guide taught me its ok to use the easy ones when i need to lol. The detail you go into is extremely helpful, knowing what range your character is best at and which moves are best for combos starters isnt covered in a lot of guides. I appreciate these tutorials you put out man you've helped me improve my setsuka and seong mi-na a lot. I first saw this guide about 2 years ago i think but rewatching it was a good refresher course so to speak. Thanks again for the work you put into these!
@ForceofNature99 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the support buddy. I think this is the best endorsement I've ever received! Setsuka is pretty fun, but hard. I wish that Namco & Team NINJA would give me a bit more to work with. I've got some ideas for content still in the woodwork.
@morriganrenfield82404 жыл бұрын
She is literally my whole reason for coming back. I love characters that use a bamboo umbrella for fighting. Probably why my favorite ship in ranma 1/2 was r/r lmao. I'm awful at the game but I'll adjust and figure it out before the pandemic is over! :P
@amenoyoni2 жыл бұрын
Love Setsuka and you guide. Thank you!
@ForceofNature992 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching! 🙂
@DreadPyke4 жыл бұрын
I also noticed moves from her QCF stance (which are her 66 moves) produce more meter than doing 66 input. The combo at 5:42, you could improve by ending with 236B+K.B for more meter. Similarly all her other moves from that stance produce more meter.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for the heads up! Yeah, Setsuka has these little tricks for boosting her meter, because her moveset doesn't innately "generate meter quickly". I'll admit that the 66B+KB enders are actually optional because they can be ukemi'ed (thus the combo unfortunately would have to be cut short against an opponent that tech rolls it). A general rule of thumb for Setsuka pretty much: The tougher the technique performed, the more meter it generates. It's an interesting design to encourage and ease players into her "real execution".
@DreadPyke4 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 Thanks! I just saw the combo ender heads-up in your description before you commented. I'm just going through your video slowly atm, so it's likely you may mention it later. I just started SC6 yesterday, after the subreddit convinced me it was a good time to start. Am from the Tekken scene, so spending alot of time labbing and learning different chars. Setsuka seems to be have alot more just frame shenanigans like Lee from Tekken, so she's actually quite enjoyable!
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
@@DreadPykeNo problem dude. If you liked Just Frame shenanigans, you missed the fun with SoulCalibur V's Alpha Patroklos. He utilised Setsuka's playstyle, but had JF shenanigans out the ass (some considered him "broken"), but was super technical to compensate. Setsuka's easier, but naturally rewards technical play.
@DreadPyke4 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 Sounds pretty crazy! I'm really enjoying the series, despite joining in late. 8 way run inputs are going to take some getting used to! I'm playing Geralt and Sophitia as well, as they seem to be more fundamental based characters. Atleast from the moveset it seems so, Geralt having some more whacky options.
@Rime3883 жыл бұрын
dawn haze, twilight haze shrouded sky and wings of heaven she has four meters and four stances holy shit and mixed together with obvious moves and quick moves you can so make someone's life a hell
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
Yup, definitely!
@holyother1 Жыл бұрын
Just started soul caliber 6 (my first soul cal game). A mishima player in Tekken so I’m used to do crouch dash/wavedash like that anyways so she might be my pick
@ForceofNature99 Жыл бұрын
Setsuka's a good choice if you're coming from Tekken Mishima's. Execution shouldn't be an issue either.
@GozuTennai4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! Hilde and Setsuka should have been in from day one, in my opinion.
@Tony-oh4 жыл бұрын
thanks, I've been waiting for this day
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! ;-)
@Iankill21214 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this just got this character helps with figuring her out alot
@dangerzone24703 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's just almost the same as alfa patroklos sc5 with a little adding n effect Some of them also (one thing that I really appreciate is they changed how nightmare playstyle)
@knaregames96124 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm a beginner but for some reason the harder characters like Amy hilde and setsuka are easy for me. I already had some idea of how to play setsuka but this ironed things out for me thanks
@throwawayemail62694 жыл бұрын
I find characters with complex movesets but normal or easy execution like Voldo, Hilde and Amy are my favorites. I can comprehend difficult "gimicks" (for lack of a better word) easier than I can execute just frames and the like. It's a shame sometimes, because characters like Siegfried would probably be my cup of tea if iagA weren't so needed.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
*NOTE: The 66B+KB in most of the combos can be tech roll escaped. They were just added for show. Do you like women whom fight with umbrellas? Do you miss Alpha Patroklos...? #MrJustice If you're having a little difficulty with the FGC notation terminology, check out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip2mlHSfg7GtptU Join TopTierFighters here: www.patreon.com/toptiertips/overview Here's some Lethal Hit Combos by Draethion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKHQeJyhi6aEqaM&feature=emb_logo Some more combo ideas here by Samuraihachi: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6rCYWabe6t2epo #Setsuka #SCVI #SetsukaSCVI
@hamptonwooster4 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial! Subbed
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@JustAnte95573 жыл бұрын
What I like about SCVI Setsuka is her voice, especially how she "screams" while using 6A+B, and A+B! She sounds like a real warrior unlike other females, my opinion
@SeventhheavenDK2 жыл бұрын
"She sounds like a real warrior unlike other females" And... the point?
@xsmoelf2 жыл бұрын
im already really used to just frames from playing tekken, i think her just frames are pretty forgiving atleast. Thank you so much for the guide! it was super helpful. also that parry from her stance into the slicing attack is fukin sick haha.
@ForceofNature992 жыл бұрын
Oh, Tekken is great for execution practise (Kazuya player?). Setsuka's & SCVI's just frames are very forgiving. It's just in place to stop mashing. Setsuka's moveset is incredibly stylish, she's great. 👍
@xsmoelf2 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 ye i play kazuya so yeah its pretty natural to do. but yeah setsuka is really sick. havent really lloved many characters besides her in soul calibur.
@HardworkGenius4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, subbed.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for the support! :-)
@SlavicWhiteWolf4 жыл бұрын
Was hyped enough to patiently wait for her - NOW i'm afraid to pick her because difficulty lvl ADV scares me - and I'm "green" in Soul Calibur ....
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
It's all good, Project Soul gave her a few "Easy Commands" ;-). Though, I need an "easy command" for iagB...
@CriticsConfession4 жыл бұрын
If it's any consolation: I found every character in this game too hard/full of gimmicks until her.
@yammoto1483 жыл бұрын
She is a lot easier to use than in previous games but harder to master with her new mechanics. I will she has easier inputs but some of her combos still need skill.
@Kenlac924 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this, you really got me off to a good start with her. Good stuff as always.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
No problem. Thanks for watching!
@karmad.twelve66134 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!! Been playing her lately!
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! She's fun haha! :-)
@olincay34104 жыл бұрын
Yoo I've seen your DOA stuff on reddit and really helped out! Didn't know you did SC6 too.. anw.. the 214, 236 moves (B,A, and 2A) have JFs too, dont know if you intentionally left those out in the JF section..
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Nah, it wasn't intentional. I only went over a few of the JF's, mainly the relatively common ones. In the outroduction, I mentioned that I likely didn't go over all of Setsuka's JF's because she has too many and that would require a guide in itself. This guide is mainly an introductory overview of this complex character.
@ChaoticUrges4 жыл бұрын
11:10 This is what I was looking for
@JustAnte95573 жыл бұрын
My favourite character
@ziyomitsu31374 жыл бұрын
Aw not reccomend for beginners huh. I have a huge passion for this character and waited over a year for her to be added. So imma just tough it out. But is it impossible to learn the game with her or just not reccomended?
@hackprefect4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is impossible. But trying to learn everything at once is probably overload for some.
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can learn SCVI with Setsuka, she's not as "weird" as say Voldo or Azwel, but it can be too tempting to get caught up just focusing on execution, instead of fundamental stuff. To help out, you can just use the "Easy commands" until you've gained some experience with SCVI and Setsuka in general. To put things in perspective, it would be a lot easier to learn the game with a character like Geralt, Seong Mina, Mitsurugi or Sophitia for instance.
@SlavicWhiteWolf4 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 I tried Mitsu and Mi-na and decided to go through with Mitsu - enjoyed game a lot with him
@Dr.KaitouPhD4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Will you be doing more character guides? If so, I will be waiting on the Groh guide. :)
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Hi YumeKaitou, thanks for watching! Yes! I'm tentatively getting guides prepared for October, November, December (new character timing?), and likely into 2021. Groh is within the next 5 guide window as a heads up ;-).
@Dr.KaitouPhD4 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 thanks!
@lesnayle11 ай бұрын
Ok so its the same as other setsuka and alpha patrokalis with a few modifications thats whats up
@ForceofNature9911 ай бұрын
Pretty much.
@njparham38293 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@Pokephantom4 жыл бұрын
You rule man!
@Dragoon876 Жыл бұрын
Baetsuka
@ForceofNature99 Жыл бұрын
😍
@Coolbird003 жыл бұрын
@SMRT F.O.N how well does Amy match up with Setsuka? So far, I can't do nothing against her. Do you have any advice on how Amy should play Setsuka?
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
Hey, sorry about the late response. This is an awkward match-up for Amy, because both characters are good in close range. I'm not that familiar with the match-up, but I'd try staying out of Setsuka's 1A:A:A range (which can track too) and trying to sidestep and punish any vertical attacks with a 22B combo to build up some red roses.
@Kanzuki4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of learning her as I've only ever played her casually. Think I'll just stick with Seong Mi-Na instead
@california_wang80784 жыл бұрын
Cool vid, setsuka is lit man, too bad i don't have money for any dlc money so I'll just let her hold a zweinhander >:] Also, this is bit off topic but there's some background noise
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's the PS4 Pro's fan. It's annoying as hell, and I don't have a studio setup to minimize it. When I do get a customized studio, the PS4 is going in a corner by itself haha.
@_mass_4774 ай бұрын
26:14
@LotteLattes3 ай бұрын
Dont use her if you are new to the game or learning! Me who literally got the game for her alone 😞
@Spliffurt4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think this character's kind of broken? I feel like even in 5 A Patro was a disaster
@_mass_4772 ай бұрын
12:45
@_mass_4772 ай бұрын
3:17
@xavierisangedighi19303 жыл бұрын
What do the numbers mean
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
Oh, they represent the different moves. 6K means 6+K or Forward+Kick. Check this out: For Directional Notation 7 8 9 4 5 6 1 2 3 Each number represents the corresponding direction. 1 for "Down-Back", 9 for "Up-Forward", 5 for "Neutral" or no input, etc. Quarter-Circle Back = 214, Quarter-Circle Forward = 236, Half-Circle Back = 63214, Half-Circle Forward = 41236, etc. For Input commands: A = Horizontal Attack B = Vertical Attack K = Kick G = Guard Button 6G = Guard Impact A+G = First Throw 4A+G = Second Throw 6B+G = Resist Impact B+G = Reversal Edge A+B+K = Critical Edge 236A+B+K = Soul Attack
@xavierisangedighi19303 жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 thank you
@TheSetsukalover3 жыл бұрын
next time when you did some juggles with her put at the 2nd action Block and tech rolls booth many your juggles arent guaranted....:)
@ForceofNature993 жыл бұрын
Noted that already in the description.
@PortlyPete2 жыл бұрын
why did you put glasses on her?
@pedrosequeira98292 жыл бұрын
Coz reading is fundamental
@speedbump84714 жыл бұрын
Is tira a bad character to learn the game with?
@ForceofNature994 жыл бұрын
In general yes, because you essentially need to learn two movesets with her: Jolly mode & Gloomy mode. She also doesn't switch moods on a whim, so there's an element of randomness with the "mood changes". If you don't mind putting in the extra work, she's got decent tools to work with.
@armandocolon60767 ай бұрын
Still don't know how to get it can you make a video how to get it?
@MetaSynForYourSoul3 жыл бұрын
She's one of those, "Either you saw my boy Force of Nature's guide, or your losing!" Type characters. If you don't KNOW what you're doing, you WILL, uh, get it in the end (f'ing community guidelines) without Vaseline or mercy, sandpaper rolled in resin and broken glass condom, not even the common courtesy of a reach around. Uh, (*smacks self upside own head. Get back on track, idiotá!) what I'm trying to say is while "Snow Flower" ain't my cup of tea per se, she has her own charm for those that use her and she is quite formidable for those who have trouble dealing with her, *ahem, more interesting strings. Every one I've come across online is either total trash or whoops mine posterior post haste "GG Scrub! :-)"
@MrNinjafreak Жыл бұрын
Eh, nevermind. I can't get the timing right 😁
@ForceofNature99 Жыл бұрын
🙁
@MrNinjafreak Жыл бұрын
@@ForceofNature99 It's still a good video tho. I'm just terrible w 1 frames.
@Polomance8624 жыл бұрын
I hate to admit it, but Setsuka is just not a fun character to play to me. She doesn't have some form of decent introductory that makes it easy for me to understand her combos and strengths. A lot of button pressing with hardly any results to come through. I've yet to meet a strong Setsuka online either, cementing that her playstyle isn't that strong or fun.
@Marcusjnmc3 жыл бұрын
very late reply '.' Setsuka is almost impossible to play optimally online due to the netcode creating just frame variance, so is very unpopular online, but her optimal oppressive pokes playstyle can be learned online, other characters are better though aye if you get a lot of fun out of combos, even offline she isn't a combo oriented character.
@grantgarbour4 жыл бұрын
This character is so annoying to fight lol, it feels like all her attacjs are tech crouch
@Kenlac924 жыл бұрын
more annoying to try to and these combos. satisfying when you do though