ASBA Top Lug Snare | Wild Lug Flexibility for Unparalleled Versatility (John JR Robinson sig model)

[@micheldumonceau9776]

It is indeed ASBA in one word; I grew up in french speaking Belgium and have never heard it as A.S.B.A. They made a metal model for the great french drummer Christian Vander in the early seventies before he got himself into Gretsch (and stayed there). I never thought that that name would ever come back until I saw a few sets last year. I always enjoy your videos.

[@af7119]

Wow I'm really impressed first and foremost by the sound! The additional versatility makes this drum a must have. Thanks for bringing it to us!

[@ShaMan54321]

This drum sounds INCREDIBLE! Such a unique design, too. Really interesting and innovative.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Agreed!

[@miguelmikemigs]

I’ve been subscribed to your channel for, I think, two years now. Last weekend was the first time I had to tune another person’s snare drum to fit the style they were going for in the recording. I did it in like 10 mins but it was the culmination of hours and hours of watching your videos and thinking about tuning and recording as a result of it. I dont get to fuss about drum tuning a lot so last weekend was the first major breakthrough I would say. I no longer needed samples to cover for wonky sounds for that recording. And no matter how much compression or saturation I use the sound stays solid and doesnt fall apart. Big big thanks to you guys for helping out this lonely engr in an island in the middle of nowhere.

[@DZNTZ]

Thanks a lot guys, now I NEED this drum. I’ve always wanted an ASBA for the deco elegance, now I have to have this drum for the elegance AND the amazing system. As many lugs as you want? 8” deep? Beautiful finish and hardware? Yes please!

[@danielklimov7284]

This drum is insane! Great job guys!

[@Eurodrummer666]

You were right when you said it on your Instagram live feed, this snare is unique and truly versatile.

[@brianfieldsdrums3220]

What a crazy, cool and beautiful instrument! That drum is a game changer. Thanks for sharing this! As an aside, here's my favorite JR story. I was at PASIC several years ago where JR was presenting. Waiting in the audience for the clinic to start, music was playing and it seemed like the clinic was running late. After a few moments I realized the song was changing every 10 seconds, give or take. All of the song snippets were songs that JR played on . The clinic had indeed already started. This went on for about 13 minutes! He went on to finish presenting a wonderful clinic.

[@edsterling5258]

Fun to feel your enthusiasm. Also fun to imagine that 99% of buyers will get it home, space the lugs evenly top & bottom and in distance, and never change that again! haha

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Glad to hear that the enthusiasm was palpable! Given who this drum is positioned towards and the price point, I doubt most owners wouldn’t constantly be experimenting but either way, it’s one mighty fine drum that holds its own against any of the other boutique builds we’ve seen.

[@GUSCRAWF0RD]

I bought this and put 3 lugs on the top and 4 on the bottom and I used beads instead of snare wire it’s my absolute favorite

[@marcpatzelt2430]

This is the most awesome drum I've seen in my life

[@MoustacheMedic]

I wasn't thinking much of this drum until the 4 lugs on one side, now that's a crazy range, and I can totally see using that 4 lug to a side configuration. Absolutely sick.

[@patdeniston3697]

that rail system is pretty slick. I could see myself spending hours trying different things on this drum

[@moondrums]

Beautiful drum. I always enjoy your videos. nice job.

[@percasso5335]

That last sound is insane guys! SO much fun. Great video as always

[@dpinskey]

Pretty cool. Very versatile indeed. Nice demonstration of tonal possibilities. I especially liked some the darker, dryer tones

[@charbomanable]

Greg video of a legendary innovative brand ASBA !

[@jeremiahcowling3837]

I would love a system like this on a 13x3 piccolo, I love the newer Dennis Chambers snare that has 12 on top and 8 on bottom, but it feels like a very one-niche instrument and the ability to have that setup as well as a more standard setup would be fantastic to me.

[@drummercarson896]

I enjoyed this live stream this morning and I love that snare drum

[@drumdiscussion7776]

This drum is awesomely innovative. It offers flexibility at your fingertips without spending a fortune on a variety of snare drums for their sound qualities. 🎯

[@tophatjohnny]

Cool idea for sure !

[@austinbradley9864]

Not bad,,!I love the tone of this drum,,,very open but solid.I would love to try this drum on main stream hard driving bebop or linear odd meter rhythms.

[@ShinyShinyBlack]

wow, wow, wow. Awesome drum. Great video guys.

[@weschilton]

What a freaking COOL drum! Man the difference in tone and timbre is just astounding! Great video!

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Glad you enjoyed it and could pick up on the differences! It’s funny how some people here in the comments section completely missed those details- the key elements that are intrinsic to the value proposition of an instrument like this- and are incredibly negative. Kudos to you for your attention to great ears!

[@weschilton]

@@SoundsLikeADrum Well, I've been playing for nearly 40 years and have owned over 100 snare drums in my time... I still have about 15.... I might be adding this to the collection now! And I'm a huge JR fan too!

[@Glock_Nico]

Wow! This drum is bananas! I love it!

[@oscarconstante273]

Love that snare drum

[@daltonidaho]

Usually I'd say anything deviating too far from the tried-and-true is a gimmick, but this rail system actually looks simple and seems to work great! Pretty innovative! Different shell options would be awesome.

[@PabloJ1968]

Cody :The Best!

[@stephenrosenthal5337]

Given that the top and bottom tensioners are both connected to the same rail, how much do they influence each other? When you change tension on one head, how much does it affect the other head?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

We couldn’t get them to have any noticeable impact on each other in terms of tension applied. That said, changing one head will always influence how the opposing head behaves simply because of the physics of a two-headed drum. Yet another fun feature of this design is how you can further adjust that through the positioning of the lugs, allowing for asymmetric placement.

[@theflint7692]

Incredible instrument. I've got to experiment with some strategic lug de-tuning to get that fat, compressed sound.

[@remygaron8311]

It does remind me a of pearl free floating system but more versatil 👏👏👏🤟🏻🤟🏻🥁🇨🇦

[@KaiOwensDrums]

This is honestly the first out of the ordinary design that y’all have shown that seems genuinely useful and really interesting. My only question is, are there ever issues with the rim or head warping with the uneven tension? I play a kentevillw snare head and would worry about the hide

[@camerondean6804]

I can't answer for him, but in my opinion you'd want to be careful when not positioning lugs evenly to not overtension, esp. overtensioning of unevenly placed lugs for a long period of time. Esp. on a drum this expensive. Going to try to get one of these one day.... personally, I would only offset positioning/tensioning within bounds and for short periods of time. My little two cents. Oh, I mainly want the drum be be able to run a low number of lugs on top and bottom ... massive fan of 8- and especially 6-lug snare drums, and experiment with lug count (esp. high count batter and low count resonance), but 95% of the time evenly spaced. That three-ply lay up with re-rings screams Rogers Deluxe Student model (old Neil Peart #1).... I have three of them (all shallow)...hence, why I'd love to have one of these deep babies.

[@VON_RHEDBEARD]

This would be really interesting if they made interchangeable shells to go with this innovative rail system

[@dipietrodrums]

you had me with the Caroline t-shirt. Please, tell us what you know, what you've heard, etc. Oh yeah. Also, this snare drum is very cool. 😀

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Ha! They were very kind to send us a couple shirts along with the loaner snare. We haven’t heard anything more than what’s published on their website though.

[@trollakhinmemeborn3278]

And here I thought the dialtune was pretty nutty when it comes to versatility, queue this guy! It'd be even cooler if the legs had their length/tightness controlled by a screw, but you could unlock them on the go with like a locking joint mechanism or something, so that you could on the fly remove and add lugs anywhere you want

[@JJPercussion1]

I'd LOOOOOOOVE to get a multisonic strainer on that thing 🤯

[@policeluber6720]

Nice IKEA lamp !

[@Sundaydrumday]

My land this is a killer drum holy shit!!!! 😳

[@yourdrummer2034]

Is J.R. still with DW for the his kit or ASBA making all his drums now? And the Maple poplar maple shells are where it's at!

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Not sure- you’d have to go to the source for that information.

[@yourdrummer2034]

@@SoundsLikeADrum thanks. Great video!

[@famitory]

hot tip if you have a 12-lug you can achieve similar ideas by just taking out lugs. i have a 12-lug that i often convert to a 6-lug

[@famitory]

also i want to see this with the maximum number of lugs that can physically fit on it.

[@cliffbacken]

Sorry.!!! I realize after reading a number comments giving one hell of a review but for some reason it didn’t do much for me… I’m not saying it was voiceless and flat musically but it didn’t move me… But I must wrong and missing something if everyone really loves it….??!!!!

[@antbalci]

İ agree

[@davidbrown9395]

Love its tones, esp many on top. Where to find stand low enough for 8'' depth?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

We've had a handful of 8" deep snares here and have never had any issues with our older Pearl stands or Yamaha stand going low enough.

[@davidbrown9395]

@@SoundsLikeADrum thanks - been meaning to get a Yamaha light weight

[@Bingbing611]

I’m really liking the Caroline shirt Where did you get it?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Pretty cool, right? It was packaged with the snare. Maybe check their website via the link the description?

[@lostknotdown4ever]

What happened to the extreme ergonomics video? It got removed before i could watch it 😭🙂

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

We removed this video though we will likely cover the topic again in the future.

[@francois2291]

Bonjour. Essayez la batterie Asba en inox. Le son est incroyable. Merci pour vos vidéos.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Merci! Nous serions ravis d'essayer plus de leurs batteries après avoir eu une si belle expérience avec cet instrument.

[@camerondean6804]

I second this request. Great job... outstanding review of this drum.

[@frankfertier34]

@@SoundsLikeADrum ASBA original drums and hardware went out of business around 1982; they boasted okoumé drums, steel , copper, acrylic and stainless steel drums, two headed or single headed shells (Linda) , implemented mostly with cast hoops and lugs.. they produced the famous Caroline kick pedal and the fantastic Veronique Hi Hat pedal. everything was crafted in France. 30 years passed by, until an enthousiast Asba fan decided to bring it all back to life, with the opportunities the new world market offered. though I am not a great believer in this technological wizardry of a Snare drum,, I tip my hat to this invention. Thank you mister Pornet.

[@bilhamcobbly2957]

I’m wishing they would make “Harware only” converting kits for all drums it could include the rail system and all the claws.

[@camerondean6804]

Have you heard something about them re-releasing the Caroline? I would Love to see that happen.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

That’s apparently in the works!

[@camerondean6804]

@@SoundsLikeADrum Absolutely fantastic.

[@davidperez5089]

Reminds me of free floating snare idea somehow. Has Cody covered those already?

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Not yet but my first snare was actually a Pearl steel free-floater! Miss that drum…. -Cody

[@davidperez5089]

@@SoundsLikeADrum nice cherry popper! 👍

[@boristomakic5995]

Can I sugest you to check out Firchie snare and bring it to the test

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

We’re waiting to hear from them. We’d love to check out their current version.

[@boristomakic5995]

@@SoundsLikeADrum it's the same, same sound and tuning... only difference is a quick release hoop...hope you'll make it

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

@@boristomakic5995 Send them a message letting them know you'd like to see their drum featured on our channel. That's how Snare Spotlights happen.

[@weedysplifington9609]

Carter Sticks?

[@drummersinger5324]

Wow almost can't hear any snare in this dog. What you got on it 12 strands?

[@macnicholson_]

how much is this thing at retail price?

[@richi1543]

magnifique t shirt i like it

[@elwoodwhite9734]

How much is it? Who has it stores dealers? Didn't see whole video cell broke unlike this fine drum was using a government phone! True story getting a new one I'll find out answer than from someone thks great video

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Please visit the link in the description to find a local retailer.

[@Leotardoification]

This looks like a fun toy for the drummer that has endless time to mess around in the studio and an absolute nightmare for the touring drummer.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Interesting how we can all see it differently based on our experiences. That said, wait until you’ve spent a week with one before you write it off.

[@jiboo6850]

exactly but it's like they can't admit it. for this video it's ok as they have time to mess with it but for the rest it's not practical at all.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

@@jiboo6850 Maybe we just place greater value in time spent getting the right sound for the context than most. We disagree regarding the premise of the original comment here so it's not about admitting anything. Both of us have tech'd for sessions, tuned for our own performances live and in the studio and prepared sounds for hundreds of these videos and we've never spent a staggering amount of time getting the sounds because we've got the experience and the knowledge to keep it from becoming prohibitively debilitating. It's easy to imagine something being difficult or even nightmarish when you've yet to experience it first-hand- that's why we take the time to produce these videos and provide our experience, especially with more innovative designs like this system.

[@RicardoMartinez-zj7bv]

Very cool, why is my marriage failing though?

[@QuickestQuickChop]

Paying too much attention to drums?

[@RicardoMartinez-zj7bv]

@@QuickestQuickChop lol

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

I think you may have the wrong KZbin channel...

[@RicardoMartinez-zj7bv]

@@SoundsLikeADrum lol

[@RicardoMartinez-zj7bv]

@@SoundsLikeADrum Just joking around love the channel though you make great content

[@joshuabpolys]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@roryguerra7777]

ABBA lol ❤😊

[@TwoandaHater]

This causes me choice paralysis and I don't even have it... lol.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Start out simple and deviate from there.

[@jiboo6850]

i'm sorry but when you say "gigs snare" i say nope. "studio snare" yes but not gigs. live you don't have time to mess with things like that. that's why drummers use multiple snares if they need to in live situations. just a quick swap and it's ready to go. it's a beautiful and effective piece but good for studio only. unless you wanna keep one tune for a concert.

[@jiboo6850]

@@BennoSattler true. depends of studio time and money. good studios have schedule to respect and deal with.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Just to clarify, the reference to gigging wasn't about making adjustments mid-gig but rather that you can prepare the snare drum for just about any gig based on the needs while achieving the ideal sound for the context without compromise. When you might normally choose a different drum for a different gig, this drum covers the needs.

[@jiboo6850]

@@SoundsLikeADrum like any other drums LOL. your argument is not good.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

Nope, unlike any other drum for all of the reasons outlined in this video. Different lug counts and positioning vastly change the character of an instrument. That combined with the choices in edges, shell composition/dines ins, and every other customizable aspect of a snare drum make this an unparalleled instrument that could easily replace multiple drums in a working professional’s arsenal. No worries if this doesn’t resonate with you (not everyone considers their choice of gear for a gig with this degree of intentionality) but this is exactly what we thought as we started considering which drums we’ll be unloading in favor of this single snare drum. Thanks for watching!

[@weschilton]

@@jiboo6850 neither is yours frankly.

[@drummersinger5324]

Whatever the higher tuned side is becomes what the top side becomes. So stupid.

[@WDShorty]

Need to tune your snares way lower

[@Circadianarrhythmia]

They’re tuned just fine, and like most people tune their snares. /nm /gen

[@kronk358]

He usually does. I agree though. Especially with such a deep snare. No point in having it that deep if youre going to tune it like a piccolo

[@qlqnen]

Need to watch the video before commenting. Also, need to tune your snares to whatever is appropriate and at super low tuning, the specifics of the drum get lost.

[@jiboo6850]

@@BennoSattler i'm curious to know at what point you heard a choked snare drum? gimme a time stamp. 45 round over BEs are pretty good. i agree on the single ply head though. for demonstration purpose, Ambassador is the way to go. even a G1.

[@SoundsLikeADrum]

@Benno Sattler Sorry you feel that way about the head usage though we explained this in the video- we demonstrate the drum using the equipment that it ships with and it's as simple as that. If we start swapping heads then why not do wires too? Maybe different hoops for certain drums? How about trying out a different snare strainer? We choose to draw the line quite simply at using the equipment provided whenever possible.