South Africa pile more misery on England | Telegraph Rugby Podcast

[@SHUTUPNOWW9360]

As a South African the last 20mins of the game I didn't feel like England were gonna do anything...especially when we had a yellow card we defended well......rassie has used 50 different players this year for the springboks...building squad depth to win RWC2027

[@Sbu_Phakathwayo]

also the first try came off a knock on fassi try was never forward

[@concrete182]

Not sure I can agree with that ... Also, as a South African.

[@kirkpeters960]

I believe the constant team changes does affect the boks, played well below the standards - just not as fluid. But Rassie has a plan to build squad depth and it will pay dividends come the next world cup. Cannot complain about not playing your best and still winning.

[@renierswart5878]

Forward pass try should have stood. The reason: On field decision was try. This means to overturn it, they would need conclusive evidence. Of the two replays, one was debatable (argument for forward or not), and the other looked backwards. This means there was doubt and not conclusive. The law states this try should have stood.

[@eazyollie9370]

Well the laws wrong then it was miles forward

[@rodwellchigome7567]

Deserve credit for losing 3 in a row??? Eish, standards have dropped.

[@magdelinem6962]

Oh the humanity!😂🙈

[@treytreasure]

😂😂😂

[@reabetswekhiba7551]

💀💀💀💀

[@MeiA-h9r]

5 losses in a row now as well

[@06alepea1]

England just aren’t very good. And as Brian Moore said today, this is probably their ceiling. The players aren’t very good, and the coaches aren’t very good.

[@Sunshinez732]

The players are average. They overperform, to their credit.

[@siyandiki]

even when England had the lead at no point did they look like they were winning the game , they were not at the cusp of beating SA

[@richardlawrence3056]

Why does England media expect so much from their side when their have average players.. they deserve their ranking

[@ianjacobs2998]

Rassie had 50 changes since the Championship!!! 11 changes from the Scotland match to the England match!! We playing at 60% and still winning!!

[@zuzanalarge1183]

A bit crazy to be putting any blame on Marcus Smith for the three defeats, he’s been by far our best player across the three games and the main reason we’ve been in contention in all of them. The midfield conundrum, we need to try and find a second genuine running threat at centre, like pretty much every other top level international team play with! Borthwick has to take blame for the lack of impact from bench. He had better options to try instead of Iseke and Dombrandt. And Ford’s spot on the bench is a complete waste, he either starts at 10 or he’s not in the 23. Offers zero impact off bench and no flexibility in terms of positions he covers.

[@Sbu_Phakathwayo]

English first try came off a knock on fassi try was never forward

[@Hrodwulf9]

49:05 perfectly sums it up

[@davidwalker2402]

Smith was tired last 20 minutes he gave away the ball and SA scored he was also blocked down and SA scored a try. Can’t keep excusing his mistakes. Yes he makes some great runs , but he’s not a winger he’s a 10 supposed to controlling and driving his team , I don’t see too much of that from him. Maybe Finn smith needs to be given a chance.

[@GaryPhillips-k5h]

Looking for credit while losing

[@charliemoss4522]

Baffles me that Fin Smith doesn't get a chance. Marcus can play heads-up rugby but fundamentally we look disjointed and uncreative as a collective, whilst we have Fin available who consistently leads Saints to wins by steering the team.

[@Bpt8825]

Closer than what I thought it would be so well done on England for that, however, there are big issues including : the stark falling off in the second half Team fitness with the constant rush Predictable attacking shapes Better players not even featuring Most annoyingly of all is how great we are at handing teams golden momentum handshakes rather than having a killer instinct. The RFU needs a serious review of Borthwick and his team no matter the score next week. Genge is not a starting international 1 CCS should not be starting at 6 (Ted Hill should be) and should instead be coming on as a sub at 8 replacing the likes of a Tom Willis JVP is not what we need at fly half Lawrence and Slade just aren’t there as an international centre partnership, I’m praying Hartley or Wimbush come back strong from their injuries and fight for the 12 shirt with Freeman moving to 13. We need to have the Likes of Arundel and Jack Willis playing in the England 23

[@corneldejongh]

"Pieter Steph doesn't need to win it again"...why??

[@MeiA-h9r]

And I believe that was probably the worst Springboks have played this year Felt like they didn’t take that game seriously enough and wanted to play a close game for some reason

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

22:57 yes

[@khotsoramphele2961]

Might end up being a league on Netflix

[@James-ih4gz]

england should be at least top four they have much more resorces than most. i say this as a irish fan. ireland in comparison probably dont have as big

[@eazyollie9370]

The Top 4 sill be the Top 5 soon. England are close.

[@James-ih4gz]

@eazyollie9370 who's top five I think Sa 1, 2 is nz, 3 is Australia or France and 4 is Ireland five argentina it's top 6 at this point

[@eazyollie9370]

@James-ih4gz Nah I know we lost to Aussie but we are better than them. 1. SA 2. France 3. NZ 4.Ireland 5.England

[@James-ih4gz]

@@eazyollie9370 seems fair table have to see how six nations a dire year for wales I'd be worried if they can even win a game in six nations now maybe they can beat Scotland if they have a really bad off day. I can't see them beat Italy away. I can't see them win any home matches either it's that bad for them. Wales really need a easy summer tour next year to maybe Georgia or Romania and Spain Portugal to get confidence back.

[@James-ih4gz]

But even then wales would at this point struggle against Georgia with how form is going

[@markbruce7674]

Cant be impressive for 50 min mate ..

[@TheFIGHTERTC]

ridiculous Fin smith hasn't been given a start yet, yes Marcus makes himself look good but doesn't help the team overall

[@davidwalker2402]

I fully agree he’s playing like a winger not a 10 he controls very little of his own team yet thats his first job. Finn smith needs to be given a chance.

[@wot4922]

Not much of a team msn then. Games are not won by an individual.

[@lmarislmarislmaris4271]

England could have been penalized every ruck for their flopping over their tackled player.

[@M10-i6b]

A team C from SA would easily beat England.

[@BernardMorrey]

Let's be honest the scoreline were close. England can score they just need to tighten up their defence. I make them favourites for the six nations

[@warrenmitchell4800]

Sets up all the tries .. not scores ..sorry.

[@TheBoarder360]

Blaming Smith is ridiculous... the blitz defence is to blame, always get caught narrow and beaten on the outside. Smith is not the reason we cant buy a win, it's inexperienced and wooden coaching. The guy in the red shirt doesn't know enough to be sat at that table.