South Florida feels police officer shortage

Police Departments across South Florida are struggling to recruit and retain police officers.

[@jeffkelly9197]

Florida's law enforcement starting salaries are a joke. No one wants to put thier life at risk for 40-60k anymore.

[@xXSgtWolfXx]

Military puts their lives on line for far less

[@ZeeProductions2001]

@@xXSgtWolfXx you act like 70% of them going to war officers are at war everyday with people

[@juanalmos1959]

With off duty a first year rookie can make close to $80k ..a Sargent stats out at $80k and pass $100k with off duty

[@Tcyc-le3pi]

​@@xXSgtWolfXxthe big difference is that the army gets plenty of benefits and virtually zero expenses besides paying for your music subscriptions.

[@skycloud4802]

And risk lawsuits, prison sentences for wrong split second decisions, and media scorn.

[@danielakasmart2891]

I can tell you pay is part of the issue

[@juanalmos1959]

Actually pay is above COLA for a job with lots of downtime

[@danielakasmart2891]

depends on the department@@juanalmos1959

[@adamriddles]

Why? Officer pay is higher than pretty much any other job you can get with that little education and training. And the most dangerous part is the officers themselves since traffic accidents, heart disease and then suicide are the 3 leading causes of death for LEOS in the US. lol. hell. Its not even top 15 in dangerous jobs in this country.

[@heightsofsagarmatha]

Probably not a deciding factor. Ppl become cops because they want to help or they have perverse desire for power.

[@DortonFarb]

​@@juanalmos1959 Huh?

[@ricky7973]

Why do agencies still rely on meaningless polygraph exams as part of their hiring process? Smoked pot 15 years ago? Disqualified.

[@IIBLaCKBeaRDII]

The poly is fake, they only fail you if you change your story. Lie and you are fine, just don't change your story.

[@ron.247]

Junk science at best. You can fail a poly for having an irregular heartbeart. Disqualified!

[@michaelquinn7710]

Exactly!!!

[@DortonFarb]

Cops don't want to work with Jeff Spicoli.

[@ShadowF305]

It’s changing , the disqualification is when someone puts yes they’ve smoked on paper work and then say no during the poly

[@optic_pyramid954]

Being a police officer is one of the most hated careers as well as one of the most dangerous careers. Most people in this generation are not willing to put their life and dignity on the line for a job that makes the same amount of money as a Walmart worker

[@DortonFarb]

Lol. As a patrol officer, I've never earned over $335K in a year, but Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@v.l.c3979]

Couldn't pay me enough to work for any police department in Miami-Dade county. Smh Unprofessional also too much corruption and favoritism....

[@AntonioMaceoTitanDeBronce]

It’s called friends and family club… and it’s a disgrace and a moral killer…

[@RegimentJoker]

Thats every PD.

[@AntoineWilliams7118]

There’s a saying in business that goes “people don’t leave companies, people leave managers“

[@kevNy2]

Coral gables PD denies 99% of its applicants! It’s no surprise they have cruisers sitting around. Stop looking for saints & favorites and you’ll be better staffed.

[@natsonthervil3112]

Exactly

[@DominicanOps]

99% is probably an exaggeration but let's be honest....it's a tiny department that probably hires only a handful of officers at a time.....

[@dangthatstuff6887]

So you’re saying just hire anyone who wants to be a police officer wow.

[@DortonFarb]

There are very few people walking the face of the earth that can do The Job. Good cops would rather work short-staffed, than have to work alongside substandard applicants.

[@sarge131]

Florida has a much more law enforcement friendly environment for cops, but the salaries are incredibly low compared to much of the country.

[@RegimentJoker]

I'm at 120k base in illinois. I'd leave here in an instant for Florida if they paid similarly

[@fredo1010]

Ups Amazon Truck drivers Sales jobs Aaaaaaaallllll pay more than been a cop..even dou they put there life on the line everyday....how is this even posible.

[@heightsofsagarmatha]

All those ppl put their life on the line and most don't have union backing.

[@DortonFarb]

Lol. Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@alexyoung7371]

@@DortonFarbHow?

[@DortonFarb]

@alexyoung7371 By working. A lot. There are very few people walking the face of the earth that can do The Job, so almost all law enforcement agencies are constantly short-staffed, which means lots of overtime. Many agencies are offering starting wages of over $100K, in addition to signing bonuses of up to $75K, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. As a patrol officer, I've earned over $100K in four months and $250K in nine months. I was on track for a $335K year, but I retired nine months into 2019. That's why I can afford to drive a Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Performante Spyder. My daily work commuter car was a Porsche convertible that I custom-ordered new after touring the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen Stuttgart Germany. My young bikini model wife's daily driver is a BMW Track Pack car that I let her custom order, and then we flew to Munich Germany for her to take delivery at the BMW factory "Welt". I own a beautiful brick home with a swimming pool and custom movie theater, located on my private gated 5-acre estate. My 2,300+ square foot garage alone, is larger than most people's entire homes. We typically vacation one month a year in Europe, doing things like dining in the Eiffel Tower. I have a big fat tax-free government retirement pension and free medical for life, the equivalent of a six-figure income, as well as my LEOSA privileges under 18 U.S. Code 926C that allows me to legally carry a loaded concealed handgun in all 50 states without a permit or license of any kind, for the rest of my life.

[@PatrioticSeer]

@@alexyoung7371you know the answer

[@wilhelmheinzerling5341]

Stop paying minimum wage salary for LE

[@SOLiDNiTROGENv8]

Pay them less

[@adamriddles]

you high? they make way over min wage. its the highest paying job in the US currently where you only have a high school diploma and that little training. 80k +.

[@DortonFarb]

​@@adamriddles I only have a GED. As a patrol officer, I've earned over $100K in four months and $250K in nine months. I was on track for a $335K year, but I retired nine months into 2019. And that's nothing- Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@djcity1]

@@DortonFarbyou sound like your lying, highly doubt you are a cop, and in regard to the Oakland cop let’s consider the cost of living in California

[@DortonFarb]

@djcity1 Then you need new hearing aids...and reading lessons. I think you're just jealous that I can afford to drive a Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Performante Spyder, and you can't. For a daily driver, I custom-ordered a new Porsche convertible after touring the Porsche factory in Zuffenhausen Stuttgart Germany. My young bikini model wife's daily driver is a BMW Track Pack car that I let her custom order, and then we flew to Munich Germany for her to take delivery at the BMW factory "Welt". I own a beautiful brick home with a swimming pool and custom movie theater, located on my private gated 5-acre estate. We typically vacation one month a year in Europe, doing things like dining in the Eiffel Tower. And I have a big fat tax-free government retirement pension and free medical for life, the equivalent of a six-figure income, as well as my LEOSA privileges under 18 U.S. Code 926C that allows me to legally carry a loaded concealed handgun in all 50 states without a permit or license of any kind, for the rest of my life.

[@BlackStone11]

I applied with BSO last year, I got denied and was never told why. Plus I’m a U.S. Army veteran

[@DortonFarb]

They don't have to tell you why you weren't good enough.

[@flawlaw8679]

@@DortonFarbthen they shouldnt complain abt a shortage💀

[@DortonFarb]

@flawlaw8679 Lol, that doesn't even make any sense.

[@turbochad7038]

I've been denied from over like 14 departments and similar background to you

[@DortonFarb]

@@turbochad7038 What step in the vetting process are you failing?

[@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT]

With squirrels armed with acorns out there, who wants to be cop nowadays?

[@DortonFarb]

Lowering law enforcement hiring standards in the pursuit of diversity goals is ALWAYS a bad idea-just ask Tyre Nichols.

[@enmanuelmartinez709]

Become a lawlessness enforcement officer, they are all breaking the law, they are all against the Constitution....

[@Real_deal954]

I would love to but I make 70k driving/driver helper on garbage truck so it’s kind of hard to put my life on the line for less. Up the pay and give incentives!

[@purplecitygrow2233]

you can cut hair and double that to 140k a year. public schools really did a number on you ppl.

[@Real_deal954]

@@purplecitygrow2233 Too busy managing my air bnb’s and loaning my cars on turo and traveling the world!

[@DortonFarb]

​@@Real_deal954 Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@DortonFarb]

​@@Real_deal954 Lol, where have YOU "traveled the world" on $70K?

[@Real_deal954]

@@DortonFarb Just came back from Seoul, South Korea!

[@jayjo1609]

It’s too hard to become a police officer. They denied me for a juvenile record. Like wtf?

[@patrickwhelan5703]

You're kidding, right?

[@azjoe_6310]

Don't feel bad. In 1989 I applied for the US Capitol Police department. On a pre-screening application I did in person I was denied. Why? Because I admitted that I tried one Valium when I was 15. I had never smoked pot or used any other drugs in my life. In fact, a few years prior I had worked in a hospital pharmacy and could have easily taken valium everyday but never did. I wrote to the chief and told him that fact and that a polygraph would show that I never stole one pill from the pharmacy or used anything else illegal except that one pill 12 years prior. Nope. He said that was the requirements congress put in place and they look at Valium just like Cocaine.

[@michaelquinn7710]

I have been denied several times, failed a polygraph cause the examiner didn't believe i never did drugs and work history. I have made it through with other agencies on all tests but then have been passed over for young kids and sworn officers from outside the state, and I'm FDLE certified, I'm still trying but its a long process and frustrating.

[@DominicanOps]

which academy did you go to?@@michaelquinn7710

[@DortonFarb]

​@@azjoe_6310Felons can't be cops.

[@tashiprivat5711]

I literally went though 7 different agencies and unfortunately for all of them it was unsuccessful. It is better to do self sponsorship in my opinion if this is the only career path you want. The pysch logical evaluation it’s killing majority applicants.

[@Kiryu]

If someone went that route what are the chances they get hired by a department?

[@tashiprivat5711]

Honestly I’ve been hearing throughout my circle of friends it’s no different u will still have to go through the same process but it gives u more a higher advantage. So if it doesn’t workout in any state I will travel

[@Kiryu]

@@tashiprivat5711 well thanks for quick response. TBH I’m getting a little frustrated with the bs games departments have been playing. I’ve got the GI bill I could use that. If I go down the road of Self sponsorship dose that give me a better chance, like do I still have to jump through the hoops that applicants do?

[@DortonFarb]

​@tashiprivat5711 Attending a "pay to play" "academy" doesn't turn an undesirable applicant into a desirable applicant.

[@matthewmorel3758]

I’ve applied to 3 departments and got denied by all 3. No criminal charges or history other than a few speeding tickets. Y’all ain’t hiring so I don’t want to hear about a police shortage

[@The1GoldenRule]

It’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Meanwhile, a complete f@ck up will get the position that you were denied.

[@michaelquinn7710]

Been trying to apply for nearly a year, tell me about it!!!

[@DortonFarb]

Standards have never been lower. If you can't get hired in 2024, there's something wrong with you.

[@Loadrunner620]

Very HOT and HUMID in Florida. Plus you have to wear all that heavy equipment. Heat stroke, heart attacks. They need free housing. Maybe a Condo.

[@hellomyride7793]

True !! Better Pay and support to GOOD OFFICERS in house !!

[@danejah876]

You can make 50k a year working at Amazon. Who would put their life on the line for 40k when you can make more money scanning packages all night?

[@DortonFarb]

Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@MeBihhhh]

Kiddo there is so much not true in this little statement of yours 😂

[@ghost___5697]

I applied more than 50 times with different departments over the years. It was actually my dream job, but hey it is what it is

[@michaelquinn7710]

And never happened?

[@enmanuelmartinez709]

Dream job to be asked to violate the Constitution 24/7?

[@turbochad7038]

It sucks getting denied constantly dude I feel you there

[@jasielm5258]

ITS a club and you aint part of it. Joining the force is only possible if you know people on the inside to pull strings. Not even the department knows what they are looking for. Chickens without a head is what LEO in Miami looks like

[@DortonFarb]

​@@jasielm5258 Liar.

[@luisjrcadena9675]

I am always applying but they are never really hiring. It's like they just want us to pay for the CJBAT, the PT/swim tests, spend $400 on a suit for the interview only to send you an email that they have found better candidates.

[@DortonFarb]

Lol. Pretty much all law enforcement agencies are dangerously short-staffed, and are hiring constantly, to include attempting to recruit officers nationwide from other agencies. Many agencies are offering starting wages in excess of $100K, in addition to signing bonuses of up to $75K. If you're not getting hired, there's something wrong with you.

[@Lennylo238]

I’m in south Florida I never see cops here in broward never see traffic stops very rare Miami you’ll see more but Deerfield/pompano I do 100mph on the high way daily never see anything

[@Savinghistory4U]

Ever Notice they never tell you many of these spots open ,Are because of recently fired cops?

[@notdave2993]

True that. I have a friend who is a cop down there and he says they let new guys go all the time because they can’t preform on the job or they find out the job wasn’t for them! They can’t keep people to save their lives.

[@RegimentJoker]

@@notdave2993 that's not firing, that's them not passing probation. Totally different

[@aslysa2277]

Stop disqualifying applicants with otherwise a perfectly decent background over 1 or 2 minor things and maybe you’ll actually fill your vacancies instead

[@DortonFarb]

Exactly what "1 or 2 minor things" are causing you to be disqualified from this profession?

[@wachirarisky4284]

If you have abused power and been suspended for any reason regarding an arrest you shouldn't ever be a cop again. Period. I can excuse something like being drunk or high at the job but abusing your power is completely different

[@DortonFarb]

@@wachirarisky4284 Seek competent professional mental health care.

[@notdave2993]

@@DortonFarbweed and speeding tickets seem to be the most common issues I see.

[@DortonFarb]

@notdave2993 Have you ever done background investigations on law enforcement applicants? As a police officer, I have. The #1 problem, far and away, is lying.

[@santossuarez]

Shortage is here to stay.

[@ron.247]

Why is it?

[@kingjkendrick4534]

What happened to all those police officers Ron desaints said were flocking to Florida?

[@defiant415]

Are you talking about those badly trained NY cops, who can't fight or shoot, let alone deescalate a situation ?

[@DortonFarb]

​@@defiant415 Your girlfriend left you for a cop, eh? 😂

[@defiant415]

@@DortonFarb I was the cop. I used to ask her how she wanted to be F*kd. Like a Marine or like a cop. In all seriousness anyone who’s been on the job and have seen them in action can tell you the NYPD is a joke.

[@notdave2993]

They got here and realized it wasn’t worth the move.

[@WilliamPickett75]

There going to other parts of Florida. Like Southwest Florida, Naples, Fort Myers, Port Charlotte, etc. South Florida is too expensive to live. Plus South Florida politics, mayors, city or county commissioners

[@lalagalore1945]

I see a lot of police on active duty in the streets of Miami dade county someone is lying here just say y’all want a raise no need to lie about not having enough cops

[@Guccisteppin9922]

You’re supposed to see police lol … they’re saying that it isn’t enough police. You’re supposed to be seeing more police

[@3o5wasabii]

Facts,

[@robdmob305]

Yes and blasting this on the news will definitely drive the crime rate up 🫤

[@youtubefireworks]

Your self protection is your responsibility until law enforcement shows up,so the next 10 to 20 minutes is your responsibility. You can't expect these people to be there in a blink of an eye 😂

[@larryg7808]

This is music to my ears.... Hope they all quit... Up there pay now or lose all

[@lilmarcos1]

Why?😂

[@WeazelNewsUSA]

Music to your ears until you need them. God bless our police and military, they get no respect by f&k tards.

[@MeBihhhh]

@Neganisawesomehow low is it?

[@jasondavis1949]

​@Neganisawesomewe all put our lives on the line daily. When we step outside our homes and decide to get on the roads, you're putting your life on the line. All you can do is be prepared, stay alert and hope no one takes you out. The job is pretty much the same.

[@RegimentJoker]

@jasondavis1949 just because people face risk driving cars that doesn't equate go how police strictly respond go danger constantly. Cops face far more danger than the average Joe. Your frame of reference is pretty poor. You can choose to keep this frame of mind, it's your right, just know you're wrong.

[@Courtney1992]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact they want a 4 year degree and the fact you have to give up 6 months of your life for free all for them to tell you were looking for more qualified applicants

[@adamriddles]

ummm you only need a high school diploma my guy. Not sure where you looked but 100% of all LEO agencies in florida, for patrolman status/bottom of the barrel starting out only require a clean record and a high school diploma. thats it.

[@Courtney1992]

@@adamriddles and to move up?

[@adamriddles]

@@Courtney1992 time. bout it.

[@Dan.50]

I applied a few years back in another state and a YEAR later they called me... They were also "short staffed." The problem is in the antiquated hiring process.

[@DortonFarb]

Lol, no. The problem is that there are very few people walking the face of the earth that can do what we do, and law enforcement agencies nationwide are competing for qualified applicants. The Alameda Police Department is offering starting wages in excess of $113K, as well as a signing bonus of $75K. Florida needs to do better than that.

[@russiantroubleyakutsk1612]

I applied to be a police officer once. Got to the first interview. The standards and competition is just to hard to keep up with.

[@joie8465]

Truth is nobody gives a sh$t anymore lol

[@joshmalone4246]

I wonder why people dont want to join the slave patrol

[@corneliush8961]

Get all the Cubans out now

[@ri4906]

It's kinda late for that

[@Evyann305]

How about you getting out hater

[@tmartinez1948]

What do you mean by Cubans!! Idiot

[@mydude8731]

Cubans are like florida mexicans Like how Mexicans are texas mexicans

[@ricky7973]

Don't forget the useless Haitians!

[@turtletruth]

NO POLICE encounter ever benefits the taxpayer! Taxpayers want peace, to grow old without seeing, hearing, or meeting the enemy! - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)

[@DortonFarb]

YOU aren't a taxpayer, and we don't need your stolen valor BS. The bottom 50% of wage earners in the U.S. pay virtually ZERO income taxes, suck up 100% of the welfare dollars, and commit virtually ALL crimes. The top 5% of wage earners in the U.S. (like me) pay over 60% of the income taxes, use ZERO welfare dollars, and commit virtually NO crime. So basically, people like me pay to police people like you.

[@Rolkey]

@@DortonFarbSo because you’re successful that makes you essentially better than them?

[@DortonFarb]

​@@Rolkey No. I said what I said, nor what you said.

[@BroncosandTBRaysFanatic]

Here's a new idea for Police Departments all across the nations experiencing recruitment issues for new officers. And maybe a way to keep the officers you already have. How about subsidizing the rent or home ownership of officers. Either a voucher to offset the cost of rent or provide housing for officers and their families. In times like this different ways of making law enforcement more appealing is mandatory. Another idea would be to reduce property taxes of officers down to zero as long as the officer is employed by the department. Just my opinion

[@eazye088]

Start a police conscription service.

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

Draftees? Or more akin to Mobile Infantry from Starship Trooper? 🤔

[@DortonFarb]

Conscription is okay for the military, but there are very few people walking the face of the earth that are capable of being cops.

[@travelingwithhunter4383]

You mean to tell me that the law and order Republican state can’t find police officers.

[@DortonFarb]

They're just not paying enough. The Alameda Police Department is offering starting wages in excess of $113K, plus a signing bonus of $75K.

[@fahadsiddiqui1983]

Without the police state, who will then step on our necks?

[@Tcyc-le3pi]

Look at yourself😂 do you even have a neck?

[@VikkiKuznetsova]

Coral Gables still has a CVPI In service, omg! 😍

[@michaelsmith5583]

I applied years ago. I even did 5 years as an active duty MP in exchange for the “PAYS” program to be promised a LEO job in Florida upon completion of my federal service. I completed it, then asked about my job, I wasn’t black or female, so they couldn’t fulfill their promise. They created this problem, now they can enjoy it. Everything that goes woke, goes broke. Not my fault, I more than tried and they lied.

[@purplecitygrow2233]

play the card. say you're THE minority now and get hired thru AFFIRMATIVE ACTION

[@sophalopha]

this is true

[@defiant415]

Sorry to break it to you but LEO say they like to hire military but they really don't. It's not just you but most military from various levels being denied for random stuff. Even elite level veterans are having this issue. The LEO field is no longer looking for physical fitness and courage. It's mostly a customer service based field now, because that's what Americans wants.

[@DortonFarb]

Anyone can join the military. Law enforcement has standards.

[@defiant415]

@@DortonFarb your right. Im guessing they hand out those security clearances like candy.

[@RegimentJoker]

I make 119k in Illinois base pay as a cop. Come remotely close to that and I'll come tomorrow. Your houses cost more than ours and suck way more. What you pay your cops is beyond laughable. You need to come up to 110k minimum before you fix this garbage.

[@STeroidsnicca]

$110k in florida is police chief salary goodluck with that.

[@deebee4575]

When you treat criminals better than cops then release criminals, who wants that job? Worst job in the country.

[@rayzee7561]

With everyone having a camera in their phone now days, the police cannot get away with the unlawful things they were getting away with for the past 200 years. Accountability is key to the older guys leaving for retirement and better paying jobs at private firms. I know a state cop who is running security at a casino, those jobs pay. LE job pay is in line with my barbers annual income.

[@deebee4575]

Body cams have exonerated far more cops than the reverse.

[@Bigsloppy903]

​@@deebee4575 exactly! Body cams have been more of a benefit for police.

[@deebee4575]

@@Bigsloppy903 Yup.

[@connorcostabile2810]

Pay law enforcement more simple

[@Gurn_Blanston]

Amen.

[@MeBihhhh]

More? How much?😂

[@Gurn_Blanston]

@brovro6732 They should be getting paid about twice what they're currently getting paid. The current BSO payscale for deputies is about $60K-$100K. They should be getting $120K-$200K for their base salary. And those agencies should start offering REAL signing bonuses. $5K is nothing. They should be offering $25K signing bonuses. Many agencies elsewhere, are offering starting wages in excess of $100K, in addition to signing bonuses of up to $75K. As an FTO (Field Training Officer) elsewhere, I can't remember the last time I saw a rookie make less than $100K their first year on the road. As a patrol officer, I've earned over $100K in four months and $250K in nine months. I was on track for a $335K year, but I retired nine months into 2019. And that's nothing- Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@J91Y]

REMOVE THE POLYGRAPH! then you’d have more applicants irs quack science

[@DortonFarb]

No good officer wants to work alongside someone who can't pass a poly.

[@ron.247]

You go through hell just trying to make it through the application process. You can fail a polygraph for having an irregular heartbeat. Be disqualified without any criminal convictions or for a bullsh!t write-up from a previous job to say the least. The process alone is discouraging and let’s not talk about the pay.

[@adamriddles]

pay is way to high for a mere diploma and so little training. If it was dangerous like military or firefighting then yeah. But LEO is BARELY ranked top 20 at 19th in dangerous jobs. Most officers killed in the line of duty in a violent manner bring it on themselves due to bad judgement, or a lack of situational awareness. If they were out there getting gunned down by criminals I would understand. But they arent. That's Hollywood hype.

[@DortonFarb]

​@@adamriddles Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area.

[@adamriddles]

@@DortonFarb as former military with a combat mos background, a father and uncle whom both are on the fallen officer memorial....yeah. I'm clueless my guy.

[@notdave2993]

Yeah it is. Florida also makes it more difficult on themselves with all that. I started with Fort Lauderdale PD and left them for a different state. Same pay, better benefits and cheaper cost of living. Plus the culture at my new agency is more friendly to veterans. I never truly felt welcomed in Florida.

[@lordjael]

Nationally, many agencies flat out disqualify candidates for the most minor infractions. Applying currently is much different than what it once was because now agencies will run credit, check all social media pages, your KZbin, and more. There is more room for error as an applicant now whereas in the past prior to so much technology, sub par and risky applicants could slide by. There is a catch 22 though because these are the exact same officers that have been being shady and making such poor decisions for so long that they are unaccustomed on how to deal with the public. They even behave criminally on body cam simply because it is so new to them since body cams weren't standardized nationwide until 2017. Soon, America won't have enough thorough police to protect their citizens and it will be no one else's fault but their own.

[@jasielm5258]

Sounds like they want yes men who will execute any order. This is why i HATE the police.

[@DortonFarb]

Seek competent professional mental health care.

[@lordjael]

@@DortonFarb Likewise.

[@DortonFarb]

@lordjael I have passed EXTENSIVE psychological testing and evaluation required by The Job, that you will NEVER pass.

[@lordjael]

@@DortonFarb Bud, I've been with Dallas PD (Central Division) for the past 4 years. The psych test isn't extensive whatsoever. You took a 5-month course just like the rest of us to learn defensive tactics, penal code, state statutes, EVOC, firearms quals, and CIT. Please stop. "Extensive". 😂 Okay.

[@pauliewalnuts2109]

Polygraph is a silly requirement

[@DortonFarb]

No good officer wants to work alongside someone who can't pass a poly.

[@pauliewalnuts2109]

@@DortonFarb yeah… I don’t think a polygraph is indicative of the kind of officer you are or your character. It’s a money grab.

[@DortonFarb]

@pauliewalnuts2109 Obviously you have zero professional training, knowledge, experience, or skills in this area. I don't have ANY of those problems. The poly is one of many steps in the vetting process. And applicants have to pass ALL of them.

[@pauliewalnuts2109]

@@DortonFarb .. sure thing

[@griffin0010]

Probably because every department finds one reason or another to disqualify applicants for any reason. Considering all of the professional misconduct, and financial and family troubles police officers have to doesn't seem like their vetting process works very well. The biggest problem is the people making the hiring decisions all joined twenty years ago when they had to be the “top” applicant and only a few were chosen from the hundreds. Now the profession is dead and no one wants the job but, they live in this false reality that “the standards shouldn't change”.

[@michaelquinn7710]

I hear ya on that one, I been trying to get hired for nearly a year and a failed polygraph or BS about work historry which is not a big deal at all, this is one of the reasons there is a shortage.

[@defiant415]

@@michaelquinn7710 A lot of it is all who you know, or so I "hear".

[@michaelquinn7710]

@@defiant415 No thats not the case, I have friends in different agencies, that doesn't work anymore!!

[@defiant415]

@@michaelquinn7710 Sure, next time you go to an academy graduation, look around and see who was self- sponsored and who was sponsored.

[@michaelquinn7710]

@@defiant415 I went to the police academy and most of my class was self sponsored, 3 were sponsored and before graduation, 3 more got picked up, dozen of my classmates still haven't been hired.

[@carloseperezmontes2462]

Thanks the Democrats... the "Hug A Thug" lawless party.

[@justinhearst]

You mean Republicans in a republican state?? Nice try though

[@notdave2993]

But this is almost exclusively the police departments own fault. Just read some of the comments here about how they can’t get hired even as well qualified applicants with no criminal history. The departments are only acting like they’re short handed. This is a ploy for more funding and nothing more.

[@bradbrown7273]

One pay 2 it's a thankless job and the amount of stress cops are under day to day

[@burgundygt]

They don’t pay enough. I know a Florida State Trooper that is in the same situation. It is said that Florida is a law and order state, but those salaries don’t reflect that.

[@wtf1231122]

Tell desantis to do another press conference, where he invites police from other states

[@benjaminfranklin9164]

Nobody cares

[@elifield7149]

Yet here you are

[@patrickm7754]

The salaries are horrible and you disqualify recruits for being within 100 yards of Coke when they were 21 lmao

[@notdave2993]

I’m a cop in a different state and thought about moving down there. But pay was the same as I’m getting now with a much higher cost of living and the agencies are so full of themselves and turn away most of their qualified applicants. They brought this shortage on themselves if you ask me.

[@Sleetstream]

The pay is too low for people to even risk their life on the line of duty.

[@DortonFarb]

Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019- look it up.

[@ZBo-tw2ri]

@@DortonFarbI’m sure it’s forced overtime lol relax they don’t paid that much

[@DortonFarb]

@@ZBo-tw2ri Can you translate that into English?

[@CuckimusMaximus]

All of the departments want Absoltuely squeaky clean records , credit history and pretty much to be a robot with not one flaw. No wonder why they are hurting so much due to their unrealistically idiotic hiring standards

[@DortonFarb]

Wrong. Hiring standards have never been lower. If you can't get hired in 2024, there's something wrong with you.

[@richardwolfe7764]

When you see 4/5 police cars show up for one speeder. You are not short on staff.. one person holding a sign asking for food or change. And 5 cops start pressing him. You don't need more uneducated cops on an already overwhelmed budget.

[@Bigsloppy903]

Traffic stops are some of the most dangerous situations for police. And dealing with unstable crazy homeless? Of course. That's why they show up in force.

[@redpilledpatriot6868]

Private sector pays more.

[@DortonFarb]

Lol. Oakland patrol officer Malcolm Miller earned over $640K in 2019.

[@billscreations1999]

People dont want a job where they might have to throw people into prison for things they shouldnt be in prison for.

[@DortonFarb]

Only criminals say that...

[@JCchadcel]

Former combat veteran with stellar credit, good job, no mental health or major issues, fit and stable yet get denied dude to an auto loan charge off from 6 years ago that’s 5k Guess that’s what it takes to be a cop , unrealistic standards

[@michaelquinn7710]

Been trying to apply for nearly a year, tell me about it!!!

[@DortonFarb]

Integrity matters in this profession. Stiffing someone that you gave your word to pay back, is the opposite of integrity.

[@notdave2993]

Just keep trying bro. It took me a long time to get hired but once I did, it was worth it. Try looking out of state or something. I started in Florida and now I’m in Alaska! Cold af but I get treated well by my agency.

[@wachirarisky4284]

😶Let people police themselves. Let's see if we really need them or we are just paying extra unnecessary Taxes. I can't remember a time in my life where I had to call one. I don't even call them for a car accident I call my insurance

[@bruvduv4578]

Yea lets see how well that works bozo

[@ZBo-tw2ri]

@@bruvduv4578someone breaks into your moms home with a gun at 350 in the morning while you’re sleeping . Whose gonna come and help her? You? Lol

[@bruvduv4578]

@@ZBo-tw2ri Yea because I wont hear my door get kicked down

[@bruvduv4578]

@@ZBo-tw2ri Im grabbing the ar-15 and having the cops on the way, and what about armed robbery? whos gonna deal with that? or what about people who dont wanna carry a gun and get mugged? they are gonna call the police to do something. Most people dont have time to go hunt down the dude who just robbed them or go find there stolen car nor want to risk their life for it

[@bruvduv4578]

@@ZBo-tw2ri What if there is a person outside a Walmart harassing people, not getting really violent but a bit handsy and wont leave? You cant shoot him because hes not being violent , but you would have the police trespass him.

[@StephenHarbison-bn6wd]

I'd move down tomorrow and work for them, but they can't match my 100,000 a year.

[@bradmccoy7996]

Law enforcement has become like false Preachers,

[@JustiPp-dz5nu]

Leader ship is a joke . Some of these departments are so trash . All by design .

[@rodcarew1353]

Most police officers can make close to 100k their first year with overtime and detail work. Not to mention full benefits and a pension. People don’t know wth they’re talking about.

[@griffin0010]

No cop makes 100K their first year in Florida. Maybe in New York or California, a lot of agencies don't have pensions anymore only 401Ks. Plus many departments make you buy health insurance.

[@rodcarew1353]

@@griffin0010 made 92k first year with full benefits and a pension. Live in south fl, any agency worth working for has a free good health insurance policy and pension plan. Starting pay was 67k a year. Every agency I applied for down here had all the above mentioned.

[@LeeeroyJenkins]

Plenty of jobs make 100k if they allowed them to work 18 hours a day. You're acting like they work 50 hours a week instead of 40 and make 100k. They work 80+ hours a WEEK. Of course they can make 100k.

[@rodcarew1353]

@@LeeeroyJenkins a regular work week for a police officer is less than 50 hours a week. If u want to make 6 figures then ya you have to work more. Not to mention their regular work week is only 4 days so you have 3 days off. After a few years on the force your making close to 100k with no overtime. Every cop I’ve ever know is very comfortable. You can be in denial if you want.

[@AntonioMaceoTitanDeBronce]

Your biggest recruiters are the officers themselves … and cops from every department will be the first to tell people to not join, that they can’t do the job anymore and Body Worn Cameras were the whining of the death of the job…

[@MrLoso0204]

Pay, lack of backing from their leaders, hated on both sides from the city you work for and the ignorant people with cameras is the problem

[@jmill5995]

Bump the pay and ditch the poly

[@J91Y]

facts

[@DortonFarb]

Good cops don't want to work alongside people who can't pass a poly.

[@6time686]

@@DortonFarb Yet somehow they still slide through.

[@davidgaitho3633]

Your governer will sign a bill if you get spotted outside, you must be a cop by force

[@dennisquinn4387]

No issues in my local cities or counties in central Florida. Support your POlice instead of your criminals and mebbe It'll fix itself, not rocket science.

[@taalboss]

Make the average salary 80k and up, all those upper rank officers with 20,25 or 30 years of service make them retire so others can get promoted and people moves up. 😂😂😂

[@trirail812productions8]

good luck in floirda floirda is only for the ritch preaty much

[@DIAMONDM.]

How much does cellphone/land lines charge a month for emergency services 🤔

[@pvoeg6413]

I’ll hard pass on that, lol been offered so many times.

[@Gurn-xh5fg]

Huh?

[@DortonFarb]

What have you been "offered"?

[@pvoeg6413]

@@DortonFarb to go into law enforcement lol

[@DortonFarb]

@@pvoeg6413 In order to be offered a position in law enforcement, you first have to apply for it. So you're trying to tell us that you'll pass on "so many" jobs that you've applied for? Your story would be much more believable if you were telling us that you applied to many agencies and they passed on you.

[@pvoeg6413]

@@DortonFarb is you dumb ? I’ve had countless of cops tell me to go in and they recommend their agencies. Go play with ur rental car bud.

[@ATR_Team61]

Well with ‘Requirements’ like ‘ must have at least GED ‘, I’m sure they can find a vast amount of losers in Miami to join 😂😂😂

[@DortonFarb]

In REALITY, there are very few people walking the face of the earth that can do what we do. That's why virtually all law enforcement agencies are dangerously short-staffed, even when offering starting wages in excess of $100K and signing bonuses of up to $75K.

[@sophalopha]

well you start to feel useless when you risk your life arresting a criminal and they get let back out to murder someone. court system and judges need to change. they also need to hire based on merit, not on sex or skin color

[@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808]

*Recruit officers from CHI, DET & PHI, those cities have made it clear they do not want cops.*

[@MeBihhhh]

And yet it’s this republican county that can’t hire and keep their officers…. Common sense would tell you the media that spoon fed that bs to you is wrong but it’s on you to realize that 😂

[@bruceyung70]

Thugs are crazy nowadays. It’s more dangerous to deal with thugs.

[@Ph4r4oh_444g]

Well, I'm moving to Florida for this exact reason so I guess this is to my benefit, but this is terrible for the actual communities that are in this predicament.

[@notdave2993]

Funny. I left Florida for this reason. They turn away so many good applicants then wonder why nobody wants to apply anymore. Left for the west and haven’t looked back! Plenty of other states that need cops and won’t mess around with your application.

[@LittleMuscledBeast36]

Florida makes a lot of money in tourism, the governor needs to increase the salary in every police department, it is a joke what the police gets paid here for risking their Lifes, when you see security officers making more money than a police officer that's crazy. Police salary should start above the 70k a year minimum.

[@defiant415]

That all sounds good and I agree but you also don't want someone in the job, who is only in it for the salary. A high salary may start attracting the wrong type of candidates.

[@gabrieldunn8065]

@@defiant415that’s where the intense vetting process becomes justified. Keep in mind the hiring process takes months, academy is 6 months, and probationary period is 1 year on top of all that. It’s highly unlikely someone will invest nearly 2 years into a career only for the money and they’re still at the bottom of the barrel.

[@MeBihhhh]

If you think 2 years is a long investment then I assume you’re working at McDonald’s 😂 You kids these days couldn’t do 2 min if it required work

[@notdave2993]

But the governor doesn’t control local Police salaries. The county or city does. He can only help the highway patrols pay.

[@MeBihhhh]

@@notdave2993 desantis is terrible. Time to get off the plantation there sheep

[@ingodwetrustdellaware-inc8322]

Coral Gable is very small town.. I used to live near by SW 67 Missed Miami..

[@setatsdetinu3704]

Tooooo many cops already. On every corner you turn doing nothing parked opposite directions drinking coffee chilling.

[@elifield7149]

Oooooookkkk

[@setatsdetinu3704]

@@elifield7149 says the guy with a playlist titled memorial obsessed with the military and wars 😭😭😭😭 How's that working out for you bud🤔 you're obviously single with no kids and somebody's folded flag in a frame on your wall. You drink your self to sleep with a replica of your former service weapon unh ???? 😂 I'm soaking in your misery soldier😭 10:4 copy I need a Roger that on the stat.

[@setatsdetinu3704]

@@elifield7149 says the guy with a playlist titled memorial full or wars and violence. 😭😭😭I know your story. No wife no kids a folded flag in a frame on your wall. You drink and cry yourself to sleep at night waiting for another order. I need you to Roger this soldier and copy me on the stat. Turn in any service weapon ever issued to you and seek immediate counsel son you are on the verge of what I call self deletion. They're people that can help a miserable wreck like yourself ✌🏾👏🏾

[@Kevincamargo239]

Let me be a cop

[@matthewwest7906]

I think if agencies also made the hiring process a little easier then they could get more people

[@DortonFarb]

Lowering law enforcement hiring standards is an apocalyptically bad idea. Good cops would rather work massive amounts of overtime to cover all the holes in the schedule, than have to work with substandard applicants.

[@NinjaCat-jg4sx]

They becoming security guards for more money

[@CarlosRamirez-no2js]

And it’s safer, I’m sitting on my phone at a dispensary as I type this

[@tyw2675]

The hiring process is a complete joke. They try to dig into every last little irrelevant detail of your life, and if they find something they just don’t like, they don’t hire you. Then turn around and hire people who are not actually fit for the job.

[@Kiryu]

Exactly right. I’m a combat veteran with NO criminal record, no history of substance use, Outstanding credit, I’ve passed drug testing, physical, written, medical, psychological testing and more over the last 7 years and I’ve been dropped for the stupidest reasons. Last year I applied to the Indiana State Police and got dropped from the hiring process at the polygraph because I told the administrator when he asked me about my military service that under NO circumstances would I obey an unlawful, immoral, or unconstitutional order regardless of who it came from. I was then accused of being a “deceptive, drug dealing, drunk” who couldn’t be trusted with public safety, but if I wanted to, I could apply again in three years.

[@CuckimusMaximus]

They will reject the incredibly resilient hardened combat veteran who made a mistake or two that’s nowhere near disqualifying to take a dude who’s a complete snowflake only because he has a squeaky clean record after living with his mom for 23 years and has an associates degree from a sham criminal justice degrre. No wonder why they can’t hire anyone unrealistic standards

[@michaelquinn7710]

Been trying to apply for nearly a year, tell me about it!!!

[@DortonFarb]

​​@@Kiryu Liar. Applicants are never told the reason they failed the poly. The poly results are submitted up the chain of command, and the applicant is then advised whether they are not selected, disqualified, or eligible to advance to the next step in the vetting process.

[@Kiryu]

@@DortonFarb you’re the one who’s lying because I have it straight from the Indiana State police captain’s mouth for the southern precinct that resides on the border between Indiana and Kentucky.

[@bradwelljackson6385]

Is it true that, less than 5 years ago, there were some people calling to "defund the police"? According to these individuals, should there be even more police vacancies? If the amount of police vacancies increased substantially, how would this be a good thing, according to the "defund the police" model? If it is a good thing, then should society welcome even more police vacancies?

[@adolfomclovin7082]

Let police smoke weed off duty. Alot of people use thc occasionally and they are discriminated because of that.

[@DortonFarb]

Lol, no. Federal AND state laws prohibit users of illegal drugs from possessing firearms. It's a FELONY under both federal AND state laws, for the users of illegal drugs to possess firearms. Criminals can't be cops. Especially felons and/or those who can't legally possess firearms.

[@osvaldoandycalderin2136]

I remember dedicating my life to passing the civil service exam to get put on a waitlist for two years, just to be asked to take the exam again lmaooo this is when I lost my dream of becoming a homocide detective

[@Gurn-xh5fg]

Try working on your spelling skills. What the heck is "homocide"? 😂

[@DortonFarb]

​@@Gurn-xh5fg It sounds like a made-up word describing the killing of homos.

[@nightshiftregulator1836]

Who let me stop you right there chief… the reasons departs are short officers do no vary. The reason is their leadership is toxic, the police are over disciplined, and discrimination (of all kinds) runs rampant. I’ll be happy to point you in the direction to look if you care to expand on this story and report actual news.

[@DortonFarb]

Can you translate your verbal diarrhea into English?

[@merrynichols1514]

These are professionals and should be paid so much more. They are so disrespected and their lives are on the line more than ever.

[@Evyann305]

👍 100% on point

[@ricky7973]

Cops get as much respect as a substitute art teacher, or a stop sign in miami.

[@michaelgarcia5376]

I promise it's not about the money.

[@Gurn_Blanston]

The problem is Democrats. The solution will require higher pay- a LOT higher.

[@ejmtnt]

Try backing your blue and pay them well you cheapskates

[@Kyroosex2]

I’ve ALWAYS WANTED TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER 😢BUT I CANT PASS FREAKING MATH ON MY GED 🥴😩😩 I don’t have a record nothing !!! HIRE ME 🥹 I love helping ppl I’m 6’0, athletic, healthy. I can pass the physical exam, classroom exams I swear I’d be the best police officer ever 🥹😩🙏

[@DortonFarb]

Math is an important part of law enforcement. The Job is not for everyone. It doesn't mean you're a bad person, it just means you can't be a cop.

[@iRider79]

If you have a shortage, you have plenty of money to increase the salaries. Raise the pay, and watch them start pouring in. Stop making silly assumptions as to why ppl don’t want to enlist. Better to have higher wages with a reasonable increase of officers than lower wages with vast vacancies statewide.

[@teevee2145]

Who wants to join the criminals with badges club??

[@E46_wagonlover]

Well given the fact you need a bachelors degree or military service that definitely excludes a lot of people

[@DortonFarb]

Many agencies don't require any of that. I got hired with just a GED.

[@E46_wagonlover]

@@DortonFarb okay I just know that when I was looking into it my local PD said you needed a bachelors or have served. BSO and CSPD as far as I know have that standard. But that was 4-5 years ago maybe it changed.

[@DortonFarb]

@@E46_wagonlover So find another department.

[@PhilG182]

Thank God that we have our 2nd Amendment.🙏