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@MilitaryAviationHistory3 жыл бұрын
What he said!
@ALMdawgfan3 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual!
@vladimpaler34983 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was very informative. The USSR clearly was aware of this vehicles effectiveness and had studied it carefully, down to the tactics, including resupply in the field. By 1943 the Red Army must have also understood how vulnerable the armor was without soldiers. I would guess by this point in the war they had not been able to study the Stug tactics in retreat or defense? Only attack. It would be interesting to see the manual in late '44.
@nicolasheung4413 жыл бұрын
I do remember seeing a surviving SU-76i (a rearmed StuG with a 76.2mm tank gun) in the Victory Park of Moscow. They sure studied the StuG through and through.
@messinberver46833 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasheung441 Correction: The SU-76i was not derived from the StuG III, but rather from the Panzer III hull.
@Able5423 жыл бұрын
@@messinberver4683 Impossible. Nothing but a StuG could handle the sheer power of the 76.2mm gun. Believe it from me, an incredibly ignorant shitposter.
@yeetboiiiiii24883 жыл бұрын
@@Able542 you do know that stug = Pz3 with Thicc gun?
@Able5423 жыл бұрын
@@yeetboiiiiii2488 That's a popular misconception among historians, mechanics, curators, and experts, so I can see how you think that.
@robertmills86403 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Soviets considered all gun armed,non-tanks such as the various Marders as assault guns. Much more vulnerable to various attacks than a stug.
@lewcrowley37102 жыл бұрын
Maybe not.
@HistoryOfRevolutions3 жыл бұрын
Ivan Turganev once wrote: "Forward while you can, but if your strength fails you, sit down near the road and gaze without anger or envy at those who pass by. They don't have far to go, either"
@raylast38739 ай бұрын
Berlin isn’t far at all.
@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
“Orders, Commissar?” “Boog the StuG”
@Scientist1183 жыл бұрын
I got an argument regarding anti-tank tactics by the Soviets and this video's timing is perfect. Good stuff to see.
@Parkourboy863 жыл бұрын
What kind of conversations are you having
@Easy-Eight3 жыл бұрын
The speaker does not know the difference between a time delay and a time fuse. If you see a target the time shell is set to explode 20 meters over it. The air-burst artillery shrapnel cuts down people around the vehicle.
@anotherfriendlyshikikan69603 жыл бұрын
But did you win?
@snugglecity35003 жыл бұрын
@@Parkourboy86 its quite easy to get into converstions like that.
@stann.44432 жыл бұрын
@@Parkourboy86 one conversation of cultured people
@eshelly45773 жыл бұрын
My Opa was in the 8th Panzer Division as a panzerjager. He started with a towed PAK. Went to the Marder..Then got the Panzerjager 4. L/70. He loved that gun..they would tuck it along the flanks. He said it was so low it was hard to spot..
@lewcrowley37102 жыл бұрын
What was his name? Issue of that L70 is well known BTW.
@jimmylight48662 жыл бұрын
L/70 was lethal.
@stalkingtiger7773 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your book
@88porpoise3 жыл бұрын
With the reference to timed fuzes, are you sure they mean time delayed impact fuses and not fuzes timed to detonate as airbursts? I don't know if that type of fuses were used by the Soviets at that time (although the concept was over a century old by then). The combination of shells detonating on impact to hit the vehicles and airbursts to spray fragments on the infantry makes sense.
@tokencivilian85073 жыл бұрын
^^^ - this question. SY beat me to it. Airburst artillery is devastating to soft targets in the open.
@peterstickney76083 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing - my files show that among the fuze options for the ZIS-3 gun's projectiles, in addition to "normal" Impact and Impact Delay fuzes, there was a Point Detonating/Timed Fuze as well. These would, hopefully fire when the timer's pyrotechnic train hit its set velue, or, if something got in the way, on impact. HE and airburst artillery would make being outside the Stug very dangerous - stripping away the Stug's supporting units.
@SlavicCelery3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I assumed the timed fuse is for airburst. It makes sense to use those in conjunction with impact fuses. As standard shrapnel isn't effective against vehicles.
@jamesbparkin7403 жыл бұрын
@@tokencivilian8507 Likewise It was only the Western Allies who had proximity fuses to do that with little calculation.
@uegvdczuVF3 жыл бұрын
Timed fuses were available to every major power even in WW1. And i don't mean post impact time delay.
@chrislarrabee3743 жыл бұрын
An informative article--thank you for providing it. One comment, though, speaking as an artillery officer: when the Soviet translation refers to engaging Stugs with a combination of HE and time fused rounds, I think what might be intended for is a mix of PD (point detonation, or impact fused) HE rounds--which might penetrate or immobilize a Stug with a direct hit or near miss--and time fused (NOT time-delay) HE rounds set for aerial burst--which would force the Stugs to button up (decreasing effectiveness) and cause casualties among accompanying infantry and engineers. Artillery is still trained to engage armor with direct fire HE rounds if the threat is too close for the guns to safely displace, but not something to be warmly anticipated.
@00yiggdrasill003 жыл бұрын
I love that you have done enough material that you can use it as a reference for us to get more detail on particular parts.
@stevewright45763 жыл бұрын
Your accent is wonderful! It makes me feel more engaged with the topic. I appreciate the in depth analyze of the Stug, awesome vehicle obviously feared by Soviets!
@infoscholar52213 жыл бұрын
This is a most excellent channel for in-depth WWII analysis. I'm pleased to have found you. Sehr gute Fakten und Analysen.
@ww2hungary8273 жыл бұрын
0:50. Along similar lines, the Soviets enacted order No. 0528 on 1 July 1942 offering 'bonuses' to those tank crews which managed to destroy enemy tanks. The commander and gunner would receive 500 Rubles while the rest of the crew would receive 200.
@michimatsch58623 жыл бұрын
6:12 They are not dug in but StuG in.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
lol
@michimatsch58623 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized I clearly watched too much Rangroo.
@chrislarrabee3743 жыл бұрын
An edit to my previous comment. Ricochet fire (deliberately bouncing rounds off the ground) apparently was a tactic known and used to some greater/lesser extent by tank/artillery crews of Germany, the USSR, the UK, and the US. In the artillery's case, the object normally is to fire a delayed PD fused round hoping that the bounce will activate the fuse and achieve an air burst. This tactic reasonably could be used to make up for a shortage of time fuses, but would be completely unnecessary were time fuses or the later US developed proximity fuses available. There are accounts in the literature of tanks employing this firing method against protected soft targets (such as trenches), but this would seem the exception due to the skill and ground characteristics required for such high velocity, low trajectory fire. I am intrigued and will conduct further research.
@terruwuism3 жыл бұрын
Maybe timed delayed fuzes are meant to riccochet of the StuG itself, to effect any accompanying Infantry, beside and especially behind it. In this case, if hit in the front, the angled front of the stug would make russian delayed impact shells expolde a bit above and behind the vehicle, thus clearing infantry seeking shelter behind it.
@michaelwilliamson13923 жыл бұрын
I believe that the time fused weapons were not delayed detonation after impact, but rather the timer was from firing in order to result in an airburst. This was to increase the effect of shrapnel against troops in the open, and also against vehicles with no or limited top protection. The introduction of the proximity fuse (also known as the variable-time, or VT fuse) allowed for much more effective use of this tactic. Edit - as noted already by previous posters.
@ElHombreGato3 жыл бұрын
OMG thank you KZbin for recommending this video. I Absolutely LOVE your other channel and have wondered what you looked like for so long lol! Now I know lol
@daves25203 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel - thank you for the content.
@AL3NOD13 жыл бұрын
The Stug Is one of the German tanks that excelled in both Quantity and Quality and that is one of the reasons I love it.
@michimatsch58623 жыл бұрын
Ptrs go pew lol.
@narodwpsanialy19403 жыл бұрын
@@michimatsch5862 Sideskirts go boing lol.
@chudthug3 жыл бұрын
Also look cool 👍
@cnlbenmc3 жыл бұрын
Except it ain't a tank...
@michimatsch58623 жыл бұрын
@@cnlbenmc We all know that, but it was used similarly to a tank.
@pauln26613 жыл бұрын
As a Guess, Time Delay fuse. Breaking up the soil in front of the Assault guns. As you note, this can get a AG stuck or cause one to throw a track. Another thing, this causes the AGs to drive around shell craters, having a dual effect of exposing the thinner side armor, and the Stug is unable to keep aim on a target (bunker).
@chuckcrosby80453 жыл бұрын
I believe the confusion results from a language translation issue and artillery fuse unfamiliarity with the host. The German manual recommends a mix of HE and time fused rounds. The time fused rounds are meant to explode about 10 meters prior to impact, so they shower the Infantry below with a wide pattern of shrapnel. They are different from time delay, which would act as the host describes. The time fuse alternating with HE would affect both Infantry and armored vehicles. Overall, the host does a really good job, so I commend him for this video.
@billskinner6233 жыл бұрын
Air bursts are very effective against troops in the open, Also, assault guns were more than just the StuG III and IV. Most of the German assault guns were repurposed open topped tanks. And air burst over one of those would very effective.
@NaturalLanguageLearning3 жыл бұрын
Those are Panzerjäger, not assault guns. Different branch, name and mission. And the Stugs/Stuhs were by far the most numerous turretless armoured fighting vehicles of the Wehrmacht.
@tanfosbery11532 жыл бұрын
I think you're assumption regarding time delay shells occasionally penetrating the thin roof armour may be correct as I seem to recall American Shermans in the Pacific were using HE against Japanese tanks as normal AP was often passing straight through both sides of the tank with little noticeable effect
@velcro82232 жыл бұрын
A time fuse probably refers to a fuse started on firing. Ie. a shrapnel round. I don't believe time delay would refer to delay from impact. This means the combination of time delay and impact is probably meant to be anti-infantry and anti armor.
@sparkieT883 жыл бұрын
Oh a new stug life video
@UnintentionalSubmarine3 жыл бұрын
Something I have long wondered about, is the reverse angled plate on the back some of the StuG IIIs' casemates. Now, I can speculate on why that is, but it is just that, speculation. Is there perhaps some information somewhere that explains this to a relatively certain degree? Or perhaps this might be worth a sub-point of another StuG video in the future?
@HeilAmarth3 жыл бұрын
Even these days, if you'd hit a modern tank with a 155mm HE round (43.2 kg or 95 lbs) the tank will be seriously damaged or knocked out by sheer volume of the blast, with every living thing in close proximity killed. That is, if you can score a direct hit on a modern tank, which is whole different story. Smaller calibers probably did the job for 2 WW era tanks, especially for turretless tanks that preferred to shoot while stationary.
@razorboy2513 жыл бұрын
Hehehehe, "At first Glantz" - I see what you did there!
@Chiller013 жыл бұрын
I’ve wondered if I’d rather have been a German tank crewman or a Stug crewman. I have no idea what the actual survivability stats are but the low profile and maneuverability make the Stug look attractive.
@edi98923 жыл бұрын
Plus, they were either fire support from further back, or ambushing enemies. In these roles you'd be much safer than in an advancing tank... A minor aspect is that tanks often take longer to evacuate due to the turret height and the position of the barrel.
@brokeandtired3 жыл бұрын
Its a German vehicle....even if you survived you faced a miserable post war. Also the Nazis used up their divisions till they were bled to death.....You didn't get to retire after you served a tour. You shouldn't have wanted to be in the German army full stop....Given a choice I would take a trip to Mexico in 1938 or earlier.
@edi98923 жыл бұрын
@@brokeandtired My grandfather narrowly escaped Stalingrad by getting shot in the outskirts and sent back home... I really liked this guy, but he was a complete opportunist. If he had the money he would have done that, but like many people at the time, he was piss poor. Joining the army was the only thing that allowed him to get any education!
@gwtpictgwtpict42143 жыл бұрын
@@edi9892 Shot in the outskirts? Sounds painful.
@edi98923 жыл бұрын
@@gwtpictgwtpict4214 He was shot in the chest on the outskirts of the city. LOL This was not his worst injury though. He was sent to Normandie when he recovered and had a bomb dropped next to him. I have no idea how he made it out of there alive! He was knocked over by the blast and had multiple wounds from shrapnel and he continued fighting! He later saw an opportunity to surrender to a British unit and they actually sent him to a field hospital. They removed most of the metal pieces, but even later doctors failed to remove a metal piece from his brain. He lived with it for over 70 years.
@MGB-learning3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video and presentation.
@catified20813 жыл бұрын
Maybe the combo was used to kill the experienced crew and not just take out the stug?
@sweetreamer51013 жыл бұрын
Anti-stug tactics? You cannot stop the stug. The stug is eternal. When the heat death of the universe occurs, a stug will be still be defending the fatherland. Surrender to the stug, and pray for mercy; that is the only tactic available.
@jebatevrana3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@ErokLobotomist3 жыл бұрын
Now we need a video of German Tactics for fighting the SU-76i and the SG-122 lol
@MarvinT06063 жыл бұрын
as a War Thunder player, this is of great value for dealing with those camping pests
@gsonz1723 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in War Thunder the StuG III G (and StuH 42G) have pretty tough frontal armor.
@alexkudov76699 ай бұрын
The main way to protect tanks was to move in ravines. Half of the veterans in the USSR talk about the factors of tank survival: ravines, speed and fire. There are a lot of ravines in the European part of Russia. 53-OF-350 fuse has two positions - "O" fragmentation and "F" high explosive. In the "F" position, it penetrates 2 meters of soil and should hit targets well in ravines. By the way, high-explosive fuse is better for destroying tracks. German and Soviet gunners often shot down the tracks, conducted disturbing fire on damaged targets and then finished off them. Although I would pay attention to the 53-Sh-354 shrapnel, but I will have to change the tip all the time.
@georgeferguson71143 жыл бұрын
Nice one! Good to see the thinking behind the action.
@JohanKlein3 жыл бұрын
"...additionally it gives away the position of anti-tank gun, which is generally rather unhealthy for the gun crews". Quiet an enjoyable sample of dark humour that is. Something very close to jokes Sergei Shumakov has in his videos.
@54032Zepol3 жыл бұрын
You don't choose the stug life , the stug life chooses you
@BigboiiTone3 жыл бұрын
No one here has made that joke before including the poster my mind is blown!
@54032Zepol3 жыл бұрын
@@BigboiiTone wow I couldn't swore i saw this on some reddit forum
@BigboiiTone3 жыл бұрын
@@54032Zepol could be brother
@Gorilla_Jones2 жыл бұрын
@@BigboiiTone shaddup
@BigboiiTone2 жыл бұрын
@@Gorilla_Jones no u
@mattw7853 жыл бұрын
These vids are great! please keep up!
@Bendejo3013 жыл бұрын
Love it, brother! Keep the good stuff coming!
@user-tc9sk4ei9y3 жыл бұрын
Actually, as far as I know, any armoured target was intended to be fired at with a fuse set to delay. Probably delayed detonation causes more damage to armored targets in general
@lewcrowley37102 жыл бұрын
Actually...no
@frankgulla23353 жыл бұрын
Very informative and thoughtful.
@dlifedt3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa, in winter 45: rolled his zis3 from behind house, took it out with 1 shot. (Prolly wouldn’t have gotten a second)
@blorblor54383 жыл бұрын
Once a german veteran (who had to control goliaths out of a Panzer III) told me how frightening it was when they came under mortar fire. He said "Auch im Panzer sind sie da so klein mit Hut" ("Also inside of the Tank you are that small - with a hat"), while showing one or two centimeters between his thumb and index finger. Maybe shells bursting in the air rather than in the ground would even increase the demoralising and disrupting effect on the men inside the StuGs?
@grumbazor3 жыл бұрын
StuGs getting stucked is my new Lieblingssatz
@501Mobius3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why the ZiS-3 would be excluded in this. It was used in many anti-tank situations. And it's 76.2mm shell would have better HE and frag than the 57mm and 45mm anti-tank guns.
@jameslayton15603 жыл бұрын
It is mentioned right? Near the start?
@501Mobius3 жыл бұрын
@@jameslayton1560 It's mentioned but it isn't considered an AT gun. But, Russians did use it on some AT testing.
@paganshredhead5993 жыл бұрын
@@501Mobius It's not considered an AT gun BC it wasn't an AT gun, just as the German Flak 88 wasn't considered an AT gun, BC it wasn't an AT gun. Being used in that role doesn't make it one. You need to listen better.
@501Mobius3 жыл бұрын
@@paganshredhead599 You ought to think better.
@88porpoise3 жыл бұрын
@@501Mobius It wasn't an AT gun doesn't mean it wasn't used as an AT gun, it absolutely was and quite effectively. Similarly the British equivalent, the 25-pounder, proved quite adept at at destroying tanks when it needed to but is not an AT gun. And the US 105mm was absolutely capable of it although I don't know if it ever was used that way.
@fazole3 жыл бұрын
I listened to Guderian's memoirs and he claimed he pushed hard for the manufacture of more P-IVs and tank destroyers, which led to the Hetzer being invented it sounds like. So the "assault gun" became a defense gun. He also wanted them under the control of the Panzer Corps and not the Artillery like assault guns were.
@BAD_HOBO3 жыл бұрын
I found another pretty good Anti-StuG tactic Get a friend and a jeep and stick dynamite on the front. The more the merrier. The driver drives directly into the Stug without getting hit (most important) and the passenger detonates the explosives when close. Always, always, always shout "BATTLEFIELD!" just before detonation.
@ihatecabbage72703 жыл бұрын
If things were that easy in a simulation game, tanks are no match vs infantry. This feel like inconsequential as you can respawn.
@BAD_HOBO3 жыл бұрын
@@ihatecabbage7270 In Battlefield games 5 especially unless you're surrounded by friendly infantry tanks are pretty easy targets even if youre a competent tanker.
@JohanKlein3 жыл бұрын
Considering time delayed-fuses is it possible that it is said about the so-called "cavity armour-piercing projectiles" which are initiated by the armour and, when the penetration is achieved, explode inside the vehicle killing the crew like a grenade? Upd. For ZiS-3 БР-350А and БР-350Б were such rounds.
@danielaramburo76482 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Next week I’m going Stug hunting, this will help.
@Ocker33 жыл бұрын
Such high quality content :)
@user-YuHaoHuang3 жыл бұрын
two years ago I saw an artillery battalion of the ROC army using M2a1 guns, even with the original US ordnance stamps in it. LMAO
@SkinnerBeeMan3 жыл бұрын
Hot steel never gets old. The chicoms have the air tho. I think the war will be won in the air and end when nuclear weapons start flying.
@cheesewedge30153 жыл бұрын
Small little fact: the thumbnail is a destroyed stug from the Canadian war museum and dam that hole is big
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer3 жыл бұрын
HE will frequently kill or mission kill armored vehicles by penetrating the relatively thin armor of the roof and engine deck. Time fire kills the men in the open, including crews bailing out of disabled vehicles.
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer3 жыл бұрын
Modern anti tank missiles take advantage of thin roof armor by performing a pop-up maneuver. Once above the target the missiles fire a downward firing shaped charge.
@shanevanorder26443 жыл бұрын
Maybe the delay fuses where used in the shell sticks in the ground in hope that a stug drives over when the shell explodes blow the tank to bits
@scratchy9962 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought that too, like planting mines in the area of advance. But how long can you set the delay timer on the fuse to be ?
@FrostRare Жыл бұрын
“Drag the cannon over here Ivan” “You mean you want me to “drag” the ZiS 76mm artillery piece over to you?” “Yeah, whatever, come shoot the tank with it.”
@pascoett3 жыл бұрын
How much heat, smoke and debris can be expected from artillery shellfire shot above a tank? Also, I think indirect fire may hit adjacent panzer grenadiers or other, light vehicles in the vicinity of a larger object such as a tank. If the Tigerfibel existed in a similar form for other tanks, all German tank crews must have been well aware about the value of their machines. The vast numbers of tanks being in repair might give us a hint, that German tank crews might have been more careful from 1943 onwards even with much better machines than the Panzer IV.
@HO-bndk3 жыл бұрын
You can condense this into. "Shoot the sh*t out of them, Tovarisch. Fling anything you have at them; H.E. with and without delay fuses and any ATk you have too."
@thedevilneveraskstwice70273 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another video! Anyway, isn't there a AusF. margin between assault gun Stug and TD Stug? :-) Did the soviet recognize It?
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
if I remember correctly - from a cut part of the script - there were almost no short-barrelled Stugs on the Eastern Front anymore at that time; in the translated document there was nothing mentioned.
@richard4short53 жыл бұрын
I have climbed onto a Stug (Imperial War Museum) they are small! In fact most of the AFV of that era are small (I am 6'2" tall)
@uegvdczuVF3 жыл бұрын
afaik the requirement for stug was that the vehicle should not be taller than a soldier standing up.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
all tanks are "small", I was in the Merkava I/II which is generally described by everyone as a "roomy" tank, for me it was totally cramped etc. I talked to one of the guys about it and he said: "it is roomy for a tank". More here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/roiblKmboZp6Z9k
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
I have been probably in about 10 tanks by now including the StuG III, but I still have no feeling yet what a "roomy" tank is. I was in Panthers, Sturmtiger, StuG, Panzer III, Panzer IV, (Hummel, Wespe), Wiesel, Merkava, T-55, T-34/85, etc.
@soldatnr4443 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized Have you been in an bmp? It's the definition of totally cramped
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
@@soldatnr444 nope, actually not, I have been in a Marder, but that is a different beast.
@camaradacomissario96413 жыл бұрын
I love how he pronounces German names so correctly!
@Gorilla_Jones2 жыл бұрын
Ummmm, he’s German.
@frpgplayer3 жыл бұрын
They're great when playing Panzerblitz!
@Raven17013 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@earlyriser89983 жыл бұрын
nice to see how the Russians documented their process to counter this threat
@mt18853 жыл бұрын
When they invaded in 1941 - it was the beginning of the end. Can't imagine the cold -50 no food and machinery all broken down.
@peterschmidt19003 жыл бұрын
"Scheibe stehen" kannte ich noch gar nicht. Englische Übersetzung half. :-D
@tkyap25243 жыл бұрын
Yes, understand the enemy and then hit it where it hurts most.
@markdexter63383 жыл бұрын
Coming from the channel "Today I found out", guess I found Simon's long lost German cousin.
@Community-Action3 жыл бұрын
STuG life ain’t eazy..
@davidtihire3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have some constructive criticism and I mean no disrespect. You should invest in some sound reduction panels for your main place where you talk in the intro. There were some points where the echo was really loud.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
I have already some and basically you and another complained so far. Congratulations on your great hearing.
@davidtihire3 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized Thanks. Keep up the good work I really enjoy your videos!
@deanmarquis43259 ай бұрын
Could you do something on the use of Begleits.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized9 ай бұрын
What do you mean with "Begleits" because that word mean very much, it means something like "escort's".
@ThatZenoGuy3 жыл бұрын
Put ads at the end of the video please. Thank you.
@petersimpson89063 жыл бұрын
4:38: you have assumed that the ‘time-fuse’ round mentioned in the mix of artillery shells is a delayed action point detonating fuse, and go on to discuss that does not necessarily make sense when targeting armour and infantry in the open. If the ‘time-fuse’ was actually a mechanical time delay fuse, used for air burst over troops in the open, this might make a lot more sense. Discuss!
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
I don't think air-burst were particularly common in World War 2, for several reasons, timers were rather basic, e.g., see 20th July Assassination plot, they used if I remember British timers, but even those were rather imprecise. For artillery we are talking milliseconds, in WW1 if you have a mostly static front line, you can figure it, against moving targets, less so. The Western Allies in 1944/45 had some from what I know, but they were really good in that tech and their artillery game.
@petersimpson89063 жыл бұрын
The pencil chemical time delay detonators used in the 20th July assassination plot were never precision instruments, check out the Raid on St Nazaire (Operation Chariot), but were designed for sabotage attacks against in essence static targets where allowing sufficient time for the saboteurs to exfiltrate the area safely and without detection may be considered the time delay requirement. I am not aware of the general availability of shrapnel rounds in the Soviet artillery supply system, but they were in the inventory, see 76mm Complete Round, Fixed, Shrapnel, USh-344, USh-352, USh-353D, USh-354G, etc.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
@@petersimpson8906 from my understanding shrapnel and air burst are a bit different, shrapnel is rather old and direct fire, whereas air burst is exploding above you.
@petersimpson89063 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized You are quite right. I doubt that the Soviets would have wanted to complicate their supply chain with a range of munition types that might rarely use rather than focusing on straight forward HE shells. The point which I did not make very well was that there were fuzing systems available for HE airburst in the inventory. Mechanical time delay fuzes could have been supplied separate to 'standard' impact fuzed HE shells, and a de-fuze/re-fuze carried out at the gun line to achieve the desired mix of terminal effects. I am no linguist, but without access to the original Russian text to see what was actually written, rather than the German translation, my observation is little more than speculation.
@orbitalair21033 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized Sir, I disagree, while not 'precise', airburst timers for artillery shells were developed during and after WW1. So these had to be used. I think you should research and do a video on this topic (timed artillery fuzes). I am reading that while not exactly precise it was 4 on target, 2 in the ground, and thus all airburst barrages were 'adjusted' by observers when the barrage went to Fire for Effect. BTW the ZIS3 is still being used !
@Easy-Eight3 жыл бұрын
Time fuse is not time delay. Time shells are airburst and designed to kill the people around the Stug. Signed, US Army Field Artillery.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
source? US Army Field Artillery from what I know was quite advanced.
@Easy-Eight3 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized ??? I went through US Army Field Artillery school. I was the fire direction officer for Charlie Battery, 4/20th Field Artillery. Artillery is indirect fire. You said the Soviet 76mm guns were direct support. At the target's location then add 20 meters to the height of the target to hit the target with an airburst (technically the burst is high and short of the target so it's saturated with Shrapnel). The cannoneers are given the propellant charge (A 76mm cannon is not in the US Army & I'm not going to look up if it has a charge increment), type of shell, fuze setting, deflection (direction), and quadrant (angle of fire). Fuze setting for time = Time of flight. The ToF for the fuze is calculated and then verified by using a book called a Tabular Firing Table (TFT). The personnel who work gunnery in the US Army are called "13E". That's "Thirteen Echo". When a fire mission comes in the FDC (Fire Direction Control) personnel pride themselves on getting accurate data quickly to the guns. General Rule: A fire mission can be done in less than a minute. That is from when the target call comes in until the artillery shell is out of the tube. That is receipt of the voice command, calculation of the firing commands, giving the guns the firing command, the crew loading the shell, and firing.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
@@Easy-Eight "You said the Soviet 76mm guns were direct support." Nope, I said they were used in both direct and indirect fire. You seem to completely ignore that we are talking about WW2 Red Army here, so less training, different technology, likely far worse radios, more men, etc. to compare that to the US Army (non conscript) of now or even a few decades before is ridiculous. Even for WW2 artillery there seems to be a major difference between US Army and Red Army, at least that is my impression after doing this video/interview, which actually got one historian writing me and noting that I did an excellent job, since I portrayed artillery as a system not just a weapon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3bPn3tjip6EZtk Not to mention that as a base you use a German term that I translated into English that was originally Russian...
@Easy-Eight3 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized I'm sorry about the mis-quote. However, at 12:28 it clearly says the rounds are "time-fused". BTW, that's quite cleaver on the Soviet leadership's side. First, you knock the vehicle out with high explosives then you kill the recovery crew with air bursts. Explosive = "HE", high explosive point detonating. Time = airburst. FYI, the old M-101 105mm guns were still in the US Reserve system back up to the 1990s. Every side had timed artillery shells. Germany invented them before WWI and everybody copied them. Your videos are excellent. You just didn't understand the concept of a time artillery shell. Now you know. No disrespect on my end was intended.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
@@Easy-Eight the problem with "time-fused" is that I translated from WW2 German which was translated from WW2 Russian, so it could be wrong. I will keep it in mind in the future. From what I remember in about German WW2 artillery tactics (although it has been a while), they did not have an airburst only with the ricochet (Abpraller) as shown in the video.
@stewartorr19393 жыл бұрын
There appears to be confusion between time fuses and delay. time fuses explode after a certain amount of time after exiting the tube. In delay the timer goes off after hitting a hard target.allowing for greater penetration time allows for a areal burst which has a better effect on troops in the open antennae and optics
@davidlarge88943 жыл бұрын
Was the superstructure of the Stug bolted or welded to the chassis as I have seen photos of Stugs with the superstructure blown off more or less in one piece.
@jimmylight48662 жыл бұрын
Bolted
@touristguy873 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but don't forget that WW2 has been over for 80 years.
@juanzulu13183 жыл бұрын
Why does the German Generalispekteur der Panzertruppen give out instructions to fight German StuGs?
@caryblack59853 жыл бұрын
They translated the Soviet pamphlet on fighting stugs so the Germans would know what tactics were used by the Soviets.
@juanzulu13183 жыл бұрын
@@caryblack5985 i see. Thx👍
@frankmueller27812 жыл бұрын
Gods, but I'd love to have a STUG!
@scratchy9962 жыл бұрын
The way things are looking nowadays, I think everyone could use a Stug for home defense.
@lewcrowley37102 жыл бұрын
Why can't these internet 'exspurts' differentiate that Sturmgeschutz were predominately used by the Sturmartillerie? That is, NOT the panzer units? I guess WOTs has to blame for much of this misconceptions?
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
> Why can't these internet 'exspurts' differentiate that Sturmgeschutz were predominately used by the Sturmartillerie? Are you referring to me? If so, how do you come to that "interesting" and wrong assumption? Here is a video from 2016 about the Sturmartillerie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qne7i5Z5Zt2NpKs Also late-war Stugs were used in Panzer-Units as well.
@tripletango3 жыл бұрын
Me, a war thunder player: write that down, write that down
@thebigone60713 жыл бұрын
Bernhard is so great that he has more knowledge in his big toe than all other historians combined!
@juanzulu13183 жыл бұрын
Funny: so the assault gun should actually be called defence gun
@rickglorie3 жыл бұрын
Stugs getting stug ahm stuck
@paulwallis75863 жыл бұрын
That's quite a lengthy, complex, and tactically demanding character reference for the StuGs. They seem to be devoting a lot of time, work, and resources to defending against one specific type of vehicle. As for a Russian mobile anti-tank reserve, copying German tactics?
@misterbaker97283 жыл бұрын
Both sides of all campaigns do this. Hence after action reports. Only way to teach the upcoming soldier. Think more of how many died to get all this Information. Especially Russians. Only way they solve a problem is to kill a million people and go from the
@panthermartin77842 жыл бұрын
I took out a STuG at the bar last night, in the end she rolled right over.......
@FoxyRoxy53 жыл бұрын
Oh no he's hot
@N0die3 жыл бұрын
diese Englischen videos sind auch in ordnung
@comentedonakeyboard3 жыл бұрын
This comment is aimed at the algorithm 🏹
@jeffreypierson20643 жыл бұрын
Fire?
@comentedonakeyboard3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreypierson2064 Jawohl!
@4T3hM4kr0n2 жыл бұрын
don't bully my stug :(
@MrJenskrappmann3 жыл бұрын
Könntest Du bitte auf deutsch mit Untertiteln sprechen? Ist schwierig zuzuhören. Ansonsten, informativ und interessant.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpqZh6qqZZmmjdk
@jp95483 жыл бұрын
Sofiel wouldn’t like this
@shrshred23233 жыл бұрын
the best part of his videos is how he fights the english language
@machinegunpreacher24693 жыл бұрын
At this point you could just leave it as "HKL" in the translation. We all know it by now and anybody who doesn't, hasn't been educated enough and needs to go back and watch older videos. :)
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
No, because you can't assume anyone knows a previous video. There are people out there that don't know I have this channel.
@machinegunpreacher24693 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized I merely meant to indicate that they should not simply start here, but browse your entire collection to get to know you. It was a tongue-in-cheek remark.
@edwardjj42243 жыл бұрын
Stug lll even with short 75 mm main gunn in the right hands was very effective against any enemy armor equipment On the Russian Front Michael's Wittmann Stug lll engaged six Bolsheviks T -34 with great success After the combat Herr Wittmann getting awarded with Knight Cross promotion and training to become one of the best Tiger commander Just like Kurt Knispel Otto Caruss any many others Thanks for posting this video Utube God bless You all
@homefront31623 жыл бұрын
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@Gorilla_Jones2 жыл бұрын
STUG life!
@alanmoffat44543 жыл бұрын
IF YOU FIRE AT MAX DISTANCE YOU CAN EXPECT COUNTER BATTERY 🔥 CONCEALMENT IS WHAT IT MEEN S .
@kiereluurs12433 жыл бұрын
WHAT?!! English please.
@sickre3 жыл бұрын
Too much facecam
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized3 жыл бұрын
wrong channel ;)
@adamstrange78843 жыл бұрын
Generally unhealthy for the gun crew...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣That's a Drachnefel joke right there, yesserie!