Soviet digital clock analysis and restoration

Repairing and examining a soviet digital alarm clock Elektronika (Электроника) 6.15 from 1982 with a vacuum fluorescent display (VFD) IVL1-7/5 (ИВЛ1-7/5). The schematic and how does it work. Old version with K176IE12 (К176ИЕ12), K176IE13 (К176ИЕ13), K176ID2 (К176ИД2) and two K161KN1 (К161КН1) chips. Comparing it to the newer version with K176IE18 (К176ИЕ18), K176IE13 (К176ИЕ13) and K176ID3 (К176ИД3). Attempted VFD display regeneration. Possible modification for nixie tubes using K561TM3 (К561ТМ3) and K155ID1 (К155ИД1) chips instead of K176ID3. Correction: K561TM3 contains 4 latches, not 6.
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[@msansjr]

The buzzing sound brings back memories of waking up in a cold morning with a horrible sound and having to go to school. Thanks for reminding me that my life is so much better now! :D

[@優さん-n7m]

yes, we were finally able to all become enslaved to material things thanks to fall of sovite union, it feels great

[@SUPRAMIKE18]

I could never decide what was worse, the electronic buzz/beep or the old metal bells that were loud as hell.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

@@優さん-n7m Now, im not saying America is to blame for the fall of the soviet union, but thats EXACTLY what im saying and the people behind it should be charged with crimes against humanity.

[@rhodexa]

I think we all agree we love when you diverge a little from the main subject as we learn a lot xD

[@aicisha]

Super educational and interesting journey into this piece of vintage home electronics. Thank you! Two things to note: bigger caps will lower the ripple very little but they will cause higher inrush current when you plug it in and so you might change the fuse constantly, also lower rated fuse will cause you the same issues, so leave them like they are...

[@plainedgedsaw1694]

I think avoiding problems with inrush current is what slow blow fuses are for, ain't they?

[@aicisha]

@@plainedgedsaw1694 Just after posting my above comment I remembered about T-type fuses, so yup you are right. My initial mindset was to leave every component as original as possible

[@hiteck007]

Mate your accent is difficult to understand but some very good information, I couldn't understand the Russian data sheet so I'm glad you explained it. I can't believe you had new parts on hand. It was really interesting.Good job

[@danielpetrov9179]

I have the same clock, restored to working condition.

[@WagTsX]

41 minutes worth of watching, even though I'm from Brazil and never saw any clock barely as similar to these here, it's still highly entertaining to watch it and learn the physics behind such interesting vintage devices. Also, you got such a massive spare components for them, so they seem like a very common household appliance there.

[@rjltrevisan]

I agree, and also, shout out to our Brazil!

[@isoguy.]

@@rjltrevisan Promoting world peace from the UK. Been to Sao Paulo, Rio, Salvador an Porto Allegro, what a fantastic country and the majority of Brazilian people are, in my experience, friendly and welcoming. Really miss the coffee, beef with black beans and rice.

[@rjltrevisan]

@@isoguy. Nice!

[@pu5epx]

+1 from .br

[@isoguy.]

@@pu5epx That makes you one cool dude in my books.

[@higamitakaro]

1:05 - "K" (Коррекция) is a correction button used to synchronise clock with the radio broadcasted signals of sharp time. The radio broadcasted several short beeps following the long beep on which a user pressed this button and the clock automatically adjusted minutes to "00" and hours to closest value, e.g. 13:57 would be adjusted to 14:00 but 14:03 would be adjusted to 14:00!

[@ELECTROMAN_MX]

wow!

[@liam3284]

From memory, even Windows had this feature. Most clock radios I have seen in hotels too.

[@sadikalarieski7340]

Such systems. wow!

[@Geniusinventor]

Man, your clock videos are very entertaining and educational. I love to see old-time technology that still works. Thank you very much for this video.

[@MarekKnapek]

And of course a certain country needs it's main control chip replaced. 17:50 (-:

[@فريداسعد-ط5ل]

The 1 million dollar question is : what is that countrylol

[@TheSpotify95]

Priceless! :D

[@iStandWithRussia]

muricah

[@westelaudio943]

@@فريداسعد-ط5ل (Almost) all of them...

[@AdamV20]

As someone said before "There are three types of clocks: analog, digital and soviet"

[@KrotowX]

Soviet are the same as above, but usually as copies of 15-25 years old western tech. And build quality was worse.

[@ВиталикАршлнкмидов]

​@@KrotowXbut no shit, that's why the Amys are spying on the Russians because they want to copy the technology ... Russia was and will develop independently 😘

[@antibrevity]

Excellent video! You have an impressive collection of Soviet VFD clocks and I guarantee that some viewers got excited when you showed your box of displays ;). The fact that you go into depth is the reason I watch and support you, so definitely keep doing your own thing. In my opinion, this is the best electronics channel on youtube. I also love that you show us equipment that I might not have ever seen before and will never encounter in my country. This is probably one reason that Nixies are so popular, as Westerners did not grow up with them and thus find them novel and fascinating ;). I enjoyed seeing your Czecho-Slovak Nixie clock as well and love how it's displayed in a transparent case.

[@slxb7743]

Спасибо! В конце 80х собрал часы на основе советского радиоконструктора с микросхемой К145ИК1901. Работали исправно больше 20 лет. А заменили их только из-за полной потери яркости такого же индикатора как в этом видео.

[@DIOS-M]

@Рыбаков Андрей Фигня. Я знаю бабу которая выбросила пылесос из за того что в нем пылесборник забился. Попросила зайти глянуть почему пылесос не тянет, я на 5 минут заглянул к ней, в шутку ляпнул " выбрасывай у этого пылесборник забит".Через несколько дней зашел в гости а она реально его выбросила и новый купила. Как в старом, бородатом анекдоте, про пепельницу в машине. Не ожидал что в реальности такое встречу.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

автопереводчик не понимает "радиоконструктор" считает конструктор здесь это инженер, а не лего

[@DeNzIlDDA]

У нас такой дисплей 30 лет отработал. Пока я его не разбил. Только часы были в трехпрограммном приёмнике. Сейчас он работает, несколько лет назад дисплей перепаял))

[@СергейШершнев-ц9щ]

Могу подогнать новый дисплей

[@Grinya100ev]

Собирал и такие наборы, как вы, и собирал на ИЕ 18, 13, ИД3, или ИД2 в случае со светодиодами. Приятные воспоминания. Заметили, у автора и осциллограф советский?

[@lauraiss1027]

My mom was a bookkeeper in 1982 and her salary was 5 rubles a day. But although this clock would seem like expensive , almost a half month salary, food (very few options available) was cheap and there was not much to buy so this clock was accessible to common folk to spend there savings on.

[@MacIn173]

And this clock would probably last for decades. My family had bunch of similar ones, last one that we stopped using somewhere in 2010, and it was completely functional, just not needed anymore. So yeah, you pay 1/3 of average monthly netto salary back then, but that's a "long time investment" :)

[@YuryMar]

@@MacIn173 Yes, this clock work very long, but on the other hand you can also buy simple mechanical alarmclock for 3-5 rubels, and it’s work at least 10 years without problem, or some “quartz” alarm clock (with clock dial, without fancy electronic digits) for 10-12 rubels (my grandma use this for years). So 45 rubels for digital alarmclock in the middle of 1980s - it’s for wealthy electronics geek of that time. :)

[@Fridelain]

Kinda like cars or homes, the money was not the biggest issue, there was a 10-14 year waiting list in the case of cars, similar for houses, some jobs had the perk you could buy the house or car straight away, you chosed a job based on the perks more than the salary. Often the perk was what you could take home (hidden) and trade on the black market, or favors you could do.

[@MacIn173]

@@Fridelain "there was a 10-14 year waiting list in the case of cars, similar for houses" that's not true. Average queue span for an apartment was 5 years (that's statistics, not biased subjective opinion). For cars, even less.

[@lunaticsterritory8868]

41:00 electroboom roasted

[@johncoops6897]

And BigClive immediately before that.

[@VVerVVurm]

lol .. I thought immediately of both of them .. SHOTS FIRED!

[@antibrevity]

17:50 Sneaky ;)

[@TheSpotify95]

17:51 "a certain country also needs it's main control chip replaced" priceless!

[@Tekwyzard]

Doesn't just need to be replaced, it needs a damn good slapping first.

[@erikziak1249]

😀

[@levetbyck]

lol

[@MrAtlantis95]

😂

[@Ayleen_Hazar]

^^

[@airmann90]

I have a dozen old clock radios in my lab, always fun when you find a quality one with interesting analog circuitry to analyze. Thanks again.

[@airmann90]

@@Willam_J Good to know! I've always preferred 24 hr, not sure why though lol. I have no background in using it. Saves the whole "is it AM or PM?" confusion when you wake up in a stupor I guess

[@teslakovalaborator]

@@Willam_J I had the same idea, until I almost broke one clock, which had that shitty PCB & diffusor sandwich. Of course, the LEDs weren't equipped - well better check the first digit as you said :D

[@kochegarishe]

мужик да ты крут! коробка индикаторов осциллограф советский.... :)

[@RocRizzo]

Hmm… I wonder which country needs its main control chip replaced. I also wonder if it’s not the only one that needs its main control chip replaced.

[@ursulmusic]

Seems like you already know the answer.

[@RocRizzo]

@@ursulmusic I know of at least several.

[@westelaudio943]

Which countries do not these days? Not many probably.

[@sanjikaneki6226]

you can insert any country and you will probably be correct .

[@iamdarkyoshi]

Happy to support your channel. Screw the algorithm, I want cool quality content and your channel has been one of the best. Thank you!

[@RicoElectrico]

34:10 let's tow it away using a tractor and let's give it a Ukrainian display 🤣

[@OntologicalQuandry]

WOW! The price being carved into the plastic really shows the stupidity of command economies. What an eye-opener!

[@shivasisdash7343]

Carlsons lab, Shangoo66 , and Diode gone wild are the three best electronic channels on KZbin.No bullshits only main points which is understood by showing highly practical videos .and no shit edits..

[@crashlogger4283]

There's no need to shit on ElectroBOOM to praise a different creator. The channels are for very different audiences ranging from very amateur hobbyists with an interest in electronics and literal schoolchildren to professionals in the field. If you don't fit into the first category, it is only natural for you to find ElectroBOOM's content unentertaining.

[@mndx89]

Wow…for some reason i find old soviet electronic devices really interesting and fascinating… Would love one of these clocks, here in italy nixie tubes/displays are really unusual , especially considering that we adopted lcd displays in the early 80s, transictioning to them directly from analog clocks.

[@arenaengineering8070]

Thanks for the video! These electronic clocks were developed on microchips with a low degree of integration in the 1970s. Also, an electronic clock on the VFD was also made on the microcontroller kr145ik1901 (kr145ik1911)(кр145ик1901 (кр145ик1911)). This series (k / kr145 ****) is very old (the beginning of production - the end of the 60s - the beginning of the 70s) and was used in many places. As well as a more advanced version of an electronic clock with a VFD display with a memory of alarm clocks for the week kr1005vi1, which was installed in the VCR "Электроника вм-12".

[@alphadog6970]

33:20 boxes of vintage displays hahahahahahahhaha Sorry i dont know why its so funny to me

[@Alchemetica]

A very enjoyable video. Fascinating to see the evolving circuit design over time. Thanks for the video, as for the length I did not notice it, the time just flew by - a good indication of how the video is engaging.

[@creazychannel]

41:01 He is definitely talking about Mehdi from ElectroBoom

[@atdzsny]

He may be one of the famous ones, but I'm sure there are many doing these foolish things. (E.g. see the early KREOSAN videos.)

[@jstro-hobbytech]

I'm going to dispatch a group of armed guards to your residents to forcibly make you sell one of the old clocks (not the ones you built, that would be too mean) for a large sum of money. They will then store it a Faraday case and cover the clock in fine silk.

[@GeorgePapadopoulos11]

I don’t know which year this thing was manufactured but it looks like it’s the same technology as the Apollo 11 used to go to the moon in the year 1969.

[@δωμάτιομελέτης]

A 9V battery with an expiry date of '97 looks so shiny as new.... But my multimeter's 9V battery leaked and corroded the meter which has a date upto' 2024....?!😵.... Are we a joke to the technology nowadays?

[@rodlophus]

I think this channel is exactly what EEs (as myself) look for. After seeing a flood of clueless "engineers" "teaching" electronics on KZbin, your rant about transistors vs. optocouplers (@ 22:46) and the "disclaimer" at the end of this video made me very happy (actually, Patreon-grade happy ;)). Thank you very, very much for sharing all of this!!!

[@dl8cy]

There was no single minute too much in this video ! Videos of DiodeGoneWild are so educating and relaxing at the same time!

[@narodnyservis]

USSR - is not Russia. 90% digital electronic from USSR made in Ukraine

[@douro20]

That's a military type fuse holder. And yes it is silver plated.

[@KrotowX]

Very common clock from my childhood. We had these in form of large wall clocks in corridors and waiting halls. Basically the same circuit, but larger indicators. FYI: Common Soviet aluminium foil electrolytic capacitors often had very bad quality even for new ones.

[@RammSkz]

I've seen one of those still working at one of our local hospitals.😊

[@RobotN001]

3:03 nuke incoming alarm

[@AmatorElektronik]

Hi, Where can you buy new displays?

[@Vladynko1]

About 3-4 years ago, I bought a display via E-bay for about 15 Euros. Seller Olegh Sidorov, Ukraine.

[@JLCPCB]

Very interesting video! 😁

[@mikhail_z]

I have this clock in a DIY version (sold as a set of parts with assembly manual and without case and cables)

[@omniyambot9876]

"How much you can buy for 49 rubbles nowadays" loool

[@TheSpotify95]

49 rubles equates to something like £0.45, so not that much. You can't even buy a chocolate bar or a packet of potato crisps for that amount of money :p.

[@omniyambot9876]

@@TheSpotify95 aaaand multiply the inflation due to the ongoing war....

[@maxims.4882]

@@omniyambot9876 1 ruble = $1.41 in 1982. 49 rubles = $69.2

[@adriansuhr]

41 minutes love it, old reliable tech.

[@antibrevity]

Cool that these displays were still being made in 1999! I always find it interesting which products survived past the Soviet era and which did not. As these clocks were apparently ubiquitous where you are, I could imagine someone trying to make a modern version as a retro product for those that still remember them, but obviously the displays might be impractical to manufacture. As with Nixie and vacuum tubes, you need specialty machines and the expertise to use them and much of that has already been lost. I really like that people are reviving the art of Nixie production, but their products are ridiculously expensive :(. Things that were once cheap-as-dirt, embarrassingly antiquated commodities made by people considered peasants are now boutique luxuries made by people considered artisans.

[@mjouwbuis]

VFD's are still used in Western and Far Eastern consumer electronics. I roughly estimate the average household has on average 2 to 3 modern electron tubes: 1 magnetron and 1 or 2 VFD's.

[@eDoc2020]

Fortunately vacuum fluorescent displays are still being made for new products, such as the displays on Hi-Fi equipment.

[@jstro-hobbytech]

I love how it does so much with so few ics. That mesr meter is almost as important as the continuity function on your meter when trying to fix something.

[@maxinfly]

I have assembled similar when I was 15 as DIY from kit. Sweet memories

[@paulstubbs7678]

Nice vid, much better than the stupid 'shorts'

[@beatrute2677]

Please keep making these vids man, your teaching method is awesome

[@Gelo9623]

Back then 100r was an average salary per month So this device was quite expensive

[@Vladynko1]

I remember that in the 80's there was a tourist rate in Czechoslovakia: 1 Ruble - 10 Kčs. And the average salary for the month was around 2000 Kčs . Which would be about 200 rubles.

[@Gelo9623]

@@Vladynko1 I kind of agree with you, my grandpa’s salary was around 300r but he had very difficult work (he was a moulder).

[@2madrobot]

You speak like that cat looks, I like it :) 5:10

[@ТЮНИНГСтайл-б1е]

Привет из России

[@diskettenfett3161]

Excellent videos, I really enjoy the old 60s/70s electronics from the Soviet Union. Remembers me when I still had time to tinker with vintage electronics for fun. Keep up the good work :)

[@pe1dnn]

I like looking at these soviet electronics, it is so weird and different from what I was used back in the '80. It's like being on a different planet, discovering the use of orange transistors, strange value resistors and odd part numbers with Cyrillic letters; a completely different world and hard to imagine it is not another planet but just an iron curtain that separated the world.

[@vaclavtrpisovsky]

Please check your Patreon DMs. I may have been muted by attempting to send an overly long text. I swear it wasn't spam. Being able to contact you directly is my favorite Patreon perk and the main reason I signed up.

[@apitoriaru5801]

excellent pronounce )))

[@BoBaH_BoBaHoB]

Soviet DAC in France?

Its 2022 and now i finally know, that it is possible rejuvenate vacuum florescent display :D

[@Tigrou7777]

Sunday, cat, soviet device & electronics = instant thumb up

[@jcxtra]

I like your explanation videos. Between you and BigClive, you've pretty much taught me everything I know about electronics - so much that I drew a schematic from scratch today to explain the difference between a switchmode flyback power supply and one of the old AC transformer supplies (to help explain why capacitors used to have to be quite big!).

[@Elmantukas]

Im sure everyone in eastern europe had one of these, so did we! Was working beautifully and brightly for many years until it dropped and died. Great clocks.

[@0isay]

What accent is this?

[@dst0815]

Supr video, Diode

[@erikziak1249]

TOP content. Quality beats quantity. I highly appreciate this approach. Danyk, great work, as usual. Keep this philosophy of high quality, low "wow factor" videos. I do not need artificial drama or hype, this is much more valuable. Thank you.

[@laustinspeiss]

I enjoyed the literal pronunciation of the english words with your accent..! Screw becomes skree-ewe. Torn between the content and the accent. Good fun video.

[@ymirthefrostgiant]

Well done for making such an informative and thorough presentation. I want to analyse the multiplexing and chip sets of late 1960s / early 1970s calculators and this has helped a great deal. Your pronunciation of English is certainly unique but your use of English language is perfect. I suspect you are reading from text, possibly a very good translation, but using the stresses and emphasis of your own native language. But don't worry - every KZbinr has their own accent and all are interesting.

[@tudbut]

He is actually fluent, just has a thick accent

[@NaoPb]

Very nice video. I like clocks. I have no problem with this longer video. I'd like to see more of your clocks.

[@technixbul]

My favourite type of clocks, I have much newer and nicer design model from 94 "Электроника 6.14-03", I love those clocks, they are very simple and accurate. A whole box of displays!? Wow now that is a gold treasure, I used to find one new then they disappeared, even from the flee market.

[@InsideOutElectronics]

This brings memory, i have built one like this myself when i was a kid. I wish i still have it ;)

[@TheSpotify95]

Nice to see that you got the clock back into good working order! Seems like it needed a display and a capacitor... I wouldn't mind one of these old clocks either, they're probably much more reliable than the modern ones, and will last for a lot longer than anything modern. Most modern components and electronic items are designed to be throwaway, they stop working after a certain time and that's it. The only thing I would do if I had an old clock like this, or a nixie clock, is to try and create a better power source for it, as I'm not keen on having something permanently plugged in all the time to mains in case it fails.

[@fabiomuzzi7047]

Really nice video. And of course the comments about some country needing a replacement control chip and about tractors are priceless.

[@sarathai2876]

Okay , I get it there's too many comments to answer, so I'm just going to blur them out answer what you can. What's your cat's name? I live in America meaning most of all global population lives here. But I'm lost what is your accent? And last I love your videos. You actually explain how things work. you fix things I wish I could talk to you privately. I have a $80 eBay power supply at first it worked just fine but now it likes to jump around voltage and current. I live in East Coast Florida very salty humid atmosphere .. any ideas what might be wrong.? Oh yeah 👍 your videos are not overly long. anyone with the slightest electronical background will know it takes time to explain.

[@gabdullahfarukhshin2030]

So interesting and familiar to me content, but so funny horrible accent 😏 Such clocks were assembled in my home city. When I was child I saw many of that clocks at home of our neighbors - uncle Vitya (Victor) worked at plant where these clocks were assembled, for example "Электроника 5".

[@ronniepirtlejr2606]

It has a bad internal connection. You tried to burn through the corrosion & establish a new connection. Too bad it died :-( They are amazing pieces of Technology. Thank you for explaining everything to us, showing us how you fixed it & such a long video. I enjoyed it very much!👍

[@cocusar]

I think you reviewing soviet stuff has become one of my favorite topics of videos from your channel. Amazing!

[@didyman79]

Hello DiodeGOneWild, maybe You know the answer: in these clocks, YOu usually can find a wire looks like connecting two points of the PCB, but quickly realize it has only one end connected. Do You have any idea what is the purpose of these? Here the white cable: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6HPoIysfd-jna8

[@hanapriknerova5712]

will it alarm in backup mode on battery b.t.w. i am from czech republic and when you fix an radio or analog tv on vhf chanals 4-5 (fm beotcast owerlap) i can hear brodcasts in czech i am from czech republic too and sorry for that wierd name mams old phone -) my phone, but i am 13 and stll stuck with this old phone :( ceeap videos about ussr things coming you have the best chanel in the world :) youtube will not be anithing widout you

[@Bobit53]

It seems that such futuristic indicators were often used in soviet union. Starting from such clocks, ending with household electrical players, tape recorders. Later, of course, they switched to LED, and then unfortunately the era ended =(

[@JohnnyX50]

Dobry Den, Would be cool to to use a higher F oscillator and make a funky silly display out of it :D I heard your little comment about 'a certain country' needing its main chip replacing. Had me laughing a lot! :D Dekuji! :D

[@Michael_Michaels]

I'm trying to pay attention to the fix itself but I can't help but to be distracted from it because of the way you speak!!!! Where the hell are you from???? Weird accent you have, with all due respect! Thank you,.

[@marcinborkowicz2557]

Danyk, what did you done?! You are stroking such a nice cat at the front of the camera and suddenly I felt rigid necessity to stroke a cat, too😄 Then I realised "Shit! No cat avaliable in my apartment!". How can I manage to see whole video now?😆

[@flatspin5382]

We want more cat videos from you

[@alancordwell9759]

Thanks for this very interesting video- great to see an in depth analysis of the Soviet IC's as well as the clock repair. I enjoy all your videos and the format of them is perfect.

[@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3]

What was that you were using to drive to NixiLand? Never mind I think your about to answer that. Thanks anyways. Love your style. GodBless

[@gordshkafreeman7683]

голос электромонаха , поющий электронные проповеди, бесценен.

[@ganeshm6141]

Sir ...my clock slowed 10 minutes per hour What problem sir

[@sebastianwingednekokipp2694]

I agreed to the cat :D ...but still I made it to the very end, too. Thank you for the deep insight of the idea behind this clock.

[@karlmartell9279]

Had to stop and flee video, fearing risk of brain damage from that crazy pronunciation. Sounds like Gaddafi on drugs.

[@KurablessWutero-Manjo]

Why did they use dot "." as a separation symbol? Isn't it comma "," ? 0.25A or 0,25A

[@zafaradeel2107]

Fvck the old Soviet clock,i enjoy all video just because of your English accent ! ! !God bless you.

[@nielsdaemen]

30:48 *At least the Soviets had the correct 6!* # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # *Meanwhile in in the US:* # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #

[@sz72909]

Just got a massive headache listening to your whining! But, I give you credit for persevering through the restoration!

[@BobT36]

One thing that really sets you apart DGW, is your thoroughness. You leave no stone unturned or text overlooked. It's an admirable quality.

[@DiodeGoneWild]

Thanks :) but it sometimes makes the videos bloody long :D

[@BobT36]

@@DiodeGoneWild It's alright, longish ones like this are fine to just bookmark and then put on a 2nd monitor. Watched it all the way. Better than shorting mains voltage for entertainment. ;)

[@DigitalIP]

Kitty pawing the carpet means Kitty is Happy, so thats good to see :)

[@bsvsite]

в своё время мы такие конструкторы собирали, у меня всё ещё работают такие подобные часы с небольшими усовершенствованиями из журнала радио

[@f0xiar339]

Hello, pretty nice video. Can i have question where are you from? You have accent like Czech.

[@ourchannel8215]

😆😂🤣 maybe in those days there were no small switches like there are now...next generation

[@davidmoravec8738]

to je des ten tvuj prizvuk :)

[@henrikostrov482]

i have 2 od theese clocks aswell but all of thewese broke and i break them even more ig is it possible to fix them or smt i loved theese ??

[@julianpreu3960]

Thankyou for the long and deep video!

[@sanfourbensanfer3911]

How to get one of these without paying 100 Euros in Europe?

[@MahBor]

How do you find these stuff?? I'd literally pay to buy stuff from you!