Space Busters | What Would Life-Sized Planets Look Like? | Space Engineers

What would Space Engineers look like if all of the planets were life-sized? How accurate are the default Space Engineers planet sizes? Just how far is the Moon from Earth in real life? All of this will be answered in this episode of Space Busters!
Today, we're exploring the difference in sizes between the default Space Engineers experience and what would be a life-like model of the Earth and the Moon. (We get ~1/3 of the real sizes).
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[@wielkikramarz]

5:20 Trees: mr. Earth i dont feel so good

[@Idazmi7]

This brings a smile to my face.

[@hush6149]

Sadness noises

[@danielcox3983]

Anybody know what the name of the mod to make the planets bigger? I literally have been searching for 30 minutes and cannot find it lmao

[@jcb5782]

3:43 Me: “Ah yes, some grass. That’s not too big.” Game: *Thats not grass*

[@sabrinasarcos8520]

lol kinda looks that way!

[@melfely474]

The size of the large earth is larger than the distance between earth-like and the mars-like planet in game

[@QualityPen]

The difference in scale between the real world and SE is incredible. In SE the speed limit is 100 m/s. The fastest speed of a commercial Boeing is 370 m/s. A 9mm handgun bullet travels at about 900 m/s. The fastest anti-ship cruise missile, Russia’s Zircon, flies at 3,000 m/s. The ISS orbits Earth at 7,660 m/s. The fastest man-made object is a NASA probe passing the sun at 95,000 m/s. So the fastest man-made spacecraft travel almost 1,000x faster than the top speed in Space Engineers.

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

@@QualityPen wow now that you put that in perspective that’s insane

[@tyty8484]

@@QualityPen Also, don't forget, when this guy says it's about 1/3 the size, what he actually means is that it's a 1/3 scale. i.e.: 1/3 the diameter. (It's actually around 38%) At 4,800m in Diameter this Mega SE planet is about 58x10^18 m3 in Volume where as the real Earth is 1000x10^18 m3. In other words you could fit 17 of these Mega SE planets inside of real earth. And for surface area you get 72mil km2 vs 510mil km2. So real earth has about 7 times the surface area.

[@umbrellacorporation8932]

@@QualityPen The fastest man-made ship is Voyager 1 which was powered by planetary gravity powered by the Sun and Jupiter

[@umbrellacorporation8932]

@@tyty8484 the circumference of the earth is 40,075 km and this one of SE has 4500 km

[@H3zzard]

"Fast ship? You've never heard of the Andrewman Falcon? It's the ship that made the Earthlike-Moonlike Run in less than twelve Europas" (or just over twelve)

[@AndrewmanGaming]

This is the best comment. You can't beat this comment!

[@orvishana1210]

This is great! Hahaha

[@Omlet221]

H3zzard a Europa mesures distance not time in this case 10 km

[@H3zzard]

r/woosh

[@hydrocarbon8272]

Just remember, Andrewman shot first!

[@castroofthevault7563]

Police: Do you know why I pulled you over? Me: No? Police: You were 10 europas over the speed limit

[@Spoon80085]

That mountain was bigger than the original earth

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

Wow

[@itinfodesk]

Haha yep

[@urfork1]

it unironically was. someone above did the math, you could fit over 1 million SE earths into real earth. that means you could fit over 300 thousand SE earths in the other earth if my math is correct

[@Ramschat]

​@@urfork1 The math works a little different, because we're talking about volume, not size (diameter) when fitting one into the other. So if it's 1/3rd the size, it has 1/27th volume (3 to the third power) With a diameter of 4800 instead of 120, it's 40 times as large, thus you could fit 40*40*40= 64.000 SE earthlikes into it.

[@bigolbearthejammydodger6527]

So here's a challenge for you to consider: Orbital drop pod - no thrusters, parachutes, hover engines, shields etc. Just hitting the ground at terminal velocity and surviving the impact - I'm assuming some form of crumple zones and a good understanding of block damage transfer will be needed.

[@ohno6528]

@Samuel Skala you can only use the default drop pod

[@Sirrunalot24]

Would be a lot harder if the max speed wasn't only 110 m/s

[@Zappero]

It's actually amazing this engine can handle this kind of shenanigans.

[@lionkor98]

well it doesn't really "handle" it, it's very glitchy

[@AndrewmanGaming]

I know right? Even though the planet distorts all over the place, the game doesn't even come close to crashing!

[@MBKill3rCat]

@@lionkor98 The 'glitches' are just optimisations; the game doesn't bother to render in terrain that far away, because a vanilla planet would be a little ping-pong ball in the middle of your screen

[@RebSike]

Just for reference, the planet Mercury is 4,878km in diameter, only 78km wider than this modded earth.

[@pxolqopt3597]

I hope they upgrade the engine so we can have 1 to 1 size of planets.

[@swedichboy1000]

3:40 I was doubtful at first, thinking "Looks large but nothing out of the ordinary" Then the trees appeared and my mind was blown away.

[@herbivorethecarnivore8447]

If that's a 1/3 size earth, then walking all the way around it would be like walking from Greenland to the southern tip of Argentina in real time.

[@MiChAeLoKGB]

I still remember how crazy it was when I learned that you could fit every planet in the solar system between Earth and Moon and still have quite some space left.

[@prototechnika]

Well 54 mil km is only the minimum distance between mars and earth. That gap can increase up to 400 mil km

[@lordbanetheplayer8844]

Which is due to everything in Space moving, and such, the distance increases and decreases at certain times. Cool.!!. Right.:??:.

[@Inpiral]

The larger planet (4800 km) is closer to the diameter of the moon (3474 km) than the earth (12742 km). Definitely time for a speed limit mod!

[@lividplanets4091]

Wow. Really puts things into perspective.

[@DonnaPinciot]

You can fix some of this weirdness by setting 'SpherizeWithDistance' in the .sbc to 'false'. It'll stop the weird pop-in and let you see everything in its full glory, rather than playing peek-a-boo with mountains.

[@CMWolfMagic]

Get to space without thrusters, or wheels.

[@AndrewmanGaming]

Oh my. This sounds interesting. Hmmm, I'm thinking maybe a jumping mechanism? Or maybe explosions?

[@azurethi2851]

Self welding, piston & merge block climber

[@user-uv5ld3cx5t]

heh, too easy haven't you heard of Clang Drives?

[@flockenlp1]

Just... stairs. A lot of stairs.

[@MrPablosek]

@@flockenlp1 No. LADDERS! We have the HOLY LADDERS, have you forgotten about them?

[@Apollo_1641]

I clicked the moment I saw that a new video of this amazing series was out. Keep it up dude! :D

[@512TheWolf512]

Elite: dangerous does a way better job showing the sheer size of space and the things in it

[@cypheir]

Sadly all it does is show you... beyond driving around collecting pebbles, they don't let you do anything else =(

[@seasonsbeats5567]

/\'Cypheir yep got boring quick

[@garrettthefrank1903]

Star Citizen does and amazing job of it as well.

[@cypheir]

Star Citizen doesn't quite do it like Elite yet. In the galaxy in Elite (approximation of the milky way), players have only discovered (visited) roughly 0.004% of all possible stars in the galaxy. Believe me, its immense... I once spent a whole day just maneuvering though the galaxy map. www.pcgamer.com/elite-dangerous-players-have-only-explored-0003-percent-of-the-galaxy/

[@garrettthefrank1903]

@@cypheir of course, you can still get a wonderful feeling of scale in both

[@david-alexandrehauben2403]

Can you please never stop making these videos? They're seriously interesting.

[@lordtelion]

When he uses an image of the moon painted orange to show mars: 14:42

[@ronaldli5]

Orange moon is mars.

[@xweert711]

I just want to say that this was an incredible way of visualizing the vastness of space. You did a fantastic job with this video.

[@grahamhill676]

I think Elite Dangerous captures it perfectly. I believe its a 1:1 scale of certain features of our Galaxy too!

[@pxolqopt3597]

Space Engine is a 1:1 scale of the whole universe.

[@Waldherz]

Just way less moons etc. Elites solarsystems are much more empty then the real ones. And i think their planets are smaller too. You cant really know since you cant visit most of them xd

[@MetalRenard]

Thank you for diversifying, keep up the space busting!

[@doodihealz7369]

so glad i found this channel! Keep it up dude!

[@williams8977]

Man... I remember these videos. I love this channel and the nostalgia is hitting hard.

[@whoameister]

Best channel related with this game, keep on going

[@gabrielthatcher7917]

You deserve so much more subscribers, keep it up homeslice!

[@kellinr2407]

Very new to the channel, but great quality stuff man. Can't wait to see this channel grow.

[@AndrewmanGaming]

Welcome!

[@amazingguy4391]

We need more channels like this. There aren't enough people just filming what they love and trying to share it anymore.

[@Waldherz]

There are. You need to look closer :)

[@universetailer]

ı love space busters series keep going man you doing great :D

[@RB--kp7bs]

It would be interesting if they made a "realistic" mode with those distances for supercomputers.

[@Vinnocentus]

I wish the planets could be this big in Space Engineers...

[@hydrocarbon8272]

Ringworld references such 'unbelievable scale' several times, as does The Expanse. Ironically...it's hard to believe until seeing it like this! Another funny thing about distance, one server had a bugged anti-greifer system that increased the 5 km spawn distance. A friend spawned in and said "What does 1.24 LS mean?" Turns out he was placed 230,000 KM from Terra, or 1.24 light-seconds. 115 jumps with 1 jump drive, 11.5hrs recharging...

[@mouhaahaahaa]

i loved this

[@Tychsen90]

I like how you emphasize the real distance being 384k km between earth and the moon, but brush over the last 600k on the 54m km between mars and earth

[@XPACT3]

Good video, but what caught my eye is that there is a major flaw representing it as 1/3 of the Earth, it is a sphere after all, while circumference certainly is linear function, area and volume are exponentially getting bigger, so the actual Earth would have area that is around 7 times of this one and more importantly volume that is almost 22 times bigger... Just wrote it down because I can see some people try to imagine it in their head (and I don't blame them) as 3 times of that on the video while in reality it would occupy almost 22 times more space than the one represented here, so generally it is good practice to compare 3D objects by volume

[@AndrewmanGaming]

Yes, that is a good point. Real Earth is soooo much larger than even this 1/3 representation. It's weird how huge Earth actually is... until you look at it from the perspective of Jupiter. Then it's scary how small it is XD

[@XPACT3]

@@AndrewmanGaming Yep, but then again Jupiter is small compared to the Sun but on the other end we have VY Canis Majoris where light needs 8 hours to travel around its circumference. Fascinating stuff indeed :)

[@Lodomirov]

Great channel.

[@TheMostSlyFox]

^^^^

[@StarAIwolf]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[@MisterLambda]

I am curious to what would happen if you tried constructing a bridge around an entire planet or moon so that it makes a loop, then blow up all the supports at once. Which way would it fall? It couldn't fall downwards since downwards is upwards on the opposite side of the celestial body, so would it simply float in place? Perhaps it would start spinning? Who knows. Maybe something you could explore in a future video.

[@specter86fl]

for some references to real life, our actual moon is about one quarter the size of earth.

[@Riff.Wraith]

to be fair the speed of light in space engineers is 50 meters per second

[@user-xh9pu2wj6b]

What? How did you get that number?

[@simonfrohlich7766]

It most definitively is not though...

[@Comicsluvr]

When Planets were first introduced, some players complained about how 'small' planets were. I challenged a few of them to land on a planet, turn off all forms of signal, and find each other. They never even saw each other. 120 KM is HUGE when you consider a flight speed of 100 m/s. One cubic kilometer would yield so much stone and other materials that you'd need 100 Refineries to ever get through it.

[@AndrewmanGaming]

Absolutely. The size of the SE planet says less about the size of the SE world and more about how massive irl Earth is. Although you did just give me an idea for a video. Space Engineers hide and seek anyone?

[@johnbastion747]

This seems like a neat server idea, if downscaled a bit ofcourse. Imagine a server with only 1 Planet and surrounding it is a very thick belt of Astroids preventing large ships going through. And beyond that are dangers.

[@lumi3089]

Your videos are soo good

[@redpug5042]

i'd love to see a game that is real scale (or maybe half or quarter to make it a bit easier) and has real orbit physics, basically KSP, but with more interactive ships that you can really go inside of and walk around in and explore.

[@Cr4sHOv3rRiD3]

You should put real photo of Earth taken from actual real moon in comparison with the view in game at 14:50 That would look Epic, I think almost the same as real one :D

[@vashcrimson4395]

love it, measure everything in AES (Andrew Europa Scale).

[@devonkubacki1088]

2:55 look out for an optical illusion when he stops zooming(look at center of planet)

[@johnhall4587]

travelling to the moon passing Europa reminded me of "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds"

[@lachs6090]

Space Engineers is simply a very awesome Game.

[@abc123owyz]

Man, I hope one day space engineers will start looking into planets this big!

[@AndrewmanGaming]

A new engine would be needed to run the game. Maybe in 5 years or so we'll have a similar game to SE with real-sized planets.

[@abc123owyz]

Here we go SE 2!

[@urfork1]

the size of planets is something ive actually really struggled with, coming from having mostly played elite dangerous and kerbal space program, I expected the planets to be more like kerbal size, IIRC 10x less than the size of earth. even in real solar system mod, it wasn't so substantially different that I couldn't adapt easily. but this game, ive crashed my ship so many times due to gravity being basically impossibly high on such a tiny planet. you can see in the moon section just how long it takes you to reach the ground, whereas on a small planet, when your whole screen is covered the same way it was when you approached the moon, you're already far too late and are going to crash. the game performed much closer to what i intuitively expect in real life when you approached the moon than when you approach a space engineers vanilla planet

[@LocusChronos]

What did you use to make the larger earth, I want to do something like this myself.

[@thecommenternobodycaresabout]

This is what made me reconsider playing a game with maps with 1:1 scale. I frequently play Arma 3 and Altis, one of the original maps of the game is based of Lemnos, a Greek island, on a 3/4:1 scale and driving from the middle of the map to another place, even at high speeds, takes so long that makes ground transportation really boring. Not to mention going on foot. Even if you are 1km away from your destination you are tempted to use a vehicle and go full speed. The only reason I refuse to take a helicopter to go to my destination is because of how easy of a target it is to destroy even with a simple RPG, not to mention proper Anti Aircraft weapons, especially when descending. I am going to measure the time you can get there with a fast ground vehicle, such as an Offroad and see how much time it will take and let you know. EDIT: So, uh, I did the experiment and found out a few things: a)Reckless driving is lethal b)Arma 3 is not a racing game c)An offroad can reach 202km/h and speed through corners at 40km/h The road length should be around 40km, it's 30km on a straight line, and I was with an average speed of 120km/h, minimum being 35 on some tight corners and 201 top speed for a good minute or two, twice on the run. That being said, after 10 failed attempts going full throttle at all times, I decided to slow down on parts I am not confident speeding through and go full speed on straights and small corners and took me 16'17.77" to complete it. Also, the brakes were useless after a certain speed and had to be very careful how far away from the turn I was using them. Pointless but fun. TL;DR: 1:1 scale large maps are really long to be enjoyable when traveling. Using an Offroad that had top speed 200km/h and with an average speed of 120km/h it took 16 minutes and 17.77 seconds to complete it with cautious driving after failing to complete it with reckless driving. Pointless but fun.

[@gamelord9243]

how do you spawn those big planets? im trying to make a scenario with planets only 2-3 times larger than normal but while there is plenty of content showing people using these large planets, I can never find out how they spawn them in. is there a mod or plugin you're using?

[@TheXLAXLimpLungs]

600 hours just like the rescue mission in Elite Dangerous just carried out.

[@amandadewar9374]

You should've added the Vsauce jingle. YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY!!!!! ARE YOU INSANE?!!

[@MekDog69]

Space engineers player: Space is Big! Me: *Laughs in Kerbal space program*

[@alkhemia23]

interesting enough if you look at pictures from Apollo 11 it look about the same since you kept the full scale

[@ruarrischoeman2133]

Him: “Random Lag” Also Him: Has 35x bigger planet behind him.

[@hyperforce]

add an eve-online warp drive tunnel effect to that travel to the moon :)

[@luckylmj]

for anyone who wants more of a perspective, i'd recommend either looking at the game Universe Sandbox, or Space Engine (which contain to-scale representations of the real solar system)

[@MBKill3rCat]

The largest planet you can make in Space Engineers without SE Toolbox is 120 km diametre. The real-life diametre of Ceres, a dwarf planet in the asteroid belt, is 946 km. The planets in SE are smaller than many asteroids we've discovered.

[@kielzari]

so whats the biggest planet that space engineers can support that still looks and functions well?

[@mattd5857]

"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space." - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

[@wildwesternaustralian4357]

id be fine with planets in space engineers being maybe 2 or 3 times bigger than the ones we currently got (obviously not even close to real scale). itd also be good to try n fit in more scenarios whether itd be oceans, mountains, or even just flat surfaces

[@OctoBooze]

Which button combo teleports you to the spec camera?

[@oliverandom6808]

How did you manage to do this? With a mod? :P

[@Reth_Hard]

KSP is also using smaller planets, except the KSP's Real Solar System mod renders correctly...

[@Theodinator01]

Wish that SE was optimized to the point where we could have real scale planets and things like this. And massive amounts of grids to go with it too.

[@jpnrndr7983]

Andrew you wont crash your game, the devs dont want large planets "I think they are planning to make it a dlc lmao"

[@ivanatanasov8180]

Extraordinary, amazing game !!! for thrue fans ;)

[@Omlet221]

Let’s use Europa as a distance measurement. One Europa= 10,000 kilometers

[@AndrewmanGaming]

Haha yeah, cuz we needed some sort of marker! Without it, you can't tell how fast we're traveling.

[@vorname1485]

can you test what size can be rendered correct max?

[@jimmyjohn5970]

How did you manage to increase the size ?

[@spectre8115]

I just did the math when you said 600 hours and it equals 25 days. I like the videos by the way.

[@AndrewmanGaming]

25 days of straight up flying. Just to get to the Moon! This is the reason Keen reduced all of the distances in SE.

[@MrPablosek]

I wonder how long would it take with a jump drive

[@rosenvitae]

According to the web, the Juno probe broke the record as the fastest man made object, Clocking in briefly at 266.000km/h (73,8 km/s), putting your approximate 900 km/s to perspective.

[@meyaenyo2593]

Honestly in real life most people still can't grasp just how huge the Earth is. It's so big that people legitly think it's flat.

[@erumaaro6060]

Damn, the regular planet fits inside the atmosphere of the big one... Also, do you happen to know the max planet size before the rendering gets glitchy, and the maximal distance where planets are rendered?

[@kiawinwinspec1865]

What music was that in the beginning?

[@AntiKipKay]

I await the day when our home computers will be powerful enough to render full planets but I probably won't live that long

[@DarylFroggy]

Well the speed in vanilla space engineers tops out around 100 m/s or ~223 mph so of course it would take a ridiculous amount of time to travel from Earth to the Moon if they were 1:1 scale in both size and distance. It took the Apollo astronauts 3 days and they were traveling ~11 km/s or ~24,000 mph.

[@ralseithelonely]

Fun actual fact: You can fit every planet in our solar system between Earth and Moon.

[@Splendid_Badger]

do you want some Europa with that? :)

[@taylormelton5264]

Space is big *citation needed*

[@Kilovotis]

Over 4,000 KM? That is the distance between Mini - Earth, and Alieneesia!

[@rekrn12345]

I am hoping for a space engineers 2 at some point with a vastly improved engine that can handle larger planets and actual orbital dynamics.

[@buttermuffin800]

I feel like that would ruin the game in many ways. I only wish that there was a larger speed limite and a small amount of reentry heating. ALso, I would hope for the gravity of a planet to go out a little bit farther.

[@urlocalkevin3733]

Space Engine is a great game/program to show reallife size or so. And it's free xD

[@lorddeisdedraco]

how did you create such a large size?

[@muhammedabdurrahmantopcu4073]

Make a ring around the planet ( surface or orbit its up to you )

[@blipzero]

how do you spawn plantes please ?

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

The largest size world space engineers can handle is something like 8x8 astronomical units

[@gorgofdoom]

you COULD put mars 1/3 realistic distance from earth.The game engine can handle it. Do I want this in my game? no, not really.

[@Reginald-Erasmus]

with a rough guess id say your travel speed to the big moon was about 408,000m/s - +/- 1.5 million km/h

[@majorphysics3669]

lol, 120km is how far away our cabin is, takes an hour and 10 minutes to drive (ish)

[@RowDyer]

How do u do the spawn planets

[@umbrellacorporation8932]

Man is amazing I love it where 8 can put in my match that planet hoy can I spawn it?

[@gidoiurafael]

this is fine

[@emericalizond4917]

I was crunching the numbers so it would take 25 days from earth to the moon but then I realized that the earth was 1/3 size so I did 25 divided by 3 to get 8.33 and then the moon was 1/3 so 8.33 divided by 3 to get 2.777 days to get to the moon which is coincidently the amount of time it takes to get to the moon roughly. So the sizes are pretty accurate 10/10. The more you know.

[@peanutbuddasoulja3817]

Just a thought but iv been envisioning a landing ship but one that is made to crash into the planet without upward thrusters. Maybe like a battering ram. I bet there is some consistancy so you could get it to break to a certain pre determined place.

[@AndrewmanGaming]

You want to land a ship by crashing it? Sounds interesting!

[@stewb1409]

@@AndrewmanGaming Setup your wheels right and you can crash at any speed into a planet surface. The key is splitting one set of wheels to being soft suspension and the other set to hard suspension so they work in tandem - one absorbs the bulk of the landing and the other lets the ship gently down the rest of the way. At most on a 18 wheeled vehicle, I lost 4 wheels because they weren't quite aligned right. It also required you to line up the wheels with the ground so they all hit at once, but it's still possible.