Space Engineers #7: Ice Mining

[@cg5469]

Once the pistons are fully extended I drop the drill set by grinding the connection. Then I raise the pistons/fix them and add some tubes and a two merge blocks - carefully lower the new setup back down and you can mine an entire new depth without disassembling the whole thing.

[@danjal87nl]

"That's what being an engineer is all about - you start building something, a problem arises. And now you have to figure out how to deal with that problem." Yea, and because when you're a hammer? All you see is nails? An engineer's solution is: "Hey, I can build something for that!" Course that's what makes these kinds of games fun. There's always another problem to solve.

[@Amanda-dg3nv]

Put wheels on it boom u can move it

[@HB-pe1nv]

I mean,thats how weels work right?

[@aidanaustin5926]

CLANG is typing

[@MrWolf1424]

@@aidanaustin5926 add landing gear and wheels when you want to move away unlock landing gear raise suspension after ur in new spot lover suspension lock landing gears

[@freedomfighter2054]

"I did some digging" (300 mile hole in background) THAT IS NOT SOME.

[@nuclearphoenix177]

I’ve started space engineers recently and have had the same issue with getting enough ice, I’ve done the same large drill design but probably 20 more drills wide, I decided to use solar, wind and batteries to power it all to help save a little extra ice

[@mrg3tty672]

Never fail to find inspiration whenever I search SE videos. Cool mining rigs man.

[@tassix278]

This is the only video I’ve found useful explaining timer blocks

[@Illusiqn1st]

Well they are useful everywhere: any script requires a timer block.

[@ChefofWar33]

@@Illusiqn1st Read that comment closer.

[@taemien9219]

This is effectively how I do most of my mining on planets. My rigs aren't quite as fancy or automated. They use pretty much a single turbine for power (if in atmosphere) and a quarter of the drills. Instead of using a cross pattern to get a level done in a quarter of a rotation, it uses a full rotation. I haven't had the rotor head pop off yet. But I wonder if this is due to the pistons being added to the head instead of the rotor added to the pistons. I manually set the pistons to drop down about 2-2.5m at a time. So if there is two pistons, they go down 1m each. If I have 5 than its 0.5m each. Rotor speed needs to be setup so its not too fast this way however. Usually around 0.5-0.8 RPM. Less the more drills being used. If I'm doing this over rock instead of ice/water, then I'll use a sorter linked to a connector designed to throw out everything and then white list by stone. For every 1M kg of ore you get, you'll likely see 5M kg of stone which isn't normally what you want. DNG's method shown here is way way faster. The method I use is simply a necessity due to materials available. Of course the biggest issue is transporting ore/ice mined. I've been using a small ship large (5x5) eight wheeled rover with 3 large cargo boxes. But will likely be switching to a large ship type sometime in the future. Another advancement I'll be doing is for some of the deepest ores. I'll be using two sets of vertical pistons. One to raise the height of the entire rig to fit more pistons going down. And retract those pistons as the drill pistons need to go deeper. Right now for most surface deposits 4 pistons is good enough to hit things about 45m down. But to get down to 60-80m you need 6 to 8 and the whole thing starts getting really tall. A hassle even with jetpacks on to build. As for people saying to make this mobile.. I've done that before. But I don't know if its worth it. Pertam and Europa is probably good for wheels, and Mars for atmospheric thrusters (due to lower gravity). But we're talking having the need to be able to move upwards of millions of kg of ore/ice at 0.6-1.2G. I'd imagine those of you who can make vehicles that do this easily may have better mining techniques already.

[@jacoboverbo6856]

Using your rotor drill concept, I made a drill tram with auto welders. Each episode I watch, I see something new I can toss in my builds. Thank you for the excellent source materials!

[@Little_Skyz]

I'm not entirely sure why this came up in my recommended, but now it'll be coming up in my subscriptions

[@spurton9556]

Wow, that looks eerie. Just a huge mining rig abandoned in a shaft that goes for about a mile.

[@ChronoGamerOne]

Normally I despise intros, but yours gave me a great sample of the games that you play that I also play and did a great job of promoting your content. Subbed. Good job!

[@MFKR696]

I've been in situations where a minute seems like an eternity. You know what they say... The watched pot never boils.

[@brunoks6951]

27:26 I demand a 10 hours version of this montage, jesus this is relaxing to watch...

[@REDARROW_A_Personal]

For anyone interested the song at 27:34 is Surround Me by Kevin Andersson.

[@sander4916]

Life safer

[@mukkaar]

Man, Minecraft really started whole new genre of first person building games :D After it became popular, building elements started popping up in new games like crazy.

[@anumeon]

"Call that a drill?" 'produces this creation' "Now this, this is a drill" :D

[@mrmeadors4661]

I made the ice rig that you made except for the hole mine left took 32 large blocks to reach the center. My friend turned around and saw a massive monstrosity with 120 drills on it covered in wind turbines.

[@1x_rj_x1]

When I am in need of ice, I just make a flying pancake with drills all over the bottom.

[@D3DPrints]

at the beginning of the video the contrast in the dark and light makes it fun to move my phone

[@reneBrandy]

It is so satisfying to watch that thing go down.

[@wizzard4003]

The red experimental mode box can be turned off in the shift-F1 menu

[@wizzard4003]

also nice rig

[@victorsykes5334]

It's cool to see what an ACTUAL ENGINEER does. Stay cool Rich!

[@jenswilke3600]

Naming? A core driller? That would of course be the "Corilla", dude.

[@kjer3292]

Why did I want to say it in the way the Japanese said GODZILLA in the originals?

[@davidshaw7549]

Tyrannocoreus Rex....

[@Snoogen11]

Lol, as he was shooting down the tunnel I was like: "Is he gonna slow down? Is he gonna slow down?! Is he gonna slow down?!! Nope. he's dead." Had a good laugh at that.

[@RacinJsn]

Just set your pistons to something really low. I use 24 stacked pistons set at .0005, and the rotor at 1rpm. Digs 200+m with no timer block. (2 pistons down, conveyor tube back up, rinse repeat to 24 pistons. About 12 blocks tall for the pistons and rotor.)

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

You could also work with a sensor that is detecting the subgrid and every time one of the 4 arms passes, the max distence for the pistons is increased.

[@jrodificator1]

I've done slightly smaller rigs at .1 m/s at a really high RPM, like 30 or so.

[@7T_Primal_Wolf]

I don't know why, but I'd love to see this ice drill shrunk down just a bit for a ship & have the drills on all surfaces turning the way you got that ice drill goin', lol

[@lexguttman]

Watched the opening, saw the game selection, heard the music. Gave the man a sub.

[@Kami8705]

I know this is an old episode, but I'm rewatching the series. Why not build a digger just like you did for tunneling, but with the drills below instead of above, and just have it work its way across the lake. Also, for the digger that's making the tunnel, why not put several "cars" on it, each of which gets larger, and the last one just builds the walls and floor. That would reduce the weight issue, and the later ones could run on the same track. The last one could even grind down the conveyors if you wanted.

[@moneyl6594]

Would be neat if you mounted the drill on a ship that you could repeatedly land and lower. That way you wouldn't need to rebuild the thing every time you wanted to move it or have it dig deeper

[@therealsourc3]

I tend to mount the rotor and pistons on top, then after I reach the depth of the pistons (here it's 2x10 meters) I add just as many conveyor tubes to extend the thing, then I mount all the drills again.. If you make it a ship, you can't attach some things.. Also for power; why not just go for a bunch of wind turbines on the top of the thing? Free power from day 1..

[@Krab17]

@@therealsourc3 honestly a solar farm with a solar optimization script would be way more efficient than anything else. But this is honestly just because you can do it. Hydrogen Gens are terrible in every way, unless you need emergency power and have no atmosphere, or a charged reserve battery.

[@RacinJsn]

I rebuild the arm, but I ferry the drill setup from site to site with a couple of merge blocks and a craft with 6 large thrusters for lift.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

Regarding that truck, I like to use pistons, hinges, and connectors to pass power and inventory between grids that were build separate from each other.

[@RenegadechefxMBR]

Well...I’ve never played this game but that was pretty cool to watch. Right on man. Side note: Love how you handle the people who tell you how to play a game YOU paid money for. Got my sub dude. 👍

[@lucasclaes7869]

i have watched so many of ur videos they always pop up on my recomended, its verry interesting aswell, you really deserve more subscribers!

[@Ziplock9000]

22:51 At that point, you should have filled that large hydrogen tank about 5 times over with the amount of material you've mined.

[@ninjajagyr]

just realized your base is located in the exact same lake as mine

[@erivanel]

We've all had a base there at some point

[@chaoslordgodzilla2708]

Your logo looks a lot like the dragon I drew yesterday now that’s what I call a destiny

[@bucketofseaweeb6498]

On the downside it takes forever to construct takes a heck ton of resources and it’s slow But on the upside I guess it’s great for making underground bases and collecting whatever’s In the way of its helicopter blade that spins at 1 revolution every 2 minutes

[@kylemilford8758]

He collected 11million kg of ice in a few minutes of it running though, compared to me manually taking my drill ship & getting 100kg in a minute and having to dock

[@Taemien]

@@kylemilford8758 Pretty much this. Personally I use platforms like this for normal mining. Though my drill configuration is 1/4 of this. I just shoot a piston down and do a radius of drills rather than a diameter in a cross pattern. Takes 1/4 the resources at the cost of 1/4 the time. However there's nothing more efficient than that. Especially if you're established enough to put thrusters on such a platform to make it reusable.

[@TheBarretNL]

3:05 OOehhhhhhhhhhh CLANG PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP .... I still have a giggle when I see it happen hehe ;)

[@spartan456]

You can double the distance it digs down by adding two inverted vertical pistons on each "leg". In fact, you can increase the depth by an order of magnitude just by increasing the number of pistons too. 10x depth? 10x more pistons. The inverted ones are especially useful because they help make the whole rig more compact. Those start fully extended so the platform is as high as it can possibly be, then slowly retract until they bottom out, at which point the downward-facing pistons can take over and start pushing the whole assembly deeper. Might take some trial and error to find a good timer sweet spot for those inverted pistons, though. Would probably be easier to just write a script in this case. I know this video is months old but I thought I'd drop my two engineering cents for my homies in the comment section.

[@ScarletFlames1]

Inverted ones mean you have too offset them from the center though, which either means you need to add a second piston on the other side or let the thing wobble like Jello on a broken washing machine.

[@madkuya9862]

It hurts to see all that Ice get destroyed. at 27:58 all 3 kontainers are full already. since storage 1 was already 100% full the moment you looked. and once the drills are full. all the ice just got destroyed. that would have ben enaugh ice to fill at least 20 Large Containers. I skiped to 30:33. i must corect myself i asume that hole is big enough for 50 Large containers full of Ice. oh boy.

[@DragonNationGaming]

That's why there are backup saves

[@ryanokeeffe257]

I would do every second drill a conveyor as they will still cut I would also just have 1/4 of that as a row of drills and let it rotate, it's all coming through 1 piston anyway Would also put it on wheels so you can move it in future If you ctrl + click on the number you can set the piston speed even slower Great vid

[@aciarduce]

Now we just have to figure out how to attack the assembly to a mobile platform so we can reposition it and make new circles everywhere.

[@JustGlennBE]

You could see it go down at 24:25 just before you poped up the inventory.

[@itsjustrogue7519]

Built this on a modded playthrough it got destroyed by Orks 5 mins after I got it running 😢

[@skeng3260]

space engineers.. crossed with satisfactory. now that would be insane

[@DragonNationGaming]

It would make it a much better game. People keep talking about Space Engineers 2. It's just a rumor but let's hope that the devs have seen Satisfactory.

[@ablaze1989]

@@DragonNationGaming I think the name for that game is starbase lol, google it its gonna be a great game.

[@mountainmanfab]

part of the problem is that unless you use the better hydrogen engine mod or something similar (either more efficient engine or better hyd/ox generators) it takes 2 large generators to keep up with a single large engine so if ya run 1/1 you only store hydrogen when the engines are off...workable with power management mods but a royal pita without

[@HaD89]

27:48 1.00x Speed - Liquid/Chillout 1.25x Speed - Dance 1.50x Speed - Club 1.75x Speed - Nightcore

[@ShnoopsDogg]

thats awesome x)

[@thejester-king4135]

55 by 55 large grid cubes is 137.5 meters in diameter

[@alonecomplexe]

the end could be a part of "oddly satisfying" xD

[@andrew.mp4311]

damn I didn't know that the entire nation of dragon's made a gaming channel

[@awonderingoneil206]

This is satisfying.

[@thewootpanda]

This is a actual awesome idea. I love it

[@thatdirtyninja5829]

ive got 400 hours into this game, and ive never been able to set modules in the ground like that..how in the world did you set them in the ice perfectly like that?

[@DragonNationGaming]

That's how the placement works. Maybe I just don't understand what you're asking

[@thatdirtyninja5829]

@@DragonNationGaming nahh im just a dummy, it seems it works for me on ice and on the moon, just on normal ground it sets the blocks on top of the soil for some reason

[@AenesidemusOZ]

corey harrison Large blocks will be set into the ground, alignment depending on your 'B' option, and small blocks will just appear and drop to the ground.

[@Meanspoon]

ive only watched 1 eppisode and in already obsessed

[@grandmasterweebsensei9514]

6:04 ships can land give you materials and you can maybe make it a station

[@usefulcanine1912]

No offense but you sound like the narrator from How it’s made.

[@mrpancake8889]

Oh my goodness it’s so strange but awesome lmao

[@champion3433]

Why no offense that sounds like a compliment lol

[@bajablast42069]

where was the offense

[@NeroSurvives]

What's the name of the song that you used in the drilling part

[@KubaAirs]

Surround Me - Kevin Andersson

[@denholmmccormick5549]

Quick question how did you set up the timers? Never used them before and am confused on how to set them up

[@0623kaboom]

a suggestion to modify this ice miner ... on each support upright top it with a fully extended piston when you build it ... then you can lower that to start the hole ... and then use the drill head pistons to extend it deeper ... this will allow you to dig all the ice sheet and get minerals as well if they appear ... the other option from going in circles is rebuild your inch worm miner and have set to do some number of repeats then lift it on wheeled pistons and reposition it and let it run again .. then you are essentially doing a computerized ice farming of a very large chunk of ice and minerals as they appear in between each reset manually add a connection to the new line and poof your piped all the way around you can also build a huge landing pad or platform over it all and launch to space from there or build a factory for building vehicles etc

[@twerkingtwinkies2335]

You almost said "dramastically" which is awesome anyways lol great vid. Just got this game. I feel like a caveman when i play it lmao I'll get there. Might take a year tho

[@Mr76Pontiac]

Instead of dick'n around with timers, what I would have done is tagged on sensors. Configure the sensors so that they're keeping an eye on the ground. If they aren't seeing ground, turn the pistons on. If they see ground, turn the pistons off. No timing, no babysitting. As already said by Hadien, you've already filled up your cargo containers with ice, PROBABLY off just the first rotation.

[@matthewwallin6605]

Hey, it would be cool if you gave us a tiny info as to the total power usage, ore/stone outputs, etc in case we plan to do similar projects

[@akiraic]

I doubt this is efficient tho, not even 2/4 of the ice went to the cargo, I bet. The rotation speed needs to increase (yield/s) OR the amount the pistons lowers need to increase (increasing yield/s) OR the number of drills needs to decrease (removing 1 yes 1 no should solve it). This "just scraping the surface" does not provide a good ratio of input/output.

[@kylemilford8758]

I mean he did get 11million KG on his first 2 minutes

[@AmericanThunder]

I built a big wheeled drilling machine, and I gather ice by doing high speed doughnuts over the frozen lakes. lol Fun and efficient. Why carry the ice to the base? Just build a bunch of O2/H2 generators at the ice dig site and fill many hydrogen tanks on site. Make it a refueling station for ships to dock and get hydrogen.

[@sammorgan31]

Wouldn't it have been more material efficient to do just one stick of drills with some sort of counterweight opposite it?

[@Caffin8tor]

I finally upgraded from my little laptop to a desktop with a proper GPU that'll run SE on something better than minimum settings. Maybe next time you're doing an open game, I'll be able to jump in again.

[@roymuerlunos2426]

3:10 ... 0 Days without -incident- Dragon Derps.

[@conradflying]

Damn Rich its nice to see how much your channel has grown buddy!

[@jPlanerv2]

Is it weird that i re watched this montage 5 times?

[@alpha_knugen8335]

how are your drills drilling so smothly? i did try this but like 5 long to each side the drills starts shaking.

[@DragonNationGaming]

Turn off tool shake. It's pointless

[@MrSN99]

why do you use junctions for the X above the hole instead of tubes?

[@everythingpony]

Hey, thanks for the end song, helped me with my wife*

[@skyfiremoon4030]

What is the name of the end song?

[@swiftbow2110]

Nice music at the end.

[@phearedphantom]

Seems impratical to build something like that and it not be mobile

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh5832]

All he has to do is add wheels or thrusters boom

[@randomguyoninternetidk4014]

He can use it for stone mining too.

[@Yamahmoto]

Where tf do the clicks come from? I remember watching this when it just came out.

[@lucasleepwalker7543]

tbh this is the best intro i have ever seen

[@TikTrendToks]

i love skipping it.

[@GreyKnightsVenerable]

Huh, this episode has massive amounts more views than normal

[@idontunderstandhumour2978]

I don't know this dude i got this recommended

[@brunoks6951]

That montage at the end, i think it got people attention. An friend of mine send me this video because of the music.

[@JP-xd6fm]

But How the hell you turn on the drills? I only can do it from a ship by setting a command

[@frozenheroe3771]

Any control panel attached to the same grid will give you access like he did by going through the piston's control panel

[@dtn8_.]

How about "Hole Plower 9000"?

[@namecorrupted6320]

Now you can put ice in your ice ☕

[@williamalfredpaul9763]

3:07 is just awesome

[@brndn2208]

Haha yea I’ve killed my self like that so many times!

[@champion3433]

A conveyer to space holy hell lol

[@Delgado918]

i saw it intro was like "IM SUBSCRIBING NOW" BECAUSE THATS AL THE GAMES I LOVE

[@maxdefire]

Dunno, still prefer mining drones. Yeah, a little bit of programming but way cheaper to setup.

[@nitrous146]

I'll admit I'm intrigued

[@maxdefire]

​@Timber Wolf While it is possible to produce quite basic drones with automation for patrol purpose, it's a bit of a challenge to make two or more drones behave as coordinated army. Definitely way more complicated programming.

[@maxdefire]

​@Timber Wolf I might had not answer for the exact question. As fas as I remember, there are tons of scripts already writen in steam workshop for mining, patroling, mass drivers, guided missiles, even basic fleet formations (it's a space game after all, more about space exploration and encounters than planets, for me at least). Maybe some of them need a bit of tweaking for match your own goals, most of them provide at least base playground, so you may not be too expiriensed in programming to implenets some code in your creations.

[@Evergoody]

why didnt you show the timer settings??

[@jawa8472]

Holy shit Rich. Another god damn upload? You been going crazy bro.

[@bitfighterrosemoor797]

let youtube process the video first, come back in a hour and you have a good version, bro

[@jawa8472]

@@bitfighterrosemoor797 tf u going on about. I'm talking about him uploading so frequently.

[@bitfighterrosemoor797]

@@jawa8472 Sorry, my brain read that as, the upload was in a bad picture quality. Sorry my bad, brain is tired.

[@pink_thing1]

I'm sorry but what the fresh fuck was that intro lmao

[@IRJesoosVidya]

one cargo container filled with 11 million, not 11 thousand. And all in the time for it to be setup. Those other two cargo containers would have filled in like 5 minutes, so the other hour you left it mining was likely wastedddd

[@DragonNationGaming]

Good thing it was just a test.

[@IRJesoosVidya]

​@@DragonNationGaming Yeah, of course, just giving you a heads up for when it's not a test.

[@rahalex231]

Can someone tell me what song that is at the end? Really like it.

[@brandondallaire]

But why waste time with timer blcks? Simply put the pistons on a lower speed, then let them work

[@Renard380]

You can't set a speed lower than 0.05m/s which is already too fast for this project, but there are three stacked pistons so their speeds add up to 0.15m/s 😂

[@brandondallaire]

@@Renard380 ? Pistons can be set to 0.0001 m/s

[@brucejohnson1264]

Hydrogen engines are super inefficient. Since you are on earth, why not just use wind? Or nuclear power. I think you ave too many drills. The outer ones need to go very slow, and if you slow the rotor down the inner ones will go far far too slow. It's an inherent flaw with that design. You will also run out of depth too fast. Instead, use a horizontal piston at the bottom of the hole and increase the diameter once you get the initial hold drilled. This way, all the drills move the same speed, and will be far more efficient. This technique also works well for ore deposits, as they tend to be in layer with a lot of overburden. Drill a shaft, and carve out a disk at the layer of the deposit by increasing the diameter. This avoids having to process a ton of extra stone.

[@rllyshyguy8766]

"use nuclear" *uranium that can be found only on the space*: I'am a joke to you? Also hydrogen engines aren't that bad, if you know how to properly use them ofc.

[@Hubie9000]

Since you have 4 arms you should lower the Piston every quarter turn cuz right now they are just going over the same spot that's been mined 3 additional times

[@DragonNationGaming]

That's exactly what it does. I even say that in the video.

[@synka5922]

why not going for a big amount of wind turbines, they are the best way to make energy...

[@DragonNationGaming]

Because in the video the hydrogen generators were knew to me and I wanted to try them out.

[@wolfpuc2379]

This is the first video i watched. I Enjoyed it, the intro is very long tho

[@rewrew897]

I remember trying to use one with like 50 pistons Thing flopped everywhere and just decided to use a giant modded one

[@kristopherpickstone1758]

Everybody do the flop

[@vlallman4004]

Drill Bill and Ice Ice Baby

[@adamorick2872]

They need to rework hydrogen engines so they aren't so useless. They use to much fuel to be useful

[@standinonstilts]

If i remember correctly, it's only small hydrogen thrusters that are really inefficient. Like i think i read that large thrusters are 25x more efficient which is ridiculous. There are mods to address it though.

[@idkravitz]

@@standinonstilts I think he meant hydrogen engine that is a generator to provide electricity, not a thruster)

[@Maffegozer100]

Now the question is... What to do with all that ice. This could feed thousands of hydrogen engines.

[@x-ani4061]

I really really like this, but Its not very material friendly and I am very material poor. Nonetheless I am going to design something like this in my survival world so thanks for the idea!

[@2299momo]

Nobody talking about how he wasted all that ice because his containers were full? :(

[@DragonNationGaming]

Because it doesn't matter.

[@MFKR696]

Nobody cares.

[@DragonNationGaming]

@@polopup Because it doesn't matter.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

He said at the beginning, he just wanted enough to run his engines for the drilling rig.

[@MultiGamingNetwork03]

A year late but I learned a method (99% certain it was Splitsie who used this method) to get hydrogen a tiny bit easier. Use an H2 generator and a vent (Set the vent for depressurize). The air the vent collects will be turned to ice in the H2 generator, and the ice can then be used to stockpile Hydrogen tanks and engines. I use the method to stockpile my hydrogen fuel depot in my base. Plus it can be used on flying craft that use hydrogen engines.

[@jhoparta5236]

No, you can't.

[@MultiGamingNetwork03]

@@jhoparta5236 Yes, you can. Don't say I can't because I've done it as well and so has Splitsie (A Space Engineers KZbinr).

[@baballerz4339]

Hmmm. I just tried this, however, it doesn't seem to work. Try to find the video of Splitsie if you can, I wanna see this because it just breaks the game lmao

[@jhoparta5236]

@@MultiGamingNetwork03 steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/1642038659012718459/ No you can't.

[@RacinJsn]

In theory shouldn't a vent in atmosphere set to depressurize just fill an attached O2 tank? Also this game treats hydrogen tanks like they also contain the O2 to magically burn it in space without using O2 from those tanks.