Space Marine 2 Director Reveals Upcoming New Enemy Is A Real Threat

WellPlayed's Ash Wayling chats with Saber Interactive Creative Director Oliver Hollis-Leick about the future of Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2, discussing how the story came to be, what we can expect from upcoming co-op missions, new enemy types and even the hot demand for new classes within the game. Playable Chaplains, anyone?
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Welcome Oliver
03:40 - How Did Games Workshop Help The Dev Team
05:28 - Was It Easy Using Warhammer Models To Model The Game Monsters
06:56 - How Much Freedom Did Saber Have?
09:51 - How Have People Responded To The Story, And What Comes Next
11:47 - 'New Enemy' Means New Enemy UNIT, Not New Enemy FACTION
12:10 - The Upcoming New Enemy Will Challenge You
12:55 - So What Is The New Enemy?
13:34 - New Co-op Missions Will Address More Offscreen Story Beats
15:34 - Could We See Operations From A Different Tyranid War?
17:03 - A New Chapter Is Opening For Titus
18:29 - We Want To Paint Our Helmet Lenses!
20:30 - An Argument For Old-Style MK8 Helmets
23:53 - New Class Discussions - Chaplain And Librarian! Saber Has Added Classes To Games In The Past
27:15 - Master Chief Helped Bring Space Marine 2 To Life
Video edited by Ash Wayling ( / ashwayling )

[@gabzsy4924]

This director is the definition of the "he understood the assignment" meme. Awesome lad.

[@gabzsy4924]

Damn, what a down to earth, competent, civil, smart and humble director. I gained a new level of appreciation for this game and company. Congrats to the whole team.

[@Psilonauto]

Oliver seems the right guy in the right place. You can see he really respects the lore and audience. I see a bright future for Sabre if they can keep up the quality.

[@zerofour21]

The final mission of this game is up there with the greatest of all time. They literally blew their load in the best possible way

[@EnterTheFenix]

So good that the main antagonist dies in a cutscene...

[@sofaking1627]

This guy clearly loves 40k. As one of several hundreds of new fans, I just want to say thanks for giving us a great first entry into the 40k universe And a damn good game too with no BS

[@chunchoe]

They really nailed the sizing of space marine armor , even better than GW has done for their own armor in things like Tithes and other 3d animations theyve done. thats one super important thing is how they armor looks and feels in game most people get space marine armor wrong by making the boots comically oversized in comparison to the size of the thighs

[@mdtaranto]

I already loved the game, but the passion behind it and your passion during this interview really pushed it to a new level. Bravo!

[@ScipioTTV]

I love the video, but try to tone down the music in the background. At times, I couldn’t focus on what the director was saying

[@AshWayling]

You are dead right, I clearly missed a couple tracks when I did the background audio pass - Thanks for the feedback!

[@ScipioTTV]

@@AshWayling No problem mate, just one thing I noticed but loved everything else about the video! Keep up the phenomenal work

[@aragornarathorn3299]

speaking of music, anyone know the name of the soundtrack that starts at 13:20?

[@carstr9547]

@@aragornarathorn3299 ​ That is "No man´s land" from Space Marine 1. If you search for Space Marine 1 OST you will find perhaps the greatest gaming music ever made. Every track for that game is amazing, I can recommend the final track "A Heroes Legacy". It is so damn good. edit* Ah well here you go! :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKeXnJR7lL2ViJo

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

Someone tell me how someone with under2k subs gets an interview like this? asking for my own channel haha.

[@offtankgaming1310]

Oliver is all class, the team is so passionate and capable, and the game came out gloriously. Awesome interview!

[@sgtrpcommand3778]

Excellent questions by the interviewer, and excellent responses from the director. Hats off to them for making a brilliant sequel to SM1 and, especially after this interview, I'm very much looking forwards to seeing where they go with SM2.

[@AQS521]

Please add a librarian! It is the most unique between apothecary, chaplain, and tech marine! They could have psychic powers in place of grenades, as well as the obvious psychic ultimate ability. Maybe even psychic staves

[@D_ucky]

Especially since weve gotten to see it in both games now

[@brightestlight9462]

dont give them guns, just let their gun slot be a psychic power slot, same with secondary gun

[@whalenonfools]

@@brightestlight9462 swappable psychic power primary, pistol (inferno pistol??) secondary.

[@scuchtern4849]

Tech marine nah I feel like we need a Terminator instead 😂

[@wakkru]

Would also be the most logical because they already have the Chaos variant ingame (Thousand Sons Sorcerer)

[@colettemcdermott5677]

The ability to change the weapon load out of bots would be fantastic.

[@sofaking1627]

40k reminds me of my first roommate He was super into it, and we actually lived together back when Space Marine 1 came out. Looking back I realize I should have gotten into this sooner, it's amazing. Great game and a phenomenal way to bring in a host of new fans

[@Theicemonkeyjr]

So nice to see how genuine the devs are and how much they love 40k

[@Cozza69]

Thanks Oliver for giving us such an awesome game. Also submitted for mk8 helmets on the ideas page, hopefully one day brothers.

[@GimmeAweapon]

A genestealer would be cool as a new enemy

[@paytonkraft7564]

Agreed. That could also tie into a whole new scenario for the Operations mode. Example: Genestealer cult infestation.

[@RazorbackX99]

Space Hulk'ish horror operations? I'm all for it!

[@whalenonfools]

@@RazorbackX99 Feel like that's an obvious choice for a new multiplayer mode down the line.

[@Nosh_Feratu]

@@paytonkraft7564 oh man, how much do I want Genestealer Cult in this game!!! As a new faction they would be amazing and add so much, theyre a really nice close link to Tyranids aswell!!!!

[@The_Night_Haunter-VIII]

The Tyranid invasion is underway, so Genestealers would already be getting devoured along with the population. I wanna see more Tyranid units, Deathleapers, Winged Primes, Tyrant Guards, Swarm Lord, Norns, etc

[@settratheimperishable7800]

A Screamer Killer would be lush if we got that for Tyranids or seeing some Flamers of Tzeentch would be cool

[@joeschmoe5608]

Extremely well coordinated interview, great questions and good vibes!

[@MachineSpiritMelodies]

What some people really don’t understand about the tyrannids is that in the story. It was just a splinter fleet it’s not even the literal fleet of leviathan. So assuming like the director said that the tyrannids are magically gone is blasphemy because again the main fleet is not even present lol

[@nekomancer4641]

Fascinating interview! A lot of interestinf details

[@pietrVDS]

Lovely interview. And the shout out.... ❤

[@Sleepa9377]

I want to fight Necrons in this DLC. Imagine the operation squad coming back to the burial world because the tomb world that Titus discovered was "awakened" and we get to fight the following units: Flayed ones as the small melee horde like the hormagunts Skorpech destoryers as the majoris units like the warriors Necron warriors as the small shooting infintry like the small cultists and the termagunts A canoptek wraith and an ophidon destoryer like the ravenger and the lictor Either deathmarks or lokhust heavy destoryers as the snipers/heavy ranged Plasmancer as a buff unit/sentry like the zoanthrope For bosses, i wanna fight a skorpech lord, possibly a tomb stalker (because we saw some destroyed ones in the tomb world area in the campaign), and overlord with translocation shroud that would seem liem the main antagonist of the dlc, but then we discover a transendent ctun at the end and we also fight it similar to the helldrake boss fight in a way, or we fight both the overlord and the ctun shard similar to the imurah fight where the ctun is like the lord of change. If I were really wishful, i would want the ctun to be a shard of the void dragon. They're gonna mostly use newer necron models because they put tyranids in the game most likely because of the 10th edition leviathan box

[@abyssal-labs]

It’s important to remember that GW games workshop have and will limit things saver can do in game as they like to keep the story going in real time with the tabletop universe.

[@UwUnotewew]

This is an awesome interview, and great to see rather than all the wild rumours that seem to go round about games now that are then taken as fact.

[@Canigetanawwwwyyyyeeeah]

Actually having a conversation with the creator. Bless the onmissiah.

[@AWonderingTraveIer]

I doubt he will see this but one thing I thought would be cool and isn’t that big of a change is team executions, imagine downing a boss and all the boys climb on it to rip it apart or duel take downs like from the short animation, one space marine knocks the enemy down with a haymaker and your duo uses a rifle or pistol to finish it. I think the executions are probably the best part of the combat I really hope we get more animations for em

[@AWonderingTraveIer]

^^^ btw i know everyone constantly team executing could sound op since everyone gets shield and to remedy that make it so you can only team takedown when both people are completely out of shields or make it damage based if both players do a certain amount of damage to an enemy it should credit both of them the ability to initiate a team takedown I think it would turn big fights into a spectacle for the boys

[@Nineteen1900Hundred]

Excuse me Ash, I think you interrupted Oliver during most of his answers, made worse by the lag delay. I wish he was allowed to fully answer everything.

[@biglove98]

I feel regret and disappointment that the lead developer did not oversee the maps or design the PVE mode. Honestly, if Oliver Hollis-Leick had directed the PVE maps and gameplay design, we would definitely have seen more than just 3 players and much larger maps instead of those cramped alleyways. It’s hard to believe that someone who discovered Warhammer at the age of 13-16 wouldn’t understand the grandeur of war. This developer clearly knows about WWZ and how poorly the other developers performed. So, why on earth did they keep and hire that map director? I just don’t get it. It really undermines Oliver Hollis-Leick’s credibility, doesn’t it?

[@alBoomer19]

Such a great interview

[@ExileTwilight]

I was a little disappointed to have Necrons so heavily teased but not show up apart from destroyed canoptek drones. Wouldn't have been much room for them in what was left of course, but having some warriors show up to fire at both sides would have been neat.

[@Kenspiracy664]

They'll be coming surely

[@Pers0n97]

You mean Tomb Stalker, right?

[@warforge3850]

they should add a second and third loadout option like they have with weapons.

[@YaBoyYeti]

The real threat in this game: STUNLOCK!

[@Kaperion]

awesome interview!!!

[@morgymomo8535]

Great video! valrak sent me!

[@FedDonovan]

good interview .

[@sergiolol3439]

I’m in love with this game

[@trik6979]

The new enemy is gonna be tough no matter what, wanna know why? Our weapons are super underpowered.

[@rtgh2010]

Space marine 2 is my favourite game of 2024.

[@Wylde_Starr]

Great interview, music is a bit loud though

[@morexskulls7180]

They need to add the ability to change lens colour and the MK 8 helmet and other helmets no matter what BS GW say

[@2ndai385]

Where is the Beak Helemet for the Raven Guard

[@ChalkanCheese]

"A new enemy type. " Genestealers....? Daemons ? Chaos Terminators/? Eagerly await to see what's next.

[@tau-5794]

There are already chaos terminators, both melee and ranged variants.

[@ChalkanCheese]

@@tau-5794 Doh. Of course... Got carried away. Be nice if players could get Terminator armour.

[@clintbustwood4800]

@@ChalkanCheesewe need a space hulk genestealer infestation mission

[@ChalkanCheese]

@@clintbustwood4800oh god yes ! Now you're talking my language. The original board game was my introduction to Games Workshop and Citadel.

[@joone3303]

They shot by adding orks as anamy agean!

[@ZOMBiEmovieHD]

Way too much background music! This is an interview, not a concert. It’s so distracting and takes away from what’s being said. Let the content, not the noise, speak for itself. Focus on the conversation and insights, no need for all the extra noise.

[@Zankaroo]

I think a tech marine would be cool but i have no idea what they would do other than repair and fortify armor. Which Bulwark does already and the armor pick up. I just like robots/cyborgs so playing as a Iron Hand Tech Marine would be cool. To go along with that I would like to see a robotic cosmetic for the other 3 limbs.

[@tau-5794]

He could build a tarantula turret, as well as having a more passive armor regen buff instead of the rapid restore of the banner.

[@azzy9293]

​​@@tau-5794 don't know how i feel about turrets in pvp. Two tech Marines holding down a corridor with two turrets would be super annoying

[@tau-5794]

@@azzy9293 Then just limit "character" classes like tech marines and chaplains to one of each per team.

[@kevindeloria4537]

he would play well as the TF2 medic

[@SaintlySaavy]

My squad struggles with the base level still. 😂

[@tuskegeeace2840]

I want playable apothacaries

[@PoYi-fi1zt]

They are waiting for space marine 3 to have more enemy type.

[@ShanePhoenix5558]

Could the new enemy be a beast of nurgle? I’m new to 40k warhammer so I’m not sure if it would fit the game properly.

[@davidthompson5991]

Unfortunately for the plague lovers here, a beast of Nurgle is extremely unlikely, as his worship does not appear in the game. The god worshipped in Space Marine 2 is Tzeench, who loves birds and magic.

[@twoshoes7115]

im forced to play operations with randos. 3 out of 5 games i get abused plz give us solo operations.

[@The_Night_Haunter-VIII]

Winged Prime, Deathleaper, or Tyrant Guard incoming.... Watch, it's gonna be one of those 3

[@kcisthe1st]

Honestly if they want to keep the hype releade horde mode

[@markvalenzo]

I appreciate you making this but the audio levels are terrible

[@wolflordbradley7353]

He doesn't know why the customization isnt deep. Bs they just didn't think about it. It the game HE wanted not fans.

[@royart4781]

Norn emmiserry?

[@archonofcommorragh1221]

A bit above the paygrade of a normal marine I think. Last I checked even Custodes had to grit their teeth with a Norn.

[@nuke2099]

@@archonofcommorragh1221 I know what the enemy is and its more powerful than a Norn Emissary.

[@royart4781]

@@nuke2099 are you trying to make us belive its magnus?

[@nuke2099]

@@royart4781 Its Magnus if Magnus was a really big Tyranid bio-form and still did nothing wrong.

[@lewisgarland1259]

Really? I though using Nerf darts instead of bullets was to "test players"

[@Speedstar115]

norn emissary

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

That level autistic attention to detail in regards to the modeling is so GW.

[@limbo8497]

My money is on Genestealer Cult.

[@lastword8783]

Boooo i want Orkz!

[@akasunanosasori6385]

Please be a pink horror.

[@808Molcos]

New enemy = Genestealers

[@alliedbrandon1355]

Am I the only one who’s confused about Orcs not being in the game?

[@clintbustwood4800]

Why? There’s reason for there to be

[@alliedbrandon1355]

@@clintbustwood4800 They were in the first game, I never finished it so maybe they killed em all off but I liked fighting the Orcs.

[@not_russianspy1146]

@@alliedbrandon1355 There's still orks it's just that orks aren't everywhere in the galaxy and this game probably takes place very far from graia

[@michaelgray1223]

🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@wilfredwayne7139]

For me I'm sick of the lore excuse they use for everything we want to add to the game. Not to mention the servers are unplayable. Me and my friends cannot play together and with randoms on higher difficulties is ridiculous. 6+ shots from a multi melta to kill a basic majoris.

[@simplyyunak3189]

Yeah 6 shots from a melta rifle should be able to kill tanks. A nomal warrior could max withstand 2

[@wilfredwayne7139]

@@simplyyunak3189 and the multi melta is even stronger it doesn't make sense up the enemies don't make them tanky.

[@cole5953]

"Sick of the lore excuse" you're being incredibly ignorant to how this works. It's not an excuse, they are actually required by GW, the actual owners of 40K to follow very specific rules for the game. GW is very very particular on how video games (especially ones with space marines in them) are handled. It's part of the process if you want to make a 40K game for them. It's like if Nintendo allowed someone else to make a mario game. If you have a problem with it, take it up with games workshop.

[@azzy9293]

Yea that's total and utter bs, I've seen the multi melta and melta rifle both run through enemies like they weren't shit. If you have a dogwater build maybe but the melta I'm familiar with trivializes ruthless

[@wilfredwayne7139]

@@azzy9293 substantial without the purple upgrades isn't easy I'm sorry someone carried you through it and now you think your the shit but you're not.

[@T57Custodian]

Needs WAYYYY more co op missions. Needs more weapons A lot more and mainly im absolutely disgusted that they owft out the flamer and the boring melta is ridiculously over powered All the other weapons are pointless at substantial ao i cant play the game how i want to play. Pvp needs full team groups not just 3 And just needs more content. I was so hyped for this game and im done with it. Within a day i was done with the game. Imo this was a 35pound game not 60. I had 7 hours to conplete the story and all the co op missions on all difficulties. Im bored.

[@wesleymarvin8148]

Not a fan then?

[@oldskoolnp5512]

🧢

[@T57Custodian]

@@wesleymarvin8148 no the opposite which is why these things really annoy me. Loved the story. Enjoyed the 6 co op missions but once I'd maxed a character it felt boring doing the same thing over and over. Plus the one about the melta is the worst. If you want to play substantial or higher then you need metlas otherwise it isn't fun. I wanna use any weapon and play the game. Edit there is less than 15 missions total in the game like cmon. Also the cinematic trailer released over 2 years ago

[@T57Custodian]

@@oldskoolnp5512 you definitely ain't a fan. What was the message the big E sent to Cypher through a dying custodian?

[@azzy9293]

Dude did you skip all the cutscenes? Did you explore the environment? Did you play on ruthless? Everyone says they beat the campaign in 7 hours but there's actually no way unless you skipped past everything in the campaign and went straight for the objective

[@leoncca]

In order for KZbin to have the selectable index within the video, you gotta have you first timestamp as 0:00. It's weird, I know!