SPACE MARINES 2 Is Not A HELLDIVERS KILLER! |Weekend Respawn |

This Episode of Weekend Respawn Dutch & Salty talk about their experience playing Space Marines 2. It is not what we expected and maybe it's being a little over hyped. Or maybe we just don't get it. Are we the ONLY people not in love here?
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Respawn every Friday!

[@jonathanlangford6660]

This isn't an HD2 killer either, but Darktide is a lot better than SM2 imo. Also, a big issue I have with SM2 is that you can get used to certain weapon combo's in the campaign that you can no longer continue to use once you hit the operations/endgame. Doesn't feel good hitting that wall.

[@oxyyerks9849]

I have no fucking clue why but I love every time you guys upload the 40 min pods are the best

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Well thank you! We enjoy making them

[@DutchButters]

It’s my bubbly personality

[@tomeierdam8023]

space marines is not a helldiver killer. Arrow head is a helldiver killer.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

😂😂 fair

[@DutchButters]

Yeah. This is true.

[@karnagefails333]

Edgy 🤣

[@Poncholives]

@@karnagefails333Can't cut without edge haha! 🤣

[@jamesThebulbmin]

Alexus is the helldivers kill luckily he has been silenced for now

[@znail4675]

My main issue right now with SM 2 is that you automatically gets assigned to a team, that you are unable to avoid joining and if the team leader feels pissy so can he kick you after half the mission and deny you any rewards. That really ruins your day when that happens.

[@denhawken]

now that people are figuring out that sm2 is not a hd2 killer.. you have an opportunity to make hd2 very fun.. we have 2 days to liberate 2 bot planets to aquire the 120 orbital napalm barrage. combine that with the new update on teusday.. that will be tons of fun...make your favorite content creator, chaos diver, and anyone who is waiting for fun to return to actually participate to make the game fun instead of complaining. arrowhead is doing their part... and they passed us the ball and challenged us to how much fun you want. this way you can seperate the intentful and actual players from the click bait hating just to bring down the game people..

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Dropping in for the MO tonight 🫡

[@TevinxD]

Word

[@IRamnosI]

As predicted a couple of months ago. But hey... at least we still have Hell Divers 2 and the upcoming update AND the possible Illuminate introduction, closer to the Chri... Yeah, we are still in business!

[@Swish36]

19:04 is when he says it’s not a helldivers 2 killer

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

@@Swish36 damn. Shoulda blew my load a bit earlier eh?

[@gore3306]

The fact it was called a helldivers killer in the first place just shows the state of the industry. People cant just enjoy games anymore and always have to compare and debate who's game is best. Just more pseudo-political tribalism bs.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Idk about the political thing. Tribalism, sure. I think it was bred from discontent with the state of Helldivers. People wanted something with less issues and SM2 was next up to bat.

[@spike_was-here5681]

I mean Dutch. I heard buck last time 🤣🤣

[@jaywerner8415]

@@SaltyNerdGaming Yeah Id agree. Like when people USED to name "game killers" it was a case of "Can this newcomer dethrone the Champion?" IE Call of Duty or Halo in their respective Times of Glory. In Helldivers 2s case its out of SPITE.

[@renediem5218]

Nah HD2 is trash ... the first one was better, so yeah SM 2 easily is better than HD2

[@jaywerner8415]

@@renediem5218 "one massive patch later" ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!

[@blackfireslayer9869]

Broforce is if Mario was a Micheal Bay action movie. Definitely worth you guys playing. I can already see Dutch rolling on how fast he dies and how goofy the game is

[@SpartanFlashSentry]

Can confirm. Broforce might just make Dutch pee.

[@shadeaston3647]

@@blackfireslayer9869 yeah broforce is fun. It's very tram America if you've seen it.

[@davidponder1654]

I mean i knew it wouldn’t be. They’re fundamentally different games. Helldivers is like playing as the astra militarum, space marine 2 is like playing as an agile devestator with a chainsword. I personally love SM2, but maybe thats just the 40k fan in me talking. I can see why other people wouldn’t like it, online barely works, performance is shoddy even on decent hardware. I will say though the gameplay feels much different when you fight the thousand sons than the tyrannids

[@Manny-Prime]

It definitely has a steep learning curve and the classes are gonna be worked on its inevitable as hp regen is abysmal save for 2 or 3 classes. But its still fun, most definitely not a Helldiver killer more so a Halo and Gears of War killer

[@znail4675]

The issue is that both hp and armor regen is tied to being in melee.

[@simplyyunak3189]

HP regen is not libked to melee. You can regainnfull contested health with 1-2 melta rifle shots into minoris enemies

[@bretwilliams249]

I've had some fun with Space Marines 2, but it hasn't replicated that Helldivers 2 feeling. Not even close actually. Helldiver's 2 will have it's comeback, and I'll be here for it.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

✊🏼

[@renediem5218]

HD2 is dead asf. Not waiting for that shit no more

[@jinushaun]

Haters gonna hate. Pretty much every reviewer says Space Marines 2 plays like a Xbox 360 era game, which echos exactly what you’re complaining about. Personally, I’m all for it. Modern games aren’t “fun”.

[@DutchButters]

It is what it is. They aren’t wrong.

[@DroosterH]

As much as I love 40k and Space Marine, we've been screaming this for months. They are not the same!

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

We were wrong, Mislead or ignorant. Either way we know now. Helldivers 4Life!

[@DroosterH]

@@SaltyNerdGaming Now stop fannying about and drop on Mastia!

[@artamesfrost4179]

1. You didn't play the first SM game nore know the story 2. Those that played the first one and know the story new this is a totally different game than HD2. 3. 40k fans have been wanting this type of game for a long time. It's not for everyone. Honestly what games was you playing growing up. Gears of war was VERY popular when it first came out and so was SM. Is it a HD2 killer? no. But it's story is apart of the appeal, since many have played the first SM and aren't just jumping on the hype train. 40k isn't for the weak and the lore is vast. Has HD2 put melee into its game in sure it be a button smasher as well but they didn't. Not only that but HD2 you could say you are playing as the Astra militarm.

[@Rovaneon]

Thanks to both of you for just telling it true about Space Marines 2. You're not crazy. You didn't miss the bus. You guys ARE the cool kids. Who else is hyped for Tuesdays HD2 buff patch!? Let's dive boys! Gimme that railgun.

[@DutchButters]

I’m a cool kid. Yes. Finally made it. 🤘🏻

[@renediem5218]

Yawn... cool Kids? LOL riiiiight in your dreams

[@jaywerner8415]

"Helldiver killer" Seriously.... we have resorted to THAT SHIT again? Like we are on the VERGE of another BIG patch, in fact some of the contents has even been leaked cus someone forgot to cover up one of the sheets of paper in one of their teaser Videos.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Huge patch and SM2 is not cutting it for us. Helldivers is untouchable

[@jaywerner8415]

@@SaltyNerdGaming Indeed. Helldivers 2 is good, it just needs to REFINE itself. And I'm sure it will with time. But OH BOY some of things on that piece of paper were amazing. It was a bunch of Primary weapon buffs. (given its less then week away, pretty safe to say thats gonna be in the notes. Id be shocked if it wasn't.) Evavin did a video on it if your curious.

[@juliuswaxman3758]

Returnal is kind of a roguelike, kind of a third person shooter. It's pretty fucking good, decent story and solid gameplay. Ghost of Tsushima is fantastic. Also, Broforce! Fuck yes!

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

The grind to level up each character through the same 6 levels is old - already. HD2 has tons of grind and repeat but I can run a different way, have more options and it doesn’t annoy me as much. And, that elevator snippet from SM2 with the Muzak playing was perfect! 😂

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

I do my best

[@simplyyunak3189]

The grind woud actually be ok if not all of the good perks are like lvl 15+

[@millzy8885]

Agreed!! It doesn't bring the same excitement as helldiver

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Not even close

[@jnlk2505]

disagree

[@blackstone777]

​@@jnlk2505 it's ok to be wrong

[@Blooding]

Yup, it doesn't bring the chaos like Helldiver.

[@Deaf_Rowe]

"Man Titties on the Elevator" - song by "Killed By Khryst!!"

[@EasyMac738]

This is why I use discord for in game comms instead of relying on in game comms.

[@Tragobjr88]

Does anyone remember that laser tag capture the flag training they did in the starship trooper movie? Would be a cool way to introduce a PvP/practice setting on mars that also includes a firing range to test out new weapons and stratagems. No live rounds in the PvP areas so it can’t be toxic.

[@SimonFrancis-gd1qx]

I think you nailed the difference between space marine and Helldivers here! Returnal is genuinely an amazing game by the way, they aren’t kidding about bullet hell by the geometry wars 360 folks

[@dustinprice6232]

It should not hurt that he doesn’t know what Dig Dug is. That is your OG badge.

[@JoLuRaArias]

The best Way to make money Is lockpicking. Steal the Rattay armorer goods and desposit them in the inventory chest of the miller. Wait a couple of of days and sweet gold in the miller's chest.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

@@JoLuRaArias lockpicking in this game is so crazy. Mouse and Keyboard isn’t bad but the controller is almost impossible. I’ll figure it out.

[@JoLuRaArias]

​@@SaltyNerdGaming For a second playthrough the most OP strat is to lockpick every single door and chest (except for one) in Skalitz and picking flowers increase strength I think. Such an amazing broken game haha

[@shadeaston3647]

@@JoLuRaArias looking forward to number 2. Combat looks a bit more polished.

[@JoLuRaArias]

@@shadeaston3647 oh yeah, it's my most expected game of the year. The first one is great. The expansions even better. Without too much spoilers the Madonna of Sasau broke me. I hope the second one have some rough storylines like that.

[@blackbeatsentertainment]

I think space marines was supposed to be something that would go past the previous game where you were regular people that were prisoners (forgot the name, die hard fans know what I’m talking about) because I played it and I said “ this would be better if it was space marines” and here you go, we got space marines. I’m only like an hour maybe in, kinda hard to get the controls but if you played the button mash games or for honor even, you should be more than fine. I like it, I’m not as big as a fan as like your average guy painting the mini figs but 40K goes hard, I like the gore and violence.

[@shagakhan9442]

Darktide? You never played the first Space Marine game on 360?

[@CultureCasino]

Load Screens Are FUN!

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

@@CultureCasino love em!

[@thesameHINOKAMI]

Many players sound like they haven't been paying attention to the Patch notes shorts. It's not dead. On average, there are about 20k when M.O.s come in around 30 to 40k. I have a feeling they actually are doing changes, and they are making these said changes for the REAL HELLDIVERS! The warbond being all stratagem is a good idea.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Helldivers is far from dead.

[@Cidfried]

Sm2 is more of left 4 dead 2/40k darktide type of game not sure if you guys ever played those type of games. Now as for helldivers 2 I feel like Arrowhead was able to successfully change the viewpoint of the player from top down to thirdperson from those types of games. I think this type of game has always or for the most part have been topdown viewpoint like helldivers 1 and red solstice 2. I think most people thought sm2 was a helldivers 2 killer was because people got feed up with the nerfs and saw sm2 as new thirdperson horde shooter, not realizing it was going to be something like left 4 dead 2. Helldivers 2 thirdperson viewpoint also probably help it expand to the wider audience. If it was topdown might not have exploded as much.

[@kableguy8975]

Better teach him Dig-Dug! A favorite of mine next to Centipede.

[@drb2684]

As a helldiver with 416 hours in HD2, I will admit having a predisposition that it'd be something like HD2 which is wrong. I know nothing about the warhammer lore, I'm basically new into it so I did find myself not exactly enjoying space marines 2. Now I'm trying to enjoy it realising its two different games, its only infuriating with the crashes so I can't play it properly. Now I've gotten back to HD2, and I've gotten into a much greater appreciation after playing space marines 2. Sure after a few missions it gets repetitive. However, the experience is different each time, its map is open, the way the mission can go can either go very well, from very well to down south, to impossible to pulling a win in the end. You can experiment with load outs and such. And what you've pointed out is, SM2 is too linear. I too will give it more chances, but the crashes need to stop, only managed to get 2 / 8 operation attempts with that. But now my love for HD2 has been revitalized and am looking forward to the big update this 17th.

[@dekeaustin]

Nice work. Can't wait till the 17th🎉🎉🎉

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Can’t come fast enough

[@Poncholives]

Like I've said on another YT channel I was never into the WOW and 40K artstyle so that automatically didn't piqued my interest. But I would be willing to play it one day when it's on sale cause I do like how the animations were done. I think Helldivers's aspect and the players involvement in the mission is what makes it special despite it's problems. Plus I'm a sucker for anything that has HALO vibes. Just like Elden Ring brings me back to the days when I played Ocarina of time as a kid.

[@crackdog3523]

This is the only gaming podcast ill watch. Yall are great keep it up

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

@@crackdog3523 oh man that’s super nice to hear. Thanks!

[@mikeocksthrobbin9404]

I found this regarding the use of the word “grip”. (slang) As much as one can hold in a hand; a handful. I need to get a grip of nails for my project.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

THANK YOU! -Salty.

[@dustinprice6232]

It hilariously cut to an ad perfectly when you said “I don’t like the game.”

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

KZbin gets clever sometimes

[@Degarth]

The aesthetic of Space Marines always hit me funny. The metal bell bottoms just don't do it for me. I tried to get pumped for it but couldn't. Every time I tried to click purchase, those bell bottoms flashed through my brain.

[@theronnett]

The Operations there is friendly fire. The Campaign seems to be there for the cinematic effect while the Operations forces that team coordination you want.

[@Grimmance]

Considering how many people review bombed for the sake of requiring a psn account for cross play I'm amazed there was nothing about the requirement of the epic online ecosystem needing to run in the background like malware.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

I think that’s only if you want to do cross play. But I could be wrong

[@Grimmance]

@SaltyNerdGaming An account would be required for all online play as per regular epic store games. If you only ever play single player, you can opt out, but all online play requires it as per Epic's tos.

[@dethvel8568]

I'd compare this game to God of War. I never bought the God of War games, but I might get this. Possibly only because seeing seeing the Guards brings the Halo instinct of saving as many marines as possible. If I don't color my space marine to be a helldiver, I'm definitely going to be playing as a Salamander.

[@nerdyneo21]

29:45 Did someone say NEO?!?! 😉 also, PlayStation linking in Ghost of Tsushima is only required to play online. Not required for single player.

[@neckrite001]

Duchbutters sounds like he is having a similar issue I had when I streamed. You may have to move your stuff back to the folder it used to be in if you moved it in any way OBS is sometimes dumb and will lose your files and not know where to pull the assets from. This is why I made a streaming shit folder and ALL of your streaming assets in that folder, and NEVER MOVE IT EVER lol. This helped me hope it helps you too

[@toovelder6685]

I must agree with you guys. I’m not having fun with it. I’d rather play Gears Of War. Which I thought it kinda looked like with what game footage I saw.

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

Yeah, and I like the cover mechanic in Gears and local co-op.

[@Pr0digyZRX]

They need to bring out the sisters of silence 😂😂

[@shadeaston3647]

Funny I mentioned vampire survivors last week.

[@rlnzler7131]

My favorite part of Friday 😎 Hell nah it ain't killing Helldivers! and yeah the chat audio cutting out during load screens is BS. Me and K were using the VC in the Discord to avoid that LOL but it shouldn't be that way. We can chat through virtually all of the loading screens in Helldivers 2 Super Fair criticism here. Agreed it's a very linear game. I'm still having fun but grinding the same 6 operations to level up is going to become tedious, repetitive and mundane pretty quickly I think. I know new content will be released but still. And yeah the social menu sucks. Getting into a game with buddies can take some time. Hopefully that gets ironed out. The return of the "GRIP", eh? 😂 Great show gents 🤙

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Thanks brother 👍🏻

[@Wolf-Nyan]

the campaign was fun, the operations are fun.. ..once or twice i thoroughly enjoyed SM2 and don't regret buying it but it's not one i'll play frequently, maybe once a week or so i'll hop on with da boyz and run some operations or through the campaign for the hell of it but that's about it

[@Northwind82]

10:00 there wasn't 12 million people into hell divers when it came out. It sold because it was a good game

[@Braxtonsport]

To be fair with the steam charts, it’s not a live service game technically so the lower chart numbers are exspectef

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

@@Braxtonsport fair point

[@the_icerasta7]

Haha space marine elevator music that shit is hilarious!

[@MMBN4bluemoon]

I just got the game yesterday. I only played 30 minutes so far but this game is not a helldivers killer. I did play the first one years ago when it came out. These are two very different games this is more akin to gears of war. I'm kind of upset I got the Gold edition I wish I could do what I just got the regular edition. Because once I get past the story I might do some PVE but I don't see myself getting it to all that grinding. And I'm never touching the PVP that's not my deal.

[@zerohour9861]

I have fun with sm2. But totally understand why you don’t like it. Helldivers 2 is still my main and favorite game. Also have a lot of performance problems. And I upgraded my pc for this game. So that part real pissed me off.

[@Privacy_in_public]

I agree with you about space marines. I couldn’t get the Perry system down. I’m not having fun.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Glad I’m not alone

[@Privacy_in_public]

@@SaltyNerdGaming I’m mad because I spent 100$.I’m going to wait a few months. And give it another shot before I uninstall.

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

I can parry the little dudes fine but it goes whack on anything bigger. It seems like I’m always in the middle of some other fight or task and timing that damn trigger (ps5) in time just never happens. I’m in the just roll/ dodge crowd. And, spamming roll for half of a level is annoying.

[@Privacy_in_public]

@@ionmedicaldesigns8122 same here

[@robbertvanhovendingelstad6205]

Had a lot of fun with the campaign and maxing out my bulwark in operations. but the game is not for the long run, sold it today.

[@fiddyfresh7350]

The gameplay is definitely not a traditional 3rd person shooter; it’s more of a sword fighting game with power ups like ghost of Tsushima with guns. Also, there is a steep learning curve on the fight mechanics

[@skatemobster]

I haven't been having fun either with sm2. I kinda like the campaign but i feel like once im done with that I'll uninstall it. Excited for the buffs in hd2 next week.

[@cabe115]

I'm not sure why there is a perception the SM2 was ever supposed to be a Helldivers 2 killer. Whoever you are listening to that was pitching that idea is probably not worth paying attention to. You could simply look at the first game and see that's not what this game was ever going to be. It was never marketed that way. I think most people recognized that this was more in line with the Tide (dark/vermin), and even that's not exactly a one-to-one comparison. Secondly, combat is definitely what you want it to be. If you want to play a shooter, you absolutely can. tactical, heavy, and sniper almost never need to be involved in melee combat. I consistently finish operations with those 3 classes and have 100ish melee damage to 20k+ ranged damage. If it's not your cup of tea, that is what it is. But, let's not act like the combat is bad, it's just a combat style that doesn't fit in your profile. Last, hating on a game for a level design choice that doesn't meet your palate of open world games is just wild. Not every game needs to be open world. This game also just wouldn't work in an open world. The compact nature of levels is meant to force engagements into a more frantic and claustrophobic encounter. Just look at Tide games, very narrow level design. Again, if it aint for you, it aint for you. Not here to bring hate, just a bit confused on hating on design choices that don't align with your opinions. I can agree that matchmaking is bad, content is a bit lacking, but overall the game is stupid fun. Also, discord is available on every platform. Not sure why we're trying to use in game chat like it's 2005.

[@luminousparadox7529]

😂😂😂 people saw big dudes in armor with guns and said yep thats helldivers 😂😂😂. They obviously know less than me about the massive lore of warhammer 40k

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

@@luminousparadox7529 admittedly know very little about 40k. But “tactical shooter” was thrown around and we got our heads up out asses about it lol

[@Privacy_in_public]

I’m excited for the 17th -hoping it’s going to be fun. I haven’t played hd2 for about two months.

[@franklinmckenzie8856]

The mics cutting out during loading is annoying. Salty is 100% correct.

[@wackywarrior001]

100% having fun with the game, 3 toons over 20 , but it’s not hell divers , wish space marine and hell divers had a baby . The button mashing is annoying. Feels like less strategic and more jumping around . P.s. use the melta , game works best with over-healing

[@karnagefails333]

If Dutch wants a hot chica Helldiver, EVE from Stellar Blade is basically a Helldiver. Also, thanks for savin me $80. 💪FOR SUPER EARTH!💪

[@dustinprice6232]

I can’t believe that they made this, which I do like, and haven’t brought Darktide to PS5 yet…While I do absolutely enjoy this game it is not a Helldivers killer. Could it contend? With a lot more content. There’s little to no procedural generation so we have little replayability imo. I believe that Warhammer 40K could be easily loved but from a lore perspective there’s a lot and there’s certainly gate keeping in that community. I am absolutely waiting for someone to pull their head out of their butt and bring Darktide over.

[@kjaere2313]

TLoU Part one is a fantastic game, I have 2 platinum trophies and like 17 completions with it. but yes. stop there. Left Behind DLC is good too if you are interested in Ellie's relationship with her 'girlfriend'. I found it quite acceptable with its 'representation', just like it did with Bill in the base game

[@Surfer_0x1]

Don't cheat on HD 2. Hopefully, lessons have been learned 😂

[@shagakhan9442]

It's ridiculous for anybody to claim that Space Marine 2 is even similar to HellDivers 2. Its game mechanics are very similar to the first game. The exception is the operations game mode. It reminds me of all the content creators talking about Hell Divers 2 while completely ignoring the first Hell Divers. It would be like comparing Hell Divers to Left 4 Dead.

[@nocovanco6179]

Fucking stargate spotted in the wild!!! Teal'c is the shit. Indeed

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Nerds gonna Nerd

[@Lilbluepenguin10]

I love the segment going over game sales 🙌🏻

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Nice! Definitely a staple of the show

[@MonkeyRage427]

I’m glad I didn’t spend 60 bucks on linear bull crap. Also I think Ghosts of Tsushima only requires PSN if you want to play multiplayer.

[@jesperandersson4475]

Would say that meele is secondary when you get up in higher lvl tbh.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Very possible. Like we both said. We will continue before coming to a final conclusion

[@Vuntermonkey]

27:45 Love the commentary and couldn't agree more.

[@KevbotTheDestroyer]

War hammer reminds me of gears of war and I’d much rather play gears of war than war hammer 40k. But helldivers 2 over both.

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

I think the last console game this guy played was a Sega game 😅 The most impressive open world game you can play,is a console game, called horizon Forbidden West

[@enigmatvarence4319]

I tell ya'll what. Everything feels a whole lot better the moment you step away from media and shitty news.

[@NasGuardia]

Wait you could upgrade your weapons in Space marines 2???

[@dekeaustin]

BTW, I've had a PSN account for as long as I can remember and I have never had a problem with it🎉🎉🎉

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Noted*

[@luiscaraballo6068]

Yea i agree its not all that great i play cuz i like warhammer. I even spent the 109 usd just to play early. Its ite the sniper is my fav so far. I play sm2 and hd2 back to back.

[@Nachismo79]

dutch beer LMAO

[@A_majorGaming]

Space Marine 2 is great but definitely not a Helldivers 2 killer. NO game has to kill it when you got Arrowhead at the helm.

[@frappy7]

You guys have got to drop the campaign, forget it, forget the operations. It's an on-rails story. The PvP is basically an entirely different game - do that to level 10 or so and actually get a feel for that. It's 6v6 and especially the Capture and Control mode is tactical positional and loadout-centric. Try to find a class you enjoy, get a 3 together ( half the six ) and get on an external voice comms.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Great recommendations. Thanks!

[@CupOfLibertea87]

You guys are in for a shock when you get into operations lol. Once you play the 3rd and 4th difficulties it gets very difficult. Enemies are sponges and your space marines are very weak in comparison. And I wouldn't worry about PVP your not missing out on much

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

I can honestly say I’m not looking forward to it. Lol

[@davidponder1654]

I thought the pvp wasnt bad actually, better than i was expecting

[@CupOfLibertea87]

​@@davidponder1654I'm might be a bit bias as I'm not a lover of PVP games more of a PVE player. Probably because I suck at PVP lol. Glad your enjoying it though.

[@jaywerner8415]

@@SaltyNerdGaming As BRICKY put it: quote "the PVP feels unfinished and half backed. But it SLAPS!" Like the Classes themselves are well balanced vs Each other, each one countering another class. Guns have to cut though your armor bars before doing hp damage, Melee ignores armor and goes straight for your HP bar. But the PVP itself is pretty bare bones with only 3 MODES and 3 MAPS!

[@Lilbluepenguin10]

If I play a game that takes place in Hong Kong, It's not offensive that im not represented in this part of the world

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

RIGHT!! Apparently this is a hard concept for some.

[@doubletoked7054]

Kingdom Come 2 is going to be epic... Making me want to reinstall the first one

[@NeonGhostReaper]

Dig dug is a classic! I still play that fuggin game.

[@tybergerson8539]

I never thought space marine looked good. Glad I didn’t get it. I’m going to get the flame barrage in helldivers tn

[@karnagefails333]

Dude it was arrogant af for Sony to release that Concord trash when everyone was already well into The First Descendant, which is better and FREE.

[@TheL4W]

I hate to break it for you, but Heiniken is Dutch, not German. For German beer personally I would advise to try some Jever or if you want something sweeter, you might like Paulaner.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Noted* thanks!

[@waynee6878]

Sorry I have to correct, but Heineken isnt German Beer, it is Dutch :)

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Yes. We learned that. Thanks. lol.

[@Aquablade95]

SLAY THE SPIRE

[@inthewastes]

Yall should try darktide as a squad.

[@wendigoofwallstreet4142]

Heineken is dutch not German, but close enough and good choice.

[@AstroNerdBoy]

Arrowhead will be the Helldivers 2 killer. (I see others already said this.)

[@ChiriKain]

nice episode guys

[@DutchButters]

Thanks man. 🤘🏻

[@kevincinalaska2551]

Dig Dug best beware the Frygar!

[@Bostonblowhard]

Why aren't you using Discord chat? Don't use game chat ever. After the 17th, and 19th you will all be back on Helldivers. I never gave up on HD2.....I'm a loyal player haha 😅

[@DutchButters]

We already playing HD dude. We never gave up either. Literally say in our shows we will go back. Not giving up on HD.

[@CultureCasino]

Moobies!

[@nightshadeii9248]

I’ve had more fun on SM2 than I ever did in HD2.

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

Good! Enjoy what you play.

[@blackstone777]

It's ok to be wrong

[@Benny2Phelps]

Just sharing I played probably 5 hrs and I didn't like it much ;earlier today I processed my refund, I come from about 1200 plus HD2 hrs and totally this is not the same kind at all likely my mistake...

[@SaltyNerdGaming]

You’re not alone