Spaced Armor Vs Solid Armor Simulation

[@simulationbros]

As an update we will be doing the following simulations for armor comparisons: APFSDS vs NERA composite Armor and solid armor Large gap spaced armor like Leopard turret cheeks APCBC vs Spaced and solid Armor HEATFS vs Spaced and solid Armor HEATFS vs NERA composite Armor and solid armor HEATFS sims take between 2-4x longer to make and can be tricky so that is why it will be some time before it is ready. If you have any other composite ideas I havent seen you can comment about them. (These spaced armor simulations take ~4-6x longer to make compared to normal simulations so its taking a while)

[@cringeorbased2803]

May i ask how do u simulate these

[@DeniSaputta]

Where did the armor shards go?

[@simulationbros]

@@cringeorbased2803 I use a program called ANSYS.

[@simulationbros]

@@DeniSaputta Simulating them all as full objects takes a lot of computing power so the simulation program simplifies them into red particle dots. You don't see them however because I visually cut the armor in half which hides them.

[@cringeorbased2803]

@@simulationbros ty

[@thetrujelo]

Me when the waiter brings me a 500mm armor plate, when I ordered a 250 mm plate, and another 250mm plate.

[@TheAlternativeDuck]

it gets HEATed

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

This is why I stopped eating at Royal Ordnance.

[@King_Sus]

Smh my head, what a bad waiter

[@qwerty-wt5dr]

u killed me bro ;d

[@lordzombieboy]

My teeth can't penetrate that! They need at least 30mm of spacing!

[@PeterMuskrat6968]

Fairly accurate. This is also why all Composites tend to have stuff in between the armor plates. Usually ceramics, Rubber or some other “filling” that when struck by APFSDS penetrators, absorbs the kinetic energy and slows the penetrator down significantly.

[@gimmethegepgun]

Non-explosive reactive armor has stuff between the plates that deforms substantially upon impact (older versions used rubber), which causes it to move the plates that have already been hit in a shearing motion that can chop up or otherwise disrupt the projectile. Which critically affects its penetration, as impact depth is based on projectile length.

[@BackyardDogPark9862]

I don't think the ceramics 'slow down' the penetrator, rather their crystalline structure spreads out the impact force across a greater surface area of the next armor plate.

[@t0k4m4k7]

liquid type effect? they put them there because they are quite literally the hardest material they could manufacture at a reasonable price

[@SecuR0M]

Spaced armor is simply mass efficient at the cost of volume.

[@SecuR0M]

​@@BackyardDogPark9862 Ceramics haven't been used since T-64/-72/-80. No Western tank uses them. The preference in the West (and PRC) is rubber or plastics like Lexan.

[@Solstice_AC]

KSP MUSIC RAAAHHHHHHH 🔥🗣️🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@georgevasilopoulos5359]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A PARACHUTE

[@ouradeer6690]

Maybe adding moar booster?

[@genrystikman9340]

@@georgevasilopoulos5359 Ore? Location!

[@aiden487]

STRUTS, WE NEED STRUTS!!!

[@ChillZilla-eh9ye]

All hatches are obstructed, can't exit.

[@seanmurphy7011]

I would like to see the same against HEAT

[@Colonel_Overkill]

Save interaction with some composite materials, HEAT will penetrate a given distance regardless of composition. It will have say 300mm of penetration, and 2x 20mm plates 350mm apart will stop it when a 300mm thick piece of steel will be perforated.

[@slobodanmitic1354]

@@Colonel_Overkill Spaced armour is designed with HEAT defence in the first place. It would penetrate much less if armour is spaced. It works very differently than KEP.

[@Colonel_Overkill]

@slobodanmitic1354 the penetrator isn't shorter because the armor is spaced, it just has air to travel through before hitting steel. The total distance of the penetrator remains generally the same save interference by ceramics or plastics that reduce the penetrator distance.

[@slobodanmitic1354]

@@Colonel_Overkill there is a bit more to it. Longitudinal tension. As the penetrator hits the plate it takes the same force from impact as the plate does. This creates longitudinal ternsion in the penetrator and if it is capable of withstanding it there is no problem. However when it exits the plate and gets itself in the spaced part the tension starts to reciprocate and its force vector switches 180 degrees so then it starts to stretch a projectile. Doing so more and more on a projectile of certain construction makes it weaker with each itteration effectively making it penetrate less. This is especialy true in HEAT whose jet is very brittle (ofc putting ceramic inserts in the space between armour plates makes this even more effective).

[@seanmurphy7011]

What do you people not understand about the word “see”?

[@Timberjac]

Of course, the problem is what happens when you are hit by a HEAT or HESH round, which is especially brutal against solid armour even if it doesn't really cause real penetration...

[@omega97hyper24]

Not if you use spaced armor lol

[@youlaughyouphill842]

On a normal plate yeah, but this plate is too thick for normal HESH

[@hoshyro]

@@omega97hyper24 That's the literal point the comment you replied to made...

[@haydenalcorn8754]

@@hoshyro KZbin comments are something else

[@Reportmania]

Hesh????😂 Maximum 100-150mm penetration bro not 500 +Spaced can be inactive effect so second simulation not effective when spaced armoured targeted

[@stefannilsson2406]

Spaced armor used to be very effective against kinetic projectiles because when the projectile passes through the first layer, it starts to tumble and doesn't hit the second layer straight on, reducing penetration. Modern APFSDS however is a very long projectile, so it can't tumble before it reaches the next plate.

[@TheDuckofDoom.]

A spaced layer will also interfere with the fuse timing.

[@DuhNoU]

i think it would also be way cheaper to replace?

[@ethanton7074]

I mean, less overall material used, yes.

[@alzl9026]

And what to do witt all that stuff that we got? It's not like we can go somewhere and dump all the stuff...

[@lucid5183]

Absolutely love the music. Sent me back to when I used to play KSP day in, day out.

[@Madenity]

This music makes me feel the need to build a spacecraft

[@thespectre5403]

i have a good name for it what sbout "untitled spacecraft"?

[@JeremiahClickyTheAvianHellam]

Shitfuck 2

[@Madenity]

@@thespectre5403 My god That’s the best name for my craft

[@gamering2354]

how about "slop shart 5"​@@thespectre5403

[@superZND]

All this, of course, is cool, but in modern armor, a layered pie scheme is often used: steel plate, fiberglass, steel, fiberglass, steel, etc. The filling between steel plates may be different in different countries. I think the engineers thought well and tested various booking options for a long time, since armor made of a single steel plate is practically not used by anyone in the modern world.

[@fakhrifr7833]

It help from explotion, better than single layer.

[@patrykb_]

meanwhile the Italians and their Ariete...

[@mhill88ify]

I think the takeaway here is that you can use significantly less "heavy plate" materials and still get nearly the same stopping power. Admittedly, I'm someone who doesn't know much about real world armor and such, but it makes sense that there could indeed be different materials in between the gaps could also interact with the projectile better than air (fiberglass it sounds like). Plus it's going to be lighter as well. If they didn't realize they could gap it, it would be heavier, costlier, and about as effective stopping power.

[@louiscypher4186]

​@@mhill88ify Whilst weight and cost savings are good. That's not the biggest advantage of spaced armour. Spaced armour's main benefit is sloping. Imagine you had a 200mm sq space to fill in with armour. Nothing can over hang the space, everything has to stay within that space. If we want to slope a solid block of armour we have no choice but shave the block down. So we would have less armour at the top compared to the base. With sloped armour we can angle each piece within the block so we have the same level of protection top to bottom.

[@manuel.camelo]

Get KERBALIZED 👁️👃👁️🙏

[@javiermozomoreno7331]

KSP music hits hard

[@ovrsurge4689]

Its actually Kevin Mcleod music. Royalty free.

[@ovrsurge4689]

The only original music in the original KSP is the main menu music.

[@yellonekpl737]

@@ovrsurge4689 Well no shit Sherlock, but KSP is what most people associate this music with

[@ovrsurge4689]

@@yellonekpl737 Sorry, I kind of associate it with cheap mobile games from the 2013-2016 time frame that my siblings would play that regularly used the music as well.

[@cortexoftheego4568]

it sound cute

[@richardwedlock9526]

this is accurate for rolled homogeneous armour however the reason why all modern tanks use spaced armour is the ability to use super hard materials like depleted uranium and ceramics with a filler inbetween.

[@Crimsonglazer_nr1]

0:26 me too bro

[@Eggmayor]

💀

[@MCX_San]

Can relate

[@WTC-NYC]

Can't. I got about 10.

[@IOverlord]

So small that my gf still has her v-card (no gf, only waifu)

[@6mohsen9]

that's half a meter wdym you relate??

[@matthewlloyd3255]

My first thought, which may be incorrect, goes back to my early materials engineering classes in the early 1990s - a crack in a piece of solid material can basically split apart with little effort, but actually starting the crack to occur takes a bit more work. So if you have a single solid piece and a shell or something puts a crack in the surface, that crack can spread through and it can shatter a lot more easily than if you have to put a 'crack' into multiple surfaces one after the other in order to break something.

[@DreadX10]

This type of penetration doesn't depend much on cracks forming. The strength of the material is over-powered a couple of 100 times over at the spot where the penetrator builds up pressure. It is this pressure that moves material out of the way of the penetrator. Basically you throw a bunch of (relative loosely) held together atoms at a similar target of atoms and you play high pressure pinball with them.

[@NoobNoobNews]

Spaced armor needs to be spaced out further than the length of the dart. The purpose is to bend the dart and snap it in half before it enters the second set. You can see this happen as the dart enters the last two plates.

[@Greywander87]

With the spaced armor, it would actually be easier and cheaper to replaced the damaged armor plates, while you could leave any still intact plates. With the solid armor, the whole plate would have to be replaced. In the simulation here, you might want to replace all four plates anyway, even through the fourth one was barely scratched, but this wouldn't always be the case. You'd have plenty of times when only 1 or 2 plates are penetrated. This is more or less the same principle behind a brigandine vs. a breastplate. While the breastplate is slightly stronger, the brigandine's many plates are easier to replace/repair.

[@amilo5]

A solid penetrator sabot is designed to penetrate spaced armor. Spaced armor is made against HEAT rounds and stopping fragmentation of penetrating material. So even if the armor is penetrated the spacings can reduce lethality.

[@Bewew1]

This video casually summoning last 50 ksp players

[@thespectre5403]

more like matt lowne viewers

[@KiluaRotmg]

Akubar lives in all our heads rent-free

[@richardbossman9875]

I wonder if these simulations take into account the slightly harder surface hardening of the multiple faces with the spaced armor vs the single hardened face of the solid block.

[@ShuRugal]

at the velocity these sabot rounds arrive, hardness is irrelevant. these rounds rely on concentrating extreme kinetic energy onto a tiny point in order to melt their way through. hardness does nothing to change the energy required to melt the armor.

[@justjako9145]

​@@ShuRugalapfsds does not melt armor nor does HEAT do They just perforate it

[@ShuRugal]

@justjako9145 how do you think that perforation works? what do you think happens to metal when you yeet it out of the way of an incoming projectile in a couple microsecond? it melts.

[@JaneDoe-dg1gv]

@@ShuRugalThey do not melt. The metal is plastically deformed by the pressure of impact.

[@ShuRugal]

@@JaneDoe-dg1gv uh huh. there's definitely no melting involved when you apply over 7 megajoules of kinetic energy to a 4-cm diameter patch of metal.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Just stumbled on this channel but love how every one here is dialed into this stuff. It's definitely interesting to regard!! :)

[@karxpoland5958]

Different angle between solid armor and spaced armor. Yes, whether the armor is tilted towards the projectile or away from it makes difference

[@joseag3477]

I was wondering why nobody was talking about it, it seems that people just don't notice it

[@MikeeCZ]

Very interesting, would be great to see varying spacing (air layer) to allow the rod to misalign from its flight path more.

[@CrimsonScar-1]

1:20 The APFSDS is hitting the spaced armour from the rear. It should be hitting it from the front, as it’s the most common impact direction.

[@Tadesan]

Turn your phone upside down

[@Ikbeneengeit]

I get the strange urge to design a rocket.

[@kgb4973]

Spaced armor is designed against HEAT projectiles

[@Mandorle21]

It's designed against literally everything.

[@MrSlonokot]

I really didn't expect the backround music to be from KSP bro 🤣

[@mordet2]

oh, this song brings back some great memories. Witch trainer, my beloved.

[@lunchbox1553]

This is a very simplistic simulation that ignores entire forces.

[@vladthecon]

Where’s the remnants of the bullet or is this a fin stabilized dissolving sabot

[@GraingyAircraft]

I melted the moment the music started

[@ЛинарШамсиев-с5ц]

+

[@igorordecha]

Thanks I'll keep that in mind when my Komatsu D355A finally arrives at my shop.

[@Phoenix58585]

Spaced armor: 😩 Solid armor: “Is it in yet?”

[@munastronaut8147]

Yo wtf

[@nothingnothing8503]

sick with internet any bastard their humor rubbish.

[@reliantbelial2341]

​@@nothingnothing8503sure you right this words order are is ?

[@malice5863]

​@@reliantbelial2341 Think I wrong is that the order

[@Manuelslayor]

To understand why spaced armor has no effect and is even detrimental we need to understand how spaced armor works when its effective. Spaced armour works in diferent ways and often in a combination of those ways pretaining to AP. 1. Seting the fuzze early on an APHE 2. Striping the cap on APC making the round more prone to shatering on impact reducing penetration. 3. Destabilizing the round in its flight path. The first 2 can not apply to APFSDS while the third can. But the spacing needs to be larger than the lenght of the rod or what remains for it to destabilize. Which it never quite is this simulation. Multiple plates is detrimental here as pushing material to the side is very hard but not so much out the back as there is no material to suport it. It is also rarley used today as AP protection as you can have more effective an reliable composite armour in its place with the same space aforded. I belive the only modern tank which uses this against APFSDS of main battle tank calibers are the modern leopard tanks.

[@Internetzspacezshipz]

I wonder about doing another equivalent test, but with 1. 50mm outer plate at 45 degrees as in the video 2. A bunch of thin (10-25mm) internal plates angled at 80-85 degrees 3. Another 50mm inner plate at 45 degrees And, of course, the line of sight armor thickness still adding up to the same amount. I wonder if this design would cause the projectile to deflect at all, possibly spreading the energy over a wider area.

[@notachair4757]

This could be very interesting

[@ЕвгенийМалков-к5з]

пластины 10-25мм под 80-85 градусов будут снижать кинетическую энергию лома, часть лома будет разрушена от трения поверхности пластины и эти пластины будут так же разрезать лом как нож, но, тут зависит еще от длины этих пластин, чтобы дать хорошие эффекты.

[@nosabenocontesta-ps1vi]

that is very likely to deflect the projectile, since the 80-85 degrees armour increases the armor value to even double or triple it

[@andjeybillver7189]

Все уже написали мб про это, но: разнесенная броня была нужна против кумулятивный снарядов, может фугасных и каморных - все они должны были детонировать из-за раснесенной брони не об сам корпус

[@anonymuz796]

На счёт кумулятивных может и не сработать если это бронебойно-кумулятивные и "струя" не успеет рассеяться.

[@andjeybillver7189]

@@anonymuz796 само само собой, но против ранних, должно быть, работало

[@Vazgen_Surminov]

Ну против кинетики тоже использовались, особенно броня которая сейчас на всех танках, она точно такая же слоистая, только вместо воздуха между металлом керамика, стеклотекстолит и ещё прочее ​@@andjeybillver7189

[@ugandaknuckle3129]

i crazy how life purpose for some people in yt was to say "0 view 30 seccond fell of" i mean, dude almost every KZbinr has the same problem with yt algorithm + what amount of view do you expect a video would get in 30 seccond

[@Victor-xm]

It's said as a joke, don't take it so seriously

[@ugandaknuckle3129]

How does joke like that even funny

[@trannguyenthevu339]

​@microwavedbananapeelsfirst few times are ok But every video now has 2 billion comments like that and it's not okay 😭

[@12sleep23]

Lmao chill

[@BlackoutGootraxian]

@@Victor-xm But when its repeated tons of times on every new video, it gets annoying. People are so desperate for likes they will do ANYTHING for it, its the only reason why this dumb trend exists.

[@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785]

Hmmm...interesting. However, because only the last little bit of the round hits the inner plate, the crew probably feels and hears less of a BONK though. it may be closer to penning, but won't seem as much of an emotional event because the gaps absorbed more of the concussive force from the kinetic energy being expelled.

[@goldcoast8549]

depleted uranium? yeah bro's gonna be having a field day with that

[@HenrycSchlangen]

The strength of stand off armor (spaced armor) is that it's supposed to be off placed further then the distance of the projectile it is defending against. This is because when the penetrator breaks past the first layer its flight becomes destabilized and the sharp pointy end usually ends up facing a direction other then towards the surface it is trying to break through. The issue with your simulator is that the two armor slabs in the middle were actually helping to keep the kinetic penetrator stable and horizontal.

[@lordzombieboy]

Exactly as it says. Love it!

[@sebastiaomendonca1477]

I will never be able to unhear the KSP VAB ambience in this

[@dexterjsullen]

Now add nylon armor in the space and wrapped around solid

[@Strike2-9245]

It's been a while since I've been into kerbal, but... that hits hard. All hail the Deep Space Kraken

[@shamalow1819]

With that music I was expecting the projectile to go sideway and hit mission control

[@Dariel77Angel]

Suddenly I have the urge to call a student to the office and order some butter beer with the next owl...

[@gus9797]

Next time a half meter long depleted uranium pole is flying my way, I'll know what to block it with

[@Marco-cg7fb]

the kerbal space program music is something else xD

[@santiagotorrezsegarra7790]

applause for the discovery of negative air resistance

[@danieltan7344]

I think one overlooked part here is in the spaced armor ones, the dart already start to tumble at the third plate. Simulating with more penetration might reveal even more interesting result imho

[@815TypeSirius]

Cool to see people still making videos on From the Depths

[@hibana364]

Would be nice to see how it goes against a gradually increased angle from plate to plate.

[@orionbarnes1733]

I speak for all KSP players when I say hearing that song is like a sleeper agent getting the activation code

[@benjamincasatimcintosh2918]

music got me checking the staging of my rocket

[@JMurph2015]

I think the reason the spaced armor loses a bit of effectiveness is those bits of steel that are squeezed into the gaps between the plates would normally be pushing against more steel in a solid plate. So you get a little more deformation because on each layer some of the material pushes against air.

[@ashishIMpro]

The amount of innovation we put into killing one another is insane. LOL

[@sabana6666]

spending 1 year in VAB trying to design a rocket, KSP moment

[@duvagr007]

With this stating it's a DU round... I don't know how easy this would be to input into the sim because I'm not that smart, but it's my understanding that instead of 'mushrooming' as the rod penetrates the armor as in a tungsten rod, DU actually self-sharpens and stays a fine point the entire time which helps with increasing penetration. Like tungsten is typically a 1:1 rod length to pen ratio, so for every mm of length on the sabot your get roughly that length of pen, but DU makes it farther because of its material properties in addition to its increased density.

[@notlegoguy2511]

I should be asleep, but I have to watch Spaced Armor Vs Solid Armor Simulation!!!

[@leviofun210]

I like how arrow just evaporates upon touching armor

[@rastavelli]

Rewatched it 3 times, I can almost swear that penetrator is accelerating when entering air gap.

[@V-X0010]

I agree

[@Bestreducer]

layered armor exists because something tricky (like rubber against that uranium shells) can be put between plates. It's about types of destruction and negation of them. 1.03x isn't much if there will be some tricky layers

[@xevious4142]

Interesting to see how the main determinant of penetration for apfsds is projectile length and not velocity. You can see it running out of mass.

[@Mctrrt1]

The KSP music caught me off guard

[@earthsyliongco9097]

this background song is so nostalgic

[@tcav3556]

Love what you're doing here. It's fascinating and entertaining to see. I have four questions/observations. 1st, the armor is angled so why doesn't each progressive layer not have ever greater deflection as the speed/penetration capacity drops? 2nd, it notes a 2.7% loss in protection. However, it appears to be 1/3rd lighter than solid armor. Would it not be fair to say (generally) such a huge trade in weight in exchange be more than a fair exchange? 3rd, what if each layer had a backing/front plate that is thin but much harder than the main material? Lastly, how would these variations affect the common (often copper plate) ammunition?

[@ollep9142]

The spacing distance can add some serious protection if it's large enough, say >100m between each plate...

[@mrseriousv1]

very fitting music

[@mikemcknight1104]

We making it out of Kerbin with this one.

[@Scarletraven87]

this is simple to explain. Spaced armor works by shattering the projectile. In the gaps the fragments spread out a bit and splash on a larger area as the projectile lost integrity. A dart however is too narrow and fast to shatter and spread.

[@NightBeWheat]

This music often plays when i design unethical torture devices for little green men

[@talonway3735]

I want to know if the size of this APFSDS reduced ten times and the speed is doubled, what kind of penetration will this flechette weighing a few grams cause to 100mm RHA?

[@simulationbros]

i might do spaggeti APSFDS purely as a concept, doing that too much can break ANSYS

[@talonway3735]

@@simulationbros Got it,I will waiting for the double speed Steyr ACR dart simulation, but the first priority is your ANSYS intact🥰

[@felmagfer-notalt]

He bouta be building tanks in the vab rn 🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣

[@thespectre5403]

Untitled tankcraft will dominate the battlefield 🗣️🔥

[@felmagfer-notalt]

@@thespectre5403 the ksc*

[@bobjoeferson5270]

I may be some random person on the intergoobles who doesn't know much about anything, but I had a thought. On the spaced armor, what if you did the same test, but instead of all of the armor at the same angle to each other, (i.e. / / / /) what if you did alternating angels (i.e. \ / \ / or / \ / \). I think that it might be interesting to see the results of a test like that. Anyways....cool video, and thanks for sharing!

[@sneakydoom]

I would like to see striated solid armor vs single material solid armor. Like multiple instances of more rigid material could assist in deflection compared to a singular material makeup.

[@the_jingo]

This’s why composite armor have ceramics between armor plates to absorb kinetic energy

[@AffectionateForestHills-mx8sw]

Aww so cute I'm gonna give my little brother this toy

[@philpeko1796]

👍👍👍Great. Now, what if you place fluid in between the plates (water, gasoline, diesel)? ❤🖖

[@simulationbros]

Definitely some penetration and spall reduction but probably most effective against chemical rounds (also gasoline is big no no )

[@philpeko1796]

@@simulationbros Thanks for your answer, but we need a simulation with interspaced liquids, to be able to study the case. I mentionned water and fuel liquid, because having to much water just for armour might be impossible to balance with overall maximum weight and volume, so using fuel might be more reasonable. I know that it is counter-intuitive to use fuel in an armour, but anyways, a tank has to store fuel anyway. And you can imagine compartmentalized fuel armour in order to lessen side effects. Please make a video with water, at least.

[@MarsMullo1]

Weight difference. Less weight = more speed = harder to hit accuratly. Even with same or similar protection.

[@thatguy_5240]

the spaces in the armor allows the round the retain more energy while passing through the armor, which leads to more pen. I've seen this test when people shoot spaced wood blocks vs a solid block and its the same conclusion there

[@Normandy-e8i]

I don't believe this simulation accurately represents the slowdown that the projectile would experience with the second armour

[@legobuildinggamer4048]

Mission Control this is Jedbury Kerman: Untitled Spacecraft landed successfully, when are we going home. Jebury this is Mission Control uhh you aren’t. Ahh music

[@CentreMetre]

Ive always wondered this! Thanks. I also wonder if having 4 separate plates but together would make a difference. My reasoning is that the plate after the one that just go penetrated might block the exit wound from expanding out, since they are part of different objects. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well

[@bengieDMZ]

You didn’t search for this video. This video searched for You

[@Qsderto]

An interesting video. Thank you. I'm wondering if there is such a thing as nonlinear dynamic viscosity of a metal, and does it play a role in such processes?

[@comradeboris2335]

that fin does not behave like DU should. instead of self sharpening the shell mushrooms outwards like tungsten would, so i feel like its more apropriate to label it as a tungsten round

[@jasoncolson3100]

I noticed this, as well. The fissure created should decrease in diameter as the du projectile "shaves itself" as it traverses the plate(s).

[@comradeboris2335]

@@jasoncolson3100 exactly

[@Franimus]

Can you explain more what's going on, what the different images mean, and maybe some hypotheses for why this happens?

[@simulationbros]

Yes sorry, I did not spend enough time on the vid and was short on time, the next ones will have full details and explination.

[@BasedAUG]

I wonder if there’s a scenario where the compression of the projectile as it penetrates could cause it to reach critical mass, creating a small nuclear detonation. Say if they were to fire non-depleted uranium or plutonium rounds (for some insane hypothetical reason).

[@bhs2423]

worth the 2.7% less protection from apfsds if you get a whole lot more protection from heat munitions.

[@dr.depressed._6547]

Could you please do laminated vs solid armour? I remember Drachinifel mentioning in a video about how 2 1-inch plates bolted together is only about as effective as 1.5 inches of solid armour, but I don’t get it. Wouldn’t it have to go through the first inch, and then the second inch, meaning 2? It would be cool to see it simulated.

[@ArturotheCat]

Target destroyed🗣️🔥

[@Spectyrr]

I think spaced armor would be best effective against HEAT because of how it works. Would be cool to see a sim of iy

[@Il-76vsc-17]

Do a warrior if vs an a10 (not the a10s gun but just the entire a-10 itself and make it go Mach 1) pleaseeee🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@ret7army]

IIRC spaced armor came about just before chobham. The big worry of the time was defeating HEAT rounds although the effects of a APFSDS DU round are inerestin

[@baneblackguard584]

which style maintains better protective qualities after multiple hits at different angles. protecting against one hit is nice, continuing to protect after that is better.

[@shaka2tu]

Remember, solidarmor hold their integrity together for another hit. While spaced armor can break or detached after being hit.

[@ElderJack-ye7sb]

Something seems off here. Even assuming the projectile hits at an angle where there is no deflection from the sloped surface, there would surely be more deflection due to medium changes into yet more sloped surfaces.

[@Killerean]

I wonder what would happen if there was a lot of layers of kevlar in between the plates. Stuff that would maybe bunch up and soften the blow for another plate.

[@Cruor34]

Here is my question: Say you have a tank, and it gets struck several times in the front turret. Lets say the tank has like 700MM RHA equivalent, and the round hitting it can penetrate 600-650MM RHA. So it stops the rounds but now it has several deep holes in it. What then? so you fill it in with some kind of patch? take the turret off the hull and throw it out, get a new one? Toss the whole tank out and say at least we saved the crew? Or can the front of the turret be removed and replaced?

[@5co756]

Would be interesting with conventional AP rounds , like the side skirts of the Germans to stop the 14.5mm Soviet AT rifles .