Code Zero Sail Setup (What's the Max Wind Speed?) | Sailing Ep 337

[@followtheboat]

Do you have a Code 0 or other light-wind sail? What are your general rules and codes of practice regarding wind speeds? Do you use it for cruising, or maybe you use it for racing? We want YOUR thoughts!

[@millzee60]

I was going to ask what you use down wind if not the code zero :) I have no light wind sails, just a mail, stay sail and yankee. And going down wind is a pain, the boat is so unstable. Keeping a wind angle of around 160º improves things a lot. I've just completed my first Atlantic crossing so light winds have not be an issue. I had hoped to get a code zero and set it up like yours. But if it's not that good down wind I might have to think again. Fair winds and following seas.

[@wilfdarr]

With a fixed block on your Code Zero, have you thought about adding tweakers/barber haulers to give you that adjustment you mentioned? At most it's two light lines and another couple small blocks and a couple low friction rings, but depending on how your boat is set up (you mentioned the flying Yankee so I don't know if it'll work) you might even get away with a single line, a centrally mounted block and a low friction ring on the code zero sheet.

[@followtheboat]

I'm not mad about downwind either. We run goose wing with the main prevented. Sometimes we use the mizzen instead (jib and jigger), depends on the conditions... 🤔 Liz

[@jeromehebert3184]

the sunsets where spectacular; the water was just a beautiful color; glad the seas were calm.

[@followtheboat]

Yes, the fact we got done decent sailing in makes it all worth while. Hope you are keeping well, Jerome.

[@londobali]

Another beautiful episode.. thanks for sharing..

[@followtheboat]

Always a pleasure 👍

[@darell9936]

Hi Guys, always a good watch.

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, mate! 👌🙏 Liz

[@cigarmann]

I've said it before but I'll say it again you have by far the coolest Code Zero Sail ever designed!

[@followtheboat]

Release The Kraken!

[@prereed]

Great photos. Integrated into the story well.

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Henry. Thanks for the feedback 👍👍

[@prereed]

Its amazing that we can communicate over the distance. I am in southern wisconsin about 144km (90 miles) from Chicago. I appreciate your traveling to places that are not in my bucket list. Although I was in Southeast Asia 54 years ago. Lasting memories. It is winter here -10 Fahrenheit several days ago. We are having a warm spell it 36f degrees (2.6C). Woo hoo!😂

[@danielaheinrich1371]

Many thanks for the great videos, great nature, sometimes nice sailing (😜), super personable and, by the way, the best English lesson for me (special thx to Liz🤗)!

[@followtheboat]

Oh, that's good to know! Thanks for the day comment. 🙏👌 Liz

[@ylemoine1]

Hi, Jamie and Liz. It’s been a while since I’ve messaged but continue to watch regularly. As per your approach to flying the Code 0, I think you have it right. Be conservative and as conditions settle in decide on deployment again. The issue for flying it in higher wind speed is stretch, which makes the sail perform poorly. Too much stretch for too long becomes permanent and then impacts light wind performance as well. I’ve just made a purchase of my own downwind sail and am trying to decide between a Code 0 or Asymmetric and whether to go top down furler or sock on the Asym. We’re sailing on the Great Lakes on a 40’er and it’s just the two of us. Lots of light wind days, but winds can build up quick and without much warning as small storm fronts move through in the afternoons when the land warms up in the summer, so quickly dowsing is a key importance for us. I wasn’t actually looking at a Code 0 until this video and noticed the torsional rope on yours is fully integrated into the luff of the sail and wondering if that improves usability? I’ve heard topdown furlers can be tricky in higher winds. When you sail downwind, do you have to let out the tack line to loosen the luff? How far downwind can you reasonable fly the Code 0? I was looking for a sail that could be used for between 80-150 deg off the wind. My sailmaker hasn’t brought a Code 0 as an option, but I’ll be asking this week as I’m still in the design stage. Any feedback would be appreciated. And, I realize that everyone’s experience and needs are different, but your views and opinions highly valued. Cheers and fair winds.

[@followtheboat]

Hi Yves. It's 1.30am here so I'll get back to you on this. Alternatively, join us on Discord (link in the description) where it'll be easier to answer! Hope you're well.

[@jonyboy1968]

Chuckled at Liz's quote at one point "It was a bit boring" - I'm sure you don't get complacent of where your are and the experiences you are having. You're super fortunate to be doing what your doing.

[@followtheboat]

Never complacent. Just in shock that there was nothing remarkable happening and everything was going well! 😁 Liz

[@SailingYachtSaltyLass]

4 kts is a nice speed to be ticking along at. We do not have a code zero but we have acquired a cruising chute and our rule is "As soon as there is enough wind to fill the genny, the chute goes away"

[@followtheboat]

Yes indeed 4 kts is pretty good in this part of the world! I like your thinking on Genny Vs chute! 🤓 Liz

[@danielwardin3609]

Don't know nothing about wind speeds and sails so I can't comment...🤔 However, the profile picture of Liz at 09:53 is worth a Pulitzer! I am looking forward to Lombok... Best regards.

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Daniel. Liz'll be pleased 😁

[@HugoHugunin]

Jamie, thanks for the B&W stills. I love the red filter on some of the shots.

[@followtheboat]

Cheers! Liz

[@rickreid8149]

Nice one thanks.

[@followtheboat]

You're welcome! Liz 🙏🤓

[@limitededition3278]

Hello guy's hope you are both doing well. Enjoyed the video all the best happy sailing. ⛵️ 🍻

[@followtheboat]

Thanks for letting us know! Liz 🙏

[@avail1.]

Is it normally regularly*calm in those waters this time of the year?? Great camera shots it was beautiful to see the moonlight at night and reflection upon the waters. No one else has ever presented that as far as i remember. Happiness and good hopes upon you both. Fresh fish is certainly a good idea. Those of us in Chicagoland area have the other type of "fresh" fish usually for immediate disposal. Thanks again for your efforts.

[@followtheboat]

It's a trade wind route, so there's usually a wind blowing one way or another. The currents can make life interesting! We love night sailing when the conditions are favourable. 👌 Liz

[@martynlemarquand191]

Another beautifully filmed episode on your life afloat! I would be interested to learn what equipment you use to access internet when 10 to 15 miles offshore. Thanks again!

[@followtheboat]

We use our local SIMs most of the time. When there's no signal, we manage without being connected (as shown in earlier episodes). TBH, it's nice being unplugged for a while. If we plan to be offshore for weeks, we use an Iridium Go for weather. Liz

[@martynlemarquand191]

@@followtheboat Do you have a booster of any kind? Agree with the sentiment of being "unplugged"🙂

[@followtheboat]

No booster... Just use our mobile devices with local SIMs. 🤓 Liz

[@olivierjosse3825]

on my catamaran i use my code 0 up to 18/20 app windows.if wind start to move above time to time above 20 i furl it.

[@jsvno]

Tri-x was my favorite B/W film - cool...

[@followtheboat]

I love it, Jan. I still have a few rolls on the boat but damn it's expensive these days!

[@kirkb3473]

Enjoyed the video! So I’m assuming whenever you are talking about wind speed that you are referring to apparent wind and not true wind as that’s what is really important. Or at least that’s the way it is on performance catamarans so I’m assuming it’s the same for monohulls. Would be good if you clarify as I can understand how the Oyster captain said he flies in 30 knots true if he has 13 knots of boat speed off the wind so AWS was only 17. Thanks and keep the great content coming! 👍🏻

[@followtheboat]

Hey Kirk, yes that's a good point. In the video I was talking apparent but I am not sure what the skipper was referring to. I should clarify this more often though because I'll also refer to true wind speed when discussing the wind in isolation of sailing. This could also be confusing for the viewer so I'll make a point of establishing to which I am referring. That aside, even if the skipper's Oyster is cruising at 10kn SOG, that still sounds like a lot of wind. Maybe I'm underestimating the performance of either the boat or the code zero... or both!

[@jamieweyndling1861]

I tend to furl the code zero once it gets above 15 knots apparent. My main concern is the pad eye which the sheet block is secured to. I think the rig would take it in higher wind but not the deck gear😂

[@followtheboat]

Good point about deck gear. Once in Turkey we broke the Yankee traveller car at full strain! Liz 🤦🏼

[@leevincent1380]

I have a 40' sloop (Jeanneau 409) with a furling main & 135% Genoa. I reach with my code 0 up to about 55-60 degrees AWA and no more than a 15 knt AWS. I can actually point a bit higher with the code 0, but it offers me no more speed than the Genoa with less heel. Whether reaching or running my preferred limit is 15 knts AWS. When on a deep run with my Genoa, I can do about 1/3 TWS. With my code 0 I can do about 1/2 TWS--sometimes more in lighter wind. I can comfortably run with main and Genoa at up to 115 degrees AWA. With my code 0 I can hit 120 degrees. Code 0 alone is comfortable up to about 170 degrees down wind in steady conditions. Going wing/wing with main and code 0 gives a little boost and seems to stabilize the code 0 a bit. My code 0 sheet blocks are at my back stays, which helps to keep my code 0 open down wind. I do need to use a tweaker on a reach.

[@claverton]

Interesting to see you using a film camera ... good pics, go the Tri-X! Did you develop the film on land or have you got your own tank etc? Hard to develop a roll on a cruising boat but not impossible.

[@followtheboat]

I'd love to develop on board but there are a few issues. Sourcing the products, storing the chemicals and space. If we had a bigger boat I'd dedicate the forward heads as a darkroom!

[@claverton]

@@followtheboat Carrying around chemicals etc on a boat would be a hell of a challenge and one of those things where the disadvantages may outway the advantages. Goodonya for including some film photography on your channel.

[@followtheboat]

@@claverton cheers. I'd love to do more. In fact there were some more from that roll I forgot to put in earlier episodes but I'll be using that camera again when we set sail again.

[@AllMyHobbies]

Hey guys just a quick question. What time of day do you release your videos? i followed your full refit many years ago but don’t follow much now as i never see your videos in my feed. Im sure they are there if i look far enough back but what i guessing is you release your videos in the middle of the night for my time zone maybe so by the time i look they are too far gone. I’m on the pacific time zone in north America.

[@followtheboat]

They go out at 10pm our time (Indonesia). Although, we're about to experiment with 3am our time... Liz

[@AllMyHobbies]

@@followtheboat ok if that works keep it up i will look out for it more in mh feed i giess thats like maybe early in the morning. I think lots of channels post early in the morning so the feed fills up fast. Best of luck have enjoyed the videos i checked out today of yours. Have you said in other videos where your heading like across Indian ocean?

[@followtheboat]

The issue here is the KZbin algorithm. If you don't watch one of our videos for a couple of weeks, they drop off the radar, even if you're subscribed to the channel. The trick is to click the alarm bell to get notified, and to check your 'subscribed' channels section for new releases. It's a major frustration for us content creators, and I'm frequently frustrated that I too don't get reminders to channels I'm subscribed to. I wish KZbin would stop pissing around with the algorithm!

[@AllMyHobbies]

@@followtheboat ya i think thats mostly correct. I always look at my subscribers tab. The problem comes when you sub to a lot of content there could be 20 videos releases all on Friday morning or Saturday or the like. So if i look far enough back I will find it. But your right once I watch a few of your videos then next week they will pop your video up on the home tab to get my attention. I cant hit the bell without turning on notifications for youtube app on my phone and ipad and I will not do that as i dont need dings from youtube on top of my normal texts and stuff. Well cheers keep up the good work and I hope you guys are having fun out there.

[@RenegadeSailing]

I have both an A0 and A3. I have ripped my previous A3 in 15kts apparent at near dead down wind, but the sail was a little older. So maybe a little weak or unseen damage. My 110% jib does just as well if not better with the main above 15kts anyways, so I tend to furl the spins in the mid teens. And I think how much do I really need to push a few mils if sail?

[@followtheboat]

Couldn't agree more about pushing it when you don't need to. Thanks for your comment. 👌 Liz

[@Tye264]

We furl the code zero at 14knts true and drop the sail at 25knts true. We changed to a discontinuous line and drum for safety reasons. Those continuous lines (infinite line) can let go in high wind and unfurl the sail usually at night 😂

[@followtheboat]

Thanks for the heads up! 🤓 Liz

[@jimmyhvy2277]

The Lombok Strait has a strong Current Ripping out into the Indian Ocean . Take Care .

[@followtheboat]

Yes, it's notorious! We've seldom come across so many strong currents anywhere else. It's the ITF (Indonesia Through Flow) which churns everything up... 🤔👌Liz

[@christiepooh]

How are developing the film on the boat?

[@followtheboat]

I'm not, Christiana. I had to wait until I returned to the UK before sending them off. I'd love darkroom on board but it's just not practical.

[@trevhedges]

Release the karken”. Cheers guys! 😊

[@followtheboat]

Haha! She's a "crackin" Kraken, it's always good to see her flyin'. 🤓 Liz

[@trevhedges]

@@followtheboat you know i wrote that four time, and every time my ipad changed it, i think because i was writing it with a C at the end.. technology! 😂

[@harrybloom9213]

Once I sailed in 55 knots of wind with a 3.3 m2 sail. But Im not a sailor, just a windsurfer.

[@followtheboat]

Way to go, Harry 🤙

[@johnq.public2621]

😃👍👏👏👏🐻

[@followtheboat]

🙏🙏👌⛵ Liz

[@deerfootnz]

But why on earth would you deliberately have a code zero set in 30 knots? Only bad things can happen, while the boat will be just as fast under plain sail, especially with a very heavy displacement boat like an oyster. Hull speed much?

[@followtheboat]

Who knows? Perhaps he got caught out 🤷

[@deerfootnz]

@@followtheboat they furl for a reason ....

[@FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill]

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[@followtheboat]

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