Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Kinematics Explained

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Specialized University

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@nicrepond9350
@nicrepond9350 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of important and misunderstood information. More brands should do this. Well done.
@cavsri
@cavsri 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, really informative but also easy to understand. 👍 More bike manufacturers should do this to give some meaning to the numbers they quote on a new bike release.
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@darylblain4710
@darylblain4710 Жыл бұрын
The travel needs to be more progressive, i had to put ludicrous pressures in my shock to stop it bottoming out. I eventually just upgraded to a more heavy duty shock, but I think the specialized engineering team should try to sort this out.
@Officernoob
@Officernoob Жыл бұрын
Even after max volume spacers?
@darylblain4710
@darylblain4710 Жыл бұрын
@Timjko yeah, the dpx 2 that was in there was at the limit of what was recommended by fox. Easiest thing to do was to buy a bigger shock
@andrewenglishsc
@andrewenglishsc Жыл бұрын
@@darylblain4710I'd love to hear from more people on this. I just bought a '22 Evo Pro and while I love it, I'm still struggling to get the Float X to feel right, ESPECIALLY coming from a Nomad with a coil shock. How different lol (but way more playful for sure). At 195 lbs I too find myself running super high pressures to prevent bottom out, really sacrificing any sort of supple feeling from the bike. I'm considering either the cascade link or going with a different rear shock and adding spacers. The Rockshox Vivid seems interesting but expensive.
@Old-Man-MTB
@Old-Man-MTB 2 жыл бұрын
Made me even more excited for my new bike to arrive!
@Soso64bit
@Soso64bit Жыл бұрын
Love my Stumpy EVO! Great video explaining why it feels soo good!
@mudkayak6305
@mudkayak6305 2 жыл бұрын
definately looking at this as my next ride. Questions, going mullet without the link... how much slacker does HTA become, how much lower for the BB, and what do we lose on seat tube angle? Also, regarding styling... it almost appears to me that the downtube just in front of the bottom bracket angles forward lower than horizontal, would prefer some up angle in the shape there as tube moves forward from BB and on up to HT
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for your question. I'd not recommend going mullet without the mullet link. If you'd like a lower BB or slacker HT angle, you can use the adjustable geometry!
@iantaylor8190
@iantaylor8190 4 жыл бұрын
Great video/explanation from this guy. Very knowledgeable and putting this into practical terms has been very informative
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Hymanshattricks
@Hymanshattricks 3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the carbon comp version. I absolutely love it, but my only issue has been that I’m experiencing way more pedal strikes than I’m used to. I have to figure out the bottom bracket adjustment to get it lifted up a little bit.
@macribas
@macribas 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, same here @Kory, did you ever figured that out? I'm on an S6.
@Hymanshattricks
@Hymanshattricks 3 жыл бұрын
@@macribas I did, I am on an S5, I flipped the chip, and it has made a world of difference.
@macribas
@macribas 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hymanshattricks So yours was on the low setting from the factory?
@Hymanshattricks
@Hymanshattricks 3 жыл бұрын
@@macribas yeah, I flipped it to high, and had very very few strikes ever since, and I live in a very rooty region.
@mudkayak6305
@mudkayak6305 2 жыл бұрын
165 cranks will help
@robsprimallife
@robsprimallife 4 жыл бұрын
I like it, hope to demo one soon.
@darrensmith9182
@darrensmith9182 2 жыл бұрын
Well done specialized on moving away from fsr this bike is awesome and i carnt wait to buy one ,cheers
@gravitybass
@gravitybass 3 жыл бұрын
Eagerly awaiting an alloy version like the last Stumpy EVO.
@fast93accord1
@fast93accord1 2 жыл бұрын
Can you give an example of any advantages to the high/low setting at the rear axle? I’ve only ever ran the high setting, because I’m concerned of pedal strikes on low. However I kinda wanna try low to take advantage of a larger rear triangle to feel it out….
@terr256
@terr256 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the evo comp. Can't wait to rip it!
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 3 жыл бұрын
Such a fun bike. Enjoy!
@jeffreydzialo
@jeffreydzialo 4 жыл бұрын
This is how you should continue marketing your bikes.
@teephud369
@teephud369 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just bought a '22 Levo. Where is all this rowdy riding being filmed in the background? Looks like a rad place.
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! A lot of the '22 Levos kinematics are inspired by this bike! As for the trails, that's a well-kept secret 😉
@Chromedome-ss6mg
@Chromedome-ss6mg 2 жыл бұрын
What is the rear weight bias? I need this for the spring calculator.
@jamsnastizz
@jamsnastizz 3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to try an EXT Storia coil on my 2022 evo. Will see how the relatively low progression pairs with the hydraulic bottom out circuit on the Storia. Fingers crossed.
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you like it!
@richchin5163
@richchin5163 3 жыл бұрын
It would nice to see one of these for the 2021 regular Stumpy with the flex stay.
@nl3712
@nl3712 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed; and for the epic vs epic evo too
@tywitt3351
@tywitt3351 3 жыл бұрын
Which numbers, if any, are independent of the rest or does a design change to improve one characteristic affect all of the others as well. Thanks
@SunsPSD1
@SunsPSD1 3 жыл бұрын
Specialized U., what's the effect on the AS of the '21 Evo on AS from changes to the front chainring size? I swapped from a 30t to a 32t and my Evo feels a hair less efficient and also the rear suspension felt a bit different. Please advise.
@teewuane
@teewuane Жыл бұрын
Hey Specialized University! In regards to the front fork on this bike, it comes with a 44mm offset. What are your thoughts on running the 51mm offset? I'd love to hear what your tests revealed, obviously the 44mm is what you ended up with so I'm sure you'd recommend it, but what specifically did it change to have the 51mm offset?
@ssjj9584
@ssjj9584 4 жыл бұрын
Is there gonna be an Aluminum version?
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
At this point no, but we may evaluate market demand and consider one in the future.
@ssjj9584
@ssjj9584 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpecializedUniversity Awe bummer. Be cool if there was a Stumpjumper Al with the swat box like the Trek Slash
@bfranco1519
@bfranco1519 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpecializedUniversity How about stocking them before releasing them to every mtb publications for endless reviews on what nobody can buy or ride?
@j.s.1967
@j.s.1967 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, so what to do if i want to change a air shock to coil?
@hilmanmutaqin890
@hilmanmutaqin890 2 жыл бұрын
Can i know a soundtrack music in this video ?
@mudkayak6305
@mudkayak6305 2 жыл бұрын
Will the adjustable headset of the EVO fit into a (non EVO) Stumpy ?
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. No, it will not. The Stumpjumper has a flip-chip at the rear shock to adjust the headtube angle. Thanks for your question.
@mudkayak6305
@mudkayak6305 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpecializedUniversity it doesnt fit why? Is the EVO head tube shaped different, or ?
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 2 жыл бұрын
@@mudkayak6305 Yes, the EVO headtube is a different shape
@Climbingbebop
@Climbingbebop 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for this explainer! What video is all the rad rider footage from?
@RennYYZ
@RennYYZ 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying, help me a lot
@thetrailnomad
@thetrailnomad 4 жыл бұрын
Don't gravity bikes (especially those with a High Pivot Design) actually need to have a rearward axle path? I get it that it takes away a bit of the playfulness (especially doing wheelies etc.) but it actually feels a lot more stable on the downhill and the benefits outweigh the drawbacks by far. I have a Deviate Highlander and am amazed by the downhill performance and it still is playful enough to not be too bored.
@uwu_demon5494
@uwu_demon5494 4 жыл бұрын
They mentioned it. They said that in the first couple CM of travel the axle path is rearward adn it takes inspiration from their gravity bikes, but later in the travel they made the axlepath forward so it feels more playful. On a gravity bike rearward axle path is king, bikes like the commencal supreme, that have basicly no forward axle path, are just super fast over stuff.
@thetrailnomad
@thetrailnomad 4 жыл бұрын
@@uwu_demon5494 My Highlander is both.
@yu-i7476
@yu-i7476 4 жыл бұрын
Guys plss tell me what application you use to illustrate the squats.. i mean white outlines of the bike. plsss
@ibanezrg7421
@ibanezrg7421 4 жыл бұрын
Probably an Illustrator file that's been pulled into After Effects.
@MrKiller852
@MrKiller852 3 жыл бұрын
Can it handle a coil shock? I hear its a nono on stumpies
@RennYYZ
@RennYYZ 3 жыл бұрын
I having problem with sizing, can anyone tell me what’s the right size for my height, 172 cm or 68 inches
@MonsterChuck
@MonsterChuck 3 жыл бұрын
You check their sizing? That would put you on an S3. Size down if you are wanting to be extra nimble and size up if all you want to do is ride down. Careful if you size up to S4 though as it may feel HUGE. I am 5'10" (177.8cm) and I went with the S3. Perfect fit.
@DR_mountain76
@DR_mountain76 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone can explain how to stop this bike from bottoming out. I have the 2021 SJ EVO LTD and it comes with Rockshox which i love but the rear shock at 25% sag and maxed out at 4.5 tokens and I am still bottoming out hard on G outs
@colinsandlin8575
@colinsandlin8575 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your shock is messed up, or your 25% sag isn't correct?
@darylblain4710
@darylblain4710 Жыл бұрын
I bottomed mine out heaps with the fox dpx2. The next year's model came out with the float x. I put one of those on and it was much better.
@toniktonda2811
@toniktonda2811 Ай бұрын
@@darylblain4710 a pasuje ten s plovákem?
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
@TheyForcedMyHandLE 3 жыл бұрын
In the world of two wheel vehicles is "anti-dive" commonly called "anti-rise"?
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 3 жыл бұрын
We had not heard of anti-dive! The concepts appear to be quite similar. Thanks for your comment.
@biketoolandmultitoolkevinh7014
@biketoolandmultitoolkevinh7014 4 жыл бұрын
cool job
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joeblack4026
@joeblack4026 4 жыл бұрын
impressive!
@quincee3376
@quincee3376 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@SpecializedUniversity
@SpecializedUniversity 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Please write us if you have any questions 👍🏼
@MrChadLedford
@MrChadLedford 4 жыл бұрын
Love it, but no 27.5. I’ll keep my 2019.
@theforruner117
@theforruner117 4 жыл бұрын
it's quite unfortunate
@hunterwright386
@hunterwright386 4 жыл бұрын
@@theforruner117 I recon you could get the mullet part and add 10 mm extra to the fork and make it 27.5 front and rear
@theforruner117
@theforruner117 4 жыл бұрын
@@hunterwright386 not a bad idea tbh.
@estebanmaturin
@estebanmaturin 4 жыл бұрын
Makes great bikes aluminum again. I don't have a first born (yet) to trade for this beautiful carbon ride $5500CAD entry point FML
@Thoma1100
@Thoma1100 4 жыл бұрын
Alot of the audio is left side only.
@menimanmangot1620
@menimanmangot1620 4 жыл бұрын
If only I could afford it
@MidWestMTB
@MidWestMTB 4 жыл бұрын
If you're in the states you could sell a kidney or two, that should pay for the base model.
@morbly
@morbly 4 жыл бұрын
If only everyone could afford it, not just you. ;p
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 3 жыл бұрын
The prices of these bikes would quickly drop to reasonable prices if people stopped being willing to spend $5,000 - $8,000 for a bicycle.
@prescriptionmedia
@prescriptionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
2:24 bruh
@barathmuthusamy
@barathmuthusamy 4 жыл бұрын
Epic!!
@danieldeponte2631
@danieldeponte2631 2 жыл бұрын
lovely video
@ToniTonino2014
@ToniTonino2014 4 жыл бұрын
Best bike ever.....
@harrie205
@harrie205 10 ай бұрын
3:00 he doesn’t understand anti rise
@lossantoscity3249
@lossantoscity3249 4 жыл бұрын
I Expect more if im gonna buy a bike that cost almost as a slightly used car. Bikes prices now is just way way beyond comprehension so this should be expected its not like a GT Bike that just cost 4 Grand.
@DM-hw4cr
@DM-hw4cr 4 жыл бұрын
Great. Only problem is that it's out of stock...
@MonsterChuck
@MonsterChuck 3 жыл бұрын
Drove 5hrs one way to get one......
@Trootfisher
@Trootfisher 4 жыл бұрын
Every new model we hear the same analysis of how it's the best design for the rider.
@TannerBarnesfitness
@TannerBarnesfitness 4 жыл бұрын
don't get lost in the numbers, a faster rider will always be the faster rider.
@bfranco1519
@bfranco1519 3 жыл бұрын
Wait until next year, it will be better than the 2021, and then repeat the same marketing bs ...
@mt2nv1
@mt2nv1 4 жыл бұрын
They even painted it like an Orbea Rallon 🤪
@phantasma2323
@phantasma2323 2 жыл бұрын
Instant Rowdy 😂 …could’ve done without that corny line, live the bike though.
@nickv3085
@nickv3085 4 ай бұрын
Funny how everyone who rides well will swap to a cascade link.
@BryonWilliams88
@BryonWilliams88 3 жыл бұрын
Stock shock is awful. Out of tune x2 works better.
@earljamesbarilea2447
@earljamesbarilea2447 4 жыл бұрын
soo over price!!!!
@MonsterChuck
@MonsterChuck 3 жыл бұрын
XO1 spec with Fox Performance Elite is $5k USD..... Maybe some direct to consumer brands are able to hit this price point but everything else is so much more.
@nathanweidkamp8385
@nathanweidkamp8385 4 жыл бұрын
Why you gotta switch it up after two years 😪
@SnootchieBootchies27
@SnootchieBootchies27 4 жыл бұрын
Because if they stuck with the same design for more than two years, the cost of manufacturing would go down, which would mean the pricetag would come down and people would start to expect cheaper bikes. They just can't have that!
@nathanweidkamp8385
@nathanweidkamp8385 4 жыл бұрын
Then why did the last stumpy design last for 8 years with only small small changes
@SnootchieBootchies27
@SnootchieBootchies27 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanweidkamp8385 hmmm, if you actually compare, you'll see that they changed significantly enough every two years (three at most) to require new tooling at the factory.
@skyshade9106
@skyshade9106 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanweidkamp8385 well you expect a bike to say the same then there tech wont be improving they keep improving so the bike keeps getting better
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 3 жыл бұрын
A $5,000 MTN bike is much better than a $250 Schwinn Boundary but nowhere near $4750 better. A $35,000 crocodile Gucci handbag is also much better than a $50 handbag but nowhere $34,950 better.
@bfranco1519
@bfranco1519 3 жыл бұрын
To you maybe, to others maybe it is $4750 better? I could say the same thing about how much taxes I pay which do nothing for me.
@ognjenr536
@ognjenr536 4 жыл бұрын
So basically idiot proof?
@anengineer_
@anengineer_ 4 жыл бұрын
Crisis is coming, anyone is planing to buy a brand new bike?
@bfranco1519
@bfranco1519 3 жыл бұрын
Coming? I thought it's been here for 10 months already?
@MonsterChuck
@MonsterChuck 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one..... :)
@raulm.1556
@raulm.1556 4 жыл бұрын
That's one of the ugliest if not the ugliest up-to-date bike frames in the business. The best geometry would not compensate for that. It's just the way it is.
@martinzanazzi9025
@martinzanazzi9025 4 жыл бұрын
I think it looks rad, way better than the bent top tube from before
@uwu_demon5494
@uwu_demon5494 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man I am in the opposite camp, I love the assimetrical design that the sidearm brings to the stumpy, and the straight top tube looks sick
@iantaylor8190
@iantaylor8190 4 жыл бұрын
Well opinions are like wheelie bins, e everyone has one. The colours IMO are crap. But the black frame is awesome
@bfranco1519
@bfranco1519 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Design and ugly colorway. I guess they do have a black frame tho.
@thehighground4920
@thehighground4920 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve got to be joking. Please tell me your joking. The stumpjumper evo is probably one of the nicest bikes I’ve ever seen
@gweflj
@gweflj 4 жыл бұрын
The kinematics are pretty much perfect IMO. Maybe a little to much AS at sag but I get most people can’t pedal. However, the geo adjustments are next level and I would have probably bought two had it not been for the suboptimal Moto rear hose routing. I’m just not prepared to damage the brake hose after a simple bar during a minor crash which commonly happens without the headtube acting as a strain relief. I’m gutted though. Best effort on the market.
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