Spectres suck in 3.25 - here's why.

[@Woras-jw6vm]

Seeing ghazzy shaved is still weird , less piraty more government employee vibes

[@gantzplayer.n.m4410]

so just another type of pirate ?

[@atugak]

Guy has majestic chin. Suits well nevertheless

[@fang_xianfu]

Herman Munster

[@FaceDisabler]

He looks like American Dad

[@zhimohoto7_31]

who are you? where is Ghazzy?

[@TomJakobW]

He’s Jhazzy, his slick brother.

[@Farligakurt]

They shaved him off, he is currently in the trash can :(

[@eldorath1]

Mate, i dont know if the whole "i main summoner" is an act or whats wrong. I do however know that spectres are fan fucking tastic. Im currently playing 8 frostbearers and litterally murdering the game. Spectres doesnt suck, you just dont think things trough. Your gem setup is wrong, your skilltree is wrong. There is no lack of defenses, my ehp is 123.000 and i run 83% chaos and take 50% of ele dmg as chaos trough a vanity (yet another thing you didnt think of). My dps is at 30 mil. Honestly this video is very confusing to me.

[@xellasmetallium]

His builds are dogshit, as usual. Maining summoner and being good at it are two completely different things and hes the perfect example

[@NathenToZuo]

share your build/pob

[@retxed8916]

share 😊

[@nicoinformatics]

Exactly. I have no idea what's wrong with his build nowadays. I'm a huge minion player since the gems first came out, and his minion builds are just plain off, especially on the endgame ones. I'm playing both Necro Frostbeares and PF Defilers and they both completely outperforms Zoomancer and Holy Relic, even SRS.

[@eldorath1]

@@nicoinformatics ofc they do, its because he has to cater to the majority who cant even make a couple of divines in a days playtime 😅

[@FateTestarossa]

Hey Ghazzy you ask your self "why not play Zoomancer?" The Anwser to that is "there is to much Minions on the sceen and Carrion Golems are just lokking better" I dont like it to have 10 Zombis, 4 secter, 1 or 2 Golems and 20+ Skelletons on my Screen while Floor is LAva

[@egomans007]

Here is another cheap animate guardian explode setup for starter- asenath's gentle touch gloves( with curse on hit implicit of your choosing)+cospris will assassins garb(+1curse)+windscream boots(+1curse)+ helmet slot( either leer cast, but my preference is rare helm with nearby enemies have -#% chosen resistance)+ dying breach staff for waepon since its a cheap ag version. the 3curse limit allow ag to apply the temp chains+implicit curse of your choosing+ you can apply third curse. For example I use forge frostbearers so i have ele weakness corruption on asenats for ag, and I use frostbite as 3rd curse. So far Ag died only once for me in blighted ravage map, and it costed 50c to build it back up.

[@devaalous]

Playing Pure Spectres rn and its a breeze with stacking cast speed and minion damage elegant hubris.

[@cheddarwhizard1639]

Sacrificed 2 of the Frostbearers for permanent uptime on 4 endurance charges, vitality, onslaught and culling using the Affliction spectres. No spectre chest, just running a crazy armor chest. Sitting on high pure block and breezing through juiced altar farming. The investment is fairly low, but I guess if you're trying to go blast Ubers or something, it wouldn't cut it.

[@sefii05]

Which are those affliction spectres tho?

[@erven4301]

Yep I wasnt understanding how he was generating charges

[@cheddarwhizard1639]

@@sefii05 Perfect Forest Warrior and Perfect Warlord. Warlord gives the endurance charges\vitality

[@eduardoburgosacosta243]

He won't make currency cuz he's more Focus in selling heltmets for mirrors and divine with this option he won't have any source of incoming currency so he Will be stick forever stuck on low bugdet cuz he only gains money by crafting. We won't need plus 1 on the chest we won't need heltmets or shield with +1 and +1 for spell so no money no mirror no theory crafting just puré simple plain good builds damn i miss princess kai she would have done so many variation of spectres..

[@VazquezFamily09]

Mind sharing your pob pls?

[@MrShameThat]

So since he basically doesn't even remotely discuss spectres and just rehashes a build guide, adding some thoughts actually relevant to the title here. I'm playing pure spectres Pathfinder and it's done juiced T17s, 100% delirious T16s, and all pinnacles I've tried. Diving into ubers next. For those interested look up Wretched Defilers (it's just 8x of that Spectre), there's a couple of guides and it looks like it works just as well for Necro.

[@KalidouTorreira]

There's also svallin/ward necro with frostbearers from wifedota that can do every content

[@trueandfact]

Ghazzy became a spectre because bro you look ghastly.

[@Psycrovv]

First they are back and then they are awsome..now they sucks..this guy tries everything to bait ! he only needs to make a video on "I almost died"

[@johnnyboy13642]

Animate Weapon of Ranged Arms right now (budget) in SSF and I am doing 3 million DPS with them. I have 4x forged frostbearers and I think they help, but I'm not so sure. I think I may try some stuff to boost dmg of animate weapon. Also there is a strange bug with 100% physical converted to chaos with frostbearers. They are not physical, yet their cold damage seems to not be doing cold damage anymore, even though they should. I'm not sure what's going on but they do chaos damage now.

[@eldorath1]

@@johnnyboy13642 i posted my pob in the comment section, use that and thank me later.

[@Scheckler27]

WOW ! You look much younger :) I've been thinking of shaving my giant beard for about a year lol but took me about 3 or 4 years to grow

[@i_lunarr]

why not try using hydras? now that we have the MORE life node in the ascendancy and a lot of other things, running like 7 or 8 hydras along with a perfect tiger and a warlord for the endurance charges could be a good idea? from what i heard about hydras was that they were great but died too fast and i think we can maybe sustain them now

[@snapow]

hydras are nerfed and have a longer cooldown on doom arrow from affliction from our testing

[@bubblehulk7647]

Damn. Is this video why dialla’s went from 4.5-5 to 6.8 today, or is that the usual flow of prices during the day? If I wait a week will it be 2div or 10div?

[@hdes937119]

Maybe because of all the holy relic build.

[@bubblehulk7647]

@@hdes937119 right that’s what I mean. I’m slaughtering T16s without it now so I guess I’ll wait.

[@joeblack5393]

Somethings wrong with camera focus MY EYES MY EYES AAAAAAAaaaaaa

[@akarenji6628]

Hey Ghazzy. I uploaded a video on a discharge golem Elementalist and hypothesised that a spectre version may be a great alternative to golems. By using Supreme Grandstanding with Precursors Emblems it may be possible to generate a constant battery of charges to empower a discharge build. Spectres require a lot of investment so I never tested it myself, but what would your thoughts be? Thanks

[@mtdgaming7134]

Hey GhazzyTV thanks for your build. Now i'm follow your medium budget version but Forest tiger is expensive for me now. So what spec can i swap instead? thank you

[@greezly2]

Kaom chest+svalin+minion taunt+full block+flesh and stone - ofc wraithlord/frostbearer, and i am very satisfied, also rump up convocation/automation quality and there you go, you have ton of defense :)

[@jdc9703]

which specter would you use for pure tankiness and staying alive to keep a blessing up?

[@eldorath1]

@@jdc9703 8 frostbearers is all you need 🫡

[@pxprimary3790]

Hey @Ghazzy. Can you please push GGG to fix the ****ing 1-time corpse spectre situation? They are entirely too easy to lose. SO many things can cause them to despawn/fall to the ground and then instantly get consumed by auto-corpse consuming features like trigger weapons, unique items that suck up/destroy corpses automatically, etc. 1-time use, often expensive corpses need to NOT be targetable by anything other than raise spectre.

[@MichaelJohnson-xq8tl]

Im having the same issue with these while using a Devouring Diadem.

[@pxprimary3790]

@@MichaelJohnson-xq8tl Yup, that is one of many ways you can lose these potentially Multi-divine corpses. It's so far beyond unacceptable I don't have kind words to describe it. "Minion" players already have to risk Animate Guardian gear getting lost.... now Spectre corpses getting lost... NO OTHER BUILD in the game has to worry about perm losing part of their character... especially when sitting in their own hideout.

[@IcaroOito]

Trypanon+Destructive link+spectres is arguibly, one of the best league starters. Cap crit with 1c. Holy relic, if the gem is cheap is really good too. Link mastery given you mov speed= minion mov speed. You can get something like 200% mov speed easy like that.

[@miafuntime9781]

I hate that if you unequipt crucible specter they are lost forever

[@Xenian3]

Loved the spectres during leveling so wanted to take it end game. Dps sits somewhere around 4-5m. Now I'm wondering how improve my defense any more without costing an arm and a leg while the king takes taxes on my shipment. Fun tho.

[@cheapbruh9778]

so if not the frostbearer then what and where do i find it, im confused? lol

[@danthecanadian]

NO BEARD OMG. You look really good!

[@amutatsu8858]

I think my comment was deleted since it had a link to pob. Wtb going full yolo full damage? anathemas + vixens for 4 curse setup -> as mark, frostbite, weakness and punishment bitterdream + squire wraiths helmet and thats it. Thats prolly alrady 20-40 mill single target

[@mjavdani3085]

Does anyone have any idea what specter champion specter build using? According to ninja it stacks lots of warcrys and supports are more duration, aoe, efficacy and ....

[@kenlyfrias2672]

im almost identical to my last league build i used to farm maven with that build but now i cant even kill maven lol i dunno whats happening

[@nicoinformatics]

Nah, I disagree. I've been playing minions this entire league (and for most of my time in PoE since beta). Started with Holy Relic, invested in it, taken a look at zoomancer and eventually swapped to Frostbearers, and currently building a PF Wretched Defilers. None of the minion build on your list is even remotely close to as strong as Frostbearers pure spectres let alone PF Wretched Defilers. This is endgame, some 300-400d investments minion builds (since you mentioned specifically endgame). And one last thing, that's a completely wrong tree for endgame spectres. No one who plays Spectres more than 2 leagues build Spectres like that. I can understand your argument for early to mid game minions, but for endgame? Not a chance.

[@Sherudons]

Why... some of the minions are peak meme potential, the naval officer might genuinely crash any pc into the ground if they all cast the tidal wave... it's not about good or bad.. it's all about the style and what you can get away with before your pc and instance crash.

[@Davidbpunked1982]

Playing skelli mages with arakaalis fang, specters and zombies . My favorite build for blight farming 😉

[@Neskard]

Who is the thumb? Why is he so charismatic and why do I enjoy listening to him? What does that say about me? I mean it's a thumb!!

[@voodoo1069]

I'm playing 8 spectre first bearers right now. It felt really good completing my atlas and favorite spots. You are right tho it just doesn't feel like I can or like it is worth it to scale them anymore, sadly. They also get freaking creamed by chaos damage.

[@josemachado6445]

Thx Bro Just i search one build to do all conetent end game, and to up a mirror tier! Thx So Much BRO!

[@NoName-gp1xo]

have you seen WifeDota build for spectres ?

[@GhazzyTV]

Aye, it's a solid way to fix the problem my build ended up having. Effective build, nicely utilizing ward and svallin for the defenses! :)

[@roiboo3947]

For 7 div, i blast T16 with 7 frost bearer with deliurium + ritual + nodes for Eater of Worlds, wtf b tier ? 3,5div for body armor 1 div for aegis aurora 1 div for jewel the rest for the crappy stuff .. I have 80k Effective Health Pool, immune ailment, 27 k armor.. its enough for t16 and i have really crappy cluster jewel and stuff..

[@jonnyboy2022]

please could you share your Pob?

[@xiangchen6373]

then you go t17 and uber， Yuu will agree what he said

[@jonnyboy2022]

@@xiangchen6373 I`m doing T17 with another spectre now, easy easy ...

[@xiangchen6373]

@@jonnyboy2022 wise action

[@eldorath1]

@@xiangchen6373 Im running frostbearers, crushing 17s. Whats the problem?

[@GreenThumb27]

I am disappointed with the witch all together. Minions especially are C or D tier compared to other builds.

[@aldoard]

Just to be clear... this is not zoomancer right?

[@danielkadiri2378]

Yea it’s not

[@p.marcial4400]

The FBI Ghazzy is real.

[@fedorkochemasov4533]

Idk what I did wrong, but I'm having much more success with chains of command rather than zoomancer, and it's A- compared to zoomancer's S+. Even on a ~70-90c investment I was able to clear blights with a lot more consistency, and had more single target damage than on zoo. Now I have Rakiata's on my AG and I can do all blight content very comfortably (except for the boss lane notable, but it depends on tower resistances mostly).

[@Jacowny]

Same feeling, but i'm almost done leveling holy relic, i feel like frostbearer ai is wierd, they feel best when i dive into enemy packs (but then i often die) and when i stand a bit further they dont do anything, maybe later ill come back to "zoo" but it seems like it will take some investment to feel good.

[@Nikolaijg]

It helps to use reverberation rod with frostbearers so you can link them with feeding frenzy, makes them aggressive and they still get spell echo and +2 levels that way

[@Jacowny]

@@Nikolaijg cool ill look into this when i'm back home, thanks

[@quacko11]

Idk man im running an 8 pure spectres build with hydra and im clearing maps around 2 minutes and instanr phasing bosses... Im about 100 divines in tho and triple blasphemy with purity of elements and haste and disc obviously i have to use shavs and necromantic aegis to get them to do phat damage but i almost never get hit becuase they kill things 4 screens away. And im on a 7 link with uul netols necklace. I have them 100% converted to cold with enfeeble, frostbite and ele weakness anything that gets close is 1 shotted and i have 70% crit reduction and the movement slow curse mastery and since the curse range is screen wide i honesly almost never see anything but dead bodies

[@gregorioricouz6612]

pob?

[@DrDoktor60]

Gear wise it is just the wraithlord helmet, right? So easy to switch into a zoomancer build

[@nyakanyaka-]

Wraithlord not allow you use any minion except spectre so.. zoomancer not viable

[@donb6897]

@@nyakanyaka- he's saying it's easy to switch because all you have to do is replace your helmet... reading comp

[@MrSurvivorPR]

Yeah, but at the end of the day, some people play the build they can AFORTS because of the crazy prices "inflation" and bad RNG is a bad combo, people sell items like their lives count of that price and is insane, some people don't have the time to play tons of hours to find currency, so the cheap way is the way and that build is cheap ...

[@imbalanceman3928]

You have to invest on gem lvl but even that you can't push the dps. I start with pathfinder viper mamba. Maybe try chaos golem with eternal legion mid league.

[@morfea123]

1:58 aka "reverse WIlson"

[@nezunskyfire292]

Thanks for the great content, Ghazzy! Still huffing copium that Reaper will get buffed one day.

[@eldorath1]

@@nezunskyfire292 "Great content", the whole vid is just missinfo.

[@dungphan8041]

What a way to distract us from spectre sucks, all I can think of is "where's the real Ghazzy"

[@bjorni9977]

Who is this, we need to start ghazzy rescue operations

[@termochila4985]

yes so you see.. other minion builds use AG and spectres and minions, but full spectre only uses spectres, and no FUCKIN AG

[@moisesmera7913]

Is it possible for me to power level someone else in Poe? Like a new player?

[@adriankrzyszton8]

You can, but it's pointless as you can't skip campaign. So you could rush him through campaign using your waypoints and power level in delve for example. For me it's just not worth it. Either supply them with Twink gear for leveling or do what I did few times - make new character and level along with them.

[@shockmike00]

Yes I do it all the time. You can rush someone in under two hours if youre fast

[@takamichinoku4167]

They always do nerfs to builds I always get interested in lol. I can't ever understand this logic in a PVE ARPG game .... I'm just going to wait till POE 2 lol

[@Smite_Sion]

Half-remembered goliaths are quite decent from my short amount of testing on guardian (DO NOT PLAY IT ON A GUARDIAN)

[@VelvetSky1102]

meh, they require link skills to unlock all abilities

[@jefreyvalencia4669]

Who are you i came to watch ghazzyl??? 😂

[@sefr3064]

Ghazzy got that chad chin

[@azir9241]

May overthink ur build and put spectres to a much higher tier? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npPOioqcls6Nq9k

[@OfficialMaddeck]

I melted bosses last league with 8 shamans

[@tehf00n]

You had a shave? When is the court date? :D

[@jdc9703]

wow! thumbalienna jolie too. damn, gotta hate that too...

[@BigBoru]

its working fine here...

[@MrPsykopeta]

wait, babyghazzy is back?!

[@KszyhuSZEF]

baby vesion of ghazzy, where is true ghazzy?

[@MengHao4693]

ssir who is this? WHO IS THIS??!! IS THIS THE MASK?!

[@JH-vw3mr]

The result of nerf after nerf of spectres by GGG, that even forged frostbearers can't save them

[@eldorath1]

@@JH-vw3mr Frostbearers are amazing, ghazzy just cant seem to figure it out. But i posted a proper pob in the comment section or my build. Crushing everything including T17s.

[@timati78rus]

​@@eldorath1sry, where i can find your POB?

[@eldorath1]

@@timati78rus its in the main comment section or this vid, just scroll abit if its not at the top

[@timati78rus]

@@eldorath1 sry, i saw your comments in main section, but no links there. Can you please post here, without server address, only after slash.

[@eldorath1]

@@timati78rus For some reason it seems to be deleted. I checked the main section as well and cant find it.

[@VelvetSky1102]

spectres 4 life 👻

[@vincentnguyen3068]

FREE GHAZZY!!!!

[@vincentgrinn2665]

well i guess im glad i didnt league start spectres then, i suppose? bit unfortunate

[@HeathenTrucker]

Now they suck??

[@TomJakobW]

Thank goodness I didn’t reroll class when I heard the frostbearer-announcement from ghazzy 😅

[@Pluke89]

Why you need 100k subs if i may ask you?thx for your build guide 😊

[@Gmantis96]

This didn't age well.

[@balanarsro000]

thumbspeaking

[@bjornt3612]

Nice

[@bamfscott]

What's the best utility spectre offensively for forged frostbearer's?

[@ChadKappaGiga]

Sad to see people so focused on running a meta build. No one has any actual skill anymore or even understands what they're playing. This is the reason gaming has gone to shit. Sweaties and tier lists... Pathetic