SPEED ENGINEERING HEADERS AND X-PIPE INSTALLATION ON C5 CORVETTE PART 2

[@BadLuckGarage]

MEMO TO MY TROLL: You missed the part 1 video. If you could hop over there and click the thumbs down I could use the extra view and interaction points you provide to get more views. -Thanks. 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻

[@rememberussliberty1822]

Be careful under that car man. You can never have too many jack stands

[@BadLuckGarage]

No but I think four is plenty. 😜

[@emmanuelmartinez1076]

Nice video. . Sucks you pay extra for better clamps and still leak. Thank you for the install video. .

[@BadLuckGarage]

The new clamps didn’t leak. It was leaking in the area that we DIDNT use the better clamps. This was explained multiple times throughout the video. Of course that was remedied years ago by spending $40 on the better clamps about 4 days after making these videos. 😉

[@nathanbingham3204]

I was having trouble with the midpipes. Couldn't get them slid onto the headers all the way with having the x pipe on, but it looks like you had the same issue. Guess thats just how they are lol.

[@BadLuckGarage]

The mid pipes on mine seemed to be slightly twisted a bit no matter what I did. Not a big deal but definitely triggered my ocd a bit. Lol.

[@corybenton1487]

How did these hold up after 5 years? Im very interested

[@BadLuckGarage]

Great

[@samshipley1311]

I like the way it sounds now, the wide clamps i used myself and really like them. I think theyd work good for you.

[@BadLuckGarage]

I bought the 2 autozone had in stock for the header connection and gonna buy two more for the midpipe to xpipe connection. But the connections in the back I’m just gonna have welded. Those friggen safety clamps are $11 each. 😳 I just hope they work on those front two connections. If they don’t then it’s gonna be V-band time.

[@rememberussliberty1822]

@@BadLuckGarage man you are spot on about shit being exaggerated on forums..I was reading some old threads about converting a 2wd silverado to 4wd and 90% of people were like "your better off buying a 4wd its soo hard". Come to find out its fairly simple people are just lazy and a bunch of pussies these days.

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yeah most things are like that brother. people who have never done things before tend to think they are harder to do than they actually are

[@kevinhammock967]

If you already dont have a exhaust shop you like, try mighty muffler on western ave. Theyve always treated me right and have always done awesome work

[@BadLuckGarage]

LOL, I actually named them in the video brother.😅I even have two videos where I gave them shout outs for helping with other projects.

[@kevinhammock967]

Lol my bad man. Mustve not heard their name mentioned. Definitely the best exhaust shop around here though

[@BadLuckGarage]

yep.Unless I get a mig soon, thats where Ill be taking it.

[@smokinC5]

Thanks!! Great video! I have the borla muffler delete axle back system and want to do these. I worry they may be too loud tho lmao.

[@yungtooli]

were they too loud?

[@smokinC5]

@@yungtooli the xpipe actually quieted it down and mellowed out the sound. Got rid of that motorboating noise, and gave it a smoother burble if that makes sense.

[@yungtooli]

@@smokinC5 wow really? your car got quieter after headers and x pipe? i have the borla s type on mine and i have manzo headers and catless x pipe that im getting ready to install and im after a bit more sound, i definitely dont wanna quiet it down lol

[@yungtooli]

@@smokinC5 x pipes definitely make muffler delete c5s sound a lot better at idle though from what ive seen

[@smokinC5]

@@yungtooli no headers....just xpipe and straight pipes rest of the way. Borla xpipe amd borla 12649 exhaist.

[@jcs003]

I will be installing these on my 2012 CTS-V. Thanks for the video it gave me reassurance with my purchase.

[@BadLuckGarage]

Glad to help brother. Hopefully they fit the V as well as they fit my C5. 👍🏻

[@firstplacelegendgamingmore9800]

I like em,I'll probably run those on my c5,I'll weld the back half and use the advance auto clamps up front. I like the fact the headers go I smooth from the bottom with almost no hassle nice videos ,thanks

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yes sir! Easiest headers I’ve installed in probably 20 years! They do fit really nice too. But the way they twist underneath kinda bothers me though.

[@dominickguerrero5664]

So I’ve been trying to find an answer. If I get this x pipe and header setup , I plug the rear 02 sensors into the dongle in the x pipe. But without any cats on it, will it throw any codes because it doesn’t have any cats ?

[@BadLuckGarage]

As shown in the video, there no rear O2 bungs in this setup and yes it will be necessary to shut off the codes for them in the tune. 👍

[@dominickguerrero5664]

Bad Luck Garage could you briefly Kinda explain how to get rid of the codes

[@BadLuckGarage]

You have to set them to no error reported with HP Tuners or a similar interface. Or pay someone to do it.

[@codylawson2375]

Thank you for the video

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thank you for watching Cody. I hope it helped you out. 👍🏻

[@dawscarp]

what cutback exhaust do you have on the car

[@BadLuckGarage]

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[@Beezy_Builds]

Just ordered mines you convinced me brother👍🏽, so I need two 2.5" clamps, 4 3" clamps, and what size were the collector clamps?

[@BadLuckGarage]

Good deal brother. I’m really happy with mine. Collector clamps are 3”.

[@Beezy_Builds]

@@BadLuckGarage thanks brother

[@BadLuckGarage]

NP👍🏻

[@tjs_welding_and_fabrication]

Nice vid. Great explaination of the pain points.

[@JUSTusSKATERS]

I may have missed it, but did you need the o2 extensions? Speed engineering said I’d need them. But everyone else has said I didn’t. I just need some extra guidance

[@BadLuckGarage]

I bought a set but ended up not needing them.

[@youngestson6537]

Great videos and 2. Very informative.

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks brother.

[@Zx9crazy2]

Thank you for the video! I have a 2002 with a Borla Atak axle back, I just received my Speed Engineering headers, looking to do the install this weekend so I will start looking at local parts stores for the good clamps What axle back system do you have? It definitely sounds amazing with these headers

[@BadLuckGarage]

It has a Borla axleback. And the stepped clamps I recommend are linked in the video description and are cheaper and seal better than the ones at the non-stepped ones auto parts store.

[@cloverkingproduction7124]

Did you get the clamps or did you weld the pipes? I’m thinking about installing this system on a 14’ gen5 Camaro SS. I’m also getting the true dual exhaust system and ditching my stock system. What are your thoughts on the SE headers and SE true duals?

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yes I bought the clamps I was talking about in the video. They were only about $5 each on eBay. As for the stuff for the Camaro, I can’t help you there brother. I don’t really have any experience with that system.

[@cloverkingproduction7124]

Bad Luck Garage don’t the C5 have an LS3 and L99?

[@BadLuckGarage]

No. LS3 didn’t come out till midway through the C6 bodystyle. Even then the Corvette and Camaro exhaust systems will be nothing like each other. Two totally different platforms.

[@CallsignHades]

did you ever get the wide clamps and if so did they end up fixing the leaks?

[@BadLuckGarage]

Erik F yes and yes. But I still haven’t welded the rear section yet

[@joeponder9668]

If you are still having trouble finding those band clamps go to your local semi truck shop, 90% of a semi trucks exhaust is held together with those style clamps, they should have them on hand by the dozens!

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks brother. Great tip because they usually only keep a couple of each size in hand at the auto stores. I bought two from the Autozone at the end of my street last night and was gonna grab two more at another location today. I think I’m just gonna go ahead and weld the four rear slip fittings up though.

[@OnlyDigs]

I just got mine SE headers in today, I've been working on installing them all night and into the morning. Sadly, it seems my luck isn't as good as yours when it comes to fitment. The passenger side header directly sits against an AC line, and the end of the collector runs into the side wall below the torque tube, so I can't slide the mid pipe or clamp on. Have you had any issues with the passenger header hitting this AC line? (The one with heat shielding around it from the factory). I'm not too sure what I should do now except for contact Speed Engineering and see if I can hopefully exchange just the passenger header, as everything else seems ok so far. As far as getting them in, mine didn't just slide right in like yours did either, we fought with it for about 20 minutes until we realized we'd have to disconnect the steering shaft and some ground wires on the drivers side, and disconnect the starter wires on the passenger side. Not a big deal and still fairly easy install. Also, my collectors were both heavily dented like your passager side was. I heard nothing but great things about the fitment and quality of these headers, besides the shitty clamps that is. But I have to say, I'm actually pretty disappointed so far. Hopefully Speed Engineering can make it right.

[@BadLuckGarage]

Sorry you’re having issues brother. No I had none of the issues you’ve mentioned. Keep in mind ac lines can easily be tweaked or bent a little to give clearance. When installing them from the bottom, I just held the wires back against the firewall and they literally slid right in on both sides with no issues whatsoever. As stated in the video, this was an automatic 2002. A manual trans car may have the the slave cylinder in the way but I wouldn’t know since I haven’t done an install in one. I will say that if your collector is hitting the tunnel wall then it sounds like you got a bad piece for sure. Good luck and hopefully SE will take care of that for you. 👍🏻

[@mcfero1]

Are your motor mounts good? I know for f bodies the headers won’t fit as well and rub the floorboards when the motor mounts are shot.

[@jameymote4598]

Another cool vid. 😎 i like your video's man

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks brother. I like your emojis on all of them. 👍🏻

[@Ricovette]

Thank you for this second upload! Thumbs up from me... Stay safe... Rico (01' Millennium Yellow)

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks for watching. Not sure if you know or not but the Chinavette has its own playlist so if that’s the only project you’re interested in on the channel you can just goto that playlist and not have to sift through all the other project vehicle videos. 👍🏻

[@Ricovette]

@@BadLuckGarage - Thank you! Appreciate it very much! Rico

[@dtdtank06]

Great video! I have my SE Headers on order now (back ordered until Christmas). Did you end up welding any part of the exhaust at all?

[@jasoncameron34]

Hey bro it sounds good on camera if it was me I would use those clamps their around 10 bucks I'd say if your gonna keep it I'd weld it but I believe your changing it right?

[@BadLuckGarage]

already bought the clamps brother. Plan is clamps in front, weld the back like I said in the video. 👍

[@jasoncameron34]

@@BadLuckGaragegood deal and I remember you said that but at end of the video you said you might get 8 lol

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yea I was thinking about trying to fix it without welding first but those clamps cost more than I would pay to just have it welded so really doesn't make sense.

[@jasoncameron34]

@@BadLuckGarage true plus them clamps still might leak I never used them so idk but you have them welded and forget it bud but I think it sounds great so far cant wait for next mod

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks brother. Yea I drove my youngest daughter to school in it this morning and it sounds mean as hell from inside the car but outside you can hear all the leaks. I’ll have to use four clamps up front because if I have it welded anywhere ahead of the Xpipe it would make future disassembly impossible but from the X-pipe back it’s definitely getting welded up. Like I said I already bought two of those clamps last night(that was all the autozone at the end of the road had in stock). I’m gonna buy two more from another location today and my put them in tonight if I get off work early enough. I’m very hopeful those will seal but if not then I’ll order up four 3” Vband setups and next time my cousin is in town (he’s currently working in Kentucky) I’ll take it to his house and do a video with him tigging them in place of the first two slip joints on each side. He’s actually wanting me to treat his house for some pests anyway so it’d be a good exchange of services. Lol

[@DarrenMalone253]

Best "cheap" muffler to install after your setup?

[@BadLuckGarage]

eBay axleback. I’ve talked about it in other videos in this build playlist. It’s basically a clone of the Borla axleback system seen in this video but for less than $400 and sounds very similar.

[@bottlefedcorvette2973]

What size are those adapters? Mine didnt come with them, so I had to buy a set myself. Its 3 inch to 2.75 inch correct?

[@BadLuckGarage]

www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=IgijXsqAPcGLtAb-nZTgCg&q=speed+engineering+contact+infor&oq=speed+engineering+contact+infor&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBADMgcIIRAKEKABMgcIIRAKEKABOgIIKToFCCkQgwE6BQgpEKABOgUIABCDAToCCAA6AgguOgIIBToGCAAQFhAeOgUIIRCgAToFCCEQqwI6CAghEBYQHRAeUJEOWONHYOhLaABwAHgAgAGMAogBvhuSAQYxOS45LjOYAQCgAQGwAQ8&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp

[@JUSTusSKATERS]

What kind of mufflers do you have on?

[@BadLuckGarage]

Borla

[@edgarrodriguez9684]

Did you use the o2 sensor extensions?

[@BadLuckGarage]

No they weren’t necessary. I actually talked about that in other videos I believe.

[@shawnstenger2630]

Where did you order the 01/04 dipstick an oil tube?

[@BadLuckGarage]

Covered that in part 1

[@shawnstenger2630]

Bad Luck Garage I watched it but must have missed it..I just ordered one from GM.. thanks for the reply

[@BadLuckGarage]

I think I misread your first comment. I though you asked “if” I ordered one. I stayed in part 1 that this is an 02 so I didn’t need one but that is you have a 97-00 you would need one. I didn’t put a link in the description because of that but I order everything through eBay. Even the genuine GM parts. I need to thank you for bringing this to my attention though as I’m going to place a link in the descriptions for this for those who need it now. 👍🏻

[@shawnstenger2630]

Bad Luck Garage it’s all good. The part I need will be here Tuesday

[@Chepo1500]

How you like speed engineering??

[@BadLuckGarage]

I thought I made my opinion pretty clear in the videos brother. Can’t beat it for the price....or maybe even for triple the price.

[@Chepo1500]

Bad Luck Garage I agree . I have the same ones . I’ll be doing heads cam

[@walkercole905]

Did those wide clamps fix your issues up front? Been about a year so I’m wondering if everything held up good. Your video gives me confidence to install myself on my buddies lift 👍🏻

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yes sir. If you check out the more recent videos you'' see everything I've installed is still alive and kicking....track and street.

[@ajspang4291]

Awesome vids! I have a 2000 automatic and plan on getting this kit after watching both parts. Quick question for you: did you end up fixing your leaks with bigger clamps? Thanks in advance.

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yep. Got the clamps I was talking about in ebay for about $6 each. 👍🏻

[@ajspang4291]

@@BadLuckGarage sweeeet! Thanks for the reply. That means this is a driveway job for me! Hell ya

[@BadLuckGarage]

No problem brother. If you get a buddy for an extra set of hands guiding the headers in from below it makes it way easier as well. 👍🏻

[@TheDrivewayEngineer]

I hope your local shop is better than mine, I always get the belligerent guys.

[@BadLuckGarage]

Yea he’s great. If you go back to the $40 exhaust video in the turbo C10 playlist, I actually give him and his shop a shout-out for helping us out with pipes. He’s also done several exhaust systems for my buddies and did the entire X-piped system for Project SteppinWolf from scratch before I went turbo. BUT..... if I buy a mig before that happens then I’ll probably just do it myself after a bit of practice on some scrap. 😉

[@Lee-rc5en]

First. That thing is stupid clean.

[@BadLuckGarage]

I know right?! Won’t be for long. 😈

[@chriskubond6314]

Had leaks everywhere on my SE headers and ofy pipe for a silverado. Headers fit great just like yours did. The clamps are GARBAGE. The vette sounds and looks crazy good. Both parts 1 and 2 were great videos. Very detailed and thorough. Nice job!!

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks brother. For watching and for the compliment. And yes the clamps are definitely junk. Thats Pretty much the case on any slip fit system. You would think they could spend a couple more dollars and include better hardware.....especially on the big name brand systems! Anuwy, that’s why I recommend getting the wide band clamps. I got four for like $20 on eBay and sealed the system right up!👍🏻

[@chrissmith9145]

Did you have to have it tuned after? Since no cats and not using rear 02 sensors?