Things We Hate About the 2022 Honda Civic Si

The 2022 Honda Civic Si is an amazing new car. However, there are a few things about it that we find annoying. First and foremost, US models of this car should come with fog lights, heated seats, and a heated steering wheel just like our friends in Canada get.
The infotainment system is relatively slow to boot up. What should take a matter of seconds often takes up to 45 seconds for CarPlay to activate and sync with your mobile phone.
The rear brake light impedes the vision looking out the center of the rear window. Having the lamp mounted elsewhere would have eliminated this issue.
The 2022 Civic Si doesn't have a ton of natural engine compression braking. When leaving off the gas, I'm used to a manual transmission automatically slowing down. This car carries alot of speed even when downshifting.
I dislike electric parking brakes. On a sporty car like this, having an old-school manual transmission should also provide the ability to have an old-school mechanical parking brake.
Finally, and most annoying is the fact that US models of the Civic Si come with neither a spare tire or a jack. This is a huge over site....especially when our car suffered two wheels/tires not being able to hold air due to a sticker on the tire not allowing the bead to be totally sealed!
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[@andrem5843]

Canada also get full digital cluster with shift lights, rear heated seats, wireless charging, duel zone climate and rear usb ports.

[@timthomas4646]

If you turn off the Rev Match feature you can downshift using the engine like a traditional manual transmission

[@SpeedingMedia]

Yep...we've done that with ours.

[@meatpopsicle6244]

As a 10th gen owner and purely my opinion but there is nothing about the 11th gen I like better. I don’t prefer the styling. It lost the full digital dash Lost the adaptive dampers Lost the foglights Lost the heated seats Lost the dual zone climate control I don’t like how the center display sticks up, I prefer the lower mounted in dash screen on 10th gen. Added “fake” engine noise in the cabin Added automatic rev matching I’ve got a ‘17 so it also lacks all the driver assist stuff and is much more of a raw machine and closer to what driving a manual or really any car was like from the last couple decades. At least the Si is still manual only and compared to the new WRX It’s a prince.

[@SpeedingMedia]

The more we drive this one, the more we like it. I'd like it even better if it came with all of the great stuff the Canadians get!

[@leonwaltemate6152]

Lost 5 horsepower, gained about 90 pounds. Result is noticeably slower. I'll keep my 2019 SI Coupe.

[@billwylde4846]

I have a 2023 Civic Si and the engine braking is there. You have to induce it. I have the Rev Match feature turned off. I rev match downshift, let the car coast a bit in the hill, so it is gaining some speed. THEN I step on the brake pedal and bring the speed down enough, let's say 5 MPH below speed limit. I release the brake pedal, now my car is engine braking down the very steep hill. It gains only a little of speed but then it gets to a point where it maintains it. I have a long steep hill near me with a posted speed limit of 25 MPH. After doing the procedure I described above, downshifting from third to second gear, etc. My car maintains 22 MPH down the hill. It's funny watching the other drivers tailgating me and riding their brakes. I am not even stepping on my brakes. I guess they don't know how to use the manual mode in their automatic transmission vehicle LOL! If I didn't induce the engine braking with my car. My vehicle can bomb down the hill in second gear without me giving any input. It can go up to the low 30 MPH range. I am familiar that engine braking should happen when you downshift the vehicle but I believe that it doesn't happen because of government regulations. It happens with my brother's 2018 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport with the CVT and paddle shifters. Even though he is in second, his vehicle keeps gaining speed. He also has to step on the brakes for a moment so his vehicle can maintain speed instead of gaining it. The hump of the brakelight is not an issue for me. Due to the the rear camera. Believe it or not I still turn ny head and look all over the place as I back up while using the view of the rear camera. Hell! Not even the Si's lip spoiler hinders my view. No spare tire? People should actually explore the vehicle before purchasing it. I knew it didn't come with a spare when I purchase the car because I checked to see if it came with it on the day of purchasing the vehicle. Also, most folks don't even inflate their spare tire to maintain it. Nor do they buy a new spare tire when it comes to changing the old one out. Soooo.... What's the point of a spare tire if you just forget about it when it comes to maintaining it?

[@stadce]

Any trim level over LX should come with fog lights from the factory, period... Honestly I wouldn't even complain if my Sport came with a wiring harness that was "plug and play" to add them afterwards. But no, I have to make my own harness to wire them myself 🤨

[@JoeCole12]

I won’t buy a car without a spare. Granted a lot of people can’t change a tire these days but I can do it in 10 min along the road and be on my way.

[@chrisrussellca]

In Canada here, we have the jack. The ex has heated seats, heated steering and the jack just not heated wipers

[@DiscipleofChrist101]

I agree with the handbrake. I dont care at all about anything else. HOWEVER: For all the missing features from the Canadian version, this U.S. versions MSRP should be $25,000 at most.

[@SpeedingMedia]

I just wish they'd give all US models the same options...even if it cost a bit more.

[@jimrich4192]

Im old school & prefer a manuel park brake which can double as an EXTRA brake if the foot brake fails. I also resent the rear brake light taking up some of the back window view. My 22 4:30 Civic has a "stcky" electric powered steering wheel but im getting accustomed to it! Wish it had a night-time convenience light.

[@kbeau937]

the rev matching i think makes it NOT slow down when downshifting. you can turn it off

[@chanproperties]

My 2008 Honda Civic EX had a Flat. Well I thought I would just call the Tow Truck to take me to the Tire shop without me changing out the Donut. Well I waited and waited and later found out that the Tow Truck also had a Flat which is why he wasn't coming. It only took me minutes to install the Spare and went to the Tire shop. Had I Not have the Spare I would have to Sit and Wait for the Next Tow Truck. Honda is just trying to be Cheap here.

[@Offensively-normal]

I was actually calling out other manufacturers for not having a spare. I have the 22 sport touring and it has one. I recommend getting a aftermarket one. I can't imagine getting towed over a flat. It's ridiculous.

[@SpeedingMedia]

Agreed!

[@FreddyTheGti]

My 2022 civic ex has the spare tire and jack also have not had any problems ive had it about a month so far

[@SpeedingMedia]

@@FreddyTheGti I'll trade you my factory air compressor and plug kit for your spare and jack.

[@FreddyTheGti]

@@SpeedingMedia I dont think my nitrogen tires would like air lol

[@kylewente9114]

Super helpful firsthand experience! Thank you very much

[@No1uknow68]

I completely agree with you. Thanks!

[@BobKarnowski]

I had a '15 Elantra Sport that came with no spare, but Hyundai did have a a factory spare tire kit. The kit was like $150 and I also had to purchase a donut tire and have it mounted. Another thing; Because of your SI having a Limited Slip Differential if you did have a spare you can't put the donut on the front of the vehicle (the donuts are usually a smaller diameter than the car's tires which is what will damage the LSD...Maybe part of Honda's reasoning for skipping the spare). You have to remove a rear tire, put the donut on the rear and then put that rear full size tire on the front. If you don't do this you can mess up the LSD. I had a front go flat on my '07 SI and had to do this. Luckily I'm in the minority of people who read the manual and had come across this little tidbit. What really makes no sense is that my son's 2020 Civic Sport Hatch and my wife's 2022 Sport Sedan came with spare, a jack, and all the normal bits for changing a flat. So why not include a spare?????

[@SpeedingMedia]

Interesting point about the LSD

[@leoseitz3045]

Thanks I would have missed that :)

[@shoro3211]

Agree with you but my personal biggest complaint is the paint, ik it’s a Honda issue but I Thought it would be a little bit better, 500 miles in and some lady door dinged me slightly and took the paint off completely, no scratch, just the paint

[@SpeedingMedia]

yikes...that sucks!

[@aygwm]

Honda paint has always been trash.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

I understand about that rear brake light but in my case it was the headrests. First thing I did was to take rear headrests off. I have great visibility overall and I like my manual hand break, and I love my 5 speed shifter (6 speed has to much shifting) plus I got my "manual up to 26mpg. Plus I have an full size spare and Jack but I have an Impreza sport manual hatchback which also loves snow days.....😂

[@dennisramos640]

I have a Canadian version and it comes with spare tire, wireless charger, rear view auto dim mirror and led light side mirror.

[@SpeedingMedia]

Right…so the Canadian version is just about perfect! I’m hoping Honda makes changes on US models for 2023.

[@johnfisher723]

The list of features the Canadian Si gets that you don't is a lot longer than that: fog lights, parking sensors, auto-dimming lights, turn signals on the side mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated front and rear seats, rain sensing wipers, fully digital instrument display, shift lights, an auto-dimming mirror with a built-in remote garage door opener and a remote for a home security system, a navigation system, dual zone climate control, wireless connectivity and charging for cell phones, USB jacks for the rear seat passengers, and a spare tire with a jack.

[@SpeedingMedia]

Grrrr.....

[@johnfisher723]

@@SpeedingMedia Sorry! Blame Honda USA. Honda Canada took care of us up here! 🇨🇦

[@SpeedingMedia]

@@johnfisher723 agreed!!

[@xcelr8auto965]

I agree with you about the rear brake light. For the parking brake, I place a block at the tires. I don't trust the electronic parking brake. I live on a hill.

[@SpeedingMedia]

Sheesh....I wouldn't like the block idea. I trust the parking brake. I just don't like it. A proper hand brake would be so much better.

[@markbaldwin4436]

I agree about the lack of a spare, it’s just cost cutting. If you buy a spare and jack after the fact it’s much more expensive than just getting one with the car originally.

[@SpeedingMedia]

If you buy a spare/jack after the fact, it is still missing the brackets and attachments to store it under the trunk. This is a huge bummer for me.

[@ve6753]

I actually scored the Canadian model in the States 'used' with slightly less than 1500 mis on it; knew the owner as well: she lost her job, traded it in for a FIT and scratch, then re-migrated North.

[@Dia1Up]

As a Fit owner, they are seriously good cars

[@SOULCRAFTONE]

The Si brake system is nothing like the FL5 . Dude you have to upgrade the rotors and your brake calipers if you really want that aggressive braking lol

[@chodkowski01]

My lower trim 2022 Honda Civic came with a spare tire and Jack.

[@twodobermansandaguy8897]

I have a 2018 Honda Civic SI four-door. I spoke with my service manager at my Honda dealer when I bought my SI, who I trust, and he explained that the civic SI has slightly larger brake rotors than other civics. Therefore the space saver spare tire will not work on the SI. I was even offered by them a spare tire kit, Jack, tire and all tools for $150 but he told me it won’t work.

[@SpeedingMedia]

The Canadian models get a spare, jack, and lug wrench. Something doesn't add up.

[@jamesmedina2062]

its not a rotor issue.

[@jeffrey3498]

Couldn’t agree more. The Si is a sporty daily driver, and to not provide a spare tire with a daily driver is just dumb.

[@80srockerable]

I like the Si. Maybe in time you can order a spare tire kit and put in place of the foam.

[@brianprovorse7103]

I've never driven one, but I have 3 things I hate about it. No hatchback option. Red seats. The rear seats look totally different than front.

[@fleegus5175]

what's funny is even TLXs don't come with spare tires, even the top specs. oddly enough foreign models do include a spare tire. Not sure why we can't get them in the US market. At least as an option would be nice but still a middle finger at the end of the day.

[@a124as]

Doesn’t it not engine brake bc of the rev match?

[@psewgobind]

If you're coasting in gear, pay attention the live consumption bar, you'll notice that it goes down to zero. It's a technique to seriously improve consumption by maximizing on the cars ability to use no gas while rolling along in gear... I don't a agree about the spare tires, but I do love my Honda jack on the 10th Gen. On a track day, I was able completely lift up the side of the car and do front-to-rear tire rotation. What's cool, it weights about 1lbs, so it comes with me for track days, but the spare tire stay in the shed.

[@moph7July06]

I was thinking about a Civic Si. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find one locally or within a reasonable driving distance. Fortunately, I was steered into the direction of an VW GTI. For what comes standard on the GTI vs Si, I believe I got a better deal with the 2023 GTI-S. The GTI’s infotainment system isn’t as bad as reviewers say. I was able to be comfortable with the controls (or lack their of) within the first few rides. Your positive and negative videos prove to me I bought the car for me. Even without driving an Si. I traded in my 21 Mustang GT Premium for the 23 GTI-S. Not because of fuel economy. I believe in Smiles Per Gallon not MPG. I wanted a more engaging driving experience and practically when need (riding my dog or the rare time of riding with the wifey and two kids). 🤘

[@davideaton6928]

You believe in smiles per gallon cuz your not broke lol people who believe in mpg are brownies

[@miguelfm3102]

Low profile tires are garbage

[@jelljell7871]

You right about the rear mirror and the spare tire,, but regarding the Canadian fully loaded Si,I think Honda put that accessories on the luxurious version “Acura” which Canada misses. Those things are really annoying I agree with you

[@SpeedingMedia]

I honestly don't totally understand the point of the new Integra. 8-10k more than a Civic SI for for essentially the same car. The Civic Si is an absolute bargain for what it is.

[@johnjohnson4995]

@@SpeedingMedia Do you think it is still a bargain even with the Canadian features missing?

[@SpeedingMedia]

@@johnjohnson4995 I think it is. We've owned it for a year and just hit 10k miles...and we've enjoyed every mile.

[@johnjohnson4995]

@@SpeedingMedia i just bought mine for MSRP brand new! I like driving it, but it just eats at me about all the removed features on the US version because i like looking at the value of things and what you get for it. Otherwise pretty solid!

[@SpeedingMedia]

@@johnjohnson4995 Bugged me too which is why I made the video. The best thing I can say is...just drive it and enjoy it!

[@AH-bm4ts]

No spare tire!? Honda is one of the last holdouts with including them, I think the new HRV still has one. Maybe the Integra addresses some of your complaints with the si?

[@rodgerdodger2459]

My 2022 civic sport has one. I think it’s just the si

[@kingjamaica305]

That's crazy, my tire did the same on the 2023 SI at 700 miles.

[@robertevans3604]

I bought 2022 Sport Touring Hatch and I have everything that you're missing except the heated steering wheel and heated rear seats. Honestly, not having a spare tire scared me away from considering other makes and models when it came time to buy a new car. Maybe you could trade up? lol

[@SpeedingMedia]

I have a friend who owns a large auto salvage yard. I have him on the hunt for a spare tire and jack out of a wrecked 2022 Civic. It might take some time but he'll eventually get one.

[@AmitDixit13]

Manual hand brake , fog lamp and full size alloy wheel should be given (2009 Indian ver has them). I'm driving my civic since 2009 and today only i fixed the only major problem i ever had (power steering main pipe). I want to buy the new one but they discontinued it here :(

[@a124as]

09 here too. Best Gen.

[@optfk8718]

Yeah. I'm not a fan of electronic parking brakes. My fk8 type R ended up rolling into the parking barrier slowly when I forgot to apply it once. Ended up cracking the front plastic. Something about just forgetting to pull one button. An actual handbrake though, can't forget that and never done so before.

[@wazewaze8185]

You should always keep your car in gear when parked. Armature mistake

[@leoseitz3045]

@@wazewaze8185 had mine in gear still made it half way down the drive way :( ebrake is pos.

[@deanreutter3101]

So do all the other Civic models come with a spare tire and jack? Just the Si that doesn't?

[@SpeedingMedia]

Great question...and I'm not totally sure. My guess is the other models have the tire/jack.

[@markymarc4651]

How's your insurance with it? Does it cost way much more than lower trim models?

[@SpeedingMedia]

I'm not sure what the insurance price is on a lower trim model, but I don't find the Si insurance to be unreasonable at all.

[@isaiahmorris2080]

What’s the thing about the gas door. Is it really just a push in gas door without a cap? I would think the car doesn’t slow down when downshifting because of the turbocharger. If it was a naturally aspirated engine like a Nissan z. It would slow down. This car, I would think you need to be aggressive with the shifter because it’s only 200 hp with 6 speed transmission. The gears are very short.

[@SpeedingMedia]

It is a push in gas door without a cap. When you lock the doors, the gas cap also locks.

[@isaiahmorris2080]

@@SpeedingMedia Oh ok. I was about to say. That would be a little weird and I worry about safety issues like that.

[@robertevans3604]

@@SpeedingMedia With the high cost of fuel, I would consider that a plus!

[@xSP33DYx408]

I was about to buy the car but having a no handbrake is a big no for me

[@wazewaze8185]

Llllllll

[@hugochato55]

I think you get a nicer cluster too

[@jesusp1335]

I just got my 2024 same color now im kinda disappointed 😢

[@moneyseeker8886]

The car should’ve been priced at $24/25,000 with so many features missing smh 🤦‍♂️ plus the mark ups was so damn high I had to walk away from 2 dealers… I’m gonna go with the 10th gen si instead

[@poopygoopyewwww9174]

Yes I hate the E brake so much.... 😑

[@psewgobind]

I like the E brake. it's bullet proof and makes changing rear pad and rotator very easy (once you lookup how to release the Ebrake).

[@leoseitz3045]

its almost a deal breaker for me... at least the GTI auto engages so you don't have to worry about flicking the evil switch everytime. I now have to tripple check the red now since one time it was missed and made it half way down my drive way... yes it was in gear or it would have been a mess.

[@chrisrussellca]

My iPhone takes 5 secs to load….. it’s your phone

[@1969negan]

I also love my new 22SI. But no spare tire hello.! Did Honda do it for budget or weight.??. going to look into after market spare tire. I have no complaints with using downshifting for engine breaking with my SI. Great daily driver. Come on Honda the SI still is a commuter car put a spare tire and Jack in it. The problem is is the The kit they provide you only works for certain kinds of punctures.It's the least they could do for 28 or $29000 base price.

[@SpeedingMedia]

agreed

[@RAY_FILET]

Do you think there are any potential negative consequences from using auto rev match?

[@SpeedingMedia]

The only negative I can think of, personally speaking, is that with it on, the driver loses the ability to learn to process of how to rev match on their own. My son turned the auto rev match off and prefers to do it old-school style.

[@1958Cadillac-v2g]

Yeah, most manufacturers use a nice thin led strip across the top of the window. This is so 80s looking.

[@tremontefr5617]

I hear you on the spare tire. There are aftermarket kits you can get for the spare tire.

[@j.mendizzle3237]

Been looking at this car. Glad to know these are all first world problems. Definitely an upgrade for me currently daily driving a 2000 integra gsr.

[@mattf2535]

Did you notice any oil burning with this updated engine?

[@SpeedingMedia]

Not so far.

[@northphillyjun]

Steering rack was replaced now I like car hated it was crazy to maintain lain in rain 🌧 let alone regular driving

[@xp50player]

My USA sport sedan has the spare. Not much to distinguish it visually from an Si. I don’t think any Sis are made in the US, just the hatch models.

[@bluester02]

What do you mean by made in the US?

[@legz64]

Canadian version comes with a spare tire

[@BlancaGonzalez-ko3zo]

Agree ,,,Honda hope somebody hear all the good ideas 💡 ,,,honda always room to improve 🎉

[@AK-of9qx]

Luv my 🇨🇦 22 SI. But the new wiper design is horrible. Basically the driver side windshield washer is useless. It dumps fluid about half way up and it just pushes off the windshield, and don’t do it going slow speed with the window down cause it’ll straight into the car lol 🤦🏻‍♂️. And also the “wireless charger” is slow as molasses..

[@SpeedingMedia]

I'll have to look into the wiper situation a bit deeper. It hasn't rained here in a month and a half so I don't recall noticing what you describe. As far as the wireless charger being slow....at least the Canadian models got that feature!!

[@jonr-p2079]

@@SpeedingMedia My phone lost charge while charging on the wireless charger. It really is just for show

[@SpeedingMedia]

@@jonr-p2079 That stinks

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@SpeedingMedia he means nozzles that squirt fluid

[@JoeCole12]

It’s typical for a turbo car to have less engine braking because of lower compression ratio.

[@jamesmedina2062]

the compression is 10:1 and the issue is the throttle body does not close on decel. It stays open. With KTuner I think you can change that.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Todays cars have too many issues

[@lightofthenight08]

You forgot the temperature gauge lol

[@SpeedingMedia]

You're right...there is no temperature gauge!

[@wazewaze8185]

K tuner will solve that :p

[@ak101farhan]

We get spare tires here in asia

[@jokiejoke1]

I hate the seat bet chime I wish I could turn it off I wear my seat belt but passengers don’t

[@jamesmedina2062]

they should

[@julionb87]

I don't care about the jack and spare as much as I do the split gauge cluster. Canada gets the full digital cluster and America gets half.

[@SpeedingMedia]

That part is a bummer....but I'd definitely rather have a proper jack, lug wrench, and spare that travels with the car.

[@davideaton6928]

A integra woulda fixed most of your problems .

[@edisonmuset]

excelent....

[@erikhaynes5506]

Canada also gets a spare tire. RIP USA Honda.

[@SpeedingMedia]

Canada gets alot that the US doesn't

[@kclefthanded427]

It's stupid to tune the 1.5 Turbo for more power. Its not designed for high revving

[@machinesandthings7121]

No spare tire, deal breaker for me.

[@swingbag12]

All civics are made in Canada

[@cabral4116]

You want hand break my brother lol they barely are giving us manuals lol

[@uu3rnn]

your rev match is on

[@SpeedingMedia]

We turned that off after a few days

[@martinjomathew6113]

You should forward your video to Honda.

[@SpeedingMedia]

Haha…I’m gonna take that as a compliment.

[@joshuastoia220]

I agree you should forward, it's merited. Good info btw, thanks!

[@Fracking2319]

😂😂😂no soul at all sir

[@SpeedingMedia]

I speak the truth!! I hate the electric parking brake.

[@rabbitmg7737]

Ok Karen 😆

[@kclefthanded427]

It's stupid to tune the 1.5 Turbo for more power. Its not designed for high revving