SPG DAY

[@ClausKellerman]

Get ready to have a great weekend everyone!

[@mixalisvatraxopoulos8203]

jesus watch out guys 5 to 15 comeing :)

[@RafterMan2086]

have an awesome weekend yourself Claus, have fun, stay sexy

[@willdodge200]

Loved the Dylan reference.

[@joekissel5324]

@ClausKellerman THANK YOU! i am the player in the second battle of this video. i have recently added the third tier iii mobility improvement package. i really have not found anything that i like to fit in the third slot yet. and the reasons for the large consumables is for the buffs that they provide like the -5% for stun and +15% for crew protection i don't think i really need the fire extinguisher, and the 10% to repair speed could be helpful if i get tracked :) this battle was from 3-5-24

[@johnathansaegal3156]

Thank you for having an SPG day every now and then.

[@HeinzGuderian_]

Shoot, move, communicate...Basic artillery doctrine.

[@vernonbice732]

Basic military doctrine for any combat unit.

[@MDMARaver]

Only in real life. But WOT is so close to real life then earth is to Alpha Centauri.

[@HeinzGuderian_]

@@vernonbice732 only if you want to live.

[@jeffreypurcell4681]

And be next to a large water source ! 😂

[@johncodmore]

Yes I propel myself, always looking for a better angle and avoiding counter battery fire. Love it when I get post game rage from enemy I hit by accident.

[@woodyamsterdam]

It depends. When I have a free line of fire on a target rich environment I usually stick to that spot, only moving slightly between shots to avoid counter battery. In other cases I adapt to how the battle is evolving; moving to other locations to have a better line of fire or following my team when they make a push.

[@thecellulontriptometer4166]

When I play SPG's(normally for critical hits missions), the moment I fire, I come out of sniper mode and press the W to relocate. This does three things; 1. It protects from counter battery fire and keeps light tanks from knowing where to go for a thunder run. 2. It keeps players who are following my shot trajectories from knowing where to get cover. 3. It keeps me actively problem solving for better angles.

[@salty4496]

Don't play SPG'S myself, but do find watching SPG replays strangely soothing, thanks Claus :)

[@ThomasWinget]

I haven't played in a couple years, but when I did play SPG I absolutely moved. I'd also watch common SPG spots on the other side if I had no reasonable targets and see if I can't spot a cheeky tree fall or fence break. Hell, the clan I joined I was invited because I blind one-shot a guy in a dicker max on mountain pass after he drove over a tree at the beginning of the game. Shout out to to that guy for being impressed rather than salty!

[@mikedeaton6416]

Shoot and scoot. The higher the tier, the more you need to relocate between shots.

[@xkoote]

I play a lot of SPG. I rarely stand still. One for counter-battery, two as you say to create angles, and three to decrease distance and shell travel time and increase accuracy of the shot.

[@Johnny-ge7yb]

The large kits give bonuses. Myself, I carry large on all vehicles for the bonuses, but I never ever activate them so there is no real cost.

[@ashleybarnett3390]

GW Panther is a very good SPG..i used to play it a lot...also makes credits.

[@brucegoodwin634]

It's the one German SPG I have settled on. Decent accuracy. Maybe the best mid-tier SPG.

[@brealistic3542]

Yes its actually pretty good. Far more accurate then most arty and can relocate.

[@paulfountain1364]

You move if you wish to be any good. Preparation is everything. On the move is just commitment to where they'll be. And yes, Arty got nerfed so hard, only complete muppetry makes us look good.

[@YoungerFuthark]

I've got hundreds of large fire extinguishers and large first aid kits from rewards, so it actually costs me more to use the small ones.

[@generalpublic3744]

When I played SPG's I moved if there was an absence of targets. However, there are legitimate reasons for not moving, first, view range is poor and moving can get you spotted, especially in the higher tiers where spotting range is good for a lot of vehicles. Second, you can place yourself in a worse position, because a lot of vehicles are fast and move about the battlefield, so by the time you lumber to a new position with your old crate, you find you still don't have targets!

[@dandel351]

As a former SPG player staying alive involves moving after every shot to counter your enemy SPG finding you from your muzzle blast. But now they've dumbed the game down that much that arty spotting is simple since the firing of the gun A tells the enemy they've been targeted, B gives off a huge tracer when you fire (giving away your position) and finally nerfing the damage from HE blast so much you need to rely on this stupid fucking stun mechanic. That player in the first match should have been doing 1000hp minimum with a direct hit. As you can tell I haven't played in good while as the game has really degenerated into a pathetic version of it's former self. Your reload is so slow and accuracy so bad that the reward for a good shot should be a massive amount of damage. Anyway I've had my rant. I'm just waiting to see what Premium Ammo Avoider does next. He's more entertaining to watch than the rest of this fucking shit show game. Cheers Claus , keep calling out the bullshit as you see it mate!

[@charles_the_elder]

I play Arty, and I move around a bit. Trying to actually hit a target with Arty is an interesting mental game, I have to be thinking the whole time about angles, obstacles, and where the enemy will be moving.

[@jeffms5068]

Hey Claus, my use of SPGs is almost nonexistent, but my observation of them shows that they play more like towed arty than SPGs. And that's strange because even at lower tiers, which presumably represent an early time in history when most arty was towed, WG chose to make ALL arty self-propelled. Some of the most remarkable modern arty IRL are highly mobile, like the French CAESAR and the Swedish ARCHER systems (the ARCHER can fire 3 rounds and depart before the first round has landed), both 155mm guns. I'm pretty sure no one wants that kind of arty firepower in WoT, but at least SPG players have the mobility if they only use it.

[@TheStoutbeard]

yes I play them and I move a lot

[@singncarpenter6270]

I haven't played SPGs in a long time but when I did, I moved after every shot. My SPG WR is way better than my other tanks. Up near 60%. You get counter battery shot by a good enemy SPG if you don't move and vise versa for the enemy SPGs. If nobody is spotted to shoot at, look for the tracers of your counterparts and blind shoot them. $.02

[@mudducke8]

This is normal for SPGs. Fully aimed shots go wherever they want. Over, under, etc. Hard to get a direct hit.

[@richardstewart6900]

LeFH is supposed to be a killer-op SPG. Mine has a pretty good crew (5+ skills) and top kit. I've had more than one game where I've not moved, nor have I moved my fully aimed-in reticle totally closed on a static target and yet somehow missed 7 out of 8 shots. More than a little suspicious, eh WG??? 🤔🤣

[@mudducke8]

@@richardstewart6900 I know the feeling. My M44 used to be my goto SPG. Now, I can't hit a barn door from the inside.

[@zemankraluje2418]

if regluar tanks had the same rng, people would be crying all day long for wg to make them more acurate. But since everyone hates SPGs, they are ok with that

[@through-faith-alone]

@@zemankraluje2418 good the gameplay is not in any way parallel they should introduce different arty mechanics than point and click adventure if it is to be more accurate

[@unclerojelio6320]

I haven’t had a chance to watch lately but I make time for SPG videos.

[@jack-xf6il]

Thanks Claus. I play occasional SPG, and I move after every shot, at least to avoid counter-battery, then watch out for if a flank is falling and be prepared to move to the better protected flank, at least if I can see that far enough in advance to have an escape route. Moving for angles is more map and situation specific. Usually moving side to side creates better angles one side of buildings and worse angles the other side of buildings, so it depends on where the enemies are and how much they're moving around.

[@johnathansaegal3156]

I am predominantly an SPG player. It depends on the map, but I mostly look at the minimap and nothing else. I watch the direction the enemy is moving and where my team is and position my SPG accordingly. BUT, it does depend on the map. Some maps you can pretty much hit anywhere (camp in a bushka-type maps). This map, he started in a good position, but while reloading I would be moving to get around those pillboxes with my shells. City maps, I'm rolling all over the map.

[@jumpferjoy1st]

Love playing Arty as so many muppets who fight without thinking of being arty safe. Also love the idiots that knock down trees at the start, so will blind fire those spots and get hits. Due to counter battery fire, I always move after two or three shots. Even if it is just twenty odd feet while I reload, I still move.

[@harrisonwickham7426]

i don't play spg's much but when i do i like to take a couple of shots and move...for 2 reasons 1) to not be hit by counter arty,2) to get a better angle

[@domberry1502]

Yes it's good to get on the move and see a bit of the map. Fast SPGs give an extra bit of security but not on every map.

[@victorduffy4459]

I have no idea what my WN8 is. It's probably better that I don't.

[@newdoggproductions]

Why we usually don't move is simple. By the time we get into position the enemy is usually unspotted or exploded, it's a waste of effort to move most of the time.

[@tankerforlife4978]

Jab n move my motto... This SPG has "RNG" coming out his a$$.... I hate RNG...

[@harryjohnson6655]

tip: don't wait for the shot to hit - move immediately after firing. I like countering the French auto loaders - they don't tend to move because of the short reloads.

[@FPFAJTK]

I don't play wot anymore, but when I did my favorite pre-nerf arties were the GW Panther, the leaf blower, and the SU-27. Back when the SU-27 had the 122mm howitzer and heat shells, it was the best arty in the game.

[@ajdinbijelic2951]

The leaf blower wasn't nerfed because it is a premium tank. It's still op and annoying when it hits you.

[@scewston420]

Su 26 u mean

[@dandel351]

Pre - nerf lots of arties were good. One of my favorites was the FV-304 ( Bert the Avenger) it was small it was fast and shot gunning other tanks was actually fun. But you can't have fun anymore. They made Bert huge and slow and then took away the damage . So after that it was ruined. About six months after they did that I stopped playing all together.

[@FPFAJTK]

26, 27. Been a long time, haha.​@scewston420

[@FPFAJTK]

​@ajdinbijelic2951 yeah, I've had people bitching in local chat to stop shooting them

[@Quenstar]

I play everything from the tech tree (no tier 10, a few tier 9s). In an SPG I try to move to better areas as the battle progresses.

[@dph1usa]

Everybody know French SPG best SPG for moving, Everybody knows that...

[@alex.mielus]

Up le deriere for you! And I DO play SPGs from time to time, of the Propelling (not Parked) variety.

[@simonkevnorris]

I've not played WoT for ten years but I did play SPGs and I did used to move after every shot just to avoid counter battery fire. I also used to relocate as the better evolved.

[@Zardnokalicious]

I play SPG to do missions when needed, so maybe two or three times per session depending. I play the Lefh and the M53/55 as needed. The Lefh I only move depending on the gameflow, but usually sit in a spot until I don't have shots and then move. The M53/55 I will sit in primary spot until I don't have shots, then check for Arty tracers to counter battery and then move to get different angle or if I hear incoming counter-battery. So I guess I play arty 10 to 15% of time and I move about half the time during those sessions. Sometimes you just need a chill game where you eat your food without worry. My wife plays about 25% of her games in Arty and rarely moves. I am usually her spotter, so I can insure she is protected on at least one flank.

[@A01A98745]

SPG players are people too. When I play arty, I'll equip Food, Gas (to help with the "P" in SPG) and a Large repair kit. The repair kit is to help from module damage. and I rarely use it to repair, so it doesn't cost as much. Besides, nobody plays arty to make credits lol

[@meandean3754]

Playing arty is like golfing, lots of crap shots but then you get that one shot that sucks you back into playing it again.

[@weskuk5175]

On Siegfried Line, north side A3 is excellent arty position. Mr Kellerman it is not aiming RING for arty, it can also be Ellipse. I have played over 25 000 games with clicker, I move after every shot, allways, to avoid blindshots at the "Tracer". Hope to see you in random game Mr Kellerman, it would be nice to give "Love from Sky" for you.

[@JimboDude66]

I used to play a lot of SPG, now I only use them for special missions. I move a lot to get a good angle. Therefore I love the tier 10 French SPG with big load time to move in.

[@joncox2572]

dear god those games were painful to watch. Always move between shots, plenty of time. What got me was the fiddling around, moving from target to target those guys did. Aim time is excruciating as it is more fiddling makes it worse. And they obviously don't know about right-clicking the mini map to switch targets quicker.... ugh. Have a great day Claus!

[@brien656]

When I play SPGs it always depends on, the the SPG and the map, to how much I move. For example with the GW tiger not very much if at all. It's just way too slow. maps like Himmelsdorf,(which I've excluded) have little places to go and your angles are mostly bocked by buildings. Shots going off target is a thing that has increased. If 4 dots of the dispersion circle touch anything. Buildings, pill boxes or, a big rock, that is most probably where it goes/hits. Maybe it's tied in with the non pay effects WG has incorporated.

[@vincentwiddershoven2122]

Ave Claus. To answer your question yes, i play mostly SPG. Have them in the German, Amercan and Russian line. After ever shot i move, a little or allot, depending on the game. P stands for propeld in my game, exept when i am eating my diner and playing. Have a goid weekend buddy. 👍

[@tedspeed3338]

I play the super slow Grille on occasion. I dont move unless I need to move up or we are being overrun. And no med kit or repair, just a waist of credits since when you are spotted, you are dead shortly after.

[@2tone209]

AY UP CLAUS

[@shamanenrique]

I spg and I try to stay within radio range of a some lights and hopefully stay within view range of a couple heavies or tidies

[@treadheadpete4770]

Propel!

[@billwalker9509]

There are few maps where you don't have to move. Most you do.

[@vonsmutt4254]

1 m is 3 ft 3 and 3/8 in

[@the_answer_is279e5]

I have to traverse the maps in my FV304 (Baby Burt), but even with the Object 261 I will normally run around quite a lot. A0 on the second map is one of my favourite locations.

[@josephdavidson323]

I usually move when playing SPG to counter arty and what else do I have to do for 30secs or so. I tend to stick to my general area though. In my Obj261 I have turbo and it scoots when I need to

[@thomasfeiller2207]

Clause is a closet SPG player. That's why he's been showing more SPG vids. He doesn't want us to know he's gone to the dark side.

[@rwarrich]

Only have 2 spgs but been counterbatteried enough times that after each shot I move just enough not to get hit. I also move to get the better angle for a shot or if in my low tier, to get within range lol. As for those 2 hits on the moving target, it is called kentucky windage and lucky rng, experience lets you sort of guestimate how someone moves.

[@Bowler-mf1sz]

Yes, I do play sag's and i try to move after EVERY Shot.

[@brealistic3542]

The e1 arty isn't easy to play well. It can't relocate easily and isn't very maneuverable. Long reload time.

[@gbwomble1570]

I move to where its safest to shot never stay still

[@danpope106]

I hope you're having a fantastic day Mr Kellerman

[@Interdector]

Some maps let you move, on some small ones and city ones were you can be spotted in no time move can be a risky bet.

[@joecog8949]

I'm confused. I did the comparison of the GW E 100 and the E 100. The GW lost 43t, cost the same, repairs cost more and is not very quick. Did they put a lesser engine in it?

[@johnnynielsen3006]

Move while reloading... And best advise of the day: Don't buy expensive equipment or consumables... Saves money...

[@davidfink5099]

I play quite a bit of artillery... I move a lot, after each shot as minimum to avoid counter battery since the introduction of the quite visible tracer tails... As for strategic movement for better angles or to support my teammates... it depends on the map and matchup. if we are on a corridor map with lots of heavies, I set up in a good position to support the main fight and move around locally to avoid the incoming shells... if we are on a wide open map with lots of lights and mediums then off we go moving as the fight progresses. With the artillery nerf I unloaded the german tier 8 thru 10, just to slow and inaccurate... but that GW Panther is sweet! I run a turbo charger to make it a bit quicker and it is deadly accurate... helps with a 5 skill crew to boot... yes I play artillery...

[@jeffknapp7094]

Got a couple of SOGs and play thjem evey once ad a while for giggles. I move a little after every shot to avoid being counter batteried

[@robbyrocksoo]

While you were right in the second game that if he moved he would have a better angle on a couple of enemies, but you have to think about the other enemies, and other potential shots as the game progresses. I think that he wasn't too bad where he was because he could still hit shots down some of the corridors in the city. If he moved he would lose those angles.

[@knbkbt]

I mainly play SPG and move often during reload.

[@vernonbice732]

Yes, it is good to change positions when you need to. But, there are many games where there are so many targets it doesn't matter. Then there are games where some fast light tanks sneaks in and kills before you get a second shot anyway :) All depends on the SPG. The US ones are fast enough to move around a lot. With the M44 it reloads fast enough you don't have much time between shots. If you move then you might not get to make the next shot. Remember that moving means you still have to aim again, which also takes a while in SPG's. The US higher tier are slower loading so moving is 'easier'. FWIW, the M44 is fast enough to be a 'face blaster' in some urban terrain. Find a lone enemy with half hit points gone, run in and smack them. Then run like hell :) The FV304 is the ultimate in close support. Moves faster than many mediums. Course it has to move fast cause the range is only 500m and it is a small gun, so death by a thousand cuts :) The higher tier Russian SPG's are pigs, and the reload is really slow. Also big as a house so anytime you move it makes a big target. I still use my SU14, lower tier with a huge gun, but, it stays in one place most of the game.

[@alanfindlay3233]

Soothing Friday commentary. Up vote.

[@realkekec4028]

SPG-self parked gun :)

[@richardstewart6900]

Someone doesn't play SPGs! 🙂

[@chuck6458]

I am an SPG player. Yes, I move around quite a bit when reloading. Panther is bad because it is slow, but French is also bad because of aim time. You don't have as much time to move with some SPGs as you think. And yeah neither of these players are very great at playing SPGs, IMO.

[@Mali8029]

I propel myself to find a better angle through the buildings but because I am a muppet I end up behind an even bigger building, so there is that

[@joel14roy]

i do play spg, not a lot, but the fv304 is a blast of a bug :P moving is necessary with this arty.

[@StefanGalia]

Every day is SPG day for me!

[@tomhaser8696]

depends on what your team does

[@ambientlight3876]

Hmm.. maybe I need to play more arty...

[@ivang97997]

I play SPG, and I move around to get good shots and "save" place to hide, because often time one side of the allies is dead, well, you have to move, right?

[@Vic-Bee]

Claus, you seem perplexed by the accuracy of some arties. The LeFH is still playable, and with a 4 sec reload, it's great to anticipate a tank's direction and 1 shoot it at full speed

[@garrybrough72]

Interesting then Claus. While I'm working on the second mark of excellence on a few of my SPGs I've noticed that many times when I've stunned enemy in perfectly shootable positions no one follows up with damage to feed my stun bonus. Could this be tactical or just coincidence? In any case, I've started adding some high damage no stun ammo to boost my damage total which sometimes work ok.

[@megarouge61]

I play them and move almost after every shot while reloading

[@clintonturner5545]

I got a new red and black leaf blower yesterday.

[@Smallbore40X]

I play a lot of arty, especially when the match making sucks. I mostly play T9 and T10 mobile SPG's and I move around a lot, including after every shot. I carry the large repair and first aid kits and auto fire extinguisher mostly for counter battery protection. The aiming mechanics have been manipulated by WOT for the worse. If I am not fully aimed the round lands the farthest away from what I am aiming at in the aim circle. On slopes the round lands either at the front or rear of the aim circle, whichever is the farthest away from what I am aiming at. All that being said I don't play WOT that much anymore, only enough to do the 3 daily missions (today 2 games). The problems with the game, match making, power creep and other issues make it not worth spending a lot of time on. It's supposed to be a form of entertainment not a source of frustration. I will however continue to watch Claus's every day, I look forward to the stimulating conversation and topics.

[@supertjibbe]

scout spots a mauss ....arty was pre aimed and stunned him for 13 seconds ...and then the FV 4005 blows him up with a ammorack ..they all three share the xp for 1 killed muass ..lol

[@shantheman2004]

Always move after a shot. You'll rarely get countered or blind shot.

[@MrMotionmac]

I play a lot of SPG's and at higher tiers (especially if there is more than 1 arty) you have to move because the players know where they are arty safe. My favorite SPG is the tier 9 French arty (BC-155-?) because of the rotating gun. Yeah, the tier 10 has one too, but it's a tier 9 gun and sucks.

[@plektosgaming]

Statistically, SPGs do less damage per tier than a normal tank. There are a few exceptions, like the couple of premium SPGs, but getting into the top 3 or even top 5 in a game is fairly uncommon. While any muppet can run around in an IS-7 and get 2K damage and at least one kill. As such, playing a SPG actually is a net loss in terms of firepower for your team and makes it more likely that the game ends quickly.

[@Vic-Bee]

Some SPGs hit on the concave side of the oval (it's never a circle) while others hit on the convex side. Regardless, arties have become notoriously inaccurate after so many nerfs. I sold all arties that take more than 30 sec to reload, except for the French T10 autoloader, because between the loading time and lack of accuracy you're lucky getting 2k dmg in a battle. The only ones I have left are the LeFH, the 261 and the French autoloader.

[@dottorekaoz8679]

Yes, I propell - to avoid counterbattery

[@r.h.7633]

Thank youuuuu

[@kevintamas7164]

Double Dip? Didn't we learn from Timmy that Double Dip is forbidden?

[@randystiles230]

Yes always move!!

[@wretchedexcess1654]

I like to move it ,move it!

[@Billy-the-Kid]

WoT should restore SPG to the original power.

[@josephmarsh7647]

like to move

[@SpybotAF1]

I move after ever shot. I have heard counter battery is less likely on the EU server than it is on NA.

[@acc5852]

Yes, you have to move in Tier 6 and higher.

[@Def_01_RG]

I move after eatch shot. 😊

[@needaman66]

How Do You get the wn8 on the end plate like that? I move around, depends on aim time

[@domberry1502]

The XVM mod, and perhaps part of Aslain's modpack. Both downloadable for free and developer-accepted extra software for the game. Maybe search for the option and read about how to track it down in the modpack.

[@needaman66]

@@domberry1502 so everyone that Claus features have mods? Hard to believe

[@domberry1502]

@@needaman66 Claus might not use them for his videos but some KZbinrs do and some players do. If one of my videos were to be featured, it may show mods. I don't know how it works.

[@needaman66]

@@domberry1502 then why are you answering?

[@domberry1502]

@@needaman66 I can tell you what I know, admittedly not much, and maybe another commenter will explain more.

[@richardmills8766]

Bob Dylan from Blonde on Blonde

[@lesvosloo5797]

Doing good. Thanks for asking.😊

[@kenmayo6906]

Great video 😎👍