Spider-Man 4 Citicorp Battle Animatic 2009 (FOUND MEDIA)

[@KlonoaPrime]

Fun fact: City by Hollywood Undead was originally written for Spider-Man 4 scenefordummies.com/p/shady-jeff-interview-p3/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4K9iWOXothrmsU

[@spongenick]

I did lol

[@EPH_00]

You didn't "won" anything. Spider-Man Video Archive didn't deleted because of you. He deleted it because David E. Duncan asked him to do so due to legal stuff with Sony. You should do the same

[@KlonoaPrime]

@@EPH_00 No

[@EPH_00]

@@KlonoaPrime Okay. Whatever xD Thanks anyway for discovering this animatic! Just be careful with copyright and that stuff...

[@Elvusmiw]

What do you have against Sam raimi? It's avi arad's fault

[@thanossnaper8917]

Old man with mechanical wings was gonna be more brutal than the damn symbiote....

[@poppapalpatine7659]

The Symbiote wanted it's perfect host to believe that it needed him

[@SubToBoogieDoodie]

You know vulture, he heckin scary boi.

[@Lama-fe3gv]

He do be cuttin doe

[@goldenbro439]

imagine how brutal of a fight would be if peter still had the black suit fighting the vulture

[@scum0320]

Honestly! He looked so crazy and violent!

[@anthonydemeo8675]

When Sam Rami said he wanted this movie to be the best and vulture the brutalist...... I was not expecting this....

[@fighterxofficialYT]

Its sad how the movie never got to be alive

[@bullymaguire513]

1:34 Guys did you noticed? Insomniac games was definetly inspired by this moment for the making of the final battle in spiderman ps4. Peter gets stabbed on his left shoulder while standing on the wall. Maybe they had access to the script.

[@DSavelev792]

@@bullymaguire513 since Sony Pictures and Gaming Subdivision are under one roof it's possible

[@rickded2860]

Then you must be stupid

[@joeshlong9614]

@@bullymaguire513 Spider-Man sticks on walls, vulture has stabby wings Most likely a coincidence

[@diego4371]

I love the fact that Tobey's suit always gets ripped in battle

[@oliverwechsler2137]

To show emotion cuz the eyes didn’t used to move

[@lmaoded1550]

Every fucking single time

[@bloxidy8752]

It’s to avoid CGI

[@chadwickdavis8529]

Nah its always gonna get ripped in every big battle I just hat that the mask gets ripped.

[@pizzatime4204]

I hate how the mask gets ripped

[@quirmple]

Spider-Man movie: *is about to end* His suit: "I have decided I want to die"

[@ryanhutchinson4467]

Yeah, pretty much! Lol! As cliché as it may be, I always enjoy the dramatic moments when Spider-Man is hurt and his suit is torn up.

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

@@ryanhutchinson4467 I love it when the suits rips. It shows that at the end of the day Peter is just an average guy that so happens to have powers

[@ryanhutchinson4467]

@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 Yeah I totally agree. Spider-Man is a superhero, but he’s not invincible.

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

@@ryanhutchinson4467 Spider man and Superman are ironically the most human heroes around

[@ryanhutchinson4467]

@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 I agree with you on Superman being ironic, but Stan Lee always intended to write Spider-Man (more specifically Peter Parker) as an Everyman character. In Superman’s case I think it came about later when the writers realized that he didn’t have much personality. In the early Superman comics, he barely had any character at all. People just liked it because they were thrilled by all the incredible powers he had. But when that wore off, they realized that he’s essentially a god and is pretty hard to relate to. So to fix that, they made him more grounded, flawed, and in turn, human.

[@EvilGregProductions]

I’m imagining every grunt and cry from Toby and John.

[@donjefe409]

John?

[@lorddorito4307]

@@donjefe409 John Malkovich was going to be the Vulture.

[@donjefe409]

@@lorddorito4307 oh ok 👍

[@Saram_Waqas]

Umm no Ben Kingsley was supposed to be Vulture. I think John was the second choice.

[@JSBaseballFan7512]

@@Saram_Waqas I think Kingsley was targeted for Spidey 3 before Venom was shoehorned in and they wanted to do a sandman vulture thing but Malkovich was fully on board as Vulture for Spidey 4.

[@Aishylikeschocolate]

Can't we appreciate this guy for partially fulfilling our childhood dream of watching Spider-Man 4.

[@JordanWheeler1999]

Remove "can't we apreachate" you sound like a damn fool when you say it like that.

[@Shanec0716]

@@JordanWheeler1999 I don't see a problem with it

[@Ostermond]

We sure can. Storyboard animatics sure do a lot, and the folks behind them don’t get nearly enough credit.

[@NaughtiusMaximmus]

@@JordanWheeler1999 Remove your entire comment, you sounded like a damn fool when you commented it

[@JordanWheeler1999]

@@NaughtiusMaximmus "i missed the part where that's my problem"

[@polskillz]

This makes it even more sad that Spider Man 4 got cancelled

[@vivashvanbhushan3422]

This is practically spider man homecoming

[@Roberto-to1li]

@@vivashvanbhushan3422 not even in the slightest! Spider-Man homecoming made the vulture just a dude who sells stuff and he didn’t even fight Peter in the “final battle” they just kind of yelled at each other

[@Shalashaska-x5x]

Not really, apparently the script for it sucked, that’s why it was cancelled

[@at-rexontheinternet1388]

Ur pfp makes me sad

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@vivashvanbhushan3422 no

[@IK-yb5rn]

I love how Vulture briefly stopped when he took off Peter’s mask, then his bloodlust became even more sinister

[@nettlesomenpc889]

To me it kinda came off as a "Oh I am gonna love doing this EVEN MORE NOW PARKER!" moment Like Peter did something to Vulture both as Spiderman and Peter Parker that made him absolutely bloodthirsty like we see here

[@zacharyriley4561]

@@nettlesomenpc889 If I'm correct, Vulture was Mary Jane's dad.

[@santiagofaria6569]

@@zacharyriley4561 he was felicia hardy's (black cat) dad

[@Xithin87]

@@santiagofaria6569 his name was Adrian hardy or Walter hardy as vulture? Or black cat name was different?

[@santiagofaria6569]

@@Xithin87 I think they were gonna change felicia's name. Not sure on that though

[@HickmeisterFilms]

This could have been as good as the Doc Ock train fight, but we'll never get to see it happen :(

[@mechawulf6761]

Can totally reimagine the whole thing with the sound effects and fast-paced movements from the train fight. One of the best fight scenes in movie.

[@cameronhuff5170]

And who knows how many incredible YTPs you could have made with this film.

[@MeltedToast84]

Never say never! With Multiverse of Madness being directed by Sam Raimi himself, you never know! Kevin Feigie also said it was interconnected with The new Spiderman: No Way Home! The chances are good!

[@bileyigr]

@@MeltedToast84 and now with the final episode of Loki the multiverse is finally here

[@ProjectSparkTM]

Spider-Man 4 reanimated time?

[@HandintheBoxInc]

Its funny how even Sam Rami's animatic is still more brutal and visceral than many modern MCU movies

[@krtlkid]

mcu spiderman movies are mostly cgi while the raimi and webb are real with some cgi but not fully. Thats what I loved about those movies is the practicality of it and the cinematography from the fight scenes to the swinging just beautifully shot.

[@HandintheBoxInc]

@@krtlkid Agreed, practicality does make a difference in the feel of an action scene

[@dir-gk]

Man we gotta see this live action.

[@joshuacrisanto7419]

@@krtlkidWebb's Spider-Man movies also had a lot of full CGI scenes, it just wasn't as noticeable as MCU Spider-Man bcos it was extremely polished. Raimi Spider-Man also has full on CGI scenes but mostly on scenes like web swinging, villains flying, and huge battles in the city or around buildings.

[@veg411]

Old good

[@SpiderElm]

this might be obvious to most of you but Ive always noticed a trend in raimi spiderverse and its that spiderman's villains are never actually killed by spiderman they all die due to circumstances they gave birth to, 1) goblin tries to backstab, gets killed 2) doc dies a hero trying to undo his project 3) eddie dies trying to get the suit, new goblin dies a hero but again, by his own glider 4) vulture stabbed by his own wing

[@TheShape45]

Spider man 3 actual ending is by eddie being consumed by the symbiote and being dead the whole time,venom would vomit his host skeleton originally

[@Vengeance.2099]

Sand man is the only person who survived

[@SpiderElm]

@@Vengeance.2099 yeah sandman is the only exception, my theory is that it happened because raimi just wanted to show desperation, regret and forgiveness and I think Flint Marco was actually very well executed

[@anonymousracer6874]

@@TheShape45 that would've scared the shit out of me

[@forgedtofight]

Goblin tries to backstab, gets frontstabbed

[@alainc.5554]

Damn, Peter was getting his ass kicked the entire fight and all it took was one kick to completely level the playing field. Just goes to show how strong Spider-Man can be when his life is genuinely threatened.

[@Breidablik06]

Like how when Doc Oc was in his body and punched Scorpion’s jaw clean off

[@artemis1993]

Not even that - Spidey just got extremely lucky Vulture landed on a sharp metal. If it wasn't for that, Spider-Man would have died 100%

[@nostalgicplayer115]

@@artemis1993 What are you talking about he wouldve died. Stop making spidey a weak bitch.

[@artemis1993]

@@nostalgicplayer115 Spidey isn't a bitch, but he isn't invincible. But i guess you must love Mary Sues, right???

[@Facade953]

Peter would have been holding back because of Adrian Tooms's old age.

[@s4m_1223]

I wish they would release this in a comic book format like how they are continuing Tim Burton’s Batman and Christopher Reeve’s Superman in a comic book recently.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

Me too, i wish the same thing for The Amazing Spider-Man 3 script!

[@makocaballerohijodelbanqui6435]

wow imagine that...

[@Kaisar011]

@@makocaballerohijodelbanqui6435 Because it's licensing issue, thats the problem. They need Sony permission to do that.

[@PriestlyBlock67]

No, without live action, tobey and raimi, its simply not spiderman 4

[@abdullayaser700]

It's not canon

[@VincentStevenStudio]

Looks like Vulture was going to be another sympathetic villain that happened to know Peter and dies by his own hand. And he probably kidnaps Mary Jane AGAIN. Also I like the Raimi films as much as the next guy but the reason Raimi left the 4th project was because he was unhappy with the script. Which means It would have sucked. If Raimi believed it would've sucked then I believe him. It's better that way. Good on him for keeping his integrity.

[@mimo-bine]

The kidnapping Mary Jane part got me lol

[@dhilipans5412]

@@mimo-bine and add a kristen dunst scream

[@vaderkurt7848]

It doesnt look like mj got kidnapped this time.

[@artsfan5683]

Actually raimi left because 1. He knew they were already planning a reboot 2. He wanted 4 to be INCREDIBLE because he felt so bad about 3, for all we know the script could've been fine. But raimi didn't want fine, he wanted something incredible. Still, glad he chose what he felt best with.

[@artsfan5683]

@Yagami Eren Yep, Sam Raimi didn't like the character or understand the appeal in Venom.

[@Mark---W]

Dang those glass shards stuck in Peter's body.....

[@CRWize-xs5og]

That and the razor blades vulture shot out at him

[@s-qu7kx]

Stings doesn't it?

[@Tarika916]

I’m questioning how he’s gonna hide those injuries from Aunt May the most

[@voltage4176]

That fact that this Exists just makes me happy, maybe someday this will become a reality

[@camerondalton1495]

This is a great and brutal scene. Honestly, if they were to do a Spider-Man 4 I would love to see it. However, Vulture would have to be a side character. After all, Tobey has gotten older so the same story couldn't really work. In fact, many of the actors are a lot older now. So it would have to either be animated or a new story. Perhaps a mix of Kraven's Last Hunt and Renew Your Vows. Spider-Man: Blue could also serve as inspiration as in that story Kraven brings together various animal-themed villains to test/weaken Spider-Man. It could be like a Knightfall situation.

[@Oblock550]

Sameee i hope he releases the other animatics cause i want to see more so baddd

[@stohg_9010]

@@camerondalton1495 Tobey could be de-aged with CGI

[@camerondalton1495]

@@stohg_9010 True, but for a whole movie? That sort of technology is really expensive.

[@camerondalton1495]

@@Oblock550 Same. The fight scene with the vulture in the suit and the eviction scene come to mind.

[@pedzad9528]

Vulture damaged Spiderman more than fucking Venom 🤣

[@RandomizationShow]

Tru but Venom got his ass killed because he played with his prey, Vulture on the other hand knows how to fight like a predator. He is probably faster and has a better arsenal than the Goblin had, but he has inferior strength. He probably wasn't holding back due to that so it explains his brutality, plus I'm pretty sure Spiderman got involved with his daughter in this movie so RIP

[@Pointed_expression]

Venom stomps vulture anyday although raimi venom sucks

[@primalvelocity3811]

@@RandomizationShow You saying that Vulture is probably faster than Venom made my day lmao

[@RandomizationShow]

@@primalvelocity3811 well that's not what I said lmao

[@Saint0999]

@@RandomizationShow omg shut up lmaooo

[@generalbanana1885]

Another reminder, this movie was supposed to be in 3D, hence why Sam Raimi REALLY wanted a lot of aerial battles. I'm sure if this movie got released it would've been one of the only Non-Avatar films to have been worth seeing in 3D.

[@jjs.5195]

I could hear toby’s scream when he gets cut in the chest and the suit tears LMFAO

[@samparker7627]

1:18 New power of Spidey : restore his mask clean

[@arjunshukla985]

ya i also saw that

[@ryanhutchinson4467]

Yeah, I noticed that too. Since these were just early storyboards and they probably had multiple people drawing them simultaneously, that could be attributed to a simple miscommunication between the artists.

[@legodude616official]

1:12 Sam Raimi’s iconic jump scare scene from like every movie he directs (: it wouldn’t the same without them

[@malumello17]

I love his vision as a director.

[@CrystalLaser]

I like how you can tell exactly what’s going on without even any dialogue. Like you can tell Vulture knew Peter before this fight and then realized he was Spider-Man but didn’t care at that point.

[@malumello17]

It seems he was the father of MJ and thats why she looks so horrified as he falls. Seems Sony stole this idea making Vulture be the father of Liz in Homecoming.

[@CrystalLaser]

@@malumello17 That’s an interesting take, I wonder how this all would have played out in the original trilogy. Not sure how tragic the story would have been considering we heard how abusive he was throughout the trilogy lol.

[@KeyrowZB]

i know this is a year old comment thread but read the description

[@LiMe251]

He was gonna be Black​ Cat's father. @@malumello17

[@StNylo]

imagine we see this as a flashback scene in spider-man no way home

[@ObitoUchiha-ee3oi]

Yes or as the opening scene for it

[@megaavonaco9954]

@@ObitoUchiha-ee3oi I think the opening scene will be doc ock from Spider-Man 2 going to the mcu.

[@shaktivelrajan6725]

@@megaavonaco9954 yes! I wonder if it'll be like how the Loki thing works where they have 5 minutes of recap/lore before the intro. One for doc ock, one for Tobey and so on.

[@TheCrescentNova]

@@shaktivelrajan6725 Ooo yee, or something like the 'All right, let's do this one last time' scenes like they did in Spider-verse, except most likely with less comedy lol

[@Slasher_X420]

The opening scene will be Tom Holland lol. Then Tobey and Andrew.

[@sng3939]

In an alternate universe, this movie exists.

[@dr.cocacola]

I wanna travel there

[@JWWE7903]

I’d like to think that too

[@mr.metamovies2419]

That does it! #ReleaseSpiderMan4 They can't stop us all!

[@kylebooface6359]

Ya know, if it weren’t for Sony demanding Venom be thrown into Spider-Man 3, this could’ve come to fruition… shame really, i think i would’ve loved this Vulture more than the MCU version

[@Asconisti]

@@chrikke tobey had an injury before Spider-Man 2. Spider-Man 4 was cancelled because Raimi gave up

[@ultimatecontagion]

Seriously, fuck Avi Arad for pushing Raimi into putting Venom in 3. I would have loved to see his original plans for SM3.

[@StarBoyMyio]

It should’ve been just venom.

[@kylebooface6359]

@@StarBoyMyio you would keep all the scenes with Cringy Emo parker (even the street dance) instead of more heartfelt scenes with Sandman and his Daughter, allowing us to sympathise with him and also have more scenes of Harry as the New Goblin? You make me sick.

[@kinghenrybeauclerc9337]

Well Sam Raimi wanted Peter to fight both Sandman and the Vulture in Spider-Man 3. But Sony asked Raimi to add Venom and the Symbiote in it. So Raimi replaced the Vulture with Venom and eventually postponed the Vulture's apparition whom he had wanted to appear in Spider-Man 4. If Sony hadn't been so greedy by forcing Raimi to set Venom, we would have seen the Vulture in Spider-Man 3.

[@ChrisHillmon]

Man... This Vulture makes the one from Homecoming look like a 2D kids cartoon, this would've been epic...

[@shinndig1293]

Why was this so much better than the climax to Homecoming???

[@kdscool1536]

Because it's not generic MCU shit and because Sam Raimi was going to direct it?

[@skyto9233]

This was shit

[@jeremygonzalez6990]

@@skyto9233 bruh this fight was much more brutal and they moved around more while the vulture in homecoming never threw a punch. I love Michael keaton and thought his performance was great but he should've had more action.

[@Sorrelhas]

It really wasn't

[@folo7595]

Ikr so much so much better like damn

[@notaverypopularchannel4878]

1:18 I can imagine this moment having some of the signature Sam Raimi horror suspense present on all the Raimi SpiderMan movies (Osborne resuscitating in the chamber, Goblin Flashbacks, Goblin in the burning building, Doc Ock hospital scene, Doc Ock surprise attacks Harry, Venom Taxi Cab scene, Venom surprise attacks SpiderMan)

[@raindroppeter8983]

*This is probably the closest we will ever get to Spider-Man 4. Very interesting to see what Sam had in mind!*

[@adrian77538]

He wanted to kill poor spidey 😢, like it's getting more and more complicated for him..

[@doomfry3163]

Someone needs to actually make a live action fan made scene based around this alone. This would be epic and brutal to watch!

[@michaelisland2047]

High Mountain Studios is making a whole fan film for Spider-Man 4, and the director said this fight scene would be in the film!

[@mikeslavik1669]

@@michaelisland2047 when will it be released?

[@luketory4684]

When will it be released

[@3Guys1Video]

@@michaelisland2047 👀

[@michaelisland2047]

@@mikeslavik1669 They're not certain yet, but they anticipate that it'll be released sometime in 2022.

[@heyya3207]

One kick nearly killed him, shows how much Tobey's spiderman holds back when it comes to his villains

[@ryanhutchinson4467]

I see your point, but I don’t think it was the kick that did it. If you watch carefully you can see Vulture get impaled through the ribs when he lands on the lower platform. That’s why he has blood on his hands.

[@ThorDMaster]

Nah, i don't think he ever held back, Dr Octopus was just inexplicably durable for an unenhanced human being

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

@@ThorDMaster Spider-Man usually holds back a ton as to not kill his foes and whatnot. He will only kill if it’s the very last resort or option left at all. For instance, the only reason Spider-Man can’t lift Thor’s hammer, Mjolnir, is because he is unwilling to kill if necessary unless in the most dire of circumstances.

[@meunomeelucas8489]

I mean in the comics Doc Ock said that during his first fight with Spider-Man one of Peter's punches fucking damaged his brain, which really makes me wonder how Alfred Molina's Doc Ock wasn't knocked out after receiving the first punch, either Tobey is considerably weaker than 616 Spider-Man or he is way better at holding back than him.

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

@@meunomeelucas8489 I mean, Tobi’s Spider-Man is able to stop a train in 40 seconds so he isn’t too weak, it just might be that he holds back a lot .

[@SoniaSpectrum]

Okay but it's anyone going to talk about just how GOOD the emotion drawn in is???

[@mcan-piano4718]

Yes because I cant find emotions in new Tom Spiderman movies (I literally stopped watching new meaningless hero movies made just for money without careful storyline planning or full of unnecessary scenes to complete 2 hours... ), so I like this dark serious Raimi things with nice soundtrack that is iconic and dramatic.

[@SoniaSpectrum]

@@mcan-piano4718 IKR it's just so corny and dry...

[@mcan-piano4718]

@@SoniaSpectrum Yessss exactly, I hate the new ones, they are like teenage comedy or parody or fanmade things that amateurs would do.

[@SoniaSpectrum]

@@mcan-piano4718 yah it's like good storytelling decided to die and be replaced by humor

[@joeda900]

@Julian R The writing isn't even that bad, just it doesn't follow core story of Spider-Man. Otherwise I believe it's a pretty good and fun movie

[@Bigshart410]

I've never seen such a fight like that, it's like Sam Raimi want us to feel the vulnerability of Spider-Man and make us believe that he might die in the film, Vulture is so fucking violent in this 4th installment.

[@DeltaCharlieHipHop]

This battle is like something out of an R-rated movie and really showcases how Sam specializes in the horror genera. This scene makes Vulture look like the most absolutely terrifying villian Spiderman has ever faced! Dragging him through the glass, actually stabbing him, and the jump scare of him swooping up the edge like that! This is a real villian! Just seeing this rough sketch actually makes me admire this version of Vulture more than the version we saw in Homecoming (not saying the Homecoming version was bad). This guy feels like an even bigger threat than Doc Ock, Venom, and even Goblin! And believe me, I love those three! (Especially Green Goblin) Damn I wish they made this movie! Or I at least wish I could see this fight in live action! This is just incredible!!!

[@theunbeatable6598]

I can only imagine how awesome this would be in cinematic fashion

[@Sovereign754]

The glass budget would have been through the roof!

[@di4mgaming115]

:/

[@Just4Taco]

It makes me sad that we didn’t get to see this movie 😢

[@luismaldonado4989]

This alone is better than anything relating to MCU Spider-Man.

[@amarigamer1192]

Yeah

[@donnachapman3537]

I can imagine the dialogue 1:28 Vulture: I COULD’VE SAVED HER!! 1:54 Vulture: P-Parker?!

[@adrian77538]

Save who ?

[@donnachapman3537]

@@adrian77538his wife.

[@adrian77538]

@@donnachapman3537 if you read all the spider-man 4 script, can u tell where I can find it , I'm kinda lost

[@bullymaguire513]

1:34 insomniac games was definetly inspired by this moment for the making of the final battle in spiderman ps4. Peter gets stabbed on his left shoulder while standing on the wall.

[@Vikoski10]

Thanks for the spoiler 😞

[@bullymaguire513]

@@Vikoski10 The game is 3 years old. And i didn't spoil anithing. I just said that he got stabbed, i didn't say who stabbed him or where he got stabbed. I mean, he gets stabbed in almost every movie, so that's not even a big spoiler, if that's a spoiler

[@jdarker7138]

@@Vikoski10 oh Button it you wet flannel. If you wanna cry about something as insignificant as spiderman getting stabbed (which happens almost all the time in some form regardless which media its in) then I'll spoil the whole ass game for you, Miles morales and any other bit of spiderman/ mcu/ superhero media you like if you're gonna act like that over something as minor as that.

[@sloshedAF]

@@Vikoski10 how have you not heard this? The game is literally 3 years old at this point.

[@megaavonaco9954]

@@Vikoski10 a spoiler for a game that’s old to the point that it has its own spinoff game?

[@maicon.2955]

"I want to fix my mistakes i made with Spider-Man 3 and do the best Spider-Man film of the saga" Aparently the way Sam Raimi found for fix the mistakes is GORE, bro Vulture just stabbed Peter with his feather, DANG!

[@agenterojoloquendo9213]

wow, we always knew that Sam Raimi wasn't afraid to show a level of violence that made us feel like the protagonist was in danger. But this was a new level. It is simply unbelievable. I hope they don't delete your video

[@maximumrebo2030]

I wanna see some stuff like this again

[@Ys0tox1c]

which is good the hero isn’t always perfect

[@agenterojoloquendo9213]

Currently there are very few movies in which I felt that adrenaline again

[@Lama-fe3gv]

Yeah it's amazing!

[@davidr7743]

It’s fanmade some of the story boards are real but this is fake

[@alio6051]

Many people don't realize that the vulture was planned to be the villain long before Raimi planned spiderman 4. Before Sony Interfered, in 2005, Sam raimi had 2 villains in mind for spiderman 3: the vulture and sandman. The story was about vulture and sandman teaming up to escape prison to get their revenge on Spiderman. Spiderman would offer a truce to vulture who would refuse and would end up getting killed in their fight in the final battle. The film also would've had the forgiveness theme similar t the final cut of Spiderman 3. Apparently all that didn't happen and Raimi wanted to use vulture in spiderman 4 but that didn't happen either because of Sony and Avi Arad.

[@mr.metamovies2419]

That does it! #ReleaseSpiderMan4 They can't stop us all!

[@peepsg]

Wait what about New Goblin?

[@RagingBlazeBloodBaka]

@@peepsg he was gonna be neutral like in between bad and good

[@peepsg]

@@RagingBlazeBloodBaka ahh okay then, but was he suppose die like in the final version or not?

[@eboishea4980]

I read that somewhere I’m going to send the link to it

[@gamerman9548]

This would've been the second time Tobey Maguire gets stabbed before SpiderMan No Way Home came out.

[@averagejoe2402]

I don't know why, but seeing this specific version of Spider-Man in this situation is heart pounding. He's the only SuperHERO in this universe. No X-Men, no Avengers, noone else. So if he dies... that's no good.

[@TheWeb-Slinger]

Well in spiderman 2 apparently doctor strange exists...

[@cristinofuentes7275]

And the punisher is in a quick 2 second scene in Spider-Man 2

[@yeahx32p69]

@@cristinofuentes7275 clip

[@megaavonaco9954]

Hulk, reed richards, and Matt Murdock exist in this universe. They are mentioned in the novelization versions of the movie.

[@averagejoe2402]

Where can I find the novelizations? They seem to add layers to this universe.

[@pstuddy]

damn even seeing it in black and white sketches, this sht was extremely intense and brutal af. all those broken glass shards stuck to his body and severe cuts all over him, imagine all the blood! imagine a live action version of this with color and everything! might be very difficult and disturbing to watch. just WOW

[@ILikeSoda229]

The Vulture falling to his death has to be a legitimately horrifying concept

[@kzr4858]

I still remember waiting for Spider man 4 when I was a kid. Really bummed that never happened.

[@maxwellgates2202]

I learned that villains like the Shocker and the Rhino would have appeared in the opening of this movie, in a montage where Spidey takes down some of his famous foes, shame it never happened.

[@billymanziel5666]

I also read that mysterio played by Bruce Campbell was in that montage, would have been so cool

[@gamerboy-pt7nw]

He would've also taken down puma and the prowler.

[@SomethingNowhereMan]

Well... as of recently I discovered that Shocker was in Spider-Man 3. He was literally behind J. Jonah Jameson during the final battle between Spider-Man & New Goblin against Venom & Sandman. I watch all of these movies 1000 times and never had I caught that until now!

[@russiangravy3870]

I’m just now realizing that someone dies in every one of these Spider-Man movies - usually the villain. Took me until the fourth one to realize, but it’s true.

[@JimmyJimJims]

@@SalVWasTaken they all know

[@liamfitzgerald7217]

That's one of the reasons why I'm actually kind of glad we didn't get The Lizard for the 3rd one. Otherwise it would've been 'Spider-Man: The Dead Mentor trilogy' or something like that.

[@Burstify]

@@SalVWasTaken Knew*

[@joaopires3917]

You saw the fourth movie?

[@Fatalcharmanimations]

@@joaopires3917 umm he didn't he saw this use your brain

[@SOB98]

I liked what Homecoming did with the Vulture. Managed to make him intimidating and likeable.

[@jakewondo]

If this movie was real, I can imagine critics calling it the best Spider-Man film

[@krtlkid]

I remember when after spiderman 3 was released there was talks about a 4th one with carnage starring jim carrey. Fast forward to 2017 as the villain for spiderman 4 was in homecoming and the possible carnage became the one in venom 2, so in a way they both happened just not how we wanted.

[@johnned2114]

The script was really bad tho

[@The-A-Train24]

@@johnned2114 what was the script

[@parkerpeter4580]

Then:my back,MY BACK Now:my arm,MY ARM

[@bradygoodall9379]

SPIDER-MAN 4 DIRECTOR: Sam Raimi SCREENPLAY: Gary Ross PRODUCER: Laura Ziskin Avi Arad Grant Curtis Todd Black EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Stan Lee Kevin Feige Joseph M. Caracciolo Steve Tisch CASTS/STARRING: Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spider-Man Anne Hathaway as Felicia Hardy John Malkovich as Adrian Toomes/Vulture Rosemary Harris as Aunt May J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson Bruce Campbell as Quentin Beck/Mysterio Elya Baskin as Mr. Ditkovich Mageina Tovah as Ursula Ditkovich MUSIC: Danny Elfman STORYBOARDS: Jeff Henderson David Lowery ANIMATIC: David E. Duncan RELEASE DATE: May 6, 2011

[@aedes1957]

If only this could happen.

[@NoNamex1412]

Tbh this kinda looks like something that would be in spectacular spider man. Especially the artstyle

[@ahkafkhan4512]

Yeah ur right

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Agreed!

[@scum0320]

Sam Raimi had some level of violence in his movies and never shied away from that (I think every final battle where Tobey’s suit gets absolutely demolished is proof of that), but this final battle is on a whole other level. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an interpretation of Vulture being THAT violent!

[@spider-man8112]

The only one I can think of is noir Vulture, who is a cannibal.

[@scum0320]

@@spider-man8112 oh crap I remember that. Definitely didn’t want to tho

[@pbateman4124]

@@spider-man8112 I was immediately gonna mention that.

[@Night5225]

As a kid, Doc Ock killing the doctors use to scare the shit out of me.

[@scum0320]

@@Night5225 ohhhh yeah

[@iacovoskritz4896]

Yo this makes Homecoming's Vulture look like a cosplay attempt.

[@FivesCT-mn1is]

Homecomings vulture was badass, this just looks like another old fuck who's another generic Raimi villain, get over it, Raimi cancelled this movie cause he knew that it would be shit

[@oreothebunny1622]

@@FivesCT-mn1is Don't be toxic Holland fan boy

[@FivesCT-mn1is]

@@oreothebunny1622 Im not a Tom Holland fanboy, I like every spiderman movie in its own way, and I respect others opinions on the movies, it just annoys me when people are assholes to others for liking a movie, I see a lot of people just straight up hating on people cause they like homecoming and stuff.

[@CarlosMartinez-yt5ql]

@@FivesCT-mn1is seems hypocritical of you if you ask me, I know it’s just your opinion but the dude was just making a joke

[@FivesCT-mn1is]

@@CarlosMartinez-yt5ql Hard to tell whats a joke and whats Raimi fanboys complaining

[@Necr0Mancer666]

In an alternate dimension, crowds cheering to Spiderman 4 finale in theaters!

[@AllahHuAkbar-r8r]

That wouldn't be finale

[@manzithegamer2563]

This is spiderman homecoming but R-rated

[@3zar20]

The sharp glasses in his back was brutal.

[@mr.bluepants8059]

I wish the movie gets made in a comic book form

[@quinn1010]

1:42 damn it, that must have hurt

[@firionkaiser8291]

And Tobey Maguire might be getting his Spider-Man 4 movie now! Letsssss goooo!

[@Ay3shizzle]

What do you mean?

[@firionkaiser8291]

@@Ay3shizzle Exactly what I said. Although I'm hearing it might be animated which is a let down. But yeah it seems Tobey will getting a Spider-Man 4 film. Hopefully still using the fights from this deleted scene.

[@Ay3shizzle]

@@firionkaiser8291 it better not be animated

[@firionkaiser8291]

@@Ay3shizzle Agreed.

[@Mr.Coffee576]

This storyboard reminded me of why I loved Sam Raimi's movies. All of Tobey' fights are real, gritty and brutal. Which is missing in modern MCU movies.

[@bombaybabi7901]

A better fight scene than anything we've seen in Homecoming

[@rubeng370]

This was more violent than Homecoming version

[@themadtitan7603]

I just want to see Spider-Man 4 come to life one day whether through live-action or animation, but if doesn't... I'm more than grateful that we have this to keep coming back to, dreaming of what could've been.

[@baronvonpiano7625]

John Malkovich would've been a great Vulture.

[@TheIceCreamMan042302Centeno]

Now I know why Tobey said he's been stabbed before in Spider-Man No Way Home

[@lolwsp6481]

i mean he has actually been stabbed before, harry stabbed him during their fight

[@Facade953]

Given this and Eddie Brock's skeleton from the deleted Spider-Man 3 scenes, it's easy to see that Raimi wanted to take the franchise into a darker and more brutal direction but the kid friendly studio wouldn't let him.

[@EPH_00]

David E. Duncan, the one who upload it first on Vimeo, has deleted the animatic. Maybe because of legal reasons...

[@watchmangames2337]

WAIT WHAT

[@Lama-fe3gv]

😢

[@loosecannon4520]

I was way more engrossed watching this than I was at any point watching Homecoming, honestly. And this is a sketch.

[@itsanightmaresobeware7777]

Wrong

[@loosecannon4520]

@@itsanightmaresobeware7777 I mean you can say wrong if you want, but it doesn’t change the fact I was more entertained by this than Homecoming. Perhaps you weren’t. But I was. So, not wrong.

[@theodorelong9762]

Imagine part of this fight being the scene that introduces Toby’s Spider-Man in “Spiderman 3” before he gets sucked into a wormhole and into the MCU.

[@zaxcybits]

3:02 That part in the song always gets to me. Feels like this is the actual and real Spider-Man(respect the hyphen). This is why I believe Tobey and Sam Spider-Man is the only Spider-Man for me.

[@malumello17]

I feel you. So much heart and emotion. Something I can't get from other movies.

[@SlasherYT-kc3wg]

Wheres the music from?

[@mothradamoth728]

@@SlasherYT-kc3wg spider-man 2 I think

[@alfreddiogu1096]

Man I hope this movie gets revived. I would have love to have seen black cat, mysterio, shocker, and Vulture

[@320speed]

The greatest ever series. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man

[@RamenEditsz]

Better then what we got in homecoming.

[@SubToBoogieDoodie]

Agreed.

[@MultiFirelover]

MCU Spider-Mans character regressed right after civil war and the fight scenes are ass. I'm inclined to unfortunately agree

[@WillactTv]

I thought homecoming was great and I definitely agree with you! I think his vulture was less willing to go this far since Peter was a teenager. And he was more about getting money and providing for his family. This vulture had different intentions and motivations which will make him more aggressive and willing to kill. The Mcu makes their own adaptations to their movies

[@Lama-fe3gv]

@@WillactTv I agree with you. Homecoming was enjoyable to watch, just not comparable to the Sam Raimi films (IMO). I think the problem with spidey was more of the role model Iron Man was playing, considering that Peter had a better role model (Aka: Uncle Ben) who got omitted from the movie. And now that he's unfortunately gone, I think spidey 's gonna embrace his vigilante side, especially going into no way home

[@MultiFirelover]

@@Lama-fe3gv I just hope they do a good job. It's very obvious spider verse is happening though so I don't know how they will develop MCU Peters character other than doing spider verse plot. Otherwise they're just doing it cause it's cool

[@rozzell300k]

This is basically the same scenario the old game had so it does make sense

[@frankyg6583]

Can we appreciate the music! Layed out beautifully bringing the nostalgia alive

[@vulpixsmi]

Watch this feels like looking into a parellel universe.

[@user-wl3gn6rx1m]

I will pay billions to make this happen

[@Cruddzoy]

Watching this makes me sad that Spiderman 4 will never happen

[@Jose-se9pu]

Imagine if this is how Dr Strange 2 opens...

[@chethasgb1962]

Thank u Kolonaprime for making this video.❤️❤️

[@asadlovesasda]

The Doc Ock theme hear is AMAZING. Gives me goosebumps

[@UltimateSpiderPlush]

This video makes me so happy because it reminds me of all the time i spent watching fake Spider-Man 4 trailers

[@AkiroZenshin25]

SPOILERS In No Way Home, Tobey's Spider-Man gets stabbed by Green Goblin, but stated he's fine as he had been stabbed before, which perhaps referenced this fight against his universe's Vulture.

[@Shorai_3]

@@sirtangy Or perhaps both.

[@deadpoolrockz6410]

@@sirtangy the one with Harry was both a pierce (with the Knife) and a slash (with the Gautlet). Either way, we can choose whatever we want to believe.

[@AkiroZenshin25]

@@deadpoolrockz6410That too

[@connorscortex]

This is wild because that wasn’t even their final showdown, that looks to me like it was some point in the middle of the film 😮 It bothers me, WE WERE ROBBED

[@sudev29]

Man people gave this Spiderman way too much hate. Undeserved. These movies impacted my childhood so much.

[@IsaiasMGPalafox]

In an alternate universe, Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 4 happened and ppl loved & enjoyed it. 🥺🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ghostriderkickass]

I can only imagine how great this film could have been. I think spiderman 3 was an learning experience. For raimi and sony , so they definitely would have delivered on this one

[@eternalproductions]

"I've been stabbed before "

[@nobodyknows3261]

I like it. I think I more than just like it. I love it, this is what I'm talking about. This fight scene is so amazing and spectacular and so Sam Raimi. It's just, I am sad that Spiderman 4 wasn't made. Sam Raimi even said that Spiderman 4 was going to be bigger and better than Spiderman 3. And Sam Raimi was going to make a total of six spiderman movies the three movies we seen, the one that was going to be made but got rebooted, and the others that don't exist. My theory is that Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy was going to be like Star Wars, and when I mean like Star Wars, I mean like all stories everyone knows there's a beginning, middle, and end. The Star Wars movies have sequels and those sequels are continuations, we see how it started and how it ended. I mean who knows if Sony didn't rebooted Spiderman, We would be seeing the Sam Raimi Spiderman movies that would have been legendary. I am just disappointed and inconclusion I wish that Spiderman 4 existed but it never will but it's like that saying "Gone but not forgotten."

[@faxmuchine]

You lost me at "the others that don't exist"

[@nobodyknows3261]

@@faxmuchine Well when I said, "the others that don't exist". I meant that Sam Raimi was going to make a total of six Spiderman movies. Because like I said before, we saw 1, 2, and 3. The 4th one that was going to be made until it got canceled and rebooted. And if Sony didn't reboot spiderman. Spiderman 4 would have been better than Spiderman 3. And if Spiderman 4 was a hit. Sam Raimi would probably make Spiderman 5 and Spiderman 6. And Sam Raimi would probably make Spiderman 6 the last Spiderman movie he would make for the Spiderman Raimi trilogy. So yeah that's what I mean when I said, "the others that don't exist." So sorry if you got lost when I said that.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

@@nobodyknows3261 I would've prefer seeing this second Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy than the Andrew Garfield/Tom Holland movies!

[@nobodyknows3261]

@@PedroLucas-mg5je Well in my opinion their great. Because Tobey's, Andrew's, and Tom's Spiderman movies they are all different and all went in a different direction like Tobey's very comic book accurate, Andrew's Spiderman was dark and realistic, and Tom's was different and didn't even mention Uncle Ben so yeah. There all great.

[@spider-man500]

I think that Spider-Man 6, the final movie was going to have Peter die sacrificing himself.

[@barneyjuniorYT]

I would pay to see someone bring this to life, with a Movie accurate raimi suit, cgi and all.

[@ObitoUchiha-ee3oi]

Imagine this as the opening scene for no way home

[@eh2396]

@James Miller63 MCU before disney entered though....they were about this. The first Iron Man and Edward Norton Hulk were both dark and pretty gritty compared to the disney-fied MCU later smh

[@TS-rp7dz]

@James Miller63 I get what you mean, but I think Iron Man 3 still included some surprisingly dark elements. Even though I was a lot younger when it came out, looking back on it, the depiction of Tony's ptsd was pretty well thought out and I doubt Marvel would allow a mature theme like that in any of their new projects. Some of the stuff with Extremis was pretty fucked up too, shame they just ditched the whole concept after that movie.

[@TobyMcguarro]

Wtf no

[@RamChop451]

Could you imagine if Sony grew some balls and realized that if they wanted to, they could give us this. They can have an Andrew verse and a Tobey verse. Especially if they return for Spider-man 3 with Tom. One thing though. I fear tobey will not want to return for a Spiderman 4. We can hope but it seems unlikely. However if he does return it'd be so cool to have this more mature and dark fight scene but a much older Peter. That's what raimi's films did best for me in terms of Spiderman story telling, showing the age progression. We see him in school then by 3 he's proposing. Seeing Mary Jane and Peter together and happy even older than the last time we saw them only for a crazy new fight to happen that shakes their world sounds amazing

[@allosaur_reborn]

I'm pretty sure Tobey and the cast would return for Spider-Man 4, their catalyst for leaving the film was because Raimi left so if Raimi returned to finally make it, they would probably join him. There's also rumors that Raimi does have some kind of involvement with No Way Home and played a part in bringing back his old cast members.

[@mcan-piano4718]

​@@allosaur_reborn Yes but I hope they come back as solo movie without involving new spidermans or marvel heroes. (I am sure bad script and bad soundtrack and bad director will ruin tobey even if they manage to put it in movies of new spiderman) . So I think they should do seperate solo movie independent from new MCU. It wouldnt hurt letting disney and other directors to make far from home no way home bla bla bla spiderman movies for mcu lovers and also solo Spiderman movies with tobey as a alternative for people who love dark serious less childish one protogonist Raimi movies. They make many movies at the same time already so they can have 2 different spidermans as seperate movies if they really wanna do. I hope they do that.......................

[@Bizzy3663]

Can’t believe we never got this

[@johnnyMcSheep]

"one month later, Sony moved forward with Andrew Garfield reboot...."

[@johnnyMcSheep]

lol i said fuck sony and youtube automatically censors my comment LAWL

[@trueshikaii6775]

Andrew Garfield had a solid first movie imo

[@johnnyMcSheep]

@@trueshikaii6775 Fair to say the amazing series and/or Andrew did quite okay i guess, it was just too different from the Raimi series it caused backlash among those who dont know about the comic series. Such as I.

[@stevejovs9160]

Wow seeing this makes me love Spider-Man even more