Spider-Man No Way Home: MCU Peter Powers Origin Explained!

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Spider-Man No Way Home reveals Oscorp doesn't exist in the MCU... but then how did Tom Holland Peter get his powers, exactly? Thanks to Immi for sponsoring this video! Go to thld.co/immi_newrockstars0122 and use code NEWROCKSTARS at checkout to save $5 on your order!
The MCU version of Peter Parker played by Tom Holland ever since Captain America Civil War (2016) has never fully addressed the character's origin, other than a few references to his spider bite. Now, Spider-Man No Way Home confirms that Oscorp doesn't exist in the MCU, leading many fans to now ask how exactly Peter received his powers in the MCU. Erik Voss breaks down everything we know about Peter Parker's timeline and history with Tony Stark and the other Avengers, and gives the best explanation for how this version of Peter Parker could have gotten bitten by a gamma-irradiated spider without Oscorp.
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@Webhead19_62
@Webhead19_62 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t have to get bitten by an Oscorp spider. Originally in AF #15, he got bitten by the spider at a science exhibit. I’m gonna go with the science exhibit origin.
@Doooshty
@Doooshty 2 жыл бұрын
Stark Expo was held in Queens around the time of his bite🤔
@isthatbraised
@isthatbraised 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like the Raimi version
@sneakernickel
@sneakernickel 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doooshty Yeah, it could have been someone that just paid for a spot at the convention. Like Hammer.
@sneakernickel
@sneakernickel 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mean it was Hammer's spider, I meant they paid for a spot like Hammer.
@rohithkumar8708
@rohithkumar8708 2 жыл бұрын
@@sneakernickel if it was hammer's spider. this peter would've been dead by now
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 2 жыл бұрын
In Freshman year, we might get our answer, but until then, I think they can easily go with the classic origin, before the Ultimate universe and first Raimi movie was a thing: A simple spider becomes radioactive by accident, and boom, once in a lifetime moment.
@MARLEYDIDIT
@MARLEYDIDIT 2 жыл бұрын
and when they bring in Miles Morales, *twice in a lifetime!*
@BlackVeilSavior
@BlackVeilSavior 2 жыл бұрын
@@MARLEYDIDIT and Silk, 3 times!
@lukehails9721
@lukehails9721 2 жыл бұрын
What’s freshman year
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukehails9721 MCU animated series that shows the first 6 months of Spider-Man's origin before Civil War.
@hunterrousseau3770
@hunterrousseau3770 2 жыл бұрын
That is exactly, yes that's exactly what I was gonna comment. Thank you
@MCUFanBoy7492
@MCUFanBoy7492 2 жыл бұрын
I like the origin story from the animated series and Andrew Garfields Spidey where they touch on the science of cross-species genetics, that makes the most sense scientifically speaking. To me it stands to reason that Curt Connors be the person responsible as he was the one working on cross-species genetics with Lizard DNA, it stands to reason that he would try that science on more than just Lizards. To me it doesnt make much sense to say that Stark or Ozbourne were responsible, as they mostly focus on engineering and chemistry where Connors has a biology focus
@stevenlefferts7591
@stevenlefferts7591 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good point that from a scientific standpoint the cross species spider bite would make more sense than a gamma radioactive spider bite but it would be interesting since radioactive spider is the original origin story.
@MCUFanBoy7492
@MCUFanBoy7492 2 жыл бұрын
Gamma Spider could work too
@michealmahmoud6391
@michealmahmoud6391 2 жыл бұрын
I would enjoy it if it was a cross species Spider or a mix of 616 and Ultimate Spider-Man’s origin
@stillalive2647
@stillalive2647 2 жыл бұрын
In spectacular spiderman animated series It's cornor's science lab where peter gets his bite
@MCUFanBoy7492
@MCUFanBoy7492 2 жыл бұрын
@@stillalive2647 same with the 90s tv series. It honestly just makes sense that he would get his powers from a genetic fusion of cells from a spider
@DanteYewToob
@DanteYewToob 2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to the spider, but I assumed that Oscorp does exist, it’s just different. Perhaps it has a different name, location, and look. Norman went looking for HIS building and HIS home which would never be there in this universe, so maybe Oscorp is a much smaller business because Stark Industries exists and probably takes up a massive share of the market, especially after his time as an avenger. Everyone would want a Stark Phone, Stark Pad, Stark Car, and Stark Smarthome…. I can totally picture Oscorp being a primarily military focused company like DARPA that works on weapons, biological sciences and all of the stuff Stark doesn’t meddle with. You don’t just walk into a DARPA facility, so it makes sense that Osborne couldn’t find it… most people probably don’t even know it exists.. ask a random person what Skunkworks is and they will be very confused when you tell them they build stealth bombers, weaponized drones that can read your iPhone from 70,000ft and they work out of Area 51… it sounds like a cartoonish conspiracy to most people, but they’re just the badass division of Lockheed Martin. So I imagine that MCU OSCORP is off in some top secret location developing horrifying weapons and soldiers for SHIELD, SWORD, and whomever Val works for.. Oscorp is probably making the SR71 look like a plaything and building genetic monsters that will make future MCU films a ton of fun! I have no explanation for if/how an Oscorp spider bit Peter, but it doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t even have to be an Oscorp spider.
@joh5853
@joh5853 2 жыл бұрын
Literally what I imagined, great minds think alike
@RHR199X
@RHR199X 2 жыл бұрын
I just assumed they never thought that far and that just doesn’t exist
@RedVelvetUnderground333
@RedVelvetUnderground333 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@el.diablo11
@el.diablo11 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t exist, that was admitted in nwh
@willcook1530
@willcook1530 2 жыл бұрын
@@el.diablo11 no it was admitted Oscorp as Maguire's Norman knows it doesn't exist. Which is exactly what OP is saying.
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
Freshman Year will likely give us our answers, given that it’s covering Peter’s canon MCU origin.
@thegoldenmask2051
@thegoldenmask2051 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@thepoeticbutcher3370
@thepoeticbutcher3370 2 жыл бұрын
….& when it doesn’t; we’ll say the next movie will..
@sidefn8477
@sidefn8477 2 жыл бұрын
When is it going to come out
@Goldenswagger359
@Goldenswagger359 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it’s Tony Stark since it seems like he’s responsible for a lot of things even the creation of Ultron in this universe.
@Solom0n2
@Solom0n2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goldenswagger359 pls no
@itsjustaadru9304
@itsjustaadru9304 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't feel right cause If Tony knew that Peter was bit by a radioactive spider then he won't ask that what technology Peter uses for wall crawling when he met Peter in civil war
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 2 жыл бұрын
Wha-?
@theinspiredmindYT
@theinspiredmindYT 2 жыл бұрын
He was joking around him moreover he didn't know the symptoms of the spider biter, nd he was more of an engineer, nd technogy hardware software stuff, it was banner who was more into bio tech
@jklein1100
@jklein1100 2 жыл бұрын
Just because Tony may have been behind the spider doesnt mean he would 100% know what all happened to Peter as far as transformation, so as Tony being all tech savey he would assume some sort of tech behind it. Especially if the spider and the radioactivity behind it had anything to do with super soldier serum he could have just thought all Peter would get was super strength! 🤔 just a thought though
@shreyaskumar1034
@shreyaskumar1034 2 жыл бұрын
imagine if an adult comes into your house, locks the room, and tells you the thing you kept secret for months and months
@everythingdibs344
@everythingdibs344 2 жыл бұрын
There probably wasn’t any human experimentation so he was probably curious about the side effects
@5310yryr
@5310yryr 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like that because it not only makes sense with all the comic elements but explains why Tony was so fixated on this kid. He felt responsible so he looked out for him and tried to make it right and train him for good rather than evil. Would be neat if they missed one and it got into the sewers to bite miles.
@genarohonoriorengifo8317
@genarohonoriorengifo8317 2 жыл бұрын
That's a bad idea. That would make him Iron Man's pet instead of Jr.
@5310yryr
@5310yryr 2 жыл бұрын
@@genarohonoriorengifo8317 no it mirrors ultron. He created that too but found a better way to deal with his actions this time.
@santosic
@santosic 2 жыл бұрын
@@genarohonoriorengifo8317 not anymore because he's come into his own in No Way Home.
@genarohonoriorengifo8317
@genarohonoriorengifo8317 2 жыл бұрын
@@5310yryr so you care about developing Stark's character by using Peter Parker's instead of making him have its own unique way of getting his powers without being Stark related?
@Mattucker67
@Mattucker67 2 жыл бұрын
I love this concept. The knowledge that Tony was secretly monitoring Peter's heroics helps strengthen their relationship in their onscreen appearences together.
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Peter is pound for pound one of the strongest beings on Earth yet he still stumbled back when Tony popped out of his supposedly empty suit in Homecoming. It’s probably a silly thing to notice but those touches are why it’s so easy for me to empathize with Peter.
@intisarmehbubkhanramim7650
@intisarmehbubkhanramim7650 2 жыл бұрын
He fears Tony out of respect. Doesn’t he?
@he2295
@he2295 2 жыл бұрын
As one of the best pound for pound fighters on the planet I can tell you that it's really just the arrogance you have that can be your greatest fear.
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
@@intisarmehbubkhanramim7650 yeah and he doesn’t hold himself above anyone else, which is a departure from Tony’s way of doing things
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 2 жыл бұрын
@@intisarmehbubkhanramim7650 Respects, yes. Fears, no. Respect and fear are not the same.
@yintakoda7471
@yintakoda7471 2 жыл бұрын
I Ike your profile pic and name, red pandas rule :)
@mastersith3523
@mastersith3523 2 жыл бұрын
In the original comic origin Oscorp didn’t make the spider so I’m not sure why this is a question. The spider just happened to go into a radioactive experiment.
@Jakehatred666
@Jakehatred666 2 жыл бұрын
reaching for content at this point.
@mysticstrikeforce5957
@mysticstrikeforce5957 2 жыл бұрын
its all madam spider
@EnderEYEx
@EnderEYEx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I read the og.comic and remember this too
@jordanlongley3776
@jordanlongley3776 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, it really ain’t tht deep. Think mans are just desperate for content 😂
@jcIIXVIIIVII
@jcIIXVIIIVII 2 жыл бұрын
No, he's not reaching for content lol In the comics, Peter attended a science exhibit held by General Techtronics Corporations, and while they were experimenting with radioactivity, a spider climbed down into the midst of the experiment, unseen, and then went on to bite Peter. Master Sith is correct
@swmerchant6474
@swmerchant6474 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was exactly what I wanted and even more. Great job Sony and Marvel 👍🏼
@Melloscustomcrafts
@Melloscustomcrafts 2 жыл бұрын
great job marvel!!
@hanshotlast
@hanshotlast 2 жыл бұрын
great job John watts!
@emoney5836
@emoney5836 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel
@hanshotlast
@hanshotlast 2 жыл бұрын
@@emoney5836 marvel made eternals, black widow, and Shang chi all in succession. I think it’s safe to say marvel wasn’t responsible for the good writing in no way home.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@makkerskilap8019
@makkerskilap8019 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Murdoc was affected by that chemical liquid stuff (that was never said where it came from) which enhanced his senses, and since he's canon now, maybe something similar could be the case for Peter through an affected spider. Who knows.
@sneakernickel
@sneakernickel 2 жыл бұрын
That was ooze from TGRI. I heard it did a number on a rat and some turtles. lol
@juancortez958
@juancortez958 2 жыл бұрын
@@sneakernickel I understood that reference
@kennyfnpowers707
@kennyfnpowers707 2 жыл бұрын
Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist have always been canon in the MCU.
@sneakernickel
@sneakernickel 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennyfnpowers707 Yes, but not necessarily canon. The MCU was canon for the series, but it was not necessarily reciprocal.
@kennyfnpowers707
@kennyfnpowers707 2 жыл бұрын
@@sneakernickel Its not "not necessarily canon." It is canon. They existed in the same exact world and universe and was also verified to be canon by Marvel.
@rs0620
@rs0620 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it wasn't gamma. In Homecoming, one of the crates in the plane held a lot of palladium arc reactors. The poisonous kind. Maybe that radiation coulda affected the spider?
@EkardRimidalv
@EkardRimidalv 2 жыл бұрын
Wot?
@bironjames9948
@bironjames9948 2 жыл бұрын
No NO MORE GOD DAMN STARK TIE INS
@jellymatsuryuka6853
@jellymatsuryuka6853 2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't make sense because Palladium poisoning is different from radiation, also the spider was genetically modificated
@nicotipro2
@nicotipro2 2 жыл бұрын
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 i feel like tobey and andrew both got the oscorp genetically modified spider ,i guess tom has the radioactive one
@jellymatsuryuka6853
@jellymatsuryuka6853 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicotipro2 Actually all spiders that bit them are genetically modificated or else if they were just radioactive then they would die, the proof of that is how radiation carried by a spider should make it die before it reached anyone
@nebulous7961
@nebulous7961 2 жыл бұрын
Surely there’s a universe where Mr. Diktovich is bit instead of Peter
@mohammadhusnain4704
@mohammadhusnain4704 2 жыл бұрын
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@Raccon_Detective.
@Raccon_Detective. 2 жыл бұрын
In the comics there's an alternate universe where aunt May was bitten.
@mohammadhusnain4704
@mohammadhusnain4704 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raccon_Detective. Is that true cause I haven't read any comics so I don't really know.
@buckethead60
@buckethead60 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a universe where Mr. Ditkovich is Thor? Imagine him arriving at wakanda screaming "BRING ME RENT!!!"
@eclipsehorse8693
@eclipsehorse8693 2 жыл бұрын
'pieter, you give me rent now or i punch you thru goddamn door!'
@rhodrage
@rhodrage 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest I didn't take it as confirmation Oscorp didn't exist. After all Norman didn't have full resources to fully find this out, so I took it as it could exist but that he couldn't find it. He couldn't find an Oscorp he recognised, no tower it facilities from his earth. That doesn't rule it out existing, it could exist just in a wildly different way than he knows, but it does rule it out bring where Peters Spider was from.
@ibkdayo
@ibkdayo 2 жыл бұрын
BS it obviously doesnt exist but we would find out everything we need to in spiderman freshman year
@koammudo43
@koammudo43 2 жыл бұрын
He found his house but not oscorp . What if the house he found was mcu osborn's
@koammudo43
@koammudo43 2 жыл бұрын
But He didn't talk to who lived there so he doesn't know that
@frostythesnowman9903
@frostythesnowman9903 2 жыл бұрын
@@koammudo43 he found feast cause a pic of spiderman
@horseoperamarker
@horseoperamarker 2 жыл бұрын
maybe oscorp doesn't exist _yet_
@taylorkozak9730
@taylorkozak9730 2 жыл бұрын
I think Stark will tie in somehow, but I imagine it was a class field trip to MIT or expo of MIT projects, since they all have their hearts set on that school. So many different groups working on super-soldier serum (and so many heroes tied to that storyline), it probably has something to do with that.
@DailyDoseofShortsVideos
@DailyDoseofShortsVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t want that to happen
@NarutoTsunadefan1
@NarutoTsunadefan1 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see what they do with the Freshman Year Disney+ series now. Hopefully they can confirm if the spider came from Stark projects or something else. Hopefully they won’t just skip the spider bite. I also hope Uncle Ben appears in it. I want to see his relationship with Peter and how he died since we know it’s different than it usually is.
@TheOneWhoNeedsTheSauce
@TheOneWhoNeedsTheSauce 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they implied in the movie that he didn't have an uncle ben
@NarutoTsunadefan1
@NarutoTsunadefan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWhoNeedsTheSauce In the second film, he uses Uncle Ben’s suitcase for the trip. He had an Uncle Ben at some point even if he wasn’t in Peter’s life by the time he began living with May. However, in What If, that universe’s Peter Parker mentions losing his Uncle Ben and What If is canon to MCU with the characters having pretty much the same history up to the zombie outbreak sooo...it would stand to reason that main Peter had an Uncle Ben as well.
@justsomeguywithtattoos6267
@justsomeguywithtattoos6267 2 жыл бұрын
@@NarutoTsunadefan1 what if is 0% canon
@grindx1292
@grindx1292 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWhoNeedsTheSauce i thought he died when peter was like 1 or 2 yrs old
@j4ckpsych0_54
@j4ckpsych0_54 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWhoNeedsTheSauce he does have a uncle Ben because the spiderman from the zombies episode of what if talked about him and that was a different verson of the mcu spiderman
@Thatguy-mw7sz
@Thatguy-mw7sz 2 жыл бұрын
Thor’s magic belt is actually a nod to Norse mythology where he has a belt that makes him stronger the more he tightened it. I’m from Sweden so I know. (Sorry for my bad English)
@ihspider08
@ihspider08 2 жыл бұрын
Your English was great! That's interesting, I wonder if they'll mention something about that in Thor 4
@JasonDrums24
@JasonDrums24 2 жыл бұрын
*Writes a perfectly worded comment as if English was his only language* "sorry for my bad english" 😒
@pastoryoda2789
@pastoryoda2789 2 жыл бұрын
lol that’s a stupid story, the belt alone should make him stronger not tightening it
@perhapsabird1160
@perhapsabird1160 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastoryoda2789 what? " makes him stronger the more he tightened it"
@pastoryoda2789
@pastoryoda2789 2 жыл бұрын
@@perhapsabird1160 that’s just stupid
@taken4granite817
@taken4granite817 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel is usually good at not inserting random stories or plot lines but the Tom Holland spider bite is one of those. Atleast they still have an opportunity down the road to explore that origin
@mirahkasadi6988
@mirahkasadi6988 2 жыл бұрын
This is why they announce Spiderman freshman year
@kevinzapata5348
@kevinzapata5348 2 жыл бұрын
@@mirahkasadi6988 my biggest wonder is the tie in to those 6 months since it has to be during the 6 month gap. What kind of villain did he face that would constitute him not mentioning at all in future films?
@mirahkasadi6988
@mirahkasadi6988 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinzapata5348 ohh that interesting maybe some random robbers orrrr.... Track suit mafia
@megaavonaco9954
@megaavonaco9954 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinzapata5348 I hope they are people the kingpin have.
@sir_chaos
@sir_chaos 2 жыл бұрын
It also makes sense how he tells tony how whatever happened happened to get his powers because he didn’t want tony to know he was in stark tower
@princesssmileyface91
@princesssmileyface91 2 жыл бұрын
He did put his head down, like a child does when asked a question from their parent, and the kid doesn’t want to tell the truth. 🤔
@josilennysantos4544
@josilennysantos4544 2 жыл бұрын
@@princesssmileyface91 year, great
@icemoney24
@icemoney24 2 жыл бұрын
i love how everyone forgets that tobeys spider was from Columbia university not oscorp
@blissvii
@blissvii 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't it a science field trip in the comics? Could've been any building and idk if it was oscorp in Amazing Fantasy
@inigoadinatha7897
@inigoadinatha7897 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if I remember correctly only in the Ultimate universe that the spider is related to Oscorp
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 2 жыл бұрын
I loved those comics 😄
@blissvii
@blissvii 2 жыл бұрын
@@oisinreilly2639 Me too!
@kaine8911
@kaine8911 2 жыл бұрын
@TFSoniCloverProductions Chill tf out
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 2 жыл бұрын
Not a field trip, Peter was such a science nerd he went to an exhibition of atomic energy by himself.
@cloudedeyes2693
@cloudedeyes2693 2 жыл бұрын
Before Osborn was to be revealed as the Green Goblin in the comics, there was this argument by Steve Ditko that the Goblin should have been a homeless person that Aunt May helped to Stan Lee before settling in this one. I was really happy to a revamp of the idea in the movie, it really lets me know someone knows the history of Spiderman creation.
@ER1CK12
@ER1CK12 2 жыл бұрын
Oscorp had nothing to do with his origin in the original comics. They don’t need Oscorp lol
@gechoman44iwantahippo
@gechoman44iwantahippo 2 жыл бұрын
I think Oscorp actually does exist in the MCU, despite what Norman said. I think the reason why he doesn’t know about it is one of the following: 1. Oscorp is in a different location to where it was in the Raimi films, and he couldn’t find the building anywhere else. 2. Oscorp DID exist, but it went bankrupt or was absorbed into another company. 3. Oscorp is a much smaller company than in the Raimi films. I mean, I guess the latter two could be disproven if Norman accessed the internet while in the MCU, but I honestly don’t think he did. He made it seem like either A. He just visited his home and the building where Oscorp was in the Raimi films, or B. The Goblin was in control there and he was just saying whatever he thought would advance his plans.
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 2 жыл бұрын
But wouldn't May try to search for Oscorp to try to help him?
@Travis5857
@Travis5857 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the idea of it being a subsidiary company in the stark corporation like how mysterios was plus it makes interesting plotlines
@casensitive3695
@casensitive3695 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in the Spiderman 2 script, it was stated that peter was on a field trip to one of Ottos labs in spiderman 1 and that was where he got the spider bite, but I guess for the theatrical cut they never address it or cut it out.
@MelkofficialYT
@MelkofficialYT 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Far From Home?
@isthatbraised
@isthatbraised 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelkofficialYT Raimi
@MelkofficialYT
@MelkofficialYT 2 жыл бұрын
@STN Ace 🤣 I'm confused after NWH 😃
@tubecrazy3000
@tubecrazy3000 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment was them asking questions about how Tobey’s webs work.
@thetruthwillout9094
@thetruthwillout9094 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a question. How does Spiderman stick to buildings when the barbs on his fingers and feet are extremely small yet he wears gloves and boots????
@Night.sweetdreams
@Night.sweetdreams 2 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that
@SEliteGuitarist
@SEliteGuitarist 2 жыл бұрын
In the comics it's more of an ability of Peter to consciously change the attraction of particles of his skin and objects around him. He essentially turns himself into an anything-magnet if he touches it. The barbs was just to explain it in a way average viewers would understand in the movie.
@zvrdoz4988
@zvrdoz4988 2 жыл бұрын
Now you’re just overthinking
@mjuigoku5310
@mjuigoku5310 2 жыл бұрын
He has lil spikes on he's arms and feet ... It's in the movie
@mjuigoku5310
@mjuigoku5310 2 жыл бұрын
I think even in mcu
@defleg
@defleg 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they never showed us how he got bitten gives them the perfect excuse to tie the spider to a more mystical origin and connect that to the spider totems.
@genarohonoriorengifo8317
@genarohonoriorengifo8317 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And these dumb f*ckers want the spider from Stark Industries.
@kristiandearmas5753
@kristiandearmas5753 2 жыл бұрын
Good one
@mitchumdubitz7460
@mitchumdubitz7460 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was the best Phase 4 Movie in my opinion. And the way they used all the characters was so good.
@themaxster7798
@themaxster7798 2 жыл бұрын
Well in the original comicbook story, Oscorp didn't have anything to do with Peter getting bitten by a radioactive spider, so I don't see a problem here.
@ciscoak9074
@ciscoak9074 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be great if in the next trilogy they reveal that oscorp dosnt exist YET as oscorp, but as a Purdue pharma type of pharmaceutical company that hasn't gone public yet and is known as osbourne labs. from there I think they can either "go public" on the stockmarket and rebrand as oscorp, or even better is if they kill 2 birds with one stone and introduce "octavius technologies", and it could introduce 2 important characters and also lay the groundwork for a merger of osbourn labs and octavius tech into what we know as oscorp. then that's how they can explain why oscorp is into developing drugs, experimental serums ect AND advanced tech! there's alot there where Peter can get a internship with one of those companies, and it could also setup alot in the way of octavius getting pushed or bought out and the animosity from it, and also sets up Peter being slap dab in the middle of the conflict. for example say Peter befriends Harry in college as a dorm mate, Peter meets his father and tries to develop a good relationship while also (in peters mind) try n help norman avoid his goblin destiny that Peter knows could be just around the corner if he isn't careful, then Peter gets a internship at octavius labs and befriends and gets close with otto (which he also wants to try help avoiding his villainous destiny) then the merger happens n Peter is stuck in the middle as ottos friend and protégé, as well as close friends with Harry and by extension norman as well! all the drama surrounding this merger and rebranding is stressing norman and otto out, Peter is there and sees both sides but is conflicted on how to proceed in a way where (hopefully) Peter can avoid these 2 men he respects and admires turning into the villains that he KNOWS they turn into in another universe! this is all leaving out the side narrative of norman trying to replicate the super soilder serum with skrull DNA (which when the time comes will give norman the goblin abilities,as well as the ability to shape-shift into a half skrull half human looking goblin as well as being able to shape-shift back into his norman persona), and ottos side story of hiding a genetic Parkinsons like disease, and his secretly working on tech to aid him in case he loses his motor fuctions...... there you go, there's an outline for atleast 2 movies worth of story as far as otto and norman and oscorp are concerned.
@bironjames9948
@bironjames9948 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense especially the green goblin bit mostly makes sense for aesthetics too
@czarinagarcia3724
@czarinagarcia3724 2 жыл бұрын
When goblin was taking the donuts I was cracking up 😂
@vtecanddohc
@vtecanddohc 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda don’t agree with the spiders origin coming from Tony, it feels too convenient
@bironjames9948
@bironjames9948 2 жыл бұрын
Its like they still want him to be iron boy smh
@ro-omgz6599
@ro-omgz6599 2 жыл бұрын
well originally it was from like a science fare not oscorp so ye probably will be like that
@Spider-Hoger
@Spider-Hoger 2 жыл бұрын
I think in Freshman Year, they will explain everything like how he got his powers, nice explanation
@shagginator2385
@shagginator2385 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say I love your channel keep up the great work!
@johnnyfactor2416
@johnnyfactor2416 2 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense!! Thank you for this video.
@blackmarvel6578
@blackmarvel6578 2 жыл бұрын
When he said someone's living in my house, he could have been talking about the MCU variant of himself that just didn't look like him (like Loki's variants).
@bully.maguiree
@bully.maguiree 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope marvel does that spider bite again especially since after no way home Peter is not connected to The Avengers anymore so it's not going to be unnecessary they can do the spider by again because Peter is now alone so it's all about him
@thurmanschannel8190
@thurmanschannel8190 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos that make You truly think. Fans of the MCU are fortunate to have such a resource. Keep up the good work!!!!
@WalkingMoshpit
@WalkingMoshpit 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the idea the the spider had something to do with caps super soldier serum. Like they might have been using spiders for testing or something like that. I dunno.
@genarohonoriorengifo8317
@genarohonoriorengifo8317 2 жыл бұрын
That's a better idea. Instead of Stark related things again. There are plenty of in-universe MCU colleges that could wondered how a spider could give enhancements to people like the super soldier serum. Not everything has to be Stark or Oscorp related.
@futuremarvel155
@futuremarvel155 2 жыл бұрын
Wait for SPIDERMAN FRESHMAN YEAR (2023)
@nahids6679
@nahids6679 2 жыл бұрын
Your profile pic 😍
@aaronhernandez4713
@aaronhernandez4713 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone noticed that In the scene where the Tobey, Andrew and Tom landed on the statue of liberty, that in order how their Trilogy was released respectively....
@gamingwithjust921
@gamingwithjust921 2 жыл бұрын
Typo at 1:19 Ned says bite but the subtitles says bit love your videos btw :>
@arif8967
@arif8967 2 жыл бұрын
I had the delight of being surprised to see peter in civil war. Before that, I never heard spidey being in the MCU. And boy was I happy to see him Mcu.
@antoniodonis897
@antoniodonis897 2 жыл бұрын
Oscorp doesn't always give Peter his powers
@GhostForces77
@GhostForces77 2 жыл бұрын
How else?
@antoniodonis897
@antoniodonis897 2 жыл бұрын
Earth 616 Peter was bitten by a spider after school during a science exhibit
@OfflineLukas
@OfflineLukas 2 жыл бұрын
honestly would be kind of lame if the spider bite is also again a stark thing, i would much perfer if its still oscorp but not just named oscorp yet. Maybe the osborn of this univers isnt the owner of oscorp yet, just a scientist that later inheraits the company
@iandazon2530
@iandazon2530 2 жыл бұрын
okay, so what's oscorb lmao
@SpFlash1523
@SpFlash1523 2 жыл бұрын
It's Oscorp.
@EthenBibslo
@EthenBibslo 2 жыл бұрын
Oscorb 😆
@OfflineLukas
@OfflineLukas 2 жыл бұрын
@@iandazon2530 maybe that universes oscorp, thats why osborn couldnt find it
@fearless3073
@fearless3073 2 жыл бұрын
So why would another scientist just randomly name it Oscorp? Might try thinking it through before posting on the internet.....just my advice lmfao
@TimothyDark
@TimothyDark 2 жыл бұрын
Dopeness, once again!! 🔥🔥🔥
@bwwemetallica
@bwwemetallica 2 жыл бұрын
I saw another video that mentioned that Peter had possibly been bitten at a Stark Expo event where Tony might’ve invited other scientists and such. But your video makes more sense.
@gammamorphs8760
@gammamorphs8760 2 жыл бұрын
claim early ticket here
@jaiom4229
@jaiom4229 2 жыл бұрын
No
@gammamorphs8760
@gammamorphs8760 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaiom4229 yes
@jaykay845
@jaykay845 2 жыл бұрын
What service fees are there?
@cyc__1
@cyc__1 2 жыл бұрын
No
@itchycentipede6325
@itchycentipede6325 2 жыл бұрын
Well your mom did
@Stana999
@Stana999 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they will ever reveal how he got bit.
@SeyeAwonuga
@SeyeAwonuga 2 жыл бұрын
Their making a animated series on Disney plus called freshman year which will answer how he got bit.
@AloneMusk24
@AloneMusk24 2 жыл бұрын
There's a whole animated series being done specifically for that
@chikachika7782
@chikachika7782 2 жыл бұрын
I think it might have something to do with Hank Pym, or a company trying to copy him. Shield could've confiscated the animals, and Tony could've gotten a hold of them (influenced by Pepper). Peter was at the lab for a field trip, trying to get a selfie with some of the equipment. The spider escaped, crawled through the vents, and bit him. Since they're going the spider root, I hope they do a different type of spider. Or do it for Miles Morales and have Happy say "not again" and have that be how he gets his memories restored.
@badguytalks6655
@badguytalks6655 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@MyNamesDEADMAN
@MyNamesDEADMAN 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting if it was something to do with yellow jacket like as a pre experiment to the yellow jacket suit he worked on spiders and other insects it would make sense in the timeline too
@derpydog0078
@derpydog0078 2 жыл бұрын
I hope MCU Peter’s spider bite was made from Alchamax, so that other characters connected to it, namely Miles, can also be connected
@pastoryoda2789
@pastoryoda2789 2 жыл бұрын
does Alchamax exist in the MCU?
@rue8778
@rue8778 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastoryoda2789 no i think what derpy meant was saying was that if we find out that alchemax exist when we learn how peter got bitten, it means that miles could make an appearance at least, because miles is kinda connected to alchemaz
@pastoryoda2789
@pastoryoda2789 2 жыл бұрын
@@rue8778 actually what is a big company that specializes in research & development in the mcu other than stark industries?
@rue8778
@rue8778 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastoryoda2789 shield?
@pastoryoda2789
@pastoryoda2789 2 жыл бұрын
@@rue8778 shield is more of a govt agency i’m talking about a private company like Lexcorp.
@Caponeson1
@Caponeson1 2 жыл бұрын
I think everyone forgets that it's only the movies and the ultimate universe that oscorp is the reason for the spider
@BretMuckdogs
@BretMuckdogs 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Erik!
@stevencooper564
@stevencooper564 2 жыл бұрын
That's honestly something that never crossed my mind, I honestly hope that's not how they go with it. I got the feeling that Tony was definitely monitoring him, but I think it was more that he'd been watching what he'd been doing online, possibly having people keep an eye on him, but I think he was genuinely curious how he did what he did. I'd love for them to do something different with his origin, something that makes him fully unique.
@Cliohna
@Cliohna 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the input! I always wondered what MCU Peter's relationship with Uncle Ben was. It seemed like to me he must have died earlier maybe...and/or in different circumstances.
@lancelange9377
@lancelange9377 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! The weird vocal effects made it impossible to understand what your favourite flavor was though. lol
@russellragan4588
@russellragan4588 2 жыл бұрын
I posted my last one before watching the video and I think you nailed it in the end.
@jchacho6335
@jchacho6335 2 жыл бұрын
“Oscorp doesn’t exist in the MCU…yet.” Or maybe anymore? Maybe it went under because a bunch of dangerous, radioactive spiders escaped.
@JMMJ94
@JMMJ94 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it so important to get a Tom Holland origin story. Part of the reason I loved Homecoming is because the origin was implied and they did not feel the need to tell it again for a third time on screen.
@driftpunk697
@driftpunk697 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly just certain details unclear just to fill in the gaps. We're getting Spiderman: Freshman Year animated movie as a backstory of Peter getting powers.
@joeygylytiuk3376
@joeygylytiuk3376 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the one week since his life has felt normal was when MJ found out, yet during that was like 1 week before NWH and he trusted a villain and had a gave him the stark glasses, almost blew up his own bus and hiss classmates, the entire world found out his name
@Gaudybaubles
@Gaudybaubles Жыл бұрын
This gives me answers to sooo many questions
@Lvaldie
@Lvaldie 2 жыл бұрын
The spider could have been in the Incredible Hulk. During Bruce's experiment, a spider may have accidentally got some radiation. The spider would crawl into Avengers tower and Peter would try to sneak around but would get bit.
@emmanuelcabrera8264
@emmanuelcabrera8264 2 жыл бұрын
Since the last part of Spiderman: No Way Home showed the Christmas tree on the Hawkeye. Can we say that Spiderman saved King Pin?
@reallyjam
@reallyjam 2 жыл бұрын
Genuine question, why would Spiderman save Kingpin?
@florentinovasquez3801
@florentinovasquez3801 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallyjam Good origin stort
@voicesx2011
@voicesx2011 2 жыл бұрын
I put a comment on your previous video pointing out how Norman basically told us when talking to aunt may that the Avengers Tower is not a Oscorp Building. A couple day's later you release a whole video around it. Don't think I didn't notice 🤭
@AsianTrix
@AsianTrix 2 жыл бұрын
1:52 the impression is not bad. Not great, but not bad. Keep them coming.
@ricobatello8281
@ricobatello8281 2 жыл бұрын
Love the simpsons reference at the end there. Homer once said: Alcohol is the cause... and solution... to all of lifes problems
@woodiestvoice7095
@woodiestvoice7095 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 theories about Peter getting bit by that spider 1. Maybe Oscorp eventually existed but than was shut down and destroyed maybe when the first avengers takes place or doing some disaster and that is why Oscorp doesn't even exist 2. Maybe we will follow what the comics did for Peter when he went to a science thing while everyone else goes and than the spider will go o to the radiation beam and just bite peter Those are my 2 theories if you want you could let me know your theories by replying to my comment I would liek to hear yours
@Shidozu-cu2em
@Shidozu-cu2em 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that from the comics, the spider that bit Peter had its own powers to deliver and just happens to come by some radioactivity before biting Peter, which led to it dying from radioactivity a few moments later. The spider that bit MCU Peter might have been a non-radioactive spider, just a normal magical spider. But, MCU Peter said that the spider died after biting him suggesting it also has radioactivity, so, it might have still be a radioactive spider in the MCU. Its still a possibility. Just a thought...
@WigantX
@WigantX 2 жыл бұрын
Just a "normal magical spider" lol
@menacebad
@menacebad 2 жыл бұрын
Good break down
@johnpaulpomfret5032
@johnpaulpomfret5032 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that Osborn just couldn’t find Oscorp and took it as it didnt exist OR it’s doesn’t exist YET, because I’ve been praying since homecoming that we get a movie based off of dark reign
@c0nquadr0
@c0nquadr0 2 жыл бұрын
Watch it turn out to be a poor man’s Oscorp instead 😂 This time it could be a small building on the brink of going bankrupt, until they start experimenting and gaining popularity which ends up funding for false hopes *(wink wink some villains)* Maybe that’s why Osborn couldn’t find his infamous building where it was before. Knowing Disney, they’d probably do some retcon shii like this for shits and giggles
@divyansh1207
@divyansh1207 2 жыл бұрын
Once in a lifetime experience ✨
@castiel9033
@castiel9033 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that Simsons reference at the end 🤣
@Enderpig124
@Enderpig124 2 жыл бұрын
8:06 ''Stark Industries, the cause of.. and solution to... all life's problems.'' That line is pure gold xD
@ericsonofjames4573
@ericsonofjames4573 2 жыл бұрын
In the original comics, it was just a spider that was infected by radiation at a demonstration of radioactivity at the science museum. Not everything has to be connected. Sometimes $#!t just happens. Here’s a better topic. What’s the half-life of the spider bite? Shouldn’t Peter get weaker over time? Discuss…
@teku6678
@teku6678 2 жыл бұрын
I think the spider bite fundamentally changed Peter's genetics. The spider's venom itself most likely is gone.
@feshpince7181
@feshpince7181 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with Teku, I don't think his powers necessarily have a half-life like the venom would. It seems that the bite's radiation somehow bonded with his very DNA and changed him fundamentally.
@thomasgarza6141
@thomasgarza6141 2 жыл бұрын
you know not every spiderman has to get bit by a spider in oscorp there’s hundreds of comics/origin
@feshpince7181
@feshpince7181 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's explained in the video. What, did you watch 10 seconds of this and then comment? Watch the whole thing first.
@kenbozu1
@kenbozu1 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see this explored more in Armor Wars.
@TheDigitalDecade
@TheDigitalDecade 2 жыл бұрын
I like this explanation. Makes a lot of sense.
@anayarivera9035
@anayarivera9035 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that the spider is probably going to be from a Stark lab
@bigblackeditor
@bigblackeditor 2 жыл бұрын
Sameee
@Gambito99100
@Gambito99100 2 жыл бұрын
Freshman Year will probably explain this
@rohithsharma4039
@rohithsharma4039 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I was looking for this question from couple of days now
@DeathRex88
@DeathRex88 2 жыл бұрын
I always like to think with the Gamma commonality that if anyone had a hand in creating the spider that bit Peter that it would be the Leader who was alluded to in the Hulk movie. Just collateral damage in his quest to get his gamma on
@michaellabonte6390
@michaellabonte6390 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's brilliant. Nice way to tie in the Incredible Hulk too. I'm sure universal would be down
@James-ei1sj
@James-ei1sj 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if Tom Holland is voicing Peter in the animated Freshman Year series?
@ianbaker4218
@ianbaker4218 2 жыл бұрын
he will not
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
We didn’t get any confirmation either way.
@JohnnyKawasaki
@JohnnyKawasaki 2 жыл бұрын
Here when it says Peter Powers instead of Peter Parker lol
@madeofart2452
@madeofart2452 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s a video about the origin of peter’s powers?
@intothefrayyo
@intothefrayyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@madeofart2452 😐 you know there was an error, cut it out haha
@dylansalisbury8095
@dylansalisbury8095 2 жыл бұрын
I love that this video boils down to Spiderman breaking into Avengers tower to snoop and get himself bitten. Seems insane for Peter Paker to do
@midknight2115
@midknight2115 2 жыл бұрын
So hyped for what's next
@peteg475
@peteg475 2 жыл бұрын
I never liked the "genetically engineered super-spider" thing that bit Tobey. Because if that were true, they could make more spiders that could bite people and turn them into an army of Spider-Men. What if one of those spiders bit a scientist working on them? In the comics a spider accidentally went through a beam of radiation and bit Peter right before it died, so it's unlikely to be a repeatable event. I like that idea WAY better.
@Kyzekrem
@Kyzekrem 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of that too, but then I thought of Peter's dna. The bite fused with his DNA perfectly, so I just figured if somebody else got bit, they'd probably get sick, end up with cancer or die.
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 2 жыл бұрын
Like most accident origin Superheroes, it was a chance in a million fluke, right time, right place, right set of phsyiological conditions at the time. If he was in a different mood, at a different time, it could have killed him or done nothing.
@Melloscustomcrafts
@Melloscustomcrafts 2 жыл бұрын
ok what if he got bit by a spider that carriers the x-gen!!!! like the x gen is first discovered in animals! just a fun idea!!
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting there theroy that Spiderman is a close cousin to mutants. Spiderman is a mutate or enhance person. A mutant is born with x gene or born with powers.
@Melloscustomcrafts
@Melloscustomcrafts 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 ya nice little twist since everything is gamma related in the mcu!
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 2 жыл бұрын
@@Melloscustomcrafts more like radiation or Toxic Chemicals.
@DuskyPredator
@DuskyPredator 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video recently that said something about the Stark Expo, which was in Queens, and might happen to line up for when Peter got bit.
@wardy6224
@wardy6224 2 жыл бұрын
I always had in my head that the MCU spider was an alien spider that hitched a ride from the Chitauri, maybe got some tesseract juice on it in the process too… afterall they mention it has gamma radiation. Either that or its just a regular spider that got ark reactor juice on it xD
@dont-hurt-me2519
@dont-hurt-me2519 2 жыл бұрын
What if, just like Miles Morales from Into the Spider-Verse, the MCU Peter Park got his powers from a spider that came from another universe?
@shelovescas2490
@shelovescas2490 2 жыл бұрын
Because at that point the multiverse wasn’t “open”
@Samsemus
@Samsemus 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how Norman would know that his company doesn’t exist in the MCU, like did he asked May or something? But could it be that it was all in his act?
@RandyGBH
@RandyGBH 2 жыл бұрын
He went to his house so I’m sure he went to his office building and found nothing there
@RandomPerson-hc6zz
@RandomPerson-hc6zz 2 жыл бұрын
i could see the spider coming from Hydra, and they could say it got loose after Hydra/Shield fell apart
@toreyhunter9508
@toreyhunter9508 Жыл бұрын
I watched NWH recently and when Norman tells Peter says “Wait didn’t you…” before he is cut off again by Norman. I think Norman and Oscorp existed in the MCU at some point but something happened that they have no story line for yet.
@nutsofrantic123
@nutsofrantic123 2 жыл бұрын
Additionally: I know it's really for legal reasons but when he told Tony about it he was evasive and said "when whatever happened happened" But with Ned he flat out says about the spider. Could be he didn't wanna rat himself out to tony? Idk, just something I noticed.
@genarohonoriorengifo8317
@genarohonoriorengifo8317 2 жыл бұрын
Why would Parker tell him the exact source of his powers when Tony literally had no clue about them and thought he used adhesive gloves to crawl up walls? Obviously, Peter won't tell him details about it if he supposedly knew that much.
@BrysonMichaelRC
@BrysonMichaelRC 2 жыл бұрын
What I wanna know is, where did Mysterio get the drones he had prior to getting the glasses and actually getting the drones... It's confusing. Did they break into stark tower and grab like 20-30 drones? And if so, did they grab some other stuff?
@genarohonoriorengifo8317
@genarohonoriorengifo8317 2 жыл бұрын
Is that difficult to think they've built those themselves? Not everyone depends on Stark technology. Even the tinkerer use alien based tech for Vulture's and Shocker's gadgets.
@rocksinsocks787
@rocksinsocks787 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! What breed is your dog?
@Bryle_
@Bryle_ 2 жыл бұрын
Let's just hope we see Peter's origin in his 4th installment if ever there will be, there has to be.
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