I am putting together a bushcraft pack and using my old issued Alice pack. The frame is less than stellar so I made a new one out of 1/2 inch PVC. It cost about 5 bucks plus paint. / spiffyguyadventures
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@cecilhedgepeth44472 жыл бұрын
Filling the frame with spray foam prior to glue up might be a nice addition to increase strength without adding tons of weight
@floydcrase625 Жыл бұрын
The claim to fame for alice is the frame its a work horse if its riding high lower it by adjusting the shoulder straps
@redoak38096 жыл бұрын
You can make a second frame out of electrical conduit which is not as brittle in the cold. Also, PVC needs to be painted or something to protect it from the UV rays of the sun. Nice video.
@paddygriffiths11395 жыл бұрын
"You can make a second frame out of electrical conduit which is not as brittle in the cold. " Please can you elaborate on this portion of your comment and include links to any sources, as I am very intrigued!!
@MTwoodsrunner9 жыл бұрын
at 5'10"i find the alice frame quite good....the suspension system is the real short coming in this system....molle shoulder straps solved that problem for me...the molle waist belt sucks for me personally, if your a tall individual, then i can see where the frame might be a problem...for me its the bomb.....great instructional...woods
@SpiffyguyAdventures9 жыл бұрын
MTwoodsrunner Thanks. I may have to switch over to the molle straps and some point. I hear they are quite a bit more comfortable.
@templarknight11196 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I would like ask if you would recommend using a PVC Alice frame to mount a large propane tank, connect a big propane torch to it, thus creating a backpack flamethrower that you can wear for yard work (such as burning weeds) or melting snow. I know there are products like that out there already, but just think about the savings you could make and the lightness of the PVC frame (hopefully a BBQ propane tank isn't too much for pvc piping to bear!)!
@SpiffyguyAdventures6 жыл бұрын
Not really sure if it would handle the weigh of a tank. In general the idea sounds a bit dangerous.
@noshame7472 Жыл бұрын
Nah mate I would not mix the two as the wight might create a crisis.
@noshame7472 Жыл бұрын
Hay I've tried the PVC however I've down graded it and I have to say its good but my shoulders kill me after a couple of miles. I'm thinking its something to do with where you attach the Alice Straps at the top?? Any ideas.
@InsidetheBoothTV4 жыл бұрын
thanks I want to make one for my proton pack. and i was looking for something, glad i came up with yours. thanks again. (Dan from inside the booth)
@markhalfpenny34685 жыл бұрын
Louis life a Gerät idea, is there a the weight difference between the two?
@ike7806 жыл бұрын
Those packs are nothing without a frame. They tend to dump way down on the back. It's what I use and they are tough. Great video. Do u think the 1" pvc would be stronger?
@SpiffyguyAdventures6 жыл бұрын
You are quite right that these packs slump really bad without the frame. I have used the PVC frame a few times with a chainsaw in the pack. Worked very well but the PVC broke, but only at the glue joints. I used a piece of stick to repair the joint and it seemed to work fine after that. If I was to remake it, I may set each joint with a wooden dowel for support. Glued in place. Moving to 1 inch, I am not sure if that will increase the durability at the joint. I think that is where the failure point is. Ideally it would be made of single piece aluminum with the two cross pieces tac welded on. But that is above my skill set right now. Thanks for watching.
@donaldavant30958 жыл бұрын
parts cut schematic
@snakemonkey5559 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Definitely going to DIY the frame. How tall are you so I can copycat the frame dimensions. Thanks!
@SpiffyguyAdventures9 жыл бұрын
snakemonkey555 I am 5' 10" Not too broad in the shoulders. Dry fit your parts and you can trim them if you need to. Good luck.
@snakemonkey5559 жыл бұрын
+Scott Hayden thanks for the quick reply. I'm 5'10", 215lbs. Figure I'll follow your measurements and adjust from there. Thanks for your help.
@jameshargroder70905 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video, I will be doing this for my large alice pack this week!!!
@SpiffyguyAdventures5 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. You may want to use a dowel on the joints just to strengthen them. That is where i have found the weak spots to be.. Mainly the Ts on the back.
@JohnSchneider-SocksofGranduer3 жыл бұрын
@@SpiffyguyAdventures This is a brilliant idea.
@redoak38096 жыл бұрын
Shoe polish would work to "paint" it as well. How did this hold up for you? How did you attach the hip belt and straps? Since you made it longer and it is riding lower on the hip area, it might be more comfortable if you put a slight angle at the bottom of the pack so the weight vector would be at a diagonal. I might also incorporate a second 10" piece on the shelf that could be removed and used to replace a broken tube if you are out on the trail and some duct tape or that tape used to protect the head of a tennis racket might be nice on the bottom to protect it a little from the ground. I may have to make on one of these for my Swedish LK35.
@SpiffyguyAdventures6 жыл бұрын
I did have a few points where it broke due to cold and stress. I was able to repair in the field with a stick carved down to work as a dowel. It rides well, even broken. Hip bad rides at the hip. Was easily strapped on using the stock webbing. I have thought about using aluminium conduit but worried about weight, all the junctions and price. I keep meaning to hit up local welding shows to see if once can fabricate something for me.
@jllucci3 жыл бұрын
Is it any lighter than the issue frame?
@SpiffyguyAdventures3 жыл бұрын
yes it is lighter. Bit brittle in the cold. Might be better to use the grey stuff. I like the length on it compared to stock frame. Might try to find a welding show to make one out of aluminum to handle the weight of my chainsaw.
@aussiearu10 жыл бұрын
How's air ventilation?
@SpiffyguyAdventures10 жыл бұрын
It does sit off the back a little and provides some venting on the sides better than a standard pack. I have not had a chance to do a day with it yet. I will post up some thoughts once I can get out in the field.
@ronschreiber36355 жыл бұрын
Thanks .going to build this .what type Heat gun is that ? great video great Info too. Subscribed to you . Thanks again .
@SpiffyguyAdventures5 жыл бұрын
Heat gun is a Wagner I think. Cheap Home Depot special. Good luck on the build. Recommend using some dowel sections to strengthen the joints a bit. I did have some breakage right at the joints when out in the field. I have fixed it with a short dowel epoxied in place. All good now.
@ronschreiber36355 жыл бұрын
@@SpiffyguyAdventureshanks for the reply just where do I put these Dowel's ?
@SpiffyguyAdventures5 жыл бұрын
@@ronschreiber3635 I used short, like 4 inches at the Ts in the back support and the 90s at the bottom. They seemed to take the brunt of the stress. I had to trim to fit snuggly, then epoxied it together. If I build some scratch again I would set these in place and then PVC glue together. In the cold the PVC can get a little brittle and these help. Have not tried Schedule 80 PVC, which may be better.
@ronschreiber36355 жыл бұрын
@@SpiffyguyAdventures I will give it a try I have everything cut .Thanks .
@e.s.l58615 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried this with shed 80 grey? Seems like it would be a bit more durable
@SpiffyguyAdventures5 жыл бұрын
I agree that schedule 80 is probably a better choice. Since I made this I have upped my knowledge a bit on the materials. I suspect that 80 still suffers from brittleness in cold though. That is a concern. The only issues I had with breakage was right near the joints. I did perform repairs using a dowel to strengthen and that seems to be working well. I think if I was to build another, I would secure the joints during build with a dowel epoxied in. But this of course adds weight. The ease of use with PVC is inviting to make custom frames.
@e.s.l58615 жыл бұрын
You may want to look into fiberglass snow markers. They would need to be stacked in together but would add tensile strength without as much weight.could use the runnier type of “great stuff” to spray in as a binder
@SpiffyguyAdventures5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that could work out as well. Those snow markers are pretty cheap and easy to cut. Might have to look into it. I do want to make the lower shelf about an inch or two wider to give it a better "foot" to stand on once the saw is in there.
@TheGberg5610 жыл бұрын
Whats the width of the cut horizontal pieces? I didnt hear it in the video
@SpiffyguyAdventures10 жыл бұрын
10 inches. You can size these though to your body if you want. If you need it a little wider just cut all of the pieces longer or shorter. Custom fit :) Thanks for watching.
@TheGberg5610 жыл бұрын
***** would it still fit in the little opening for the frame on the alice pack?
@SpiffyguyAdventures10 жыл бұрын
TheGberg56 There is a little room to go wider for the alice pack pocket. But not too much. If you are bending the PVC already you could make the top section as wide as it can be to fit and then flair out to the width you would need for the rest of the back. PVC is pretty flexible once you heat it so you could bend it into whatever shape you need.
@TheGberg5610 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks man, just put the frame together and it fits really well. Only thing I have to do is extend the shelf to fit my MMSS bag and I'll be set. Thanks for the idea!
@SpiffyguyAdventures10 жыл бұрын
TheGberg56 Glad it works out for you. I am liking mine but I may upgrade the straps to a MOLLE set. They seem to have better coverage and comfort. Good luck.
@donaldavant30958 жыл бұрын
parts listing legend, length of pvc pipe used overall?
@SpiffyguyAdventures8 жыл бұрын
I don't really have a parts list or length as it depends on the sizing you choose and whether you want the shelf on the bottom or not.
@realmetis80025 жыл бұрын
pvc is not food safe yuck no water
@steveparsley2635 жыл бұрын
Not sure of your point? PVC is used for piping water in a house. What is it you believe PVC is used for?