You Are Using Your Kayak Cart Wrong

[@yobee5779]

Wow, thanks for this incredible video. I am a 54 year old woman, trying to make things easier on my body. Waiting for the delivery of my first fishing kayak. Thanks again😁

[@spiltmilt]

That's great! I hope you enjoy your new kayak.

[@bushpilotdude7154]

Outstanding video! Very informative, clear and to the point! Thank You for sharing! I am a new subscriber!

[@garychiang2568]

I have the exact same kayak and wilderness systems cart. Just need to do both methods once with a fully loaded kayak to know what you’ve said is fact!

[@BradinManheim]

Simple high school physics of the see saw.

[@stevenarseneault1972]

I'd be carefull adding weight in a kayak while on a cart due to stress in one spot on the hull. The hull was designed to distibute the weight across the hull. Stay away from carts that insets into the scuppers as it causes stress on the joint in the scupper where the mold joins during construction. I've seen videos where guys were 8ut to sea far from shore and they had to rush back to shore while the hull was taking water. The back end of the kayak was submerged. The trapped air in the front of the hull was the only thing saving him. Once on shore they discovered a seperated scupper hole that was caused by his cart thst inserted in the scupper hole. Just an FYI for you all.

[@michaelangelo7511]

I am 76 and struggle with walking.I also put the wheels more central. Thirty years ago I would flip my canoe over my head , rest it on my shoulders and walk away. Ugh! Old age sucks.

[@jspyrogram]

Wow! Thanks for this info. I’m a 67 yr old woman and wondering how I was going to get my bigfish 103 pdl to the lake.

[@tklosterman11]

Show me how you get it back in from the water and out of the water that’s where it’s difficult

[@armyfazer1410]

Placement was definitely my issue on the first day out. It was a rough start. But I'm learning what works and doesn't. Especially with videos like this.

[@CuriousEvenmore]

Basically find close to center of balance for weight

[@b1_ferg]

Foundations of basic leverage 👌👌 It's funny how easily we can forget how to work smarter, not harder. Thank you, my friend.

[@SRH420ful]

my kayak is very heavy and I had all kinds of trouble with this situation (too heavy for me to lift so high to hit middle and my rudder is at risk of damage in the rear. it was easier to get the bar cart tied to the kayak just behind the seat while still on the trailer pull it down mostly off the trailer preventing ground contact with the rudder then lift the nose onto another set of wheels and tie it securely below my 2 batteries in the front compartment. Haha 4 wheels is the bomb and both fit in the rear plenty room on my 13ft Brooklyn kayak with trolling motor and blue floaties sticking way out but way back and out of the way. I have a 140c hummingbird dual beam fish finder and a fish finder I can cast up to 400 feet and watch a wireless screen in front of me. I rolled my kayak around my block to test the wheels and told everyone it was my new emotional support kayak

[@maxb1985]

The problem is all my beer goes in the front hatch so it's always heavy

[@BakerBaker1-9]

Good demo and tutorial but my wife carries my yak so I don't need a cart.....

[@Tacoman1967]

Let's all go back to Physics class. The fulcrum and lever principle.

[@jasonb4738]

The kayak handles are placed at the center point unloaded.

[@Itsme83.]

Wish I woulda watched this before I had to pull mine back and forth up and down a hill to the lake. Lol

[@richardsprojects]

The only reason to put the cart right at the stern is when going over rough undulating ground

[@Findpeace1]

Um, just like a fulcrum on a see-saw. Duh?

[@nhansen197]

It's all in where the centre of gravity is. People need to be mindful of inclines too.

[@DINKStyles]

This is great information but it just the weight of lift the kayak not the weight of pulling the kayak. The weight of pulling the kayak will remain the same regardless where you put it.

[@truenorthangler]

Very happy you made this video. Saves me a lot of unnecessary weight that I don’t have to carry.

[@mjo4432]

Great video. I don't understand how this isnt common sense to everyone. Additionally, I always hear about people having problems with the c-tug cart- would love to understand why.

[@diverdoyle]

C tug is due to shape of tug vs shape of the kayak and placement … quick mod fix mod for the tug is placing some pool noodles on the inboard top portion of each pad to help fill the void or make a catch lip the tunnel can ride on also 2-3” pvc pipe cut to size of the pad can be used in place of noodles .. bungees with two anchor points in each side instead of the strap works too keep it in place too

[@robbojr11]

The strap is a nasty little pain in the ass. And the kickstand doesnt function as designed. Soon as you move kayak on it it lets go. And the pads drop to ground. So requires alot of fiddling. To get placement anywhere near sweet spot on my double kayak requires 2 people and me laying on ground to do it. Might add some pvc pipe with pool noodles to hel with centring. Also its not very wide so is awkward to locate or see if its straight. Many times i pull it crooked as dont have patience for pissing about.

[@cricketthoffman9499]

Common sense. Thanks for showing I have been doing it right all along.

[@ninjarider84]

I have a catch 130 and just bought the CTug and put it on the back....omg I was exhausted by the time I got it to the water from the parking lot lol I was barring all the weight on my arms and the front holder

[@Aleoop57]

I like your video very much, but maybe you could get morein-depth And tell us how much weight the cart will hold and then change the tires to a beach tire and tell us the difference in the cart reaction then. what I’m trying to do is possibly use the heavy duty cart to move around my inflatable boat from my truck to the water and this would help a lot understanding more about the cart. Again, great video keep up the good work. Also let me give you a little more information. I have a 9.9 outboard motor and the inflatable boat is about 87 pounds so let’s just say it weighs around 200 pounds. My understanding of the hard wheels it will carry 450 and then the beach will I think will carry 350 I would still put me under the weight of what they say the kayak cart will carry

[@vindictivesep]

Thanks for intel boss, very helpful.

[@mariedel2080]

Bravo! Très belle vidéo, images très claires

[@codyosborne9307]

You'd think that with degrees in biology, chemistry, and PHYSICS and I'd of thought about this more.

[@stevehogan8829]

This is an excellent video... i really appreciate the time it took to do this.. I just encountered a health issue and this is exactly what I'm struggling with. Thank you.

[@kirill_gusev]

Story of my life lol. I own large and heavy Predator PDL. Initially I went with boondox landing gear with inflatable wheels. Soon I realized that while inflatable wheels are probably beneficial on sand they make yak easily flippable if run over something on hard pavement. Or almost impossible to install on yak in the water. So I replaced them with c-tug sand trakz. Well then I realized that because they so back and close to stern I carry so much weight so I begun loading everythihng to the back of yack and assembling just before getting into water. Now I'm thinking I just need to get a small cart that i can pun underneath in the middle of yak and be done with it. Oh and remove 10 lbs of landing gear. Less is more.. Happy fishing everyone.

[@denisvincent3249]

Great video thanks for sharing

[@Justin-zs1ql]

This is exactly why I swapped out the Malone for the WS cart. The Malone never settled right in the optimal area to be placed for my Sportsman PDL 120.

[@douglasbrown9625]

Very nice video! I always had this thought running through my head, thank you for showing us. I’m looking to find one for my Vibe Seaghost 110.

[@FamilyNick]

I learned this on my own the hard way😂 Wish I had seen this before then😝 Once again another super informative and great video! Thank you!

[@ghostface423]

Thank you for the advice.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@thegreat7861]

I’ve literally just purchased a set of wheels for my kayak and first time out I put them at one end. What a fool! Thanks for sharing this, I definitely won’t make the same mistake again 🙂

[@PilzE.]

Great idea for a video! Who knew? I would've just continued plodding along with my cart out back. Thank you, that'll save me some arm pumping power to land all those monsters!!!

[@territodude]

Thanks, very useful info and makes sense to apply it out there. I'm thinking of making a vest harness that connects to a clip strap to the bow to make it almost zero, lol

[@jefferyswartwood9412]

THAT! Was a great video!! Very informative!

[@carricos86]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can never get mine on properly. I always cause an embarrassing scene because it falls off on the side of the road lol

[@kingofhearts4395]

Great video. I was just taking measurements to build my kart and was going to put it just behind the seat. Guess ill be moving to under the seat. Thumbs up on your video.

[@14Mentalist]

That is a brilliant review and info thank you. I will be putting my wheels on my sit on top in the middle 😊

[@alabamaadventurer]

Very cool video, very informative for a new kayaker like myself

[@tomsergesketter5138]

Great video. Just bought a kayak cart today. Very helpful.

[@DetroitFishigan]

Thanks for doing this 💯🤝🏼

[@mjc1177]

Wow this is amazing thanks for this

[@pcolapaddler]

Good presentation. You are correct that some experimentation is warranted. The optimal position for balance may not be optimal for fitting the cart to the bottom of the kayak and, as you demonstrated, additional gear can change the balance as well. Speaking of additional gear, it should be remembered that it may be necessary to be able to pull/control this 'trailer' while going up and down hills, etc.

[@Jarom.M]

SCIENCE! Thanks for explaining it easily with tangible results displayed clearly.

[@toddclarke3132]

I have a PDL 120 and have not been a fan of the bow handle. The stern handles are so much more comfortable. Using your demonstration I may come to like my bow handle. Thanks for the video!!!

[@surfyskateboard]

Thanks for this great tip. Just got a kayak and cart. This video seriously just made my life easier. Thanks for making this video!

[@minbrianbordley6809]

great lesson i have been hauling my 120 auto sport and felt w disabilities this was impossible to actually get to/on the water, but now feel this is so much more durable under the mid handle, i like the wilderness cart better than malone cart

[@toznerd6369]

Squirrel alert, just off of the port bow in the brush line, at 1:34!

[@mariannewilliams138]

that totally makes sense TY

[@theodoreolson8529]

Great video for a noob like me. Thanks.

[@BassManStrikes]

Nice job, and landing gear sucks 🤣

[@HendersonHookin]

I still get this question at least three times a day. I consider that good as it tells me our sport is growing.

[@vegetaiv9275]

Thank you for your video! Thanks to it, I know the best position to load my kayak onto the cart.

[@adamwalls8992]

Great video...thanks!

[@stwesh1431]

Wow. I just bought an Old Town 120 PDL and this is very helpful.

[@hugolopez2543]

Thank you great video

[@daveshaw1802]

Thanks for the great tip

[@glennnewell2786]

You make great informative vids , thanks for your time.

[@RogerFordTheSmilingBassHole]

Fantastic information! Thanks!

[@jonlobello7151]

Just recently I saw a guy in a vessel very similar to your electric Old Town kayak on a local lake here in the U.P. of Michigan. When I went back to the boat lunch I talked to the guy and he informed me that it was the same Old Town set up that you use and mentioned something about an Old Town Forum. I was very surprized in how big and heavy it was (150 lbs). He used a Jet Ski trailer to transport it on. And, we both marveled at how you are able to transport yours on top of your Subaru!?

[@cr8244]

Brilliant!

[@greyscout01]

Plain and simple tutorial. Thanks. I appreciate the info.

[@scottgrayson33]

Well done video. Thanks. I was watching for cart designs and this is helpful.

[@ShenpaiWasTaken]

Cool video! I don't think I've ever seen anyone explain this. Thanks for sharing!

[@coprguy1]

I discovered this by necessity early on but I've always wondered why it's always portrayed incorrectly in kayak and cart advertising photos.

[@Heartwing37]

Great demo! Thank you!!!

[@dancelucy6942]

Excellent scientific methodolgy, my man!

[@MysticalDragon73]

The only kayak cart to use is the wilderness systems cart. It's got a 500 lb rating and works on all boats. Yes it's expensive but it's worth it. Under so circumstances should anyone use one's that go into the scupper holes, even if they are put out by a boat manufacturer. They stress the weakest part of the boat, especially when going over uneventful terrain.

[@dudewheresmycar8506]

Thank you man this was very informative and cool to watch

[@gordonmcds]

#physics #pendulumaction. Great tutorial! Wish I could do this with my pontoon boat.

[@wendemate8491]

Thank you so much for this. I have wheels that are made to plug into my Hobie kayak in one position only - which is behind the seat. The kayak is 73lbs and it's very heavy, awkward pull down my street to the dock. I was wondering if backloading it with a cooler, the removable seat, the pedal mechanism, etc, might help tilt the balance of the weight in my favor and you just answered that. I'm going to try it out and see if it lightens it enough. Thanks again!!!!

[@brian1204]

I figured this out on my own; slightly overbalance the cart to the front so you have 5-10 lbs “weight” which helps with control. Works a treat!

[@drtoddsullivan]

Great video showing the pressure difference. I have the wilderness cart for my AP 120. The most difficult part is lifting up the rear of the kayak up high enough to get the cart in the middle. This is especially difficult if your kayak is loaded up with gear and your kayak is in the water. Any tips or suggestions?

[@spiltmilt]

I will slide the cart up underneath the kayak while its in the water. This works really well at boat ramps.

[@drtoddsullivan]

@@spiltmilt thanks for the tip I will try that next time. I assume you strap the cart to kayak while in the water to keep in the correct position.

[@Sanctified_Leather]

Buy a lighter Kayak 🤣😂 the AP is Heavy Heffer

[@ytwyrm]

I have an Old Town PDL 106 and the Wilderness cart. I am still struggling with getting the thing out of the water. Launching it is easy-peasy. Recovering, not so much. I hate blocking the boat ramp as well, especially on busy days! Did you ever get a technique down when taking your kayak out of the water? Getting the cart underneath is usually easy enough but if you don't lock it down it will slide off every damned time.

[@ericporter2373]

I assume it is not quite as nimble as turning radius with wheels in middle? What wheel set up are you using?

[@spiltmilt]

It spins 360 no problem. I am using a Wilderness Systems heavy duty kayak cart.

[@ericporter2373]

@@spiltmilt do you strap it down or just sey kayak on and move around?

[@spiltmilt]

On concrete, grass, or asphalt I don't strap it down on gravel, sand, or uneven terrain i do

[@justinmayer9973]

Not unlike a long tongue trailer vs a short toungue… maneuverability is dramatically altered with the cart in the middle… just look at all the manufacturers images, the cart is never in the middle. Just because the weight is diminished doesn’t make it better

[@bluenotgreen63]

Great video. Thank you.

[@handiman5]

Great presentation & demo!

[@CarlosGonzalez-vu1ew]

Thank you!!!

[@alexpazmino4762]

Great presentation. Thank you for the tutorial. Keep up the great work.

[@RyokanDaigu]

Awesome demo! Very helful!!

[@debbiewrazen5233]

Great educational video on using the cart properly. I am 64 and just bought my first kayak. While I’m loving the kayak on the water, it is labor intensive for me to carry a 37 pound ( yes, you read correctly) kayak. Thanks for helping me.

[@laurelnahorniak6448]

Mine is 60 lbs, and I am 69

[@anderssandstrom545]

It's absolutely a good video but are there really people that do not understand this the physics behind this? It is really basic. REALLY basic but hey, apparently he comes across this now and then.

[@janetbaker1945]

Does it matter which direction your cart is turned? I just got a Bonnlo and the kickstand always messes people up. Should the kickstand go in front (i.e. the direction you're traveling) or go toward the rear, away from the direction you're going? Also--thank you for teaching me this weight distribution thing! I'm elderly. I used to kayak a lot, then moved to Chicago where that river will kill you--not with white water, with fumes! But now I moved to coastal Texas and got a 50 pound kayak and this is going to make up for my diminution of strength! I can't wait! Thanks for thinking to tell us!

[@Your_Crafty_Critic]

The information you provided was very interesting, logical, and educational. A “Duh!” Moment. I wish I had seen it sooner, as I just recently finished building my DIY kayak scupper cart. My Perception Outlaw 11.5 kayak has several paired scupper holes, with three sets being the same distance apart and the furthest set to the rear being slightly narrower. Unfortunately, I went with the narrower rear scuppers, which left me with only one option for the cart. As you have pointed out I should have chosen the equidistant scuppers, as that would have given me three different attachment points for the cart. This could have allowed for a better load dispersal option across the three attachment points. If I encounter any issues with my new DIY cart, I will build the next one to fit the three identical scupper sites.

[@jeronimo2152]

Great Demo!!

[@ts0ngk0]

Thanks for sharing!

[@teriwright3295]

Quit talking physics 😁💯👍... good job, I've been waiting for people to figure this out. The hardest spot is when you're lifting the kayak nose up to the truck bed the rear hits the ground quicker and it's a bitch. But I really do think you've pinpointed some good advice.

[@DGH420]

Black Walnut ... Good video by the way~

[@spiltmilt]

The taxonomist in me is hard to suppress.

[@BassManStrikes]

Don't have much choice if you have a native kayak with landing gear. I have yet to find a cart that works with the slayer max 12.5 Pulling a nose heavy kayak is the worst..

[@spiltmilt]

It is the worst.

[@kjfishman547]

Great demonstration.

[@blake5041]

Thank you so much for the demo, I appreciate the clarity, seriously. Could you tell me where you got your block and tackle system? i saw you lock it off with ease and I could totally use one of those. Feel free to direct message me. Thanks, Blake.

[@NorthwestOpenSeason]

I only have 2 college degrees and educational background in engineering and physics, but I was still able to figure this out on my own 😁 It is amazing how effortless it feels when you get the wheels positioned just right. I just bought a PA and unloading it from my truck to the garage was easy, almost felt weightless. But I’m pretty sure no matter where I put the wheels, it’s gonna feel heavy pulling it up an incline though. Another great informative video of the small things some people take for granted, Tyler 👍

[@Sanctified_Leather]

I have 0 College Degrees and Heavy is Heavy. And a PA14 or even a PA12 is are Heavy Tanks. Hull weight on PA 14 120.5 and fitted 144.5 if you put in your gear your talking 200+Pounds that's a Fat Heffer No matter where you put the wheels.

[@ElliottCustomLures]

If I had a PA, Iid just wet launch off a trailer!

[@georgefitzhugh6455]

Thanks

[@TruthSeeeker777]

Great tip. Thanks

[@JW-sl9ik]

Can you use this to go uphill on a river bank?

[@spiltmilt]

You'd want to strap the kayak to the hull but sure.

[@ebear4015]

Would think this is basic physics, but it wasn't until I saw our neighbor walk a canoe with the wheels in the back. Once I helped him maneuver the wheels over the center he was like "oh man this is fantastic".