SPIN FOREVER! Onyx Racing's Silent MTB Hubs

[@vitalmtb]

Thumbs up for silent hubs! Or do you prefer the noisy variety?

[@dev_IL666]

Dont like carrying bells or what not, so hikers beware lol. If you have head phones on and cant hear me it's on you ! I prefer loud imo!

[@Xav911]

Every mtb youtuber should rides one of these

[@dan-5678]

I think this silent is absolutely cool, but when I finally build my dream bike I'm going to get one of those i9 hubs, like the Hydra that just sounds like a freaking banshee. I think that sounds absolutely awesome, it's near-instantaneous engagement and like a previous comments or said you won't have to carry bells or anyting for riding near bears or moose or elk or hikers.

[@sparky001]

I think it might be from driving cars, but just hearing nothing but tyres and the ground doesn't suit me. I love hearing a high engagement hub whizzing away in the mix.

[@Nozes..]

What about affordable alternatives for the working class silence lovers out there? 450$ is what I plan on spend on a wheelset.

[@cup_and_cone]

I don't know when loud ass hubs became synonymous with quality (eeeer, yes I do, I blame you, Chris King!), or people wanting to pretend they're on motos, but I'm all for silent freehubs. I'm sad Shimano abandoned their Scylence, but excited to see others catch on. Tire noise and nature is all I want to hear on a ride.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Cup & Cone How can you take Chris King’s name in vain?! I’m so offended! Just kidding of course.

[@baddriversofcolga]

I read in a review that the new Shimano Micro Spline hubs are pretty quiet - not sure just how quiet, though.

[@Jaymachine]

The shimano sylence hubs are available in the new 12 speed microspline. i just bought one going to lace it up tomorrow. $115 xt rear hub, $55 front. The front hub is trash bearings so rough needed to polish cup and cones to smoothen it, but the rear is pretty smooth and silent.

[@cup_and_cone]

@@Jaymachine The 8100 hubs aren't actually Sylence (you won't see official marketing for Sylence on them), but they're still pretty quiet (as are the new XTR hubs). They probably weren't as quiet as Shimano hoped so they stopped marketing it. My last front Shimano road hub was like that too...very notchy. I usually just run new Shimano hubs as-is from the box for a couple hundred miles, factory grease and preload...this let's the races lap themselves in. Then I'll do full rebuild to get the contaminated grease out, re-grease, and do final adjustment.

[@Jaymachine]

Cup & Cone Thanks,I was curious about that. Its definitely a spin off of the sylence hubs design then, its not the normal paw engagement. you feel the complete disengagement and there are no clicks. But at low speed it comes back into engagement and you hear the clicks. I’ll crack them open after i get some miles on them and see whats going on for sure.

[@enol8603]

I've always enjoyed quiet hubs. Been on Shimano XTR, Saint hubs and DT Swiss 240s and even used the Shimano silent clutch hubs but those felt too spongy and didn't last long. Saved up for these hubs and they've been pretty bombproof. 3 years later and still no issues. When I'm out in nature I prefer to listen to the sounds of nature rather than add noise pollution with noisy hubs.

[@craigmcbrierty3378]

Did you go for the classic or vesper?

[@daver787]

The silence is the icing. The first layer of the cake is the drag-free performance. They are noticeably faster on downhill sections. The rest of the cake is the instant engagement. Unbelievably nice on technical climbs while ratcheting those pedals. I rode these for three years. Bought a new Evil Offering in June and HATE the noisy hubs. My Onyx/We Are One Unions arrive today! I've never met anyone who went back to draggy chainsaw hubs after riding Onyx.

[@crazy8sdrums]

That is super nice! Glad to see effort put into making the hubs silent rather than loud like most of the other popular hubs. It seems that loud hubs are something of a source of pride among MTB riders. They brag about it often too.

[@wyattcave1752]

Case for loud hubs: multi-use trails. Edit: So I guess bells exist. Also, I should learn how to whistle.

[@miktub1555]

Case for loud hubs: living in BC=bears

[@freerider8737]

or just they sound cool which is why everyone has them

[@seanhornchek6440]

idk man, I don't think the buzz of my kings will ever get obnoxious

[@dan-5678]

@@piciu256 check out I-9, those are loud

[@MrCobba123]

@@piciu256 Any hub is loud (and will be less reliable) if you don't maintain it. Hope hubs are popular because Hope's customer service, quality control, value for money and reliability are first class. 'Overhyped' implies they aren't as good as people say... Yeah, there are better hubs out there, but you will struggle to find better hubs for the same money. Have you ever owned a Hope hub?

[@murray1961]

Love the silence (so over the obnoxious buzzing hubs), quick engage and free spinning. Beautiful! Gotta cost!

[@murray1961]

The pros go to great lengths to make there bikes silent so they can focus on what’s important.. going faster.. this hub will be on my next bike for sure.

[@thetrailnomad]

@@piciu256 i9 Hydra don't get any quieter using grease. I've tried it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2HTYox4o5xrbZY

[@jcsrst]

I LOVE this! I wish road bikes had silent hubs. Roadies seem to be into super loud hubs.

[@harsdensus88]

I have ultegra old hubset and they are silent.

[@jarnozondag694]

@@harsdensus88 Shimano road hubs are a pain in the ass to service tho...

[@harsdensus88]

@@jarnozondag694 OK bro

[@mierzhen]

I think the super loud hubs are purposefully used to allow random pedestrians that aren't aware of their surroundings know you're approaching them.

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

i think onyx has them in the road bike standard

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

Just installed the newer Vespyr on my Ripmo build. Best hubs ever! Let's me listen to how my bike is behaving, instant pedal engagement, and zero drag. When im coasting a fire road my bike accelerates like mad compared to my buddies with other hubs. Love it!

[@WaechterDerNacht]

Definitely got to get those for my next bike! That's sick when the only thing you hear are the tires on the ground and the surroundings.

[@inigop7813]

I got one of these years ago. It's called a cheap old shimano free hub.

[@shavedbird694]

Prolly doesn’t engage nearly as fast tho

[@sambrown7950]

Even if they use similar designs, doesn't make them equal in components, quality, and perfection of design.

[@DaleGribblerosky]

I9 owners pretty salty over these things. I'm not one to pick a part pricing over components when we pay $2-300 for styrofoam to wear on our heads

[@OLI-vx1md]

@@sambrown7950 they are in no way similar in design either though lol

[@ersonvelasco2531]

Strongly agree! Good ol’ days are more fun when few legit mtb brands are available. We even use short cage Shimano Sora coz there is no Saint/Zee available yet. 😂

[@jeff7086]

One huge difference I discovered with Onyx hubs compared to the I9 torch is how much easier the onyx is on the body. last year when I put an onyx on my yeti SB130 it made me realized how much the consistent buzzing vibrations was coming through the bike frame to the body. After many a 30+ mile ride I am way less beat with the lack of vibration compared to my I9 hubs.

[@Freshtony15]

I like louder hubs for animals and hikers

[@denoki]

but the hikers dont like that sound.. and you disturb animals with it

[@Freshtony15]

@@denoki well I dont like hikers who don't pay attention on trail, and I also don't want to hit any animals so its nice to let things know you're coming.

[@denoki]

@@Freshtony15 dont like hiker too who dont pay attention.. but dont care about animals.. they know that you coming withot the fucking hub noise

[@sc0608023]

@@denoki What a pansie tree-hugger! Hub noise will rupture the eardrums of those poor animals right?!

[@Garbagejuicewaterfall]

Loud hubs save lives

[@daleschwenning8156]

Been running these hubs for 2 years. The silent running is only the second best part.... the instant torque is a game changer. Oh, and the total lack of maintenance required, despite going through 2 freewheels (225 lbs and poorly coordinated riding eats parts)

[@koho]

Love my Onyx rear hub!

[@andrewrivera4029]

Yea, got the Onyx hubs recently love them!

[@Bjoggi308]

I have these hubs on 2 bikes and I love them. Sure they weight a bit more, but I absolutely love the zen of silent hups. Just me, the wind, and tires shredding the ground. And the instant engagement is addictive. Hard to go back to traditional hubs after. Feels like they are broken or something. I'm a big fan of Onyx.

[@juliuszkowalczyk3479]

I fully appreciate the concept of silent hubs on a singletrack; however, where I live, pedestrians on cyclepaths tend to ignore or be aggressive towards to the legal signal of ringing the bell - a backpedal with loud hub works much better: scared/confused/surprised, stepping aside right away :D

[@slawomirb1984]

Just serviced outer bearings in my newly bought, used old rim with Ritchey ZERO System hub. And it spins without any noise and very similar time to yours :)

[@jacobjames1171]

They're great on a BMX track because no one can hear you coming up from behind.

[@remar2434]

This very nice to my mtb..hope to have one..thanks for showing..

[@ninjafiremonkey]

I prefer loud hubs because it masks the other creaks my bike makes haha!

[@rdot8419]

Great hubs and greater bike. I love my Transition Patrol. Keep saying Im going to get rid of it but every time I ride it I love it all over again.

[@schloOnzo]

the "haha" at the end reminded me of that oh hey mark dude, Tommy Wiseau or whatever 😁 Nice Hubs !

[@rekamniar]

I miss this dude in Vital. The dude’s a perfectionist

[@noControl556]

Loud hubs saves lives

[@thebigbonk]

I wonder how long you could make it spin in a vacuum? That would eliminate any air resistance from the tyres and spokes, but still keep the weight on the wheels to keep spinning for longer

[@hansiwurst7492]

Nice! Love the silence What did you do to get rid of the cable rattle on that Smuggler ?!

[@vitalmtb]

Wrapping a bit of electrical tape around the cables where they enter/exit the frame WHILE you pull the cables tight does the trick. I also put some 3M Mastic tape between the cables and cable holders for some extra grip.

[@hansiwurst7492]

Vital MTB thanks! Gonna try that!

[@zepp3lin]

I love noisy hubs and so does Brandon Semenuk

[@ap1reviewsadventures96]

I hate loud ass hubs. These are beautiful stealth mode!

[@Co-km6cl]

Same. I'm just not sure that a super quiet bike will make riding in the forest safer.

[@ap1reviewsadventures96]

Colin shut yo ass up! “Safer” GTFO you pussy. Hahahaaaa

[@ajs0350]

But the mechanical noise is so satisfying tho!

[@fadelabdurrahman3469]

Just wait until you meet someone who doesn't pay even a slight attention on the track. Especially in holiday season where there will be a lot recreational cyclists on the track (most of them are first-timer and REEAAAALLY LOVE to stop randomly on wherever they want) i will stick with my loud ass wheelset.

[@ap1reviewsadventures96]

@@fadelabdurrahman3469 amen man I rock i9 hydras with oil, tons of engagement and loud as a swarm of bees. My original post was to see what type of reaction I would get out of the peons. Hail hydra!

[@ChannelZeroOne]

Thats a nice flow trail. Where is it at? Probably very far from Flatida.

[@victorjesuscastrotejeda4816]

Nice hub to enjoy the forest

[@Gil_Saint]

I love love love silent hubs

[@VdubSPAZ]

I race with onyx hubs NBA Max and I would not go back to anything else.... make such a big difference specially when rolling downhill to grab that engagement it's instantaneous like there is no like trying to catch up with the drivetrain.... People that have less points of engagement definitely know that..... but even at a hundred and twenty points of engagement you still feel that trying to catch up feeling.... Definitely not with onyx hubs..... There's another company called stealth but they only do BMX .... And I'm definitely not sold on their system yet... Obviously I bought the onyx

[@felixhawkins5922]

These combined with an stfu chain silencer and rockshox buttercup would be insane

[@KurtisPape]

I was so into the riding, forgot I was actually watching a video about a hub

[@stephenkohler3472]

So trippy not hearing any buzz! I wonder how long it would take to get used to the silence?

[@daddysboywanyou]

Does that mean that hubs that sounds like a beehive would have more friction than the Onyx silent ones? Therefore, hubs like Industry 9, Chris king, Hope etc wouldn't spin 'forever' like Onyx?

[@zdravo4]

WOOOOW it makes no sound, lovely. Possible my next hubs if I spare enough money

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

used it since 2019.. it did spin for a damn long time when i first used it ... then it gotten very draggy, like sticky , i've gotten the bearing changed 4 times same issue, last week , i hand cranked it backwards there was a very heavy stiction to it then went through it but the back wheel would follow my backwards hand crank like its a fixed gear

[@harryechiverri6013]

Onyx best hub ever!

[@michaelkennedy4444]

I got the onyx hub on my touring bike. Didn’t want the noise on a long ride .

[@damdal6565]

THE PERFECT HUBS!

[@sebastiengiovannelli8556]

vesper and classic both silent or only vesper ?

[@greekfrenchman4434]

Is this the vesper?

[@CoreQ]

one way clutch bearing .love it. I don't like any sound from my bike

[@aspunkyyacker6850]

They looked a bit spongy there. I'd be keen to see how much give there is with full body weight on the pedals at the point of engagement.

[@Trumpisdumb]

Cry a lot more.

[@cliffcox7643]

Your wheels are very balanced. There's no bob.. Question, do they make road bike hubs for Shimano 11 speed?

[@mt2nv1]

Sweeeet! Is it true that onyx also isolates chain forces better and limits chain kickback?

[@oldmanmtb1443]

I've ridden both with the onyx I hit 4 hikers switch over to the i9 haven't hit a hiker yet

[@ousqa]

That's cool, but how much do they weigh?

[@hardmtnbiker]

I’m building up a 27.5 plus wheels with i40 or i45 rims and I’m considering ONYX hubs. They really are amazing!

[@lauriemcdermott1826]

You wont be disappointed

[@John_D2]

You sold me on the silent hub.

[@bensun432]

love this! Dream hubs on a dream bike!

[@sripavanv]

Great video

[@dferrerll]

Silent all the way, are these equivalent to ratchet performance? which ones are the quietest and most performance out there

[@tjlovin247]

I ride a loud in the back silent in the front,so they dont hear me pulling up only pulling away

[@devoid-of-life]

I don't think that's how it works

[@brokenlegz]

That’s really cool and I wonder what it would feel like on a silent bike. I think I would end up doing my head on being able to hear every cable slap, chain slap and random creak I couldn’t hear before. I’m actually thinking of putting some playing cards in my spokes... people hear you coming.

[@dan-5678]

If you want to hear what louder one sound like, check out I-9

[@M3garage1]

i like loud hubs they just sound cool to me

[@blazejbch]

love them quiet!

[@yankohristov2361]

Very nice video!!!

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

I've wanted those for a long time

[@dfclemz24]

That was awesome I prefer the silent type but lot of free wheel. 👌

[@jsasa5668]

Love these hubs! How do you like those Nobl? I think I am going to get the TR32s for my Yeti SB100...

[@tizianomiserendino9742]

Do they have much more pedal kickback than traditional hubs?

[@h.whiteman9544]

forever as in 1.45?

[@matthewsullivan9942]

Making lions den look flowy.

[@CHRIS_HITCHCOCK]

I love the brrrrrrrrr if a Dirty Flea.

[@Detroit3Pistons]

Is it a big time noticeable difference when you switch to quality hubs compared to cheap Hubs?

[@bikechowfun]

I would love to have this silent hub! I am irritated on the noisy one.

[@andrewscasualmtb]

I just got the vesper one. Having it installed and should have it back within the week from my bike shop. Can't wait for the silence.

[@bikechowfun]

​@@andrewscasualmtb it's sad that I can't find any shop selling one of this hubs in my country

[@andrewscasualmtb]

@@bikechowfun I just ordered it straight off of their official website. I've never seen it in any store even here in the usa.

[@bikechowfun]

@@andrewscasualmtb awesome! Gonna try this hub

[@bikechowfun]

@@andrewscasualmtb thanks mate!

[@justinwbohner]

Quiet hubs are the best. The Vesper takes DT freehub bodies and give a magical ride.

[@exogator]

I pack my hubs with automotive hub grease, it nearly 100% silences standard ratchets. Been on one bike for 3 years and the grease is still bright blue, still just as quiet as the day I don't it.

[@96d96]

By the way is an orbea mx50 a good hardtail

[@Weso723]

Where is the riding filmed? Is that spyder mountain?!?

[@matthewsullivan9942]

Durango. Lions den.

[@zootarootoot]

What bike are you riding in the video?

[@johnwick1483]

Hope hubs are the way to go 🚵🍻

[@mymodel6]

Hope hubs are cheap and good but this shit is fucking jewelry! :)

[@DEFKNIGHT]

I want these for a single speed build on a track frame. I wish they actually made a SS hub for 120mm axle length. Would be awesome. On a single speed the power engagement of this hub and extreme low friction would likely mean my going back up to a 48t chaining. It's a shame I have to consider buying a custom frame just to fit these hubs.

[@ryanjosephatienza1201]

Its look like closer to "coaster hub" without the braking features

[@jorgeguerrero6361]

I think noisy hubs were ment to make noise for the trails and not use bells..but i love quiet hubs

[@enpluson1539]

I would, but i am not sacrificing an already quite silent dt 350 which weighs 200 Grams less.

[@xiki1506]

Creo que es sólo la rueda de atrás la que me hace ruido 🤔

[@aimusoorii4484]

Silence is deadly

[@SoSwiff]

I've gotta have these

[@JuanLega]

Can you actually feel a difference when riding? "besides the noise"

[@spencerblackwell4374]

Nope, the tiny bit of better rolling resistance makes no difference when your actually controlling the bike with your momentum. These will not change your ride at all in terms of speed, you controlling the bike has much bigger impact

[@jason-dy5ou]

people that are hiking can hear me coming with my Hydra hubs.

[@fadelabdurrahman3469]

Silent hubs are the best for me when hangout with the bois on track. But loud hubs are great as well. Just wait until you meet someone who doesn't pay even a slight attention on the track. Especially in holiday season where there will be a lot of recreational cyclists on the track (most of them are first-timer and REEAAAALLY LOVE to stop randomly on wherever they want), i will stick with my loud ass wheelset.

[@marcomunguia9781]

I once saw a biker with silent hubs dig their front wheel on the back of a recreational biker who was frolicking on a bike trail with heavy traffic. That was the most glorious thing i had seen that day. In my opinion that's why people use silent hubs, it's an excuse to run over milk drinkers.

[@alicangul2603]

Spin time without load doesn't mean anything tho?

[@mymodel6]

Oooh aren't we clever...

[@alicangul2603]

@@mymodel6 I'm not trying to be a smartass, I think it's misleading, without at least mentioning that fact.

[@mymodel6]

@@alicangul2603 You are a bit though, because if you're smart enough to know that, you're also smart enough to know it makes next to no actual fucking difference on the road/trail. A 0.2mph headwind, a 1psi drop in tyre pressure or even just a slightly looser fitting shirt will create more drag than the load difference you are referring to. It's a good policy to ask one's self the question "Who benefits most from this comment? Other people, or my ego?" before posting pointless crap like this. The answer in this case is clearly your ego, literally no one stands to gain anything either materially or intellectually from your comment, you did it to sound like a smart ass, but you'd be a smarter ass had you realized that and not commented at all in the first place.. Funny huh...

[@mentho101]

Did this video got reuploaded ?

[@TyrannoKoenigsegg]

Are there hubs like these for road bikes tho? Sounds like something the road world wouldve come up with first

[@mischifer1]

I know some people who have had wheelsets laced up with these for their gravel/road/whatever bikes for the rolling and engagement and noise. The thing is though is that they're on the heavier side due to mechanism inside compared to a normal pawl system in almost every other (DT, I9, etc) And these were actually made by a BMX dad whose kid needed a quicker engagement for starts last I heard :)

[@TyrannoKoenigsegg]

@@mischifer1 dayum that's awesome

[@yongling9825]

Onyx makes these hubs for road bikes too.

[@figment285]

What trail is this

[@ex_zach_tly]

Lions den in Durango

[@NugatySk]

Nothing to blame, pretty quiet(Well that quiet, that you can hear ants fighting), but dik about that spinning, my Mavic Deemax DH 26" Lasted about 3 minutes and 26 seconds (We measured the time), but good hubs for sure :P

[@vedad4243]

Am i the only one that loves to hear that tzzzz from the hub 😂

[@SugmaNatsu]

silent hubs all the way any day for me. I don't hate hubs that make noise but most of the noisy ass hubs of today don't even sound good. They're just noisy. Rarely do i find noisy hubs that actually make a good sound.

[@raptorrungreece]

You didn't tell us the most important thing. The exact model

[@dumbr2098]

I like loud hubs.. But not the bee sounding ones.. So yeah.. Sacrifice some engagement for the noise! I like both silent and loud hubs, just a bit picky about the loud ones.

[@lestersiron8026]

Noisy hub makes disturb others and be arrogant because of the hub itself. Sorry for my comment but it's true.

[@memememe843]

I’ll take non-instant engagement lower-end quiet hubs over instant engagement buzz hubs all day long. I’m just a mediocre rider, not a racer. But if I was a racer I would get hubs like these.

[@lukasek1234]

Its cool but i love the sound of great hubs

[@Rey-gb7od]

Just for my opinion i really love loud hubs especially hope hubs 4 which i got in my road bike no offense for this channel its just my opinion

[@RynaxAlien]

Efficiency losses?

[@policies8534]

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