Spirit 219; Gurdjieff, Reins Practice, Medieval Society, Tidal Squeezing, Ouspensky 1938

[@chrxmeface]

At this point, where I am in my life, I need a method that is the quickest way to achieve Spiritual Enlightenment in this life, everything else, like all the extra shit, even though its cool and im super interested, is just shiny distractions to me. Like I'm super into all the shit you're talking about, and have studied al these dudes, Buddha, Christ, Ouspensky/Gurdjieff, different paths and on and on. And I've had a shit ton of insights like you have, in terms of frame rates of reality and inter-connectedness, but ok, so what? Have I reached some Grand final Buddhist Enlightenment with all that after a decade of study? No! So to me, all of this is just digging a bunch of holes and never getting to the water, when I should have originally just focused on one to reach the water, and I would have by now. I have friends who focused, for example, on 1 thing, and are no successful from their endeavors and free financially so they can pursue spiritual things. Whereas I have to use a large portion of my energy to work and pay stupid bills lol. Clown world!

[@carolinegrant2423]

You sound like your ego is in control of you, that's the problem with those sneaky I,s ... humility is key I think, no expectations

[@chrxmeface]

@@carolinegrant2423 Im already aware of all the I's, and have spent a decade with no I's, just floating in Is'ness completely deconstructed, and that also isn't full or complete Enlightenment, its just a certain in-between stage. And in the mean time, flesh-bodily time is ticking away and just like that, 10 years has past, and you only get so much here. Now on the one hand, none of that matters in Zen or in a number of systems working on Enlightenment. On the other hand, in various systems, having a Human life is a precious opportunity you absolutely have to keep in mind and use for realizing Enlightenment. So in the end, what you say about me, with Egos/I's, doesnt even apply. You couldnt possibly know unless we sat in person and can find out directly for yourself through all the nuances of direct communication. Also you offered no solutions to complete Enlightenment in the end

[@chrxmeface]

@@carolinegrant2423 Even if I let go of all ego, of all I's, that's still not Enlightenment. Its just a momentarily I-less state. So again, back to square one with no solutions. So what is your prposition now?

[@rideforever]

@@chrxmeface That is correct. In fact those characters need to be dissolve and integrated with the whole because they live in a partial crystalisation. They crystalise "against", like a denying force. But everything that is not integrated must be integrated and made as one blade reforged from its elements. Eastern techniques are good for this. In fact G gave excellent instructions, but hide them in different places. One method is 'emptying and filling'. One must practice such methods thousand hours very diligently, not like others do it.

[@chrxmeface]

@@rideforever I've dissolved myself so many times I just became a useless husk or mound of dirt that would be completely content in homelessness near some well supplied trash can behind a restaurant with not a care in the world for anything. So some practices can have negative effects and cause an imbalance. Same deal with G's Self Remembrance, have spent thousands of hours in self retreats and throughout the day doing just that, and doing this can create an over-crystalization of consciousness that also is an imbalance, etc etc