Spiritual Perspective: A conversation with Sri Madhu Pandit Dasa - Part 2

[@DhanushRajGN]

Hare Krishna Prabhu, Dandavats.. As a folk, watching 12, 13yrs old video in my initial days created that same hauntedness which MPP was mentioning. But since I was seeing very sincerity in my folk guides and other Devotees in the mission and towards Prabhupada, I said to myself that, "Give time, slowly study the matter and seek the knowledge properly before feeling hatred or scolding anybody..." Bcoz, I was getting very much convinced by Prabhupada's books about this philosophy, but real case scenarios were making me to think and it used to create doubts... But as I understand, I've observed one thing that MPP or any other Devotees, when they try to make us understand this, I see there's no hatred that they put in our heart towards any other Devotees... They put Prabhupada's instructions and leave us to make decisions without force, for which I've great regards and respect for. I'm watching this part 1 & 2 for the 2nd time and this time, I'm more clear and I feel more belonged to sincere Devotees in our Prabhupada's movement. I convey my immense gratitude's to all the Devotees who understood the gravity way earlier and made our path much more purer and clearer.... Your Servant, Dhanush Raj.

[@adithvijay8716]

I don't know.. I might be completely dumb in commenting this but I always feel that Prabhupad is here, living and listening and seeing everything on Hare Krishna Hill. But elsewhere in any ISKCON I find him to be simply a marble statue more or less like the one of those politicians. Also adding that the deities are very powerful here. HariBol!! ❤

[@harishbs2025]

True even i too felt the same....may be due to dishonor

[@vedanshprashantdeshmukh2890]

Hare krishna devotees, Pranamas Being in this movement for quite a time, Indeed HGMPP And HGVPP are very exalted devotees, great thanks to them and other devotees really giving up their lives for the sake of purity of our krishna conciousness movement. Huge obeisances to all devotees Jagadguru srila prabhupada ki jay Sri sri Radha Krishna Chandra ki Jay 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@srilaprabhupadauvacha3568]

HARE KRISHNA PRABHU. THANKS TO YOUR EYE OPENING LECTURES ABOUT GURU ISSUE . ALL GLORIES AND GLORIES TO JAGAD GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA AND ISKCON BANGALORE GROUP OF TEMPLES.

[@pravinsalunkhe9038]

हरे कृष्ण प्रभु जी । Initially I beg sorry for having negative impression about you. But now it's all clear. How beautifully you explained. Jay Srila Prabhupad.

[@Soulful_life108]

Hare krishna prabhu jis, you exposed truth prabhu. Now i am assured that ritvik is the recommended process of initiation within iskcon. PAMHO AGTSP

[@ishantsingh4725]

Actually His Grace Vyoma Pada prabhu is an amazing interviewer. I really liked the way he interviewed his grace Madhupandit prabhu. All glories to Srila Prabhupada

[@ajanyarajs6473]

You are right. Sreelaprabhupad chose you for us. Hare krishna

[@krishnaconsiousness24-7liv9]

As stated in bagvadgita ,Krishna devotee never perishes ,sril prabupad true movement is still alive ,Hare Krishna iskon Bangalore jai srila prabupad

[@gauravnandikala600]

Prabhu there is no any university where we can get spiritual knowledge 🙏 except srimad Bhagwat Gita

[@ravichandra3645]

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada Jai Srila Prabhupada 🙏🙏🙏

[@ritiksingh6199]

Jai Srila Prabhupada ❤ I am a big fan of Madhu Pandit Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances

[@raghavmaheshwari328]

Hare krishna🙏Jai srila prabhupada 😇

[@ajanyarajs6473]

Innocent devotees need guides like you.

[@aswanisingh790]

yes i do agree with Madhu Pandit Prabhu. I have visited other ISKCON And ISKCON Bangalore (Groups Of Temples). When ever i go to other ISKCON they ask me who is ..Your Guru. Prabhupada never wanted this to happen in ISKCON but this is happening. And atleast this confusion is not there in ISKCON Bangalore(and group of temples ).

[@Mahipandey-e3s]

हरे कृष्णा प्रभु जी इस्कॉन के 2 पार्ट क्यू हुए जब यहाँ पर भी यही होगा तो लोग क्या सीखेगे बस सबको ये होना चाहिये की सब कृष्णा भक्ति कर रहे है 🙏🙏🙏 जब प्रभु पाद जी ने बोला है की मेरे बाद कोई गुरु नही होगा तो क्या परेसानी है🙏🙏 🥺

[@sadenb]

Fight for Dharma. Remember Krishna told about Dharma . And for that we must fight . Spiritualism does not mean to abandon and give into Adharma.

[@shankarramaraghavan]

The interviewer is not upgrading himself well from the beginning of his interview. I’m sorry for saying this. It was off-sync questions without acknowledging the systematic replies from this great devotee Madhu Panditji. By humility, he should have come well prepared and accept the views from His Grace Madhu Panditji as the interview progresses on. Each point needs to be fully understood by the interviewer and respectfully proceed to the next series of questions. I’m lost with this interviewer’s calibre to ask questions but I’m blessed with the sheer quality replies by Madhu Panditji. This man should first of all realized the Padmashri impact he’s giving to the audience and should sync well with him, instead of causing unnecessary distractions in between the questions. Madhu Panditji is the best I’ve seen so far. There’s so much in him I treasure. Jay!

[@vedbhure]

Excellent

[@bhimakandel4655]

kalki yug spritual master need to show higer concerness by the open 3 rd eyes.🙏🙌🕉

[@murlidhardas1731]

HARE KRISHNA. JAI SRILA PRABHUPADA.

[@subhadra222]

Hare Krishna

[@onlyharinam7272]

Hare Krishna madhu pandit prabhu its Nice converstion about guru system, and I definitely agree with madhupandit prabhu

[@mariopineda8412]

Aswani Singh. Please ask Madhu Paandit das why he has not learned yet or is critical of what Srila Prabhupada has taught on guru tattwa. Srila Prabhupada has made it TOTALLY clear, that the false gurus are., "demons. rascals, finished." Lecture 4/7/74 Srila Prabhupada has written about the false gurus., "the masters and his ward, both g to hell without any doubt." S.B, 1.19.37 Any advancement or progress toward Krishna is NEVER by serving the "guru ship" of false most violent gurus who are suspects in poisoning Srila Prabhupada, most gross other violence and who have changed Srila Prabhupada's books. ALL credit for any advancement toward Krishna, is ONLY due to Srila Prabhupada's perfect siddhanta and not due to those who are trying to destroy and replace his true siddhanta, for material self promotion.

[@hkitm]

Excellent! I agree with Madhu Pandit Prabhu 100%! But, please fix the sound! When the Prabhu on the left speaks, we have to turn up the volume. When MP speaks, we have to turn down the volume. Try listening to it on tiny laptop computer speakers, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[@iskconbangalore]

Thank you for your feedback. We will take care of this aspect in the upcoming videos.

[@hkitm]

What the audio needs is compression and normalization. I know that KZbin allows you to change the audio level even after the video has been published, but I'm not sure whether or not you can change the level of individual segments.

[@rakshit5944]

, Bhagavad-gītā has to be accepted as it is, from the disciplic succession, and it is described herein that the Lord spoke to the sun-god, the sun-god spoke to his son Manu, and Manu spoke to his son Ikṣvāku.

[@shashankverma3141]

But do you know ? It was first spoken to bramha? Within heart bramha received the knowledge but didn't see Krishna ? Will you please explained me this? Lord Krishna also says in time being it seems like it is lost thats why am saying it to you again

[@hariharkarunamayadas1310]

Hare Krishna There are many group which are struggling for srila prabhupada's right mission . Like Give, iskcon Bangalore, Hare Krishna movement, Aakshya patra etc.... So why they are struggling alone Why not they unit and fight together. Give society came to Madhu Pandit Pr Ji For this issue to unit but he refused vrindravan Chandra Das Why????? Why they are critising devotee, is probhupada teach them to criticize devotees. Who we are to judge someone. If we are right I think know need to show that we are right people in this society. Society people can know time will......?? Showing right means glorified themselves. That is not good. If you really serving prabhupada, is prabhupada teach us to criticize other to establish in the society. He teach us by aacharn so do that.... Always criticizing devootee He did something They did something.... Is prabhupada send them to judge them other devotee.....

[@harishbs2025]

Prabhupad will 100percent encourage who il fight for the right...when truths are revealled and settled the movement il expand with explosions

[@rakshit5944]

The demonic, however, do not accept Lord Kṛṣṇa as He is. Instead they concoct something about Kṛṣṇa and mislead general readers from the path of Kṛṣṇa’s instructions. Here is a warning about such misleading paths. One should try to follow the disciplic succession from Arjuna, and thus be benefited by this great science of Śrīmad Bhagavad-gītā.

[@gagonite1237]

Change channel name plz.. It's iskcon Bengaluru not iskcon banglore...Hare krishna

[@laxmareddym]

Yes Sir,your right

[@mariopineda8412]

Hare Krishna. Why is Madhu Pandit das still agreeing with the interviewer that anyone can make progress by serving those who are suspects in poisoning Srila Prabhupada, those who have been suspects in the murder of Sulocan das prabhu, those who were ordered to pay 26 USD million for child abuse and sexual molestation and who also changed Srila Prabhupada's books? This offense to Srila Prabhupada, should be removed from you tube and all other parts. All progress toward Krishna is ONLY made due to the kripa or mercy of Srila Prabhupada, and NOT due to rascal violent so called gurus who Srila Prabhupada says, they will go to hell in., S.B, 1.19.37

[@mariopineda8412]

It would be great if the Bangalore group of temples become correct in the most important principle in life., guru tattwa siddhanta. Also, they should honor Srila Prabhupada's reasons for ISKCON, which are., unity and cooperation despite disagreements. One should be friendly and kind to all living entities, specially to the spiritual master and his followers or God brothers and sisters.

[@ishantsingh4725]

PRabhu you cannot find a more co operative Devotee than His Grace Sri Madhu Pandit Prabhu. Madhu Pandit Prabhu and Iskcon Bangalore devotees will co operate with other iskcon devotees despite disagreements.

[@karishmaalva908]

I m cleared now I feel sad seeing this 2 divisions. Everyone worship Krishna but this division makes me feel bad.

[@s.k.haridas6726]

Elected are not guru, God name is guru

[@rakshit5944]

Question: Through a book can you contact the spiritual master? Prabhupada: No, you have to associate. Devotee: "Can you associate through a book?" she asked. Prabhupada: Yes, through books and also personal. Because when you make a spiritual master you have got personal touch. Not that in air you make a spiritual master. You make a spiritual master concrete. So as soon as you make a spiritual master, you should be inquisitive. (RC London, Sept. 23, 1969) Physical presence of the spiritual master is very very important, it's not all about knowledge but also personal guidance, which is simply not possible from all of Srila prabhupad's books.

[@shashankverma3141]

So dikhsa guru always present with you? You have to associate with shikhsa guru or devotees even srila prabhupada was not present all time with their disciplie. Try to understand our guru is srila Prabhupada

[@prajwalmanjunath5009]

Btw 1st of all you don't understand the exalted position and meaning of spiritual master (diksha guru) and what to talk about the personal association of guru. And for your kind information Srila Prabhupada has said " I will never die, i shall live from my books and you will utilise" How dare you to say that he is not present personal, he is present personal in his instructions and teachings. Just as an atheist ask "can you show me god?" That fault is god is present everywhere one just need the eyes to see him The same you are asking "can you show me physical presence of spiritual?" Aree baba you need eyes to see him Then only you'll be able understand how guru is actually personally and physically is with you always. Otherwise one is no better than the atheist who always ask about physical presence of God infront of them. HARE Krishna 🙏

[@mariopineda8412]

Bottom line. Bangalore needs to learn true guru tattwa, that accepting the guru ship of the disobedient false gurus lead only to Pataloka. Srila Prabhupada makes this most clear. "the master and his ward go to hell without a doubt." S.B, 1.19.37. Then, Bangalore needs to break all sectarian lines and follow the good example of Jayananda das prabhu, toward ALL inclusive istagosthi, unity and cooperation despite disagreements as Srila Prabhupada has ordered and founded ISKCON for. We have to be careful to think we are so intelligent, that we even miss what Srila Prabhupada really teaches, wants and has ordered to us!

[@phanighanakota1174]

Living guru or ritvik is OK, kindly distribute books and do preaching.

[@sheetalverma8940]

Guru tattwa is for the next appointed diksha guru but srila prabhupada never declared any diksha guru in his last will. So your theory of guru tattwa is irrelevant.

[@yesssirrrskiiii]

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[@mariopineda8412]

Hare Krishna. "The way I think." We are not interested in the way anyone thinks, if it opposes what Srila Prabhupada teaches. Srila Prabhupada says that false gurus and their disciples do not help to progress toward Krishna, but that both the master and his ward, go to hell. S.B, 1.19.37 Srila Prabhupada says that disobedient like the whole GBC and false gurus, they are., demons, rascals, finished (in devotion.) Lecture 4/7/74. Madhu Pandit das and this bewildered interviewer should realize that they and the rest of us are ALL worms in the stool of the worms spiritually, be humble and meek and learn proper guru tattwa. This interview should be detracted, since it directly opposes Srila Prabhupada's true guru tatwa. One does never compromise the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Not for properties, donations, nation, etc. For NOTHING.

[@mariopineda8412]

No progress toward Krishna can be made serving dissobediet, false, violent, offensive gurus. This is A,B,Cs understanding on guru tattwa. Srila Prabhupada says that the false gurus and their disciples go to hell. S.B, 1.19.37 Interviewer. True ritvik Prabhupadanugas, are not interested in what you think or say that is contrary to what Srila Prabhupada says and thinks. Jib jago!!

[@rakshit5944]

Physical presence of the spiritual master is very very important, it's not all about knowledge but also personal guidance, which is simply not possible from all of Srila prabhupad's books. You have just edited from different prabhupad lectures and letters , which he have spoken or written in different context of his preaching , simply to prove your point correct. But .. Srila Prabhupada cannot defy the instruction of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu , that everyone should become guru and proclaim himself to be the last Guru. A pure cannot go against the order of the supreme lord. Srila Prabhupada clearly mentioned the system of initiation after his departure , that his disciples will become leaders and their disciples will be my grand disciples , not that they will be his disciples. Srila Prabhupada was really a divine personality , he could see the future of Iskcon. He truly said that , No external force can put a scratch on Iskcon , if it happens then it will be someone who is already inside. Maya is really very powerful , how nicely she makes devotees blind is applaudable and how she makes people to blaspheme their own Guru , other Vaishnavas who were srila Prabhupad's gems , how could a real follower of srila Prabhupada could do that. It simply shows their lack of surrender to srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada is a pure devotee. He is like a extraordinary touch stone who can convert anybody to another touch stone. If someone claims that there cannot be any leader or devotee who can further take the lineage forward or srila Prabhupada is the last pure devotee after that , this argument is completely baseless. This has never happened in the history of our culture that initiations are taking place without the physical presence of the spiritual master , which is confirmed by many of srila Prabhupad's Godbrothers. It's complete laughter No matter , many of srila Prabhupad's disciples could not have his physical association but they recieved srila Prabhupad's divine touch , they did learnt from his manifest Lila and could see their spiritual master teaching them by their example. So it's very very important to have a living Guru who can teach with his example , guide and further inspire their followers which is not possible without physical manifestation of the spiritual master Srila prabhupad's desire is his order. One should understand this very clearly. It's the topmost priority of a disciple to fulfill his masters desire. Srila Gaur Kishore das babaji asked His only disciple srila bhakti siddhant saraswati thakur to never go to Kolkata , but he went there to establish temples. One should understand the heart of the master , not just blindly misinterpret and cut copy and paste from here and there just to prove some non sense correct You are the only person who is not misled All other prabhupad disciples betrayed their master and were disloyal to him. Opening another institution like this Sri Krishna Mandir itself is a act of disloyalty to srila Prabhupada. Iskcon is a body of srila prabhupad and leaving it means not wanting to follow his instructions. This simple indicated lack of surrender and faith. What a joke Only you are realised All glories to you and your interpretation of srila prabhupad's instructions.

[@animerecap1008]

Revolution start with one person then it grows ...after few years you can't say only you realised ...

[@uditladwal3189]

Hare krsna prabhuji, dandwath 🙏🙏 If you think physical presence of guru is important and simultaneously you are doing devotional activities. Don't you think, this is controdictory thinking? Still you think 'I am a spiritualist or A devotee"

[@alwaysknewhowtobehappy]

I read your stories. 1) in parampara system guru when alive chooses next guru but srila prabhupad said coming 10,000 years I will be guru. 2) all guru's in parampara were not conditioned soul they were sent directly from lord krishna himself. 3) guru can never fall down, and guru's coming in parampara proved that. 4) so called guru's many have fallen down. 5) prabhupad personally said I will never die, I will live in my book and this mahashai is saying something new very great research. After reading this still if u r think yourself great then you become guru in your center, congrats. I will follow srila prabhupad as guru.